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<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
<Lisa_Seeman> is zakim woking?
<Lisa_Seeman> anyone there
yep
<JohnRochford> Hi all. I'm having technical difficulties with my phone. I'm trying to fix now and join the call.
??P27 is slee
<janina> We hear you
<janina> But, you don't hear us, right?
yes
<neilmilliken> zakim aaaa is me
Lisa_Seeman: stick it in the chat
<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: slee
janina: Identified a scoping issue - W3C groups should only talk about web tech. We might be exceeding this eg telephone AT
<Elle_Waters> Elle = 502 area code (on mute)
but telephony is now so often included with web UI (eg Web RTC) that it is scope
<Elle_Waters> 502 = Elle Waters (on mute)
<JohnRochford> See Elle?
<Tony_Doran__> Apologies - connection dropping so am on with multiple aliases :(
<Lisa_Seeman> IE: look at wcag4ICT
<Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/TR/wcag2ict/
<Tony_Doran__> Sorry me again, VOIP dropped.
janina: wcag4ICT was a special case as requested by EU and ? to broaden scope
MichaelC: says we need to be very careful as WCAG4ACIT is an informative document.
<neilmilliken> agree with Debra
debraruh: we should be representative but careful.
<JohnRochford> agree with Debra
<Lisa_Seeman> RESOLVED: change scope to web
Lisa_Seeman: RESOLVED: change scope to web
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: lisa to ping ADD group and introduce niel [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/18-coga-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-33 - Ping add group and introduce niel [on Lisa Seeman - due 2014-08-25].
neilmilliken: TO be added to the ADD group. requests introduction
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: lisa to ping aging group to check all research is mentioned [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/18-coga-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-34 - Ping aging group to check all research is mentioned [on Lisa Seeman - due 2014-08-25].
JohnRochford: Ageing group is not aware of outstanding research from ageing group
<JohnRochford> Correction: Autism group is not aware of outstanding research
JohnRochford: - oops thanks
... Correction! Is not aware of outstanding research from
autism group
<Tony_Doran__> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia
<KateDeibel> This section? http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia#How_They_Use_The_Web_and_ICT.
Tony_Doran__: Some products listed in cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia have more general use for other coga11y groups
<KateDeibel> +q
MichaelC: Requests change markup for update as wiki is too hard to manage for entire document
<Lisa_Seeman> TOPIC, agenda item 5
MichaelC: The document is now managed under w3c GitHub processes so its really hard to include changes made to the wiki
Slee: Thinks we should now move to the W3C process id possible but may be unfamiliar to some
<Lisa_Seeman> RESOLVED: new content sections get done on t he wiki, changes to ported content will be in the github version
Lisa_Seeman: lets use wiki only for new sections and existing will go via github process
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: lisa to add warnings to wiki if a section has been ported [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/18-coga-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-35 - Add warnings to wiki if a section has been ported [on Lisa Seeman - due 2014-08-25].
<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: michael to set day for github training [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/18-coga-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-36 - Set day for github training [on Michael Cooper - due 2014-08-25].
<KateDeibel> I'm very used to editing dyslexic text... and want to learn github
<JohnRochford> I too volunteer.
<Elle_Waters> Regrets, all, needed to drop off early (phone line disconnected due to signal issues!)
<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/0027.html
<janina> Perhaps "the accessibility-inaccessibility continum" ?
<Tony_Doran__> Yes yes yes, Accessible != usable
<neilmilliken> elle and i are trying to map the cross over between accessible and usable
KateDeibel: Is worried about avoiding "good technical accessibility but poor usability" issues
<neilmilliken> if it's not usable it's not accessible but there degrees of usability
neilmilliken: is trying with Elle to map the cross over between accessible and usable
<janina> Need to go to the ARIA call now, sorry!
<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/0027.html
<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/att-0029/cognativefunctiontable.html
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