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17:03:19 <Lisa_Seeman> invite Zakim
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17:06:50 <allanj> scribe: allanj
17:07:13 <neilmilliken> hi all I have no audio today as I am in a station waiting room
17:07:40 <allanj> agenda+ preview agenda
17:07:41 <allanj> agenda+ Any new introductions
17:07:43 <allanj> agenda+ Defining challenges and making user scenarios
17:07:44 <allanj> agenda+ Table of content for gap analysis
17:07:46 <allanj> agenda+ Table of content for roadmap
17:07:47 <allanj> agenda+ Request to review UAAG 2.0
17:07:49 <allanj> agenda+ Actions
17:07:50 <allanj> agenda+ be done
17:08:09 <allanj> ls: review agenda, irc, etc
17:08:39 <allanj> rrsagent, set logs public
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17:10:07 <allanj> Chair: LisaSeeman
17:10:26 <allanj> Topic: Resources
17:10:29 <allanj> Home Page:    http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/
17:10:31 <allanj> Work Statement: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/work-statement
17:10:32 <allanj> Email Archive:    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/
17:10:34 <allanj> Wiki Main Page:  http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
17:10:36 <allanj> Wiki Gap Analysis: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
17:10:37 <allanj> Example User Scenario: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia#Scenario_and_user_story
17:10:39 <Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
17:11:48 <allanj> ls: Asks for Introductions of new participants
17:12:40 <neilmilliken> I have added to the Dyscalculia gap analysis -- it's very much a work in progress more to follow
17:14:01 <Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
17:14:12 <allanj> zakim, agenda?
17:14:12 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
17:15:22 <allanj> Topic: Gap Analysis
17:15:42 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia
17:16:51 <allanj> ls: want to use the same structure for other areas
17:17:27 <allanj> ls: describes outline for dyslexia
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17:18:57 <allanj> ls: Description - simple, short description & definition
17:20:06 <allanj> ls: Cognitive Function - background, technical reference, map to area of the brain
17:20:47 <allanj> ls: Symptoms: practical information, something you might find on a fact sheet
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17:21:44 <allanj> ls: Challenges - functional manifestation of symptoms
17:23:55 <allanj> ls: Scenario and User Story - associate a persona, symptoms and challenges, possible accessible strategies or steps to overcoming the challenges
17:25:11 <allanj> ls: creating scenario for web accessibility and ICT or any other information delivery mechanisms
17:26:14 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:26:28 <allanj> ls: describes rest of outline
17:26:40 <neilmilliken> Q+
17:27:04 <allanj> ack neilmilliken
17:28:17 <allanj> nm: happy that the scenarios are expanded beyond the web. interested in dyscalculia
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17:28:57 <allanj> ls: explains a bit about consensus process, input welcome
17:29:52 <allanj> unknown: what is the engagement process for folks to share experience
17:30:16 <allanj> ls: yes, looking for input, perhaps in usergroups
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17:31:38 <allanj> john: willing to help setup usergroups
17:31:44 <neilmilliken> there is very little on maths learning difficulties and how they affect people on the web - most testimonies are about everyday life
17:31:55 <allanj> current usergroups
17:32:00 <allanj>     dyslexia,
17:32:01 <allanj>     Brain injury sub set of aphasia,
17:32:03 <allanj>     non-vocal,
17:32:04 <allanj>     Aging and Dementia,
17:32:06 <allanj>     Downs Syndrome
17:32:07 <allanj>     ADD/ADHD
17:32:09 <allanj>     autism
17:32:10 <allanj>     dyscalculia.
17:32:30 <allanj> ls: short discussion on labels across countries
17:33:54 <Nethermind> Great suggestion, Jim
17:34:31 <allanj> ja: perhaps a list of labels, alternative names, perhaps with country, or legalese
17:34:51 <allanj> ls: can add that
17:34:54 <neilmilliken> I like related terms - I think it's a useful addition
17:35:27 <allanj> john: where is the template
17:35:32 <neilmilliken> I'm comfortable adding to the gap analysis templates
17:35:59 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
17:36:53 <allanj> search for "template" on the page
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17:37:58 <neilmilliken> not on all of them :-)
17:38:58 <Lisa_Seeman> Q?
17:39:42 <allanj> khs: see page on aging http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Aging_and_Dementia
17:40:16 <allanj> ... please edit/contribute
17:41:39 <allanj> ... may be possible to use same scenario across cognitive areas
17:41:59 <allanj> ... perhaps email, setting thermostat
17:42:40 <allanj> ls: User Scenarios and User Stories
17:42:47 <neilmilliken> Using the same scenarios to illustrate difficulties is a really good idea as it may highlight conflicting needs and requirements based upon differing needs
17:43:48 <allanj> ls: anybody disagree with putting something similar the User Scenario for Dyslexia (important information) on all User Groups
17:43:57 <neilmilliken> I have to run now I have a train to catch ...
17:44:15 <Kinshuk> I agree, Lisa.
17:44:20 <bwj729> I think that there are many cases that would cross our types
17:44:24 <allanj> khs: "notification of an important/changing event" scenario
17:44:36 <allanj> ... broad enough to use across user groups
17:45:41 <allanj> ls: who else is on dementia Users group (Katie, Elle, Mary Jo).
17:45:59 <allanj> elle: won't turn anyone away, more is better
17:46:24 <richardschwerdtfeger> *stepping out a second
17:46:40 <allanj> s/khs/km
17:48:16 <Suzanne> q+
17:49:01 <allanj> st: do we need a section on Goals in the template
17:49:37 <allanj> ... some disabilities have a broad spectrum, depending on the place in the spectrum, may have different goal
17:49:56 <allanj> ... especially for those with more severe cognitive disabilites
17:50:41 <allanj> ls: that may be a large focus. interesting idea
17:51:02 <allanj> ... should be implied in the user story. Should have main goals
17:52:13 <allanj> km: not trying to boil the ocean. Perhaps another user group would be "Strategies for Severe Cognitive Disability"
17:52:30 <allanj> ... these might cross all other areas.
17:53:02 <allanj> km: Contact Johnathan Chetwin(sp?)
17:54:41 <allanj> ls: perhaps we need a set of User Scenarios that cross all areas and make sure they meet User Group Goals
17:55:18 <allanj> elle: good idea, put time limit on how long to spend on creating goals
17:55:26 <bwj729> Have to jump to another meeting. Sorry. See you next week.
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17:55:39 <allanj> ls: anyone want an action to create goals.
17:56:04 <allanj> action: Lisa to create a goal list
17:56:40 <allanj> topic: anyone look at email on reviewing UAAG20
17:56:51 <allanj> no response
17:57:12 <Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG20/
17:57:58 <allanj> due date is Jan 31
17:58:22 <allanj> it is a Last Call document
17:58:29 <Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/
17:58:43 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
17:58:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-coga-minutes.html allanj
17:58:58 <Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Jan/0003.html
17:59:18 <allanj> ls: any other comments?
17:59:45 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
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18:00:26 <_665> =goodbye
18:00:27 <Lisa_Seeman> Thanks  Jim
18:00:31 <katherinemancuso_> thank you everyone! :)
18:00:51 <katherinemancuso_> and allan, thank you especially for the fantastic scribing
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18:01:20 <allanj> zakim, please part
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18:01:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-coga-minutes.html allanj
18:02:03 <allanj> title: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Telecon
18:02:10 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
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18:02:34 <allanj> rrsagent, please part
18:02:34 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-coga-actions.rdf :
18:02:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Lisa to create a goal list [1]
18:02:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-coga-irc#T17-56-04