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SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 24 April 2012

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012AprJun/0044.html
Seen
Andy Seaborne, Birte Glimm, Carlos Buil Aranda, Gregory Williams, Matthew Perry, Olivier Corby, Sandro Hawke
Chair
Sandro Hawke
Scribe
Olivier Corby
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. approve minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-04-10 link
  2. for "with RDF 1.1" will link to 2009/sparql/using-with-rdf11 and mark it AT RISK. link
  3. Overview link to http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html for Test Suite, and we try to get that page looking better soon. link
  4. Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/Overview.xml as Last Call Working Draft, after making the changes agreed upon so far this meeting. link
Topics
14:00:13 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/04/24-sparql-irc

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14:00:15 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

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14:00:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

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14:00:17 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start now

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14:00:18 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:00:18 <trackbot> Date: 24 April 2012
14:01:10 <sandro> zakim, this is 77277

Sandro Hawke: zakim, this is 77277

14:01:10 <Zakim> ok, sandro; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

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14:01:15 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

14:01:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei, Sandro, ??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see kasei, Sandro, ??P9

14:01:30 <Zakim> + +33.4.92.38.aaaa

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14:01:37 <bglimm> Zakim, ??P9 is me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, ??P9 is me

14:01:43 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it

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14:01:44 <Olivier_> zakim, aaaa is me

Olivier Corby: zakim, aaaa is me

14:01:56 <Zakim> +Olivier_; got it

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14:02:05 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

14:02:06 <Zakim> +??P15

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15

14:02:09 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P15 is me

Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P15 is me

14:02:23 <Zakim> +MattPerry

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14:02:24 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

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14:02:26 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it

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14:03:17 <sandro> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012AprJun/0044.html
14:03:33 <sandro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012AprJun/0044.html

Sandro Hawke: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012AprJun/0044.html

14:03:42 <sandro> chair: sandro
14:03:49 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

14:03:49 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted

14:04:17 <kasei> it's somewhat up to date

Gregory Williams: it's somewhat up to date

14:04:49 <sandro> scribe: Olivier_

(Scribe set to Olivier Corby)

14:05:35 <Zakim> +??P26

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P26

14:05:41 <Olivier_> test suites

test suites

14:05:41 <AndyS> zakim, ?P26 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ?P26 is me

14:05:41 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS, I do not recognize a party named '?P26'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AndyS, I do not recognize a party named '?P26'

14:05:45 <Olivier_> comments

comments

14:05:46 <AndyS> zakim, ??P26 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P26 is me

14:05:46 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it

14:06:07 <sandro> Agenda+ publishing overview

Sandro Hawke: Agenda+ publishing overview

14:06:12 <sandro> agenda+ Comments

Sandro Hawke: agenda+ Comments

14:06:19 <sandro> Agenda+ Test Suite

Sandro Hawke: Agenda+ Test Suite

14:07:03 <kasei> dig up what?

Gregory Williams: dig up what?

14:07:26 <bglimm> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-04-10

Birte Glimm: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-04-10

14:07:52 <kasei> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-04-10

Gregory Williams: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-04-10

14:08:10 <sandro> proposed: approve minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-04-10

PROPOSED: approve minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-04-10

14:08:18 <kasei> +1

Gregory Williams: +1

14:08:22 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

14:08:24 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1

14:08:33 <sandro> resolved: approve minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-04-10

RESOLVED: approve minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-04-10

14:08:39 <sandro> zakim, take up agendum 1

Sandro Hawke: zakim, take up agendum 1

14:08:39 <Zakim> agendum 1. "publishing overview" taken up [from sandro]

1. publishing overview

14:09:17 <Olivier_> overview ok but some references

overview ok but some references

14:09:24 <sandro> sandro: I think we're good to go except for the references

Sandro Hawke: I think we're good to go except for the references [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:09:44 <kasei> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/Overview.xml

Gregory Williams: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/Overview.xml

14:10:33 <Olivier_> link to using rdf 1.1

link to using rdf 1.1

14:10:54 <sandro> 2009/sparql/using-with-rdf11

Sandro Hawke: 2009/sparql/using-with-rdf11

14:10:56 <Olivier_> link that we can redirect

link that we can redirect

14:11:05 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

14:11:05 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

14:11:58 <sandro> PROPOSAL: for "with RDF 1.1" will link to 2009/sparql/using-with-rdf1 and mark it AT RISK.

PROPOSED: for "with RDF 1.1" will link to 2009/sparql/using-with-rdf1 and mark it AT RISK.

14:12:18 <sandro> PROPOSAL: for "with RDF 1.1" will link to 2009/sparql/using-with-rdf11 and mark it AT RISK.

PROPOSED: for "with RDF 1.1" will link to 2009/sparql/using-with-rdf11 and mark it AT RISK.

14:12:25 <kasei> +1

Gregory Williams: +1

14:12:28 <MattPerry> +1

Matthew Perry: +1

14:12:30 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1

14:12:39 <sandro> RESOLVED: for "with RDF 1.1" will link to 2009/sparql/using-with-rdf11 and mark it AT RISK.

RESOLVED: for "with RDF 1.1" will link to 2009/sparql/using-with-rdf11 and mark it AT RISK.

14:12:45 <sandro> @@@Shall this document also link to the test suite?

Sandro Hawke: @@@Shall this document also link to the test suite?

14:13:16 <Olivier_> link to readme.html ?

link to readme.html ?

14:13:36 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html

Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html

14:13:57 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

14:13:57 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

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14:14:23 <Olivier_> change the title to test case or test suite

change the title to test case or test suite

14:15:00 <sandro> PROPOSED: Overview link to http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html for Test Suite, and we try to get that page looking better soon.

PROPOSED: Overview link to http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html for Test Suite, and we try to get that page looking better soon.

14:15:11 <kasei> +1 so long as we know the readme still needs work to reflect the current state of the test suite.

Gregory Williams: +1 so long as we know the readme still needs work to reflect the current state of the test suite.

14:15:11 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1

14:15:15 <Olivier_> +1

+1

14:15:19 <cbuilara> +1

Carlos Buil Aranda: +1

14:15:50 <sandro> RESOLVED: Overview link to http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html for Test Suite, and we try to get that page looking better soon.

RESOLVED: Overview link to http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html for Test Suite, and we try to get that page looking better soon.

14:16:24 <sandro> ACTION: kasei put a visible box near the top of http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html to highlight what's out of date and where else folks should look for now.

ACTION: kasei put a visible box near the top of http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html to highlight what's out of date and where else folks should look for now.

14:16:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-609 - Put a visible box near the top of http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html to highlight what's out of date and where else folks should look for now. [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-05-01].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-609 - Put a visible box near the top of http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html to highlight what's out of date and where else folks should look for now. [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-05-01].

14:17:05 <bglimm>  CSV: @@@needs to be checked with final versions of CSV/TSV doc.

Birte Glimm: CSV: @@@needs to be checked with final versions of CSV/TSV doc.

14:19:13 <sandro> noted we think CSV and TSV examples are okay.

Sandro Hawke: noted we think CSV and TSV examples are okay.

14:19:31 <sandro> andy: TSV uses Turtle/SPARQL terms, so it uses the question marks, quotes, etc.

Andy Seaborne: TSV uses Turtle/SPARQL terms, so it uses the question marks, quotes, etc. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:19:45 <sandro> andy: (unlike CSV)

Andy Seaborne: (unlike CSV) [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:20:07 <sandro> andy: we're not expecting CSV to go through a Turtle Parser, just a spreadsheet.

Andy Seaborne: we're not expecting CSV to go through a Turtle Parser, just a spreadsheet. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:21:24 <Olivier_> It was published in november

It was published in november

14:22:17 <sandro> sandro: confiming overview is Rec Track

Sandro Hawke: confiming overview is Rec Track [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:22:46 <Olivier_> @@@Need to declare references to non rec specs non-normative?

@@@Need to declare references to non rec specs non-normative?

14:23:26 <sandro> sandro: lets just remove

Sandro Hawke: lets just remove [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:23:26 <sandro> @@@Need to declare references to non rec specs non-normative?

Sandro Hawke: @@@Need to declare references to non rec specs non-normative?

14:23:26 <sandro>

Sandro Hawke:

14:23:46 <sandro> hearing agreement

Sandro Hawke: hearing agreement

14:24:42 <Olivier_>  Turtle: @@@This reference needs to be fixed, once RDF 1.1 publishes a new Turtle Rec.

Turtle: @@@This reference needs to be fixed, once RDF 1.1 publishes a new Turtle Rec.

14:26:06 <sandro> FIX- Paul Gearon, Invited Expert

Sandro Hawke: FIX- Paul Gearon, Invited Expert

14:26:06 <sandro> FIX- Birte Glimm, Oxford University Computing Laboratory

Sandro Hawke: FIX- Birte Glimm, Oxford University Computing Laboratory

14:26:06 <sandro> FIX- * cbuilara I no longer belong to UPM, I finished my phd and I moved

Sandro Hawke: FIX- * cbuilara I no longer belong to UPM, I finished my phd and I moved

14:26:37 <sandro> FIX- Turtle reference to TR/Turtle, and name it as Working Draft

Sandro Hawke: FIX- Turtle reference to TR/Turtle, and name it as Working Draft

14:27:07 <sandro> FIX- CVS History

Sandro Hawke: FIX- CVS History

14:27:40 <sandro> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/Overview.xml as Last Call Working Draft, after making the changes agreed upon so far this meeting.

PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/Overview.xml as Last Call Working Draft, after making the changes agreed upon so far this meeting.

14:27:44 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

14:27:54 <kasei> +1

Gregory Williams: +1

14:27:59 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

14:28:00 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1

14:28:02 <Olivier_> +1

+1

14:28:06 <cbuilara> +1

Carlos Buil Aranda: +1

14:28:06 <MattPerry> +1

Matthew Perry: +1

14:28:19 <sandro> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/Overview.xml as Last Call Working Draft, after making the changes agreed upon so far this meeting.

RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/Overview.xml as Last Call Working Draft, after making the changes agreed upon so far this meeting.

14:28:51 <sandro> ACTION: sandro make the discussed changes

ACTION: sandro make the discussed changes

14:28:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-610 - Make the discussed changes [on Sandro Hawke - due 2012-05-01].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-610 - Make the discussed changes [on Sandro Hawke - due 2012-05-01].

14:29:14 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

14:29:14 <Zakim> bglimm was not muted, bglimm

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm was not muted, bglimm

14:29:17 <sandro> action: birte to make sure Sandro made the changes correctly

ACTION: birte to make sure Sandro made the changes correctly

14:29:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-611 - Make sure Sandro made the changes correctly [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-05-01].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-611 - Make sure Sandro made the changes correctly [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-05-01].

14:30:40 <kasei> q+

Gregory Williams: q+

14:30:43 <sandro> Looking at -- " the SPARQL Query Results XML Format (please, particularly note that the SPARQL 1.1 WG has made some minor Errata to this specification),"  and noting there are no Errata listed.

Sandro Hawke: Looking at -- " the SPARQL Query Results XML Format (please, particularly note that the SPARQL 1.1 WG has made some minor Errata to this specification)," and noting there are no Errata listed.

14:30:51 <sandro> ack kasei

Sandro Hawke: ack kasei

14:31:12 <sandro> kasei: This started as my ACTION-504.  I made the changes but never committed them.

Gregory Williams: This started as my ACTION-504. I made the changes but never committed them. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:32:54 <sandro> action-503?

Sandro Hawke: ACTION-503?

14:32:54 <trackbot> ACTION-503 -- Axel Polleres to contaxt sandro on whether we're allowed to change xsl in place in the course of errata -- due 2011-08-02 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-503 -- Axel Polleres to contaxt sandro on whether we're allowed to change xsl in place in the course of errata -- due 2011-08-02 -- OPEN

14:32:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/503

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/503

14:34:03 <sandro> action-504

Sandro Hawke: ACTION-504

14:34:05 <sandro> action-504?

Sandro Hawke: ACTION-504?

14:34:05 <trackbot> ACTION-504 -- Gregory Williams to incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata -- due 2011-08-02 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-504 -- Gregory Williams to incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata -- due 2011-08-02 -- OPEN

14:34:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/504

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/504

14:37:21 <AndyS> My copy says:

Andy Seaborne: My copy says:

14:37:22 <AndyS> > -    <xsl:for-each select="//res:head/res:variable">

Andy Seaborne: > - <xsl:for-each select="//res:head/res:variable">

14:37:22 <AndyS> > +    <xsl:for-each select="/res:sparql/res:head/res:variable">

Andy Seaborne: > + <xsl:for-each select="/res:sparql/res:head/res:variable">

14:38:24 <Olivier_>  remove: @@@ this is a placeholder at the moment; note that also the version number for RDF 1.1 might need to be changed!

remove: @@@ this is a placeholder at the moment; note that also the version number for RDF 1.1 might need to be changed!

14:38:56 <sandro> Yes, Olivier_ that's part of 'fixing turtle'.

Sandro Hawke: Yes, Olivier_ that's part of 'fixing turtle'.

14:41:46 <sandro> sandro: Let's publsh the Errata Greg has now, labeled with 'PROPOSED' for now.

Sandro Hawke: Let's publsh the Errata Greg has now, labeled with 'PROPOSED' for now. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:42:09 <sandro> ACTION: kasei check in his version of XML Errata, with [PROPOSED] on each one

ACTION: kasei check in his version of XML Errata, with [PROPOSED] on each one

14:42:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-612 - Check in his version of XML Errata, with [PROPOSED] on each one [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-05-01].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-612 - Check in his version of XML Errata, with [PROPOSED] on each one [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-05-01].

14:44:25 <sandro> sandro: Let's keep Carlos' old affil since it was the W3C member

Sandro Hawke: Let's keep Carlos' old affil since it was the W3C member [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:44:46 <sandro> zakim, take up next agendum

Sandro Hawke: zakim, take up next agendum

14:44:46 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Comments" taken up [from sandro]

2. Comments

14:44:56 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

14:46:56 <sandro> AndyS:We can now respond go DRD-1, saying this is what Turtle and SPARQL are doing, it's a compromise.   I'll take that one.

Andy Seaborne: We can now respond go DRD-1, saying this is what Turtle and SPARQL are doing, it's a compromise. I'll take that one. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:47:09 <sandro> AndyS: other ppath ones.    Come back to BINDINGS.

Andy Seaborne: other ppath ones. Come back to BINDINGS. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:47:44 <sandro> DBeckett-4 ?

Sandro Hawke: DBeckett-4 ?

14:47:54 <sandro> kasei: I think the work is done, I'll draft a response.

Gregory Williams: I think the work is done, I'll draft a response. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:49:05 <sandro> DB-21 for Paul or Axel, who are not here

Sandro Hawke: DB-21 for Paul or Axel, who are not here

14:49:09 <sandro> DB-22 same.

Sandro Hawke: DB-22 same.

14:49:16 <sandro> SA-3 on bindings

Sandro Hawke: SA-3 on bindings

14:49:59 <sandro> WW-1 on path expressions.    Andy to draft response

Sandro Hawke: WW-1 on path expressions. Andy to draft response

14:50:40 <sandro> birte to take SA-3

Sandro Hawke: birte to take SA-3

14:53:02 <sandro> andy: In the WW-1 response I'd like to say a little on how there are choicepoints

Andy Seaborne: In the WW-1 response I'd like to say a little on how there are choicepoints [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:53:46 <sandro> subtopic: BINDINGS

2.1. BINDINGS

14:54:11 <sandro> andy: I'd propose we work through whether we can put bindings inside ANY group.    So it's more data.     So it's a syntax change.

Andy Seaborne: I'd propose we work through whether we can put bindings inside ANY group. So it's more data. So it's a syntax change. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:54:11 <Olivier_> bindings inside any group ?

bindings inside any group ?

14:54:41 <sandro> bglimm: It'll also change the algebra.   The processing order will be different

Birte Glimm: It'll also change the algebra. The processing order will be different [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:55:08 <AndyS> SELECT * { ?s ?p ?o BINDING(...) }

Andy Seaborne: SELECT * { ?s ?p ?o BINDING(...) }

14:55:12 <sandro> AndyS: But bindings are defined to be something you draw into what you're working on at the time.   A Single BIND operation which adds a column in can be argued to be a join.

Andy Seaborne: But bindings are defined to be something you draw into what you're working on at the time. A Single BIND operation which adds a column in can be argued to be a join. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:56:23 <sandro> AndyS: So, where we have FILTER we'd also allow BINDING.  And it means, Do th basic graph pattern, do the bind, join with any BINDING table.  Still JOIN semantics rather than SUBSTITUTION.  Which incidentally means you can write it as SUBSITUTION.  It ends up doing the same.  Most engines do something very similar.

Andy Seaborne: So, where we have FILTER we'd also allow BINDING. And it means, Do th basic graph pattern, do the bind, join with any BINDING table. Still JOIN semantics rather than SUBSTITUTION. Which incidentally means you can write it as SUBSITUTION. It ends up doing the same. Most engines do something very similar. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:56:43 <sandro> ... It generalized from binding at the end of the query to something you join at any point.

Sandro Hawke: ... It generalized from binding at the end of the query to something you join at any point.

14:56:56 <sandro> ... which will make Eric's heart sing, since he's been on about this for a while.  :-)

Sandro Hawke: ... which will make Eric's heart sing, since he's been on about this for a while. :-)

14:57:39 <sandro> ... Given we have 3 outstanding comments on this, we should at least draft this.   It's small spec changes, just moving a little of when you process it.

Sandro Hawke: ... Given we have 3 outstanding comments on this, we should at least draft this. It's small spec changes, just moving a little of when you process it.

14:58:02 <kasei> sounds good

Gregory Williams: sounds good

14:58:59 <sandro> sandro: I'm just worried about running out of Andy-time

Sandro Hawke: I'm just worried about running out of Andy-time [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:59:53 <sandro> AndyS: agreed, time is a concern

Andy Seaborne: agreed, time is a concern [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:00:04 <sandro> bglimm: Yes, but we have three comments, and this would address them.

Birte Glimm: Yes, but we have three comments, and this would address them. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:01:44 <sandro> sandro: Sounds like Andy should go ahead, as long as he's personally motivated.

Sandro Hawke: Sounds like Andy should go ahead, as long as he's personally motivated. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:01:54 <sandro> AndyS: I at least want to go down the initial stages.

Andy Seaborne: I at least want to go down the initial stages. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:02:09 <sandro> ADJOURN

Sandro Hawke: ADJOURN

15:02:14 <Zakim> -bglimm

Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm

15:02:17 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

15:02:18 <Zakim> -MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry

15:02:19 <MattPerry> bye

Matthew Perry: bye

15:02:21 <Zakim> -Olivier_

Zakim IRC Bot: -Olivier_

15:02:22 <Zakim> -AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS

15:02:29 <Zakim> -cbuilara

Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara

15:02:34 <Zakim> -kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei

15:02:37 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

15:02:39 <Zakim> Attendees were kasei, Sandro, +33.4.92.38.aaaa, bglimm, Olivier_, MattPerry, cbuilara, AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were kasei, Sandro, +33.4.92.38.aaaa, bglimm, Olivier_, MattPerry, cbuilara, AndyS



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