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13:59:05 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/10/18-sparql-irc
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13:59:33 <AndyS> rrsagent, this will be SPARQL
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13:59:33 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'this will be SPARQL', AndyS. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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13:59:47 <AndyS> trackbot, this will be SPARQL
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13:59:58 <AndyS> zakim, this will be SPARQL
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13:59:58 <Zakim> ok, AndyS; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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14:00:03 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
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14:00:08 <Zakim> +kasei
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14:00:10 <Zakim> +??P22
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14:00:15 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P22 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P22 is me ←
14:00:15 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
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14:00:36 <Zakim> +Olivier
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14:00:37 <Zakim> +??P30
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14:00:40 <Zakim> +bglimm
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14:00:41 <AndyS> zakim, ??P30 is me
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14:00:42 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
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14:00:52 <Zakim> +MattPerry
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14:00:54 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:00:54 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
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14:01:10 <AndyS> trackbot, start meeting
Andy Seaborne: trackbot, start meeting ←
14:01:12 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:01:14 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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14:01:14 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start now
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14:01:15 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:01:15 <trackbot> Date: 18 October 2011
14:01:21 <AndyS> rrsagent, make logs public
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14:02:23 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
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14:02:31 <Zakim> I notice SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has restarted
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14:02:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see cbuilara, kasei, Olivier, AndyS, bglimm (muted), MattPerry, +49.897.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cbuilara, kasei, Olivier, AndyS, bglimm (muted), MattPerry, +49.897.aaaa ←
14:02:57 <AndyS> who is +49? Axel?
Andy Seaborne: who is +49? Axel? ←
14:03:09 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, aaaa is me
Axel Polleres: Zakim, aaaa is me ←
14:03:20 <Zakim> +??P1
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14:03:28 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres; got it
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14:03:28 <AndyS> zakim, go faster please
Andy Seaborne: zakim, go faster please ←
14:03:28 <swh> Zakim, ??P1 is me
Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P1 is me ←
14:03:48 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-10-18
14:03:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'go faster', AndyS
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14:03:58 <Zakim> +swh; got it
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14:04:01 <chimezie> Zakim, passcode?
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, passcode? ←
14:04:06 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), chimezie ←
14:04:09 <AndyS> I can scribe until Sandro gets here
Andy Seaborne: I can scribe until Sandro gets here ←
14:04:19 <AndyS> scribenick: AndyS
(Scribe set to Andy Seaborne)
14:04:30 <AndyS> Topic: Summary
14:04:44 <AndyS> Axel: review schedule and (re)charter
Axel Polleres: review schedule and (re)charter ←
14:05:05 <AndyS> ... seeking opinions on how to proceed
... seeking opinions on how to proceed ←
14:05:11 <AndyS> Topic: admin
14:05:11 <AndyS> Regrets: Paul Gearon, Alex Passant
Scribe problem: the name 'Paul Gearon' does not match any of the 64 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Ahmed Ezzat Alberto Labarga Alexandre Passant Andrea Westerinen Andrei Lopatenko Andy Seaborne Axel Polleres Bijan Parsia Birte Glimm Bryan Thompson Carlos Buil Aranda Chimezie Ogbuji Cui Tao Daniel Schutzer Dave Beckett David Charboneau David Newman Davide Palmisano Dhanapalan Kulandai Vadivel Dirk Colaert Dirk-Willem van Gulik Edward Thomas Elias Torres Enrico Franconi Eric Prud'hommeaux Frank Careccia Fred Zemke Gregory Williams Hiroyuki Sato Iker Huerga Ivan Mikhailov Jacek Kopecký Jari Vänttinen Jean-François Baget Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeen Broekstra Jeff Pollock John Clark Jos De Roo Kendall Clark Kevin Wilkinson Lee Feigenbaum Matthew Perry Michael Smith Michele Minno Nicholas Humfrey Nico Michaelis Nophadol Jekjantuk Olivier Corby Orri Erling Paula Gearon Prateek Jain Rachel Yager Roland Schwaenzl Sandro Hawke Sergio Tessaris Simon Johnston Souripriya Das Steve Harris Sven Groppe Timo Westkämper Tommi Koivula Umberto Straccia Yoshio Fukushige
14:05:19 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-10-04
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-10-04 ←
14:05:28 <AndyS> Look good to me.
Look good to me. ←
14:05:42 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-10-04
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-10-04 ←
14:06:01 <AndyS> Next telecon - ISWC overlap.
Next telecon - ISWC overlap. ←
14:06:15 <LeeF> I'm not at ISWC & am available next week
Lee Feigenbaum: I'm not at ISWC & am available next week ←
14:06:50 <MattPerry> I will be available
Matthew Perry: I will be available ←
14:06:53 <cbuilara> I will be available
Carlos Buil Aranda: I will be available ←
14:07:04 <bglimm> depends on internet availablility and schedule of ISWC
Birte Glimm: depends on internet availablility and schedule of ISWC ←
14:07:09 <AndyS> Axel: next meeting in one week
Axel Polleres: next meeting in one week ←
14:07:29 <AndyS> (someone pls scribe)
(someone pls scribe) ←
14:07:41 <AxelPolleres> topic: RDF Liaison
14:07:44 <Zakim> +Chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: +Chimezie ←
14:07:51 <AxelPolleres> andyS: f2f lastweek
Andy Seaborne: f2f lastweek [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:07:56 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
14:07:56 <Zakim> Chimezie should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie should now be muted ←
14:08:26 <AxelPolleres> ... resolved plain literals issue, simple literals will be XSD strings, tagged literals will have a dedicated new datatype
Axel Polleres: ... resolved plain literals issue, simple literals will be XSD strings, tagged literals will have a dedicated new datatype ←
14:09:02 <AxelPolleres> ... discussion about named graphs. there is no desire to unify the different uses but more discussion ongoing.
Axel Polleres: ... discussion about named graphs. there is no desire to unify the different uses but more discussion ongoing. ←
14:09:34 <AxelPolleres> ... last item is about lists and sequences. whether to deprecate them or not.
Axel Polleres: ... last item is about lists and sequences. whether to deprecate them or not. ←
14:10:04 <Zakim> +Lee_Feigenbaum
Zakim IRC Bot: +Lee_Feigenbaum ←
14:11:16 <AxelPolleres> ... concern about usage out there.
Axel Polleres: ... concern about usage out there. ←
14:13:02 <AxelPolleres> ... RDF plans to push this to (a future?) SPARQL WG.
Axel Polleres: ... RDF plans to push this to (a future?) SPARQL WG. ←
14:13:13 <AndyS> Topic:Publications
14:13:43 <AndyS> subtopic: Federated query
14:13:56 <swh> lots of noise
Steve Harris: lots of noise ←
14:14:01 <swh> Zakim, who's speaking
Steve Harris: Zakim, who's speaking ←
14:14:01 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's speaking', swh
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who's speaking', swh ←
14:14:05 <swh> Zakim, who's speaking?
Steve Harris: Zakim, who's speaking? ←
14:14:08 <chimezie> getting noise
Chimezie Ogbuji: getting noise ←
14:14:16 <Zakim> swh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: cbuilara (15%), AndyS (21%)
Zakim IRC Bot: swh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: cbuilara (15%), AndyS (21%) ←
14:14:50 <AndyS> Axel: status was changes in progress , Greg to review
Axel Polleres: status was changes in progress , Greg to review ←
14:14:53 <kasei> "Note that there are no evaluation semantics in the current document for the SPARQL pattern SERVICE VAR. Therefore, in the following table we present the intuitive solutions for this query with the data above:"
Gregory Williams: "Note that there are no evaluation semantics in the current document for the SPARQL pattern SERVICE VAR. Therefore, in the following table we present the intuitive solutions for this query with the data above:" ←
14:15:32 <AndyS> kasei: can accept what we have now (in the spirit of progressing publication)
Gregory Williams: can accept what we have now (in the spirit of progressing publication) ←
14:15:53 <kasei> q+
Gregory Williams: q+ ←
14:15:57 <AndyS> Carlos: doc just suggests possible answers for SERVICE ?srv
Carlos Buil Aranda: doc just suggests possible answers for SERVICE ?srv ←
14:16:17 <AndyS> ... we do not give it normative semantics
... we do not give it normative semantics ←
14:16:50 <AndyS> kasei: suggest moving to beginning of section.
Gregory Williams: suggest moving to beginning of section. ←
14:17:04 <AndyS> ... otherwise current wording is acceptable
... otherwise current wording is acceptable ←
14:17:11 <AndyS> carlos: OK
Carlos Buil Aranda: OK ←
14:17:29 <AndyS> Axel: ready for LC? or more reviews?
Axel Polleres: ready for LC? or more reviews? ←
14:18:01 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-federated-query/
PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-federated-query/ ←
14:18:25 <AxelPolleres> ... modulo moving the said sentence to the beginning of section.
Axel Polleres: ... modulo moving the said sentence to the beginning of section. ←
14:18:50 <AndyS> +1 to pubilsh fed as LC
+1 to pubilsh fed as LC ←
14:18:58 <LeeF> If kasei is +1, then so am I
Lee Feigenbaum: If kasei is +1, then so am I ←
14:19:02 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:19:11 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:19:16 <LeeF> +1
Lee Feigenbaum: +1 ←
14:19:18 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
14:19:19 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:19:19 <AndyS> +1 ASF
+1 ASF ←
14:19:19 <bglimm> 0 - Ulm (I haven't read the document)
Birte Glimm: 0 - Ulm (I haven't read the document) ←
14:19:19 <Olivier> +1
Olivier Corby: +1 ←
14:19:21 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:19:56 <AndyS> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-federated-query/ modulo moving the said sentence to the beginning of section. No Objections.
RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-federated-query/ modulo moving the said sentence to the beginning of section. No Objections. ←
14:20:39 <AndyS> Axel: Carlos, please pub-smith the doc.
Axel Polleres: Carlos, please pub-smith the doc. ←
14:20:54 <AndyS> ... we may publish in a group
... we may publish in a group ←
14:21:01 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: carlos to check pubrules for fed query.
ACTION: carlos to check pubrules for fed query. ←
14:21:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-542 - Check pubrules for fed query. [on Carlos Buil Aranda - due 2011-10-25].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-542 - Check pubrules for fed query. [on Carlos Buil Aranda - due 2011-10-25]. ←
14:21:02 <AndyS> ... of docs
... of docs ←
14:21:13 <AndyS> subtopic: overview doc
14:21:20 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview ←
14:22:01 <AndyS> Axel: section ordering still "as is"
Axel Polleres: section ordering still "as is" ←
14:22:25 <AndyS> AndyS: No time to review this FPWD
Andy Seaborne: No time to review this FPWD ←
14:22:32 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/Overview.xml as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-overview/
PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/Overview.xml as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-overview/ ←
14:22:50 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:22:51 <AndyS> +1 ASF
+1 ASF ←
14:22:52 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:22:55 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:22:55 <Olivier> +1
Olivier Corby: +1 ←
14:22:56 <bglimm> +1 Ulm
Birte Glimm: +1 Ulm ←
14:23:02 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:23:03 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
14:23:06 <LeeF> aye
Lee Feigenbaum: aye ←
14:23:32 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/Overview.xml as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-overview/ .no objections, no abstentions.
RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/Overview.xml as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-overview/ .no objections, no abstentions. ←
14:23:44 <AndyS> subtopic: Protocol doc
14:24:49 <AndyS> LeeF: Not quite ready yet. Some progress (kasei, LeeF)
Lee Feigenbaum: Not quite ready yet. Some progress (kasei, LeeF) ←
14:25:06 <AndyS> Axel: Timescale? Assign reviewers next week?
Axel Polleres: Timescale? Assign reviewers next week? ←
14:25:25 <AndyS> LeeF: can try, can't guarantee
Lee Feigenbaum: can try, can't guarantee ←
14:25:36 <Zakim> +??P10
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10 ←
14:25:46 <Zakim> -cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara ←
14:25:46 <NickH> Zakim, ??P10 is me
Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, ??P10 is me ←
14:25:48 <Zakim> +NickH; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +NickH; got it ←
14:26:05 <AndyS> topic: Post LC
14:26:06 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall ←
14:26:10 <NickH> Zakim, mute me
Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, mute me ←
14:26:10 <Zakim> NickH should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: NickH should now be muted ←
14:26:26 <Zakim> +??P11
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11 ←
14:26:30 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P11 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P11 is me ←
14:26:30 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it ←
14:26:39 <AndyS> subtopic: Query
14:28:09 <AxelPolleres> andy: these are things that need to be done... http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Query
Andy Seaborne: these are things that need to be done... http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Query [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:28:18 <AxelPolleres> main things are BIND and function changes.
Axel Polleres: main things are BIND and function changes. ←
14:28:49 <AxelPolleres> ... also the big red boxes.
Axel Polleres: ... also the big red boxes. ←
14:28:55 <AxelPolleres> ... needs 2nd last call
Axel Polleres: ... needs 2nd last call ←
14:29:26 <AxelPolleres> axel: timeframe to 2nd LC?
Axel Polleres: timeframe to 2nd LC? [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:30:14 <AxelPolleres> ... aim at publication end of Nov?
Axel Polleres: ... aim at publication end of Nov? ←
14:31:05 <AxelPolleres> steve: plan to get any of my changes done by end of this month
Steve Harris: plan to get any of my changes done by end of this month [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:31:17 <AxelPolleres> andy: won't have time before Nov.
Andy Seaborne: won't have time before Nov. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:31:37 <AxelPolleres> andy: main thing is clearing the comments list.
Andy Seaborne: main thing is clearing the comments list. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:33:59 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments ←
14:35:43 <LeeF> I'll take care of the rest of that one
Lee Feigenbaum: I'll take care of the rest of that one ←
14:35:51 <LeeF> from Andy
Lee Feigenbaum: from Andy ←
14:35:55 <LeeF> yes, I"m now the owner
Lee Feigenbaum: yes, I"m now the owner ←
14:37:05 <AndyS> reuse of prefixes (DB-9)
reuse of prefixes (DB-9) ←
14:37:13 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Sep/0004.html
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Sep/0004.html ←
14:38:09 <AndyS> Axel: What about Turtle?
Axel Polleres: What about Turtle? ←
14:38:22 <AndyS> AndyS: Turtle does not allow this.
Andy Seaborne: Turtle does not allow this. ←
14:39:09 <AndyS> ... it is now late in our process
... it is now late in our process ←
14:39:20 <AndyS> Axel: Will draft response to DB
Axel Polleres: Will draft response to DB ←
14:39:52 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to draft an answer to DB-9, stating that it is too late in the process for this change.
ACTION: Axel to draft an answer to DB-9, stating that it is too late in the process for this change. ←
14:39:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-543 - Draft an answer to DB-9, stating that it is too late in the process for this change. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-10-25].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-543 - Draft an answer to DB-9, stating that it is too late in the process for this change. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-10-25]. ←
14:40:25 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Sep/0000.html
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Sep/0000.html ←
14:40:34 <AxelPolleres> steve: think I drafted a response.
Steve Harris: think I drafted a response. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:41:32 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:41:32 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
14:42:06 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:42:06 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
14:42:06 <AxelPolleres> q?
Axel Polleres: q? ←
14:42:15 <kasei> q-
Gregory Williams: q- ←
14:42:20 <AndyS> subtopic: Update
14:42:58 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Update
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Update ←
14:44:15 <AndyS> DB-12
DB-12 ←
14:44:18 <AxelPolleres> DB-12 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Sep/0008.html
Axel Polleres: DB-12 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Sep/0008.html ←
14:44:49 <AxelPolleres> [[ If a graph is created implicitly by an update operation, then the behavior of the Graph Store MUST be functionally equivalent to its behavior if the graph had been created explicitly by a CREATE operation. ]]
Axel Polleres: [[ If a graph is created implicitly by an update operation, then the behavior of the Graph Store MUST be functionally equivalent to its behavior if the graph had been created explicitly by a CREATE operation. ]] ←
14:44:50 <AndyS> Axel: David thinks we should add text about "CREATE GRAPH"
Axel Polleres: David thinks we should add text about "CREATE GRAPH" ←
14:45:46 <AndyS> ... problem is that doc says a graph store may remove empty graphs
... problem is that doc says a graph store may remove empty graphs ←
14:46:05 <AndyS> ... but not that it always does or does not
... but not that it always does or does not ←
14:46:16 <AndyS> ... so some may be dropped, and some may
... so some may be dropped, and some may ←
14:46:19 <AndyS> q+
q+ ←
14:47:48 <AndyS> q-
q- ←
14:48:11 <AndyS> AndyS: I think doc covers this via the formal semantics.
Andy Seaborne: I think doc covers this via the formal semantics. ←
14:49:37 <AndyS> Axel: What should we proscribe?
Axel Polleres: What should we proscribe? ←
14:50:02 <AndyS> ... make a distinction between graph and non-graph aware graph stores?
... make a distinction between graph and non-graph aware graph stores? ←
14:51:44 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-update/#def_clearOperation
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-update/#def_clearOperation ←
14:54:12 <chimezie> does that effect operations involving data?
Chimezie Ogbuji: does that effect operations involving data? ←
14:55:42 <AndyS> Axel: What should I as editor do?
Axel Polleres: What should I as editor do? ←
14:55:56 <chimezie> Zakim unmute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim unmute me ←
14:56:44 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
14:56:44 <Zakim> Chimezie was already muted, chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie was already muted, chimezie ←
14:57:01 <AxelPolleres> Axel: will try to draft another response along the lines that yes in this case, that's a bug, but, since the spec doesn't prescribe when graphs are removed and when not, the suggested text wouldn't change anything.
Axel Polleres: will try to draft another response along the lines that yes in this case, that's a bug, but, since the spec doesn't prescribe when graphs are removed and when not, the suggested text wouldn't change anything. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:57:21 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:57:21 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
14:58:24 <AndyS> bglimm: outstanding comment (only one reply)
Birte Glimm: outstanding comment (only one reply) ←
14:58:34 <AxelPolleres> please reply/discuss by next time the open comment Birte is dealing with on D-entailment...
Axel Polleres: please reply/discuss by next time the open comment Birte is dealing with on D-entailment... ←
14:58:52 <bglimm> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011OctDec/0033.html
Birte Glimm: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011OctDec/0033.html ←
14:59:47 <Zakim> -Chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: -Chimezie ←
14:59:49 <AndyS> trackbot, end meeting
trackbot, end meeting ←
14:59:49 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
14:59:49 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been kasei, cbuilara, Olivier, bglimm, AndyS, MattPerry, +49.897.aaaa, AxelPolleres, swh, Chimezie, Lee_Feigenbaum, NickH
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been kasei, cbuilara, Olivier, bglimm, AndyS, MattPerry, +49.897.aaaa, AxelPolleres, swh, Chimezie, Lee_Feigenbaum, NickH ←
14:59:50 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
14:59:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/18-sparql-minutes.html trackbot
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/18-sparql-minutes.html trackbot ←
14:59:51 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←
14:59:51 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/18-sparql-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/18-sparql-actions.rdf : ←
14:59:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: carlos to check pubrules for fed query. [1]
ACTION: carlos to check pubrules for fed query. [1] ←
14:59:51 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/18-sparql-irc#T14-21-01
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/18-sparql-irc#T14-21-01 ←
14:59:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Axel to draft an answer to DB-9, stating that it is too late in the process for this change. [2]
ACTION: Axel to draft an answer to DB-9, stating that it is too late in the process for this change. [2] ←
14:59:51 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/18-sparql-irc#T14-39-52
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/18-sparql-irc#T14-39-52 ←
14:59:52 <Zakim> -swh
Zakim IRC Bot: -swh ←
14:59:52 <Zakim> -bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm ←
14:59:52 <Zakim> -cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara ←
14:59:53 <AxelPolleres> adjourned
Axel Polleres: adjourned ←
14:59:54 <Zakim> -NickH
Zakim IRC Bot: -NickH ←
14:59:55 <Zakim> -Olivier
Zakim IRC Bot: -Olivier ←
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