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14:03:34 <Roland> Zakim, list

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14:03:35 <Zakim> I see IA_XHTML2()9:00AM, WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM, Team_W3M()8:00AM active

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14:03:36 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time is I18N_TS()9:00AM

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14:04:16 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617

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14:04:16 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

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14:04:18 <Zakim> +Steven

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14:04:18 <Roland> Zakim, this is XHTML2

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14:04:18 <Zakim> Roland, this was already IA_XHTML2()9:00AM

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14:04:19 <Zakim> ok, Roland; that matches IA_XHTML2()9:00AM

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14:04:56 <Steven> zakim, drop steven

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14:05:05 <ShaneM> low tech crap

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14:05:29 <Roland> we were listening to answering service

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14:07:55 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617

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14:07:55 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

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14:07:57 <Zakim> +Steven

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14:08:22 <Steven> Scribe: Steven

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14:08:34 <Steven> Meeting; XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference

14:08:40 <Steven> Chair: Roland

14:09:01 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Feb/0006.html

14:09:20 <Steven> Topic: Reviews:

1. Reviews:

14:09:30 <Steven> Roland: These are done

Roland Merrick: These are done ←

14:09:33 <Steven> Topic: FtF

2. FtF

14:09:42 <Steven> Roland: We are still waiting for some people to register

Roland Merrick: We are still waiting for some people to register ←

14:09:50 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←

14:10:24 <Steven> ... we'll come back to this

... we'll come back to this ←

14:10:28 <Steven> Topic: ARIA

3. ARIA

14:10:36 <Zakim> +ShaneM

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14:10:48 <Steven> Roland: Status? Gregory had an action, but he's not here (yet)

Roland Merrick: Status? Gregory had an action, but he's not here (yet) ←

14:11:08 <Steven> Rich: In the latest ARIA spec, we have a sectiopn on host languages

Richard Schwerdtfeger: In the latest ARIA spec, we have a sectiopn on host languages ←

14:11:22 <Steven> ... so I think the namespace issue is resolved

... so I think the namespace issue is resolved ←

14:12:02 <Rich> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-wai-aria-20080204/#implementation

Richard Schwerdtfeger: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-wai-aria-20080204/#implementation ←

14:12:21 <Steven> ... I'm not sure what the issue is

... I'm not sure what the issue is ←

14:12:28 <Steven> ... I think it has been resolved

... I think it has been resolved ←

14:14:17 <Steven> ... we have taken the parameters from XHTML2, and we think we will be in HTML5

... we have taken the parameters from XHTML2, and we think we will be in HTML5 ←

14:14:45 <Steven> Roland: You are preparing to go to Last Call, so you think you have no outstanding issues?

Roland Merrick: You are preparing to go to Last Call, so you think you have no outstanding issues? ←

14:15:10 <Steven> Rich: We are doing a new draft, and we are preparing to go to last call in about 6 weeks.

Richard Schwerdtfeger: We are doing a new draft, and we are preparing to go to last call in about 6 weeks. ←

14:15:28 <Steven> Shane: Do you mean namespaced values, or a namespaced attribute

Shane McCarron: Do you mean namespaced values, or a namespaced attribute ←

14:15:52 <Steven> Rich: They are incorporating all the values without namespaces into HTML5

Richard Schwerdtfeger: They are incorporating all the values without namespaces into HTML5 ←

14:16:06 <Steven> ... the attribute will be native in the language

... the attribute will be native in the language ←

14:16:14 <Steven> ... we have to fix it up in middleware

... we have to fix it up in middleware ←

14:16:33 <Steven> Shane: We have a role attribute in the rec track

Shane McCarron: We have a role attribute in the rec track ←

14:16:38 <Steven> ... what is the relation?

... what is the relation? ←

14:16:59 <Steven> Rich: We have a namespaced version in Firefox 2, and without namespace in Firefox 3

Richard Schwerdtfeger: We have a namespaced version in Firefox 2, and without namespace in Firefox 3 ←

14:17:20 <Steven> ... (the values are not namespaced)

... (the values are not namespaced) ←

14:17:30 <Steven> Shane: That is insane

Shane McCarron: That is insane ←

14:18:16 <Steven> Roland: So from the ARIA spec point of view you are wrapping up for last call, and there are no issues that we need to deal with?

Roland Merrick: So from the ARIA spec point of view you are wrapping up for last call, and there are no issues that we need to deal with? ←

14:18:19 <Steven> Rich: No

Richard Schwerdtfeger: No ←

14:18:31 <Steven> Roland: OK

Roland Merrick: OK ←

14:18:38 <Steven> Topic: CURIE to last call

4. CURIE to last call

14:18:57 <Steven> Roland: I'm following the process, I have talked to some chairs, and the HCG

Roland Merrick: I'm following the process, I have talked to some chairs, and the HCG ←

14:19:19 <Steven> Regrets: MarkB

14:20:03 <Steven> Roland: The proposed dates were in the message I sent to the chairs

Roland Merrick: The proposed dates were in the message I sent to the chairs ←

14:20:25 <Steven> Steven: Then there is an action on me to finalise this at HCG

Steven Pemberton: Then there is an action on me to finalise this at HCG ←

14:20:43 <Steven> Roalnd: The dates were "starting ASAP and ending 4 weeks later"

Roland Merrick: The dates were "starting ASAP and ending 4 weeks later" ←

14:21:00 <Steven> Roland: I leave for Venice tomorrow, so Steven is doing this at HCG

Roland Merrick: I leave for Venice tomorrow, so Steven is doing this at HCG ←

14:21:10 <Steven> s/Roal/Rola/

14:21:28 <Steven> Roland: We have received some feedback already for CURIES this week

Roland Merrick: We have received some feedback already for CURIES this week ←

14:22:03 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0006.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0006.html ←

14:22:07 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0007

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0007 ←

14:23:04 <Steven> Shane: This is mostly editorial

Shane McCarron: This is mostly editorial ←

14:23:19 <Steven> Steven: With a negative comment at the end of Walsh's

Steven Pemberton: With a negative comment at the end of Walsh's ←

14:23:37 <Steven> Shane, Yes, I wish he would say what the costs are, because I don't think there are any

Shane McCarron: Yes I wish he would say what the costs are, because I don't think there are any ←

14:23:47 <Steven> ... I'll fix the editorial comments

... I'll fix the editorial comments ←

14:24:06 <Steven> ... too bad Mark isn't here

... too bad Mark isn't here ←

14:24:32 <Steven> Shane: There is the issue of alternative prefixing mechanisms

Shane McCarron: There is the issue of alternative prefixing mechanisms ←

14:24:45 <Steven> ... these are to support non XML languages

... these are to support non XML languages ←

14:25:07 <Steven> ... the wording seems to suggest that they could be used in XML as well

... the wording seems to suggest that they could be used in XML as well ←

14:25:24 <Steven> ... (I personally object to using xmlns for Curies, but no one else seems to share this worry)

... (I personally object to using xmlns for Curies, but no one else seems to share this worry) ←

14:25:48 <Steven> Roland: Maybe a note in the spec that we would like feedback on this issue?

Roland Merrick: Maybe a note in the spec that we would like feedback on this issue? ←

14:25:57 <Steven> Shane: Oh yes, since this is last call; I like that

Shane McCarron: Oh yes, since this is last call; I like that ←

14:26:22 <Steven> SHane: Norm and Stuart both indicated that there ought to be an XML schema datatype for CURIEs

Shane McCarron: Norm and Stuart both indicated that there ought to be an XML schema datatype for CURIEs ←

14:26:26 <Steven> s/SH/Sh/

14:28:45 <Steven> Steven: Does he think it should be an xh:CURIE or an xsd:curie?

Steven Pemberton: Does he think it should be an xh:CURIE or an xsd:curie? ←

14:28:48 <Steven> Shane: THe latter

Shane McCarron: The latter ←

14:28:55 <Steven> s/TH/Th/

14:29:42 <Steven> Roland: Will you fix these comments beforeLC?

Roland Merrick: Will you fix these comments before LC? ←

14:29:46 <Steven> Shane: Sure

Shane McCarron: Sure ←

14:29:52 <Steven> s/LC/ LC/

14:30:22 <Steven> Shane: The one comment I don't know how to address is that we assert that QNames are inappropriate for use in attributes

Shane McCarron: The one comment I don't know how to address is that we assert that QNames are inappropriate for use in attributes ←

14:30:33 <Steven> ... Norm doesn't find the reasons compelling

... Norm doesn't find the reasons compelling ←

14:30:51 <Steven> Roland: They are used that way regardless

Roland Merrick: They are used that way regardless ←

14:31:37 <Zakim> -ShaneM

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14:32:03 <Zakim> +ShaneM

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14:32:18 <Steven> Steven: THe big reason for CURIEs for me is that the value space is all URIs, while QNames have a restricted space

Steven Pemberton: The big reason for CURIEs for me is that the value space is all URIs, while QNames have a restricted space ←

14:32:23 <Steven> s/TH/Th/

14:32:41 <Steven> Shane: And we say that

Shane McCarron: And we say that ←

14:32:46 <Steven> Steven: Absolutely

Steven Pemberton: Absolutely ←

14:32:59 <Steven> Roland: THe LC will flush all these things and we can deal with them once and for all

Roland Merrick: The LC will flush all these things and we can deal with them once and for all ←

14:33:04 <Steven> s/TH/Th/

14:33:17 <Steven> Topic: RDFa Syntax

5. RDFa Syntax

14:33:20 <Steven> Roland: Status?

Roland Merrick: Status? ←

14:33:38 <Steven> Shane: We got comments from the semweb people

Shane McCarron: We got comments from the semweb people ←

14:33:50 <Steven> ... that Mark needs to update the doc for

... that Mark needs to update the doc for ←

14:34:48 <Steven> ... the Semweb group hasn't yet agreed to go to last call until those edits are done

... the Semweb group hasn't yet agreed to go to last call until those edits are done ←

14:36:04 <Steven> Topic: M12N transition

6. M12N transition

14:36:56 <Steven> Steven: I haven't had a response yet; maybe because of XML10; I'll ping them again

Steven Pemberton: I haven't had a response yet; maybe because of XML10; I'll ping them again ←

14:37:21 <Steven> Topic: XHTML Basic

7. XHTML Basic

14:37:29 <Steven> Roland: Moving to PR

Roland Merrick: Moving to PR ←

14:37:56 <Steven> Steven: I have a draft implementation report that I will finish and post for the FtF

Steven Pemberton: I have a draft implementation report that I will finish and post for the FtF ←

14:38:08 <Steven> Roland: OK

Roland Merrick: OK ←

14:38:20 <Steven> Topic: XHTML 1.1 2e

8. XHTML 1.1 2e

14:38:30 <Steven> Roland: There are a few actions outstanding

Roland Merrick: There are a few actions outstanding ←

14:38:38 <Steven> ... even though it is waiting on M12N

... even though it is waiting on M12N ←

14:39:15 <Steven> ... the first is inputmode

... the first is inputmode ←

14:39:20 <Steven> Shane: That is still to be done

Shane McCarron: That is still to be done ←

14:39:44 <Steven> Roland: The second is Ruby with schema additions

Roland Merrick: The second is Ruby with schema additions ←

14:39:50 <Steven> Shane: How do we do that?

Shane McCarron: How do we do that? ←

14:39:56 <Steven> Steven: Do we own it?

Steven Pemberton: Do we own it? ←

14:39:59 <Steven> Shane: No

Shane McCarron: No ←

14:40:20 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/ruby/

http://www.w3.org/TR/ruby/ ←

14:40:53 <Steven> Steven: It's owned by I18N WG

Steven Pemberton: It's owned by I18N WG ←

14:41:20 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/International/core/

http://www.w3.org/International/core/ ←

14:42:11 <Steven> Steven: It looks like Richard Ishida is the team contact

Steven Pemberton: It looks like Richard Ishida is the team contact ←

14:42:24 <Steven> Shane: It only needs an appendix with a schema

Shane McCarron: It only needs an appendix with a schema ←

14:42:44 <Steven> Steven: Addison Phillips of Yahoo is the chair

Steven Pemberton: Addison Phillips of Yahoo is the chair ←

14:43:24 <Steven> Shane: We already have the schema module

Shane McCarron: We already have the schema module ←

14:43:38 <Steven> Steven: Shall I contact I18N?

Steven Pemberton: Shall I contact I18N? ←

14:43:50 <Steven> Shane: It is pretty trivial

Shane McCarron: It is pretty trivial ←

14:43:54 <Steven> Steven: It would be a PER

Steven Pemberton: It would be a PER ←

14:44:01 <Steven> Roland: Where is the schema module

Roland Merrick: Where is the schema module? ←

14:44:16 <Steven> s/module/module?/

14:44:25 <ShaneM> Schema modules are in here: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/SCHEMA/

Shane McCarron: Schema modules are in here: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/SCHEMA/ ←

14:44:47 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to contact I18N to PER Ruby with a schema module

ACTION: Steven to contact I18N to PER Ruby with a schema module ←

14:45:23 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to ping Bratt/TBL about M12N transition

ACTION: Steven to ping Bratt/TBL about M12N transition ←

14:45:53 <Steven> Roland: The other issue was "Mark creates integration set example "

Roland Merrick: The other issue was "Mark creates integration set example " ←

14:46:08 <Steven> ... but since he isn't here, we'll leave that for now

... but since he isn't here, we'll leave that for now ←

14:46:16 <Steven> Topic: FtF Agenda

9. FtF Agenda

14:46:28 <Roland> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/2007-02-Venice-FtF-Agenda

Roland Merrick: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/2007-02-Venice-FtF-Agenda ←

14:46:45 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←

14:46:52 <Steven> Steven: We will be using Zakim to conference in, and this IRC channel

Steven Pemberton: We will be using Zakim to conference in, and this IRC channel ←

14:47:04 <Steven> ... I will take a conference phone

... I will take a conference phone ←

14:47:20 <Zakim> +McCarron

Zakim IRC Bot: +McCarron ←

14:47:51 <ShaneM> zakim, McCarron is ShaneM

Shane McCarron: zakim, McCarron is ShaneM ←

14:47:51 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM; got it ←

14:48:32 <Steven> Steven: Is there anything around Print?

Steven Pemberton: Is there anything around Print? ←

14:48:41 <Steven> Roland: It is a Rec, what needs to be done?

Roland Merrick: It is a Rec, what needs to be done? ←

14:48:49 <Steven> Steven: A Schema when M12N is ready

Steven Pemberton: A Schema when M12N is ready ←

14:49:09 <Steven> ... and don't forget Basic implementation report on the agenda

... and don't forget Basic implementation report on the agenda ←

14:49:27 <Steven> Gerrie: Melinda Grant is currently unavailable, but there are some things left open

Gerrie Shults: Melinda Grant is currently unavailable, but there are some things left open ←

14:49:34 <Steven> ... test suites, and errata

... test suites, and errata ←

14:49:48 <Steven> ... I will try and get enough information for us to deal with it

... I will try and get enough information for us to deal with it ←

14:50:20 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2006/03/REC-xhtml-print-20060328-errata.html

http://www.w3.org/2006/03/REC-xhtml-print-20060328-errata.html ←

14:50:35 <Steven> Steven: The errata doc is currently empty

Steven Pemberton: The errata doc is currently empty ←

14:50:51 <Steven> ... which may mean that Melinda has some errata that need to be recorded

... which may mean that Melinda has some errata that need to be recorded ←

14:51:13 <Steven> ... are there any outstanding issues in the DB Shane?

... are there any outstanding issues in the DB Shane? ←

14:52:07 <Steven> Shane: No, there is nothing

Shane McCarron: No, there is nothing ←

14:52:22 <Steven> Gerrie: I will get back to Melinda

Gerrie Shults: I will get back to Melinda ←

14:53:10 <Steven> Topic: Role atribute module

10. Role attribute module

14:53:15 <Steven> s/atr/attr/

14:53:29 <Steven> Roland: Two of us sent comments

Roland Merrick: Two of us sent comments ←

14:54:16 <Steven> ... and Shane you have an action

... and Shane you have an action ←

14:54:27 <Steven> Shane: I will do them when I address the comments

Shane McCarron: I will do them when I address the comments ←

14:54:48 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Feb/0004.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Feb/0004.html ←

14:54:59 <Steven> Rich: I think we are using the OWL things just as an example

Richard Schwerdtfeger: I think we are using the OWL things just as an example ←

14:55:51 <Steven> Roland: We should eat our own dogfood

Roland Merrick: We should eat our own dogfood ←

14:56:03 <Steven> ... and have stuff at the end of our NS URI

... and have stuff at the end of our NS URI ←

14:56:19 <Steven> Shane: I would use RDFa

Shane McCarron: I would use RDFa ←

14:56:43 <Steven> Rich: It really helped us to do this since we could reduce our number of properties

Richard Schwerdtfeger: It really helped us to do this since we could reduce our number of properties ←

14:56:51 <Steven> ... (in ARIA)

... (in ARIA) ←

14:56:59 <Steven> ... OWL is fantastic for that

... OWL is fantastic for that ←

14:57:24 <Steven> Steven: Do we have an OWL expert in the group?

Steven Pemberton: Do we have an OWL expert in the group? ←

14:58:28 <Steven> Rich: As an example, when Microsoft was looking at our taxonomy, and we found some roles that were overlapping, so we could thin them down

Richard Schwerdtfeger: As an example, when Microsoft was looking at our taxonomy, and we found some roles that were overlapping, so we could thin them down ←

14:58:49 <Steven> ... we could also break up structural components vs widgets

... we could also break up structural components vs widgets ←

14:59:24 <Steven> Shane: Great. Then we should put that OWL stuff at the end of the #vocab URI

Shane McCarron: Great. Then we should put that OWL stuff at the end of the #vocab URI ←

15:00:13 <Steven> Roland: We should spend some time thinking about this

Roland Merrick: We should spend some time thinking about this ←

15:00:48 <Steven> Steven: Maybe look at the ARIA stuff during the FtF

Steven Pemberton: Maybe look at the ARIA stuff during the FtF ←

15:01:08 <Steven> Roland: There are a number of groups on W3C doing this stuff

Roland Merrick: There are a number of groups on W3C doing this stuff ←

15:01:18 <Steven> Topic: AOB

11. AOB

15:01:44 <Steven> Roland: So no call next week (FtF)

Roland Merrick: So no call next week (FtF) ←

15:01:54 <Steven> Steven: The dial in details will be on the IRC channel

Steven Pemberton: The dial in details will be on the IRC channel ←

15:01:55 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←

15:01:59 <Zakim> -gshults

Zakim IRC Bot: -gshults ←

15:02:01 <Zakim> -yamx

Zakim IRC Bot: -yamx ←

15:02:02 <Steven> [ADJOURN]

[ADJOURN] ←

15:02:04 <Zakim> -Roland

Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland ←

15:02:09 <Zakim> -Rich

Zakim IRC Bot: -Rich ←

15:02:10 <Zakim> -Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←

15:02:13 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has ended ←

15:02:15 <Zakim> Attendees were Roland, gshults, ShaneM, yamx, Steven, Rich

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Roland, gshults, ShaneM, yamx, Steven, Rich ←

15:02:19 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes ←

15:02:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/13-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/13-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←

15:02:27 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public

rrsagent, make log public ←

15:02:33 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes ←

15:02:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/13-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/13-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←

15:03:04 <Steven> s/Meeting;/Meeting:/

15:03:37 <ShaneM> steven - help?

Shane McCarron: steven - help? ←

15:03:41 <Steven> s/Shane, Yes,/Shane: Yes

15:03:55 <Steven> wassup Shane?

wassup Shane? ←

15:04:13 <ShaneM> w3c MarkUp folder seems to have lost its 2008 subfolder

Shane McCarron: w3c MarkUp folder seems to have lost its 2008 subfolder ←

15:04:17 <Steven> woh

woh ←

15:04:19 <Steven> just a moment

just a moment ←

15:05:13 <Steven> It's still there on jigteam

It's still there on jigteam ←

15:05:17 <Steven> , lookign further

, lookign further ←

15:06:16 <Steven> hmm

hmm ←

15:06:31 <Steven> it's there, but has an (empty?) Overview.html file

it's there, but has an (empty?) Overview.html file ←

15:07:18 <Steven> yep, it's empty

yep, it's empty ←

15:10:20 <Steven> I've removed the empty Overview.html file Shane

I've removed the empty Overview.html file Shane ←

15:10:59 <ShaneM> it doesnt show up in my space for whatever reason

Shane McCarron: it doesnt show up in my space for whatever reason ←

15:11:08 <ShaneM> maybe I dont have permission for that folder?

Shane McCarron: maybe I dont have permission for that folder? ←

15:11:28 <Steven> Well, it's odd, because it says that it is world access

Well, it's odd, because it says that it is world access ←

15:11:29 <ShaneM> but worse yet there were FILES in there

Shane McCarron: but worse yet there were FILES in there ←

15:11:37 <Steven> even the folder itself

even the folder itself ←

15:11:40 <ShaneM> I mean - we havre done editors drafts this year

Shane McCarron: I mean - we havre done editors drafts this year ←

15:11:51 <Steven> They are all there, I can see them

They are all there, I can see them ←

15:11:51 <ShaneM> maybe its a jigedit access setting thing?

Shane McCarron: maybe its a jigedit access setting thing? ←

15:12:00 <ShaneM> and I could see them a few days ago

Shane McCarron: and I could see them a few days ago ←

15:12:07 <Steven> hmm

hmm ←

15:12:31 <ShaneM> well - at least the files aren't gone - that woudl have sucked

Shane McCarron: well - at least the files aren't gone - that woudl have sucked ←

15:12:32 <Steven> Are you looking at www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ ? or via another route?

Are you looking at www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ ? or via another route? ←

15:12:47 <ShaneM> I am talking about jigedit

Shane McCarron: I am talking about jigedit ←

15:13:02 <ShaneM> http://jigedit.w3.org/smccarro/WWW/MarkUp/ is my path

Shane McCarron: http://jigedit.w3.org/smccarro/WWW/MarkUp/ is my path ←

15:13:27 <Steven> Well, I can see them under the above URI, and under jigteam.

Well, I can see them under the above URI, and under jigteam. ←

15:13:33 <ShaneM> I cannot access 2008 under that folder, nor does it show up in my CVS tree for that folder.

Shane McCarron: I cannot access 2008 under that folder, nor does it show up in my CVS tree for that folder. ←

15:13:34 <Steven> Not sure if I have a jigedit

Not sure if I have a jigedit ←

15:13:40 <Steven> maybe it's a CVS problem

maybe it's a CVS problem ←

15:13:45 <Steven> looking

looking ←

15:15:18 <Steven> And you're view on that space has no /2008/ ?

And your view on that space has no /2008/ ? ←

15:15:26 <Steven> s/you're/your/

15:15:26 <ShaneM> yes

Shane McCarron: yes ←

15:15:53 <Steven> This calls for super Sysreq

This calls for super Sysreq ←

15:16:22 <ShaneM> can you contact whomeever?  I wouldn't even know what to ask

Shane McCarron: can you contact whomeever? I wouldn't even know what to ask ←

15:18:01 <Steven> Doing it

Doing it ←

15:18:09 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes ←

15:18:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/13-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/13-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←

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