User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference -- 26 Jun 2014

<trackbot> Date: 26 June 2014

TPAC registration

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2014AprJun/0070.html

TPAC F2F Meeting Sunday

AWK has agreed, and is completing forms for us to have a room on Sunday. We will be able to meet for 3 days.

Inlcude that 3rd day in any cost estimates to be sent to Jeanne for those who need support.

LG03 & SH03 - Jan's Proposal

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2014AprJun/0066.html

GL: looks fine

JS: Looks good

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2014AprJun/0069.html

JS: What order?

1) Retrieved, 2) Current, 3) recongized

GL: I was recommending the most common to least common occurance order
... but am ok with the proposed order.

RESOLUTION: Add Jan's proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2014AprJun/0069.html of 2 new Applicability Notes in the order of 1) Retrieved, 2) Current, 3) Recongized

<scribe> ACTION: jeanne to add Jan's proposal of http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2014AprJun/0069.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/26-ua-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-988 - Add jan's proposal of http://lists.w3.org/archives/public/w3c-wai-ua/2014aprjun/0069.html [on Jeanne F Spellman - due 2014-07-03].

SH04 - jan's proposal

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2014AprJun/0067.html

GL: I'm still trying to figure out that one.

<Jan> brb

<Jan> back

JS: I see the use case the table cell where the label of the heading would be displayed in the cell

GL: What if the cell header had an image? Would it display the alt text?
... I have an email I am drafting that has about 10 items like that.
... I think it can be saved, but it needs to be clarified more

[jeanne and greg discuss next steps]

1.4

http://www.w3.org/2014/05/08-ua-minutes.html

action-979 http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/tracker/actions/979

draft proposal for 1.4

<Greg> "Line spacing range including 1 and 2, with at least one step in between"?

1.4.1 - add line spacing as a bullet

<Greg> Line spacing, range includes 1x and 2x the base size, with at least one step in between

Line spacing, choosing from 1x to 2x the base size, with at least one step in between

Line spacing, choosing from 100% to 200% the base size, with at least one step in between

Line spacing, choosing from 1x to 2x the font size, with at least one step in between

Line spacing, choosing from at least 1x to 2x the font size, with at least one step in between

<Greg> It will be odd for 1.4.1 to have one item with very specific numbers, the rest being left entirely vague (e.g.you can comply with only two text scale choices, 1x and 10x).

<Greg> We could either leave the Level A requirement vague, without numbers, like we do for text scale, or we could make them both have numbers, or just leave one specific and one vague.

<Greg> Although in 1.4.1 only scale is vague; color and font are very specific.

Line spacing, choosing from a range of at least three

Line spacing, choosing from a range of at least three values

REmove lines spacing from 1.4.3

Proposed: Add to 1.4.1 Line spacing, choosing from a range with at least three values
... remove Lines spacing from 1.4.3

character spacing

WD: Character spacing MIN 0.02 to MAX 0.1
... character .01 to .1, much beyond it slows the reader down.

<Greg> Wayne also said "character spacing is most effective at .1"

[from the meeting of 8 May. Wayne was not on the call today]

<Greg> That's presumably adding an extra .01 to .1 em to the default character spacing.

<Greg> Adding an extra .01 to .1 *base character width* to the default character spacing.

Margins move to AA

Character spacing stays at AA

Text style moves to AAA

Margins = spacing between columns of text

<Greg> When we talk about margins, are we talking about the common meaning of page margins, or the CSS meaning of margins for anything and everything?

<Greg> Between or around?

around

<Greg> "Margins around columns of text"?

<Greg> Wayne proposed moving margins from AAA to AA, saying "there is one need group that would need column width and spacing issues to be AA...folks with 'tunnel vision' need the reduced spacing..."

Proposed: margins around columns of text will move into 1.4.3

<Greg> I'd be happy with titles like "Basic text formatting (Globally)", "Advanced text formatting (by Element)", etc.

botie, inform jeanne2 check your email for a message from me

<botie> will do

<botie> jeanne2, at 2014-06-26 18:28 UTC, jeanne said: check your email for a message from me

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User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference

26 Jun 2014

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