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XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 05 November 2008

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Nov/0000.html
Seen
Alessio Cartocci, Gregory Rosmaita, Mark Birbeck, Roland Merrick, Steven Pemberton, Tina Holmboe, Unknown mib_7mdzbx
Regrets
Mark Birbeck
Chair
Roland Merrick
Scribe
Gregory Rosmaita
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. close action 7, noting a duplicate of action 17 link
  2. close action 3 - include note referencing the f2f minutes link
Topics

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14:46:01 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-irc

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14:46:11 <RolandMerrick> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
14:46:22 <Steven> trackbot, start telcon

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14:46:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

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14:46:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2

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14:46:27 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start now

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14:46:28 <trackbot> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
14:46:28 <trackbot> Date: 05 November 2008
14:46:41 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started

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14:46:48 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita

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14:47:40 <Zakim> +Roland_Merrick

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14:47:52 <Roland> Zakim, Roland_Merrick is Roland

Roland Merrick: Zakim, Roland_Merrick is Roland ←

14:47:52 <Zakim> +Roland; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Roland; got it ←

14:48:14 <Steven> 04mib_7mdzbx01, hi, want to indeitfy who you are?

Steven Pemberton: 04mib_7mdzbx01, hi, want to indeitfy who you are? ←

14:48:18 <Roland> Regrets: Mark
14:48:21 <Steven> indentify

Steven Pemberton: indentify ←

14:48:56 <mib_7mdzbx> ops, I'm alessio

Scribe problem: the name 'mib_7mdzbx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'mib_7mdzbx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown mib_7mdzbx: ops, I'm alessio ←

14:49:05 <Steven> ciao alessio

Steven Pemberton: ciao alessio ←

14:49:09 <Roland> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Nov/0000.html
14:49:16 <mib_7mdzbx> mibbit gave me this horrible nick

Scribe problem: the name 'mib_7mdzbx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'mib_7mdzbx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown mib_7mdzbx: mibbit gave me this horrible nick ←

14:49:21 <mib_7mdzbx> ciao steven :)

Scribe problem: the name 'mib_7mdzbx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'mib_7mdzbx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown mib_7mdzbx: ciao steven :) ←

14:49:23 <Roland> Chair: Roland
14:49:29 <Tina> Uh. My phone doesn't seem to work ...

Tina Holmboe: Uh. My phone doesn't seem to work ... ←

14:49:29 <mib_7mdzbx> relogging...

Scribe problem: the name 'mib_7mdzbx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'mib_7mdzbx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown mib_7mdzbx: relogging... ←

14:49:51 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes

Roland Merrick: rrsagent, make minutes ←

14:49:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html Roland

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html Roland ←

14:50:06 <Roland> rrsagent, make log public

Roland Merrick: rrsagent, make log public ←

14:52:01 <alessio> zakim, code

Alessio Cartocci: zakim, code ←

14:52:01 <Zakim> I don't understand 'code', alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'code', alessio ←

14:52:13 <Steven> zakim, code?

Steven Pemberton: zakim, code? ←

14:52:13 <Zakim> the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Steven ←

14:52:19 <alessio> that's not 94865?

Alessio Cartocci: that's not 94865? ←

14:52:44 <alessio> thx steven, zakim doesn't log

Alessio Cartocci: thx steven, zakim doesn't log ←

14:53:25 <Zakim> +??P7

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P7 ←

14:53:35 <alessio> zakim, +??P7

Alessio Cartocci: zakim, +??P7 ←

14:53:35 <Zakim> I saw ??P7 just arrive

Zakim IRC Bot: I saw ??P7 just arrive ←

14:53:54 <alessio> +??P7 is alessio

Alessio Cartocci: +??P7 is alessio ←

14:54:01 <Steven> zakim, ??P7 is Alessio

Steven Pemberton: zakim, ??P7 is Alessio ←

14:54:01 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Alessio; got it ←

14:56:11 <oedipus> TOPIC: News & Agenda Review

1. News & Agenda Review

14:56:19 <oedipus> Scribe: Gregory_Rosmaita

(Scribe set to Gregory Rosmaita)

14:56:30 <oedipus> ScribeNick: oedipus
14:56:44 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20 - passed new milestone

http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20 - passed new milestone ←

14:56:55 <oedipus> RM: action item review

Roland Merrick: action item review ←

14:57:05 <Roland> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/open

Roland Merrick: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/open ←

14:57:08 <oedipus> regrets+ Tina_(IRC_only)

regrets+ Tina_(IRC_only) ←

14:57:27 <oedipus> AC: want to share our thoughts about tina's note at conference

Alessio Cartocci: want to share our thoughts about tina's note at conference ←

14:57:43 <oedipus> AC: will email TH to provide some suggestions and info

Alessio Cartocci: will email TH to provide some suggestions and info ←

14:57:47 <oedipus> RM: good

Roland Merrick: good ←

14:58:06 <alessio> on blog.iwa.it

Alessio Cartocci: on blog.iwa.it ←

14:58:06 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes ←

14:58:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus ←

14:58:15 <oedipus> TOPIC: Action Item Review

2. Action Item Review

14:58:48 <oedipus> RM: Action 3 covered at f2f - covered all issues & decided what to do with spec; would like to close

Roland Merrick: ACTION-3 covered at f2f - covered all issues & decided what to do with spec; would like to close ←

14:59:09 <oedipus> GJR: suggests close with note referencing the f2f minutes

Gregory Rosmaita: suggests close with note referencing the f2f minutes ←

14:59:45 <oedipus> RM: close without objection

Roland Merrick: close without objection ←

14:59:51 <oedipus> RM: don't know if shane done action 4

Roland Merrick: don't know if shane done ACTION-4 ←

15:00:02 <oedipus> RM: haven't done action seven

Roland Merrick: haven't done action seven ←

15:00:19 <oedipus> GJR: have outstanding action item - will try to discharge today

Gregory Rosmaita: have outstanding action item - will try to discharge today ←

15:00:50 <oedipus> RM: duplicate action: 17 (HTML5 positioning) already one on SP (action 7)

Roland Merrick: duplicate action: 17 (HTML5 positioning) already one on SP (ACTION-7) ←

15:01:03 <oedipus> RESOLVED: close action 7, noting a duplicate of action 17

RESOLVED: close ACTION-7, noting a duplicate of ACTION-17 ←

15:01:55 <oedipus> RESOLVED: close action 3 - include note referencing the f2f minutes

RESOLVED: close ACTION-3 - include note referencing the f2f minutes ←

15:02:27 <oedipus> RM: don't know if can do much with any of the specs - with shane to be readied for transition, or in process of being moved by steven

Roland Merrick: don't know if can do much with any of the specs - with shane to be readied for transition, or in process of being moved by steven ←

15:02:53 <oedipus> RM: SP will reinvestigate at return

Roland Merrick: SP will reinvestigate at return ←

15:04:20 <Roland> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/Overview.html#xhtmlmime

Roland Merrick: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/Overview.html#xhtmlmime ←

15:04:46 <oedipus> http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/MarkUp

http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/MarkUp ←

15:04:54 <oedipus> http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/MarkUp/XHTML2

http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/MarkUp/XHTML2 ←

15:06:38 <oedipus> GJR: will use URI provided by RM in informational email

Gregory Rosmaita: will use URI provided by RM in informational email ←

15:07:26 <oedipus> GJR: will reset pointers to document development area

Gregory Rosmaita: will reset pointers to document development area ←

15:08:13 <oedipus> RM: not enough people to make progress on main items -- alessio, issues?

Roland Merrick: not enough people to make progress on main items -- alessio, issues? ←

15:08:47 <oedipus> move to ADJOURN - any questions from those on IRC only?

move to ADJOURN - any questions from those on IRC only? ←

15:10:06 <Zakim> -Roland

Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland ←

15:10:07 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita

Zakim IRC Bot: -Gregory_Rosmaita ←

15:10:10 <Zakim> -Alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: -Alessio ←

15:10:12 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended ←

15:10:14 <Zakim> Attendees were Gregory_Rosmaita, Roland, Alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Gregory_Rosmaita, Roland, Alessio ←

15:10:18 <oedipus> zakim, please part

zakim, please part ←

15:10:24 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes ←

15:10:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus ←

15:10:50 <Roland> Present+ Steven(IRC_only), Tina(IRC_only)

Roland Merrick: Present+ Steven(IRC_only), Tina(IRC_only) ←

15:10:59 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes

Roland Merrick: rrsagent, make minutes ←

15:10:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html Roland

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html Roland ←

15:11:43 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes

Roland Merrick: rrsagent, make minutes ←

15:11:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html Roland

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html Roland ←

15:12:42 <Steven_> rrsagent, here

Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, here ←

15:12:42 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-irc#T15-12-42

RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-irc#T15-12-42 ←

15:13:01 <alessio> but today we know that anything is impossible...

Alessio Cartocci: but today we know that anything is impossible... ←

15:13:24 <Tina> We certainly know quite a few things that we THOUGHT were impossible are quite possible. Not all of it good.

Tina Holmboe: We certainly know quite a few things that we THOUGHT were impossible are quite possible. Not all of it good. ←

15:15:38 <oedipus> regrets- Tina_(IRC_only)

regrets- Tina_(IRC_only) ←

15:15:42 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes ←

15:15:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/05-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus ←

15:24:53 <oedipus> rrsagent, please part

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rrsagent, please part ←

15:24:53 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items ←



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