IRC log of coga on 2014-01-27

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17:03:19 [Lisa_Seeman]
invite Zakim
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trackbot, start telcon
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scribe: allanj
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hi all I have no audio today as I am in a station waiting room
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agenda+ preview agenda
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agenda+ Any new introductions
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agenda+ Defining challenges and making user scenarios
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agenda+ Table of content for gap analysis
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agenda+ Table of content for roadmap
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agenda+ Request to review UAAG 2.0
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agenda+ Actions
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agenda+ be done
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ls: review agenda, irc, etc
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Chair: LisaSeeman
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Topic: Resources
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Home Page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/
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Work Statement: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/work-statement
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Email Archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/
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Wiki Main Page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
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Wiki Gap Analysis: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
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Example User Scenario: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia#Scenario_and_user_story
17:10:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
17:11:48 [allanj]
ls: Asks for Introductions of new participants
17:12:40 [neilmilliken]
I have added to the Dyscalculia gap analysis -- it's very much a work in progress more to follow
17:14:01 [Lisa_Seeman]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
17:14:12 [allanj]
zakim, agenda?
17:14:12 [Zakim]
I see nothing on the agenda
17:15:22 [allanj]
Topic: Gap Analysis
17:15:42 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia
17:16:51 [allanj]
ls: want to use the same structure for other areas
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ls: describes outline for dyslexia
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ls: Description - simple, short description & definition
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ls: Cognitive Function - background, technical reference, map to area of the brain
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ls: Symptoms: practical information, something you might find on a fact sheet
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ls: Challenges - functional manifestation of symptoms
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ls: Scenario and User Story - associate a persona, symptoms and challenges, possible accessible strategies or steps to overcoming the challenges
17:25:11 [allanj]
ls: creating scenario for web accessibility and ICT or any other information delivery mechanisms
17:26:14 [Lisa_Seeman]
q?
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ls: describes rest of outline
17:26:40 [neilmilliken]
Q+
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ack neilmilliken
17:28:17 [allanj]
nm: happy that the scenarios are expanded beyond the web. interested in dyscalculia
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ls: explains a bit about consensus process, input welcome
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unknown: what is the engagement process for folks to share experience
17:30:16 [allanj]
ls: yes, looking for input, perhaps in usergroups
17:30:27 [katherinemancuso_]
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john: willing to help setup usergroups
17:31:44 [neilmilliken]
there is very little on maths learning difficulties and how they affect people on the web - most testimonies are about everyday life
17:31:55 [allanj]
current usergroups
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dyslexia,
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Brain injury sub set of aphasia,
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non-vocal,
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Aging and Dementia,
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Downs Syndrome
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ADD/ADHD
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autism
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dyscalculia.
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ls: short discussion on labels across countries
17:33:54 [Nethermind]
Great suggestion, Jim
17:34:31 [allanj]
ja: perhaps a list of labels, alternative names, perhaps with country, or legalese
17:34:51 [allanj]
ls: can add that
17:34:54 [neilmilliken]
I like related terms - I think it's a useful addition
17:35:27 [allanj]
john: where is the template
17:35:32 [neilmilliken]
I'm comfortable adding to the gap analysis templates
17:35:59 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
17:36:53 [allanj]
search for "template" on the page
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17:37:58 [neilmilliken]
not on all of them :-)
17:38:58 [Lisa_Seeman]
Q?
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khs: see page on aging http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Aging_and_Dementia
17:40:16 [allanj]
... please edit/contribute
17:41:39 [allanj]
... may be possible to use same scenario across cognitive areas
17:41:59 [allanj]
... perhaps email, setting thermostat
17:42:40 [allanj]
ls: User Scenarios and User Stories
17:42:47 [neilmilliken]
Using the same scenarios to illustrate difficulties is a really good idea as it may highlight conflicting needs and requirements based upon differing needs
17:43:48 [allanj]
ls: anybody disagree with putting something similar the User Scenario for Dyslexia (important information) on all User Groups
17:43:57 [neilmilliken]
I have to run now I have a train to catch ...
17:44:15 [Kinshuk]
I agree, Lisa.
17:44:20 [bwj729]
I think that there are many cases that would cross our types
17:44:24 [allanj]
khs: "notification of an important/changing event" scenario
17:44:36 [allanj]
... broad enough to use across user groups
17:45:41 [allanj]
ls: who else is on dementia Users group (Katie, Elle, Mary Jo).
17:45:59 [allanj]
elle: won't turn anyone away, more is better
17:46:24 [richardschwerdtfeger]
*stepping out a second
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s/khs/km
17:48:16 [Suzanne]
q+
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st: do we need a section on Goals in the template
17:49:37 [allanj]
... some disabilities have a broad spectrum, depending on the place in the spectrum, may have different goal
17:49:56 [allanj]
... especially for those with more severe cognitive disabilites
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ls: that may be a large focus. interesting idea
17:51:02 [allanj]
... should be implied in the user story. Should have main goals
17:52:13 [allanj]
km: not trying to boil the ocean. Perhaps another user group would be "Strategies for Severe Cognitive Disability"
17:52:30 [allanj]
... these might cross all other areas.
17:53:02 [allanj]
km: Contact Johnathan Chetwin(sp?)
17:54:41 [allanj]
ls: perhaps we need a set of User Scenarios that cross all areas and make sure they meet User Group Goals
17:55:18 [allanj]
elle: good idea, put time limit on how long to spend on creating goals
17:55:26 [bwj729]
Have to jump to another meeting. Sorry. See you next week.
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17:55:39 [allanj]
ls: anyone want an action to create goals.
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action: Lisa to create a goal list
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topic: anyone look at email on reviewing UAAG20
17:56:51 [allanj]
no response
17:57:12 [Lisa_Seeman]
http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG20/
17:57:58 [allanj]
due date is Jan 31
17:58:22 [allanj]
it is a Last Call document
17:58:29 [Lisa_Seeman]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/
17:58:43 [allanj]
rrsagent, make minutes
17:58:43 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-coga-minutes.html allanj
17:58:58 [Lisa_Seeman]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Jan/0003.html
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ls: any other comments?
17:59:45 [allanj]
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-coga-minutes.html allanj
18:00:26 [_665]
=goodbye
18:00:27 [Lisa_Seeman]
Thanks Jim
18:00:31 [katherinemancuso_]
thank you everyone! :)
18:00:51 [katherinemancuso_]
and allan, thank you especially for the fantastic scribing
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zakim, please part
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-coga-minutes.html allanj
18:02:03 [allanj]
title: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Telecon
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I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-coga-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Lisa to create a goal list [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-coga-irc#T17-56-04