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RDF-in-XHTML TF

Minutes of 19 March 2007

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Mar/0056.html
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Unknown EliasT, Unknown Mark, Unknown Ralph, Unknown RalphS, Unknown Simone, Unknown Steven, Unknown wing
Regrets
Unknown Ben, Unknown Michael
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Unknown Ralph
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Unknown Elias, Unknown EliasT, Unknown eliast
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12:44:15 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-irc

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12:44:23 <RalphS> Meeting: RDF-in-XHTML TF
12:44:29 <RalphS> Regrets: Ben, Michael

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12:44:41 <RalphS> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Mar/0056.html
12:45:07 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2007-03-12

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Unknown RalphS: -> http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2007-03-12

12:45:13 <RalphS> rrsagent, please make record public

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Unknown RalphS: rrsagent, please make record public

12:53:19 <Simone> hi Ralph, thanks. how are You?

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Unknown Simone: hi Ralph, thanks. how are You?

12:58:31 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has now started

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12:58:38 <Zakim> +Ralph

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ralph

13:01:31 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]

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13:01:38 <wing> zakim, IBMCambridge is me

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Unknown wing: zakim, IBMCambridge is me

13:01:38 <Zakim> +wing; got it

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13:02:10 <Zakim> +Elias_Torres

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13:02:18 <Zakim> +??P1

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13:02:22 <EliasT> Zakim, Elias_Torres is me

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, Elias_Torres is me

13:02:22 <Zakim> +EliasT; got it

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13:02:31 <RalphS> zakim, ??p1 is Simone

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Unknown RalphS: zakim, ??p1 is Simone

13:02:31 <Zakim> +Simone; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Simone; got it

13:03:51 <RalphS> Chair: Ralph

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13:03:53 <RalphS> Scribe: Elias

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13:03:59 <EliasT> Scribe: EliasT

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13:03:59 <RalphS> scribenick: eliast

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13:04:54 <RalphS> agenda+ Bulk Action Item Review

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Unknown RalphS: agenda+ Bulk Action Item Review

13:05:05 <RalphS> Topic: Convene, next meeting

1. Convene, next meeting

13:05:47 <Zakim> +??P4

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13:05:57 <RalphS> zakim, ??p4 is Mark

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Unknown RalphS: zakim, ??p4 is Mark

13:05:57 <Zakim> +Mark; got it

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13:09:06 <EliasT> Zakim, mute me

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, mute me

13:09:06 <Zakim> EliasT should now be muted

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13:09:28 <EliasT> Zakim, unmute me

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, unmute me

13:09:28 <Zakim> EliasT should no longer be muted

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13:10:17 <RalphS> Elias: what are the mails from Shane concerning?

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Unknown Elias: what are the mails from Shane concerning? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:10:30 <RalphS> Mark: Shane is updating the XHTML1.1 module draft

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Unknown Mark: Shane is updating the XHTML1.1 module draft [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:10:52 <RalphS> ... the XHTML 1.1 modules are there in DTD form but not yet the XML Schema modules

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Unknown RalphS: ... the XHTML 1.1 modules are there in DTD form but not yet the XML Schema modules

13:11:06 <RalphS> ... so DTD validation is now possible

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Unknown RalphS: ... so DTD validation is now possible

13:11:41 <RalphS> ... I am working on the XML Schema versions

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Unknown RalphS: ... I am working on the XML Schema versions

13:12:17 <EliasT> Topic: Test Case

2. Test Case

13:12:26 <RalphS> next meeting: 26 March

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Unknown RalphS: next meeting: 26 March

13:12:33 <RalphS> zakim, move to next agendum

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Unknown RalphS: zakim, move to next agendum

13:12:33 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Bulk Action Item Review" taken up [from RalphS]

3. Bulk Action Item Review

13:13:10 <EliasT> ACTION: Ben to get back in touch with Ian about eRDF/RDFa

ACTION: Ben to get back in touch with Ian about eRDF/RDFa

13:13:13 <EliasT> CONTINUES

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Unknown EliasT: CONTINUES

13:13:28 <EliasT> Zakim, action -1

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, action -1

13:13:28 <Zakim> I don't understand 'action -1', EliasT

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'action -1', EliasT

13:13:38 <EliasT> action -1

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Unknown EliasT: action -1

13:13:47 <EliasT> ACTION: Ben to get back in touch with Ian about eRDF/RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]

ACTION: Ben to get back in touch with Ian about eRDF/RDFa [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08]

13:13:57 <EliasT> [CONTINUES]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES]

13:14:03 <EliasT> ACTION: Ben to include agenda item for approval of existing tests [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action02]

ACTION: Ben to include agenda item for approval of existing tests [recorded in ACTION-02]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-02]

13:14:07 <EliasT> [CONTINUES]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES]

13:14:15 <EliasT> ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]

ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [recorded in ACTION-17]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-17]

13:14:17 <EliasT> [CONTINUES]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES]

13:14:23 <EliasT> ACTION: Michael to put together a table with RDFa / XHTML1.1/2 / HTML [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action18]

ACTION: Michael to put together a table with RDFa / XHTML1.1/2 / HTML [recorded in ACTION-18]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-18]

13:14:25 <EliasT> [DONE]

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Unknown EliasT: [DONE]

13:14:25 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFaInHTML Feature comparison table

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Unknown RalphS: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFaInHTML Feature comparison table

13:14:34 <EliasT> ACTION: Ralph to update archive header page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action04]

ACTION: Ralph to update archive header page [recorded in ACTION-04]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-04]

13:14:43 <EliasT> [DONE]

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Unknown EliasT: [DONE]

13:14:55 <RalphS> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/ TF Mail Archive

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Unknown RalphS: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/ TF Mail Archive

13:15:24 <EliasT> ACTION: Simone to update FAQ wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]

ACTION: Simone to update FAQ wiki [recorded in ACTION-14]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-14]

13:15:56 <EliasT> [DONE]

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Unknown EliasT: [DONE]

13:16:00 <RalphS> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Mar/0076.html "Wiki Updated" [SImone]

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Unknown RalphS: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Mar/0076.html "Wiki Updated" [SImone]

13:16:29 <EliasT> Wing to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0008.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]

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Unknown EliasT: Wing to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0008.html [recorded in ACTION-16]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-16]

13:16:37 <EliasT> ACTION: Wing to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0008.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]

ACTION: Wing to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0008.html [recorded in ACTION-16]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-16]

13:16:41 <EliasT> [DONE]

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Unknown EliasT: [DONE]

13:17:01 <RalphS> Wing: there is a test

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Unknown Wing: there is a test [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:17:38 <RalphS> ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]

ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11]

13:17:43 <RalphS> Wing: just need to decide a name

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Unknown Wing: just need to decide a name [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:17:47 <RalphS> Elias: DAWG defined one

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Unknown Elias: DAWG defined one [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:17:56 <EliasT> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES] ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11]

13:18:05 <EliasT> [CONTINUES]  ACTION: Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not supported by RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES] ACTION: Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not supported by RDFa [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#ACTION-01]

13:18:16 <EliasT> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES] ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in ACTION-04]">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-04]

13:18:39 <EliasT> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES] ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in ACTION-10]">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-10]

13:18:56 <RalphS> Elias: I'm working with the guy who wrote the FireFox operator extension that parses microformats

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Unknown Elias: I'm working with the guy who wrote the FireFox operator extension that parses microformats [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:19:09 <RalphS> ... I wrote a new javascript RDFa parser

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Unknown RalphS: ... I wrote a new javascript RDFa parser

13:19:17 <RalphS> ... might be able to get this into operator

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Unknown RalphS: ... might be able to get this into operator

13:19:57 <EliasT> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-08]

13:20:05 <EliasT> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark produce RDFa XHTML 1.1 module and spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action06]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark produce RDFa XHTML 1.1 module and spec [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-06]

13:20:40 <Mark> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2007/ED-xhtml-rdfa-20070317/

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Unknown Mark: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2007/ED-xhtml-rdfa-20070317/

13:20:46 <Mark> That's the spec.

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Unknown Mark: That's the spec.

13:21:44 <EliasT> [DONE] Mark is done with the spec part.

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Unknown EliasT: [DONE] Mark is done with the spec part.

13:22:07 <EliasT> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark produce RDFa XHTML 1.1 module using XML Schema [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action06]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark produce RDFa XHTML 1.1 module using XML Schema [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-06]

13:22:24 <RalphS> agenda+ RDFa module spec

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Unknown RalphS: agenda+ RDFa module spec

13:24:23 <EliasT> [DONE] ACTION: Mark to put M12N schema up somewhere, and tell us where [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/29-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]

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Unknown EliasT: [DONE] ACTION: Mark to put M12N schema up somewhere, and tell us where [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/29-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-01]

13:24:45 <EliasT> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark to put M12N schema up somewhere, and tell us where [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/29-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark to put M12N schema up somewhere, and tell us where [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/29-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-01]

13:25:06 <EliasT> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Michael continue work on the FAQ template that Elias started [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES] ACTION: Michael continue work on the FAQ template that Elias started [recorded in ACTION-10]">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-10]

13:25:47 <EliasT> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Michael to prepare RDF/XML - RDFa comparison wiki page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/12-htmltf-minutes.html#action09]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES] ACTION: Michael to prepare RDF/XML - RDFa comparison wiki page [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/12-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-09]

13:25:56 <EliasT> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]

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Unknown EliasT: [CONTINUES] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc. [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-01]

13:25:57 <RalphS> zakim, move to next agendum

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Unknown RalphS: zakim, move to next agendum

13:25:57 <Zakim> agendum 2. "RDFa module spec" taken up [from RalphS]

4. RDFa module spec

13:27:12 <Mark> http://www.formsplayer.com/node/213

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Unknown Mark: http://www.formsplayer.com/node/213

13:27:27 <EliasT> [DONE] ACTION: Mark to put M12N schema up somewhere, and tell us where [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/29-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]

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Unknown EliasT: [DONE] ACTION: Mark to put M12N schema up somewhere, and tell us where [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/29-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-01]

13:27:45 <RalphS> zakim, take up agendum 2

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Unknown RalphS: zakim, take up agendum 2

13:27:45 <Zakim> agendum 2. "RDFa module spec" taken up [from RalphS]

5. RDFa module spec

13:28:21 <EliasT> MarkB: Shane did a little bit more than we asked

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Unknown MarkB: Shane did a little bit more than we asked [ Scribe Assist by Unknown EliasT ]

13:29:00 <EliasT> ... for example he has restricted multiple values in rel attributes

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Unknown EliasT: ... for example he has restricted multiple values in rel attributes

13:29:16 <EliasT> ... we should discuss this on both lists

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Unknown EliasT: ... we should discuss this on both lists

13:29:54 <EliasT> q+

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Unknown EliasT: q+

13:30:08 <EliasT> Zakim, ack RalphS

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, ack RalphS

13:30:08 <Zakim> I see EliasT on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see EliasT on the speaker queue

13:30:55 <EliasT> RalphS: It would be more convenient if technical discussions on RDFa module be done on RDFa mailing list

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Unknown RalphS: It would be more convenient if technical discussions on RDFa module be done on RDFa mailing list [ Scribe Assist by Unknown EliasT ]

13:31:33 <EliasT> Zakim, mute me

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, mute me

13:31:33 <Zakim> EliasT should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: EliasT should now be muted

13:32:12 <EliasT> RalphS: We still want a stand-alone RDFa specification, maybe extracting Shane's document would be a fine thing to do

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Unknown RalphS: We still want a stand-alone RDFa specification, maybe extracting Shane's document would be a fine thing to do [ Scribe Assist by Unknown EliasT ]

13:34:28 <EliasT> Zakim, unmute me

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, unmute me

13:34:28 <Zakim> EliasT should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: EliasT should no longer be muted

13:34:38 <EliasT> ACTION: MarkB to ask Shane to make his document public

ACTION: MarkB to ask Shane to make his document public

13:34:59 <RalphS> Elias: does this editors' draft refer to XHTML 1 or XHTML 2?

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Unknown Elias: does this editors' draft refer to XHTML 1 or XHTML 2? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:35:09 <RalphS> Mark: it's all about XHTML Modularization 1.1

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Unknown Mark: it's all about XHTML Modularization 1.1 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:35:26 <RalphS> ... this RDFa module conforms to the approach of XHTML Modularization 1.1

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Unknown RalphS: ... this RDFa module conforms to the approach of XHTML Modularization 1.1

13:35:36 <RalphS> ... it may also conform to XHTML 2

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Unknown RalphS: ... it may also conform to XHTML 2

13:36:20 <RalphS> ... the intention for the XHTML 2 spec is to have it cite the XHTML 1.2 modules that are part of XHTML 2

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Unknown RalphS: ... the intention for the XHTML 2 spec is to have it cite the XHTML 1.2 modules that are part of XHTML 2

13:38:30 <RalphS> agenda+ XMLliteral

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Unknown RalphS: agenda+ XMLliteral

13:39:15 <RalphS> zakim, move to next agendum

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Unknown RalphS: zakim, move to next agendum

13:39:15 <Zakim> agendum 3. "XMLliteral" taken up [from RalphS]

6. XMLliteral

13:41:52 <RalphS> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Feb/0003 Mark's 4 Feb summary of XMLLiteral vs. plain literal

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Unknown RalphS: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Feb/0003 Mark's 4 Feb summary of XMLLiteral vs. plain literal

13:42:38 <EliasT> MarkB: The starting point of RDFa has always been the RDFa author. How do we take the things that RDFa authors markup and generate triples.

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Unknown MarkB: The starting point of RDFa has always been the RDFa author. How do we take the things that RDFa authors markup and generate triples. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown EliasT ]

13:43:06 <EliasT> ... but I think the discussion has been on the reverse.. how do I as an RDF author encode this in XHTML.

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Unknown EliasT: ... but I think the discussion has been on the reverse.. how do I as an RDF author encode this in XHTML.

13:43:43 <EliasT> Zakim, q+ should we define the RDFa author?

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, q+ should we define the RDFa author?

13:43:43 <Zakim> EliasT, you typed too many words without commas; I suspect you forgot to start with 'to ...'

Zakim IRC Bot: EliasT, you typed too many words without commas; I suspect you forgot to start with 'to ...'

13:43:47 <EliasT> Zakim, q+ should we define the RDFa author

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, q+ should we define the RDFa author

13:43:47 <Zakim> EliasT, you typed too many words without commas; I suspect you forgot to start with 'to ...'

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13:43:56 <EliasT> Zakim, q+, should we define the RDFa author

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, q+, should we define the RDFa author

13:43:56 <Zakim> EliasT, you typed too many words without commas; I suspect you forgot to start with 'to ...'

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13:47:41 <EliasT> RalphS: I wanted to make sure we found the places in the document about rdf:XMLLiteral

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Unknown RalphS: I wanted to make sure we found the places in the document about rdf:XMLLiteral [ Scribe Assist by Unknown EliasT ]

13:47:48 <EliasT> ... http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/syntax/ in 5.1.1.1

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Unknown EliasT: ... http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/syntax/ in 5.1.1.1

13:49:00 <EliasT> MarkB: We have two methods: if you use @content that's a plain literal, if no datatype specified rdf:XMLLiteral.

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Unknown MarkB: We have two methods: if you use @content that's a plain literal, if no datatype specified rdf:XMLLiteral. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown EliasT ]

13:49:34 <RalphS> Elias: I think we're agreeing that the current document says the default is XMLLiteral

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Unknown Elias: I think we're agreeing that the current document says the default is XMLLiteral [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:49:43 <RalphS> ... the question is whether we should change this decision

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Unknown RalphS: ... the question is whether we should change this decision

13:50:37 <RalphS> Mark: the examples further down in 5.1.1 (e-mc2) don't work if we change to plain literals

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Unknown Mark: the examples further down in 5.1.1 (e-mc2) don't work if we change to plain literals [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:51:58 <RalphS> Elias: several commentors have said that they don't understand the rationale for using XMLLiteral

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Unknown Elias: several commentors have said that they don't understand the rationale for using XMLLiteral [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:53:27 <RalphS> ... they're suggesting that if no datatype is specified, it should be treated as a plain literal

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Unknown RalphS: ... they're suggesting that if no datatype is specified, it should be treated as a plain literal

13:53:53 <RalphS> ... if the author wants to retain the markup, he must specify XMLLiteral

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Unknown RalphS: ... if the author wants to retain the markup, he must specify XMLLiteral

13:54:23 <Mark> Mark: But you have once again summarised what you desire, and not why it is logically correct.

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Unknown Mark: But you have once again summarised what you desire, and not why it is logically correct. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Mark ]

13:55:46 <RalphS> Elias: it is better to go to plain literals because it will result in less markup in the document

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Unknown Elias: it is better to go to plain literals because it will result in less markup in the document [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:56:04 <Mark> zakim, q+

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Unknown Mark: zakim, q+

13:56:04 <Zakim> I see RalphS, Mark on the speaker queue

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13:56:40 <RalphS> ... want the least amount of markup for the common case, which will be plain literals

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Unknown RalphS: ... want the least amount of markup for the common case, which will be plain literals

13:56:53 <RalphS> Mark: you'd need to show why you need plain literals

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Unknown Mark: you'd need to show why you need plain literals [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:57:34 <RalphS> ... DanBri noted that FOAF was really using typed literals even though his first reaction was that it was using plain literals

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Unknown RalphS: ... DanBri noted that FOAF was really using typed literals even though his first reaction was that it was using plain literals

13:58:10 <RalphS> ... I dispute the idea that plain literals are really the most common

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Unknown RalphS: ... I dispute the idea that plain literals are really the most common

13:58:30 <RalphS> Elias: it could be the case that people are not aware of what they're really using

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Unknown Elias: it could be the case that people are not aware of what they're really using [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:58:46 <RalphS> ... what about problem of setting language if you're not using XMLLiteral?

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Unknown RalphS: ... what about problem of setting language if you're using XMLLiteral?

13:58:53 <RalphS> s/not using/using/
13:59:24 <RalphS> Mark: ideal solution would be to allow both and use plain wherever there's no XML markup and XMLliteral when there is XML markup

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Unknown Mark: ideal solution would be to allow both and use plain wherever there's no XML markup and XMLliteral when there is XML markup [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ]

13:59:57 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617

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Unknown Steven: zakim, dial steven-617

13:59:57 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

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13:59:59 <Zakim> +Steven

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14:02:00 <Zakim> -Ralph

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14:02:33 <EliasT> ACTION: Elias to look for cases where plain literal is more of a common use.

ACTION: Elias to look for cases where plain literal is more of a common use.

14:02:54 <Steven> Apologies for missing the call!

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Unknown Steven: Apologies for missing the call!

14:02:59 <Mark> Mark: I wasn't saying that FOAF used typed literals, but that the notion of 'literal' encompasses both plain and typed.

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Unknown Mark: I wasn't saying that FOAF used typed literals, but that the notion of 'literal' encompasses both plain and typed. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Mark ]

14:03:05 <Steven> The hour daylight savings did it again!

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Unknown Steven: The hour daylight savings did it again!

14:03:13 <Steven> I forgot to reset the alarm

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Unknown Steven: I forgot to reset the alarm

14:03:33 <Steven> rrsagent, pointer?

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Unknown Steven: rrsagent, pointer?

14:03:33 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-irc#T14-03-33

RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-irc#T14-03-33

14:22:42 <EliasT> ACTION: MarkB to work rdf:label back into RDFa syntax when using @content

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ACTION: MarkB to work rdf:label back into RDFa syntax when using @content

14:31:11 <EliasT> RRSAgent, please generate minutes

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Unknown EliasT: RRSAgent, please generate minutes

14:31:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html EliasT

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html EliasT

14:31:37 <Zakim> -EliasT

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14:31:39 <Zakim> -Mark

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14:31:41 <Zakim> -wing

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14:31:42 <Zakim> -Steven

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14:31:43 <Zakim> -Simone

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14:31:45 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has ended

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14:31:47 <Zakim> Attendees were Ralph, wing, EliasT, Simone, Mark, Steven

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14:32:30 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

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Unknown Steven: rrsagent, make minutes

14:32:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

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