27 Jan 2014

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<Lisa_Seeman> invite Zakim

<Lisa_Seeman> trackbot, start telcon

<scribe> scribe: allanj

<neilmilliken> hi all I have no audio today as I am in a station waiting room

ls: review agenda, irc, etc


Home Page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/

Work Statement: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/work-statement

Email Archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/

Wiki Main Page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page

Wiki Gap Analysis: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis

Example User Scenario: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia#Scenario_and_user_story

<Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page

ls: Asks for Introductions of new participants

<neilmilliken> I have added to the Dyscalculia gap analysis -- it's very much a work in progress more to follow

<Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page

Gap Analysis

<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia

ls: want to use the same structure for other areas
... describes outline for dyslexia
... Description - simple, short description & definition
... Cognitive Function - background, technical reference, map to area of the brain
... Symptoms: practical information, something you might find on a fact sheet
... Challenges - functional manifestation of symptoms
... Scenario and User Story - associate a persona, symptoms and challenges, possible accessible strategies or steps to overcoming the challenges
... creating scenario for web accessibility and ICT or any other information delivery mechanisms
... describes rest of outline

nm: happy that the scenarios are expanded beyond the web. interested in dyscalculia

ls: explains a bit about consensus process, input welcome

<scribe> unknown: what is the engagement process for folks to share experience

ls: yes, looking for input, perhaps in usergroups

john: willing to help setup usergroups

<neilmilliken> there is very little on maths learning difficulties and how they affect people on the web - most testimonies are about everyday life

current usergroups


Brain injury sub set of aphasia,


Aging and Dementia,

Downs Syndrome




ls: short discussion on labels across countries

<Nethermind> Great suggestion, Jim

ja: perhaps a list of labels, alternative names, perhaps with country, or legalese

ls: can add that

<neilmilliken> I like related terms - I think it's a useful addition

john: where is the template

<neilmilliken> I'm comfortable adding to the gap analysis templates

<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis

search for "template" on the page

<neilmilliken> not on all of them :-)

khs: see page on aging http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Aging_and_Dementia
... please edit/contribute
... may be possible to use same scenario across cognitive areas
... perhaps email, setting thermostat

ls: User Scenarios and User Stories

<neilmilliken> Using the same scenarios to illustrate difficulties is a really good idea as it may highlight conflicting needs and requirements based upon differing needs

ls: anybody disagree with putting something similar the User Scenario for Dyslexia (important information) on all User Groups

<neilmilliken> I have to run now I have a train to catch ...

<Kinshuk> I agree, Lisa.

<bwj729> I think that there are many cases that would cross our types

km: "notification of an important/changing event" scenario
... broad enough to use across user groups

ls: who else is on dementia Users group (Katie, Elle, Mary Jo).

elle: won't turn anyone away, more is better

<richardschwerdtfeger> *stepping out a second

st: do we need a section on Goals in the template
... some disabilities have a broad spectrum, depending on the place in the spectrum, may have different goal
... especially for those with more severe cognitive disabilites

ls: that may be a large focus. interesting idea
... should be implied in the user story. Should have main goals

km: not trying to boil the ocean. Perhaps another user group would be "Strategies for Severe Cognitive Disability"
... these might cross all other areas.
... Contact Johnathan Chetwin(sp?)

ls: perhaps we need a set of User Scenarios that cross all areas and make sure they meet User Group Goals

elle: good idea, put time limit on how long to spend on creating goals

<bwj729> Have to jump to another meeting. Sorry. See you next week.

ls: anyone want an action to create goals.

<scribe> ACTION: Lisa to create a goal list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-coga-minutes.html#action01]

anyone look at email on reviewing UAAG20

no response

<Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG20/

due date is Jan 31

it is a Last Call document

<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/

<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Jan/0003.html

ls: any other comments?

<_665> =goodbye

<Lisa_Seeman> Thanks Jim

<katherinemancuso_> thank you everyone! :)

<katherinemancuso_> and allan, thank you especially for the fantastic scribing

title: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Telecon

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Lisa to create a goal list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-coga-minutes.html#action01]
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