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14:59:40 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/08/17-rdf-wg-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/08/17-rdf-wg-irc ←
14:59:49 <Zakim> +Peter_Patel-Schneider
Zakim IRC Bot: +Peter_Patel-Schneider ←
14:59:53 <AndyS> rrsagent, make logs public
Andy Seaborne: rrsagent, make logs public ←
15:00:13 <Guus> zakim, who is here?
Guus Schreiber: zakim, who is here? ←
15:00:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, +20598aaaa, Peter_Patel-Schneider
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, +20598aaaa, Peter_Patel-Schneider ←
15:00:14 <Zakim> On IRC I see mischat_, mbrunati, RRSAgent, Zakim, FabGandon, AndyS, Scott_Bauer, Guus, gavinc, cygri, MacTed, mischat, tomayac, SteveH, davidwood, manu1, trackbot, NickH, manu,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see mischat_, mbrunati, RRSAgent, Zakim, FabGandon, AndyS, Scott_Bauer, Guus, gavinc, cygri, MacTed, mischat, tomayac, SteveH, davidwood, manu1, trackbot, NickH, manu, ←
15:00:16 <SteveH> Zakim, what is the code?
Steve Harris: Zakim, what is the code? ←
15:00:16 <Zakim> ... ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: ... ericP ←
15:00:17 <Zakim> the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), SteveH
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), SteveH ←
15:00:33 <Zakim> +DavidW
Zakim IRC Bot: +DavidW ←
15:00:34 <Guus> zakim, who is yalking?
Guus Schreiber: zakim, who is yalking? ←
15:00:34 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Guus.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, Guus. ←
15:00:44 <pfps> sounds LOVELY!
Peter Patel-Schneider: sounds LOVELY! ←
15:00:45 <Guus> Zakim, who is talking?
Guus Schreiber: Zakim, who is talking? ←
15:00:52 <Zakim> +Marcelo
Zakim IRC Bot: +Marcelo ←
15:00:56 <Zakim> Guus, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AndyS (59%)
Zakim IRC Bot: Guus, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AndyS (59%) ←
15:00:58 <cygri> zakim, Marcelo is me
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, Marcelo is me ←
15:00:58 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←
15:01:03 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software ←
15:01:07 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
15:01:12 <davidwood> Zakim, DavidW is me
David Wood: Zakim, DavidW is me ←
15:01:13 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←
15:01:14 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P9 is [Garlik]
Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P9 is [Garlik] ←
15:01:14 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
15:01:15 <AndyS> redialing ...
Andy Seaborne: redialing ... ←
15:01:17 <Zakim> +davidwood; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +davidwood; got it ←
15:01:19 <Zakim> +Tony
Zakim IRC Bot: +Tony ←
15:01:21 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MacTed; got it ←
15:01:23 <Zakim> +[Garlik]; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +[Garlik]; got it ←
15:01:25 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted ←
15:01:29 <Zakim> +tomayac
Zakim IRC Bot: +tomayac ←
15:01:31 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
15:01:31 <SteveH> Zakim, [Garlik] has SteveH, mischat
Steve Harris: Zakim, [Garlik] has SteveH, mischat ←
15:01:32 <Scott_Bauer> zakim, tony is me
Scott Bauer: zakim, tony is me ←
15:01:43 <Zakim> +SteveH, mischat; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveH, mischat; got it ←
15:01:45 <Zakim> +Scott_Bauer; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Scott_Bauer; got it ←
15:01:57 <Zakim> +??P12
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12 ←
15:02:03 <AndyS> zakim, ??P12 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P12 is me ←
15:02:09 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
15:02:14 <Guus> zakim, who is here?
Guus Schreiber: zakim, who is here? ←
15:02:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see +20598aaaa, Peter_Patel-Schneider, davidwood, cygri, MacTed (muted), [Garlik], Scott_Bauer, tomayac, AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +20598aaaa, Peter_Patel-Schneider, davidwood, cygri, MacTed (muted), [Garlik], Scott_Bauer, tomayac, AndyS ←
15:02:28 <zwu2> zakim, code?
15:02:30 <Zakim> [Garlik] has SteveH, mischat
Zakim IRC Bot: [Garlik] has SteveH, mischat ←
15:02:42 <Zakim> +ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP ←
15:02:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see zwu2, pfps, mischat, mbrunati, RRSAgent, Zakim, FabGandon, AndyS, Scott_Bauer, Guus, gavinc, cygri, MacTed, tomayac, SteveH, davidwood, manu1, trackbot, NickH, manu,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see zwu2, pfps, mischat, mbrunati, RRSAgent, Zakim, FabGandon, AndyS, Scott_Bauer, Guus, gavinc, cygri, MacTed, tomayac, SteveH, davidwood, manu1, trackbot, NickH, manu, ←
15:02:55 <Zakim> ... ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: ... ericP ←
15:02:57 <Zakim> the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), zwu2
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), zwu2 ←
15:03:05 <Zakim> + +1.707.861.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.707.861.aabb ←
15:03:12 <gavinc> zakim, aabb is me
Gavin Carothers: zakim, aabb is me ←
15:03:31 <Zakim> +gavinc; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +gavinc; got it ←
15:04:19 <Zakim> +[Sophia]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[Sophia] ←
15:04:30 <Zakim> +??P21
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P21 ←
15:04:33 <Zakim> + +1.650.265.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.650.265.aacc ←
15:04:44 <pchampin> zakim, ??P21 is me
Pierre-Antoine Champin: zakim, ??P21 is me ←
15:04:44 <zwu2> zakim, +1.650.265.aacc is me
Zhe Wu: zakim, +1.650.265.aacc is me ←
15:04:49 <zwu2> zakim, mute me
15:04:50 <FabGandon> Zakim, +[Sophia] is me
Fabien Gandon: Zakim, +[Sophia] is me ←
15:04:59 <Zakim> +pchampin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +pchampin; got it ←
15:04:59 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.08.17
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.08.17 ←
15:05:01 <Zakim> +zwu2; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +zwu2; got it ←
15:05:02 <pchampin> zakim, mute me
Pierre-Antoine Champin: zakim, mute me ←
15:05:09 <Zakim> zwu2 should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: zwu2 should now be muted ←
15:05:11 <Zakim> sorry, FabGandon, I do not recognize a party named '+[Sophia]'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, FabGandon, I do not recognize a party named '+[Sophia]' ←
15:05:19 <Zakim> pchampin should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: pchampin should now be muted ←
15:05:21 <FabGandon> zakim, sophia is me
Fabien Gandon: zakim, sophia is me ←
15:05:30 <gavinc> gavinc has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.08.17 (gavinc)
Gavin Carothers: gavinc has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.08.17 (gavinc) ←
15:05:35 <Zakim> +FabGandon; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +FabGandon; got it ←
15:05:37 <Guus> zakim, who is here?
Guus Schreiber: zakim, who is here? ←
15:05:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see +20598aaaa, Peter_Patel-Schneider, davidwood, cygri, MacTed (muted), [Garlik], Scott_Bauer, tomayac, AndyS, ericP, gavinc, FabGandon, pchampin (muted), zwu2
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +20598aaaa, Peter_Patel-Schneider, davidwood, cygri, MacTed (muted), [Garlik], Scott_Bauer, tomayac, AndyS, ericP, gavinc, FabGandon, pchampin (muted), zwu2 ←
15:05:43 <ericP> ericP has changed the topic to: RDF WG telecon: agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.08.17
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ericP has changed the topic to: RDF WG telecon: agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.08.17 ←
15:05:48 <Zakim> ... (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted) ←
15:05:54 <Zakim> [Garlik] has SteveH, mischat
Zakim IRC Bot: [Garlik] has SteveH, mischat ←
15:05:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see PatHayes, pchampin, zwu2, pfps, mischat, mbrunati, RRSAgent, Zakim, FabGandon, AndyS, Scott_Bauer, Guus, gavinc, cygri, MacTed, tomayac, SteveH, davidwood, manu1,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see PatHayes, pchampin, zwu2, pfps, mischat, mbrunati, RRSAgent, Zakim, FabGandon, AndyS, Scott_Bauer, Guus, gavinc, cygri, MacTed, tomayac, SteveH, davidwood, manu1, ←
15:06:01 <Zakim> ... trackbot, NickH, manu, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot, NickH, manu, ericP ←
15:06:04 <Zakim> +PatH
Zakim IRC Bot: +PatH ←
15:06:38 <PatHayes> zakim, mute me
Patrick Hayes: zakim, mute me ←
15:06:38 <Zakim> sorry, PatHayes, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, PatHayes, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
15:07:27 <PatHayes> PatHayes is PatH
Patrick Hayes: PatHayes is PatH ←
15:08:38 <ericP> PROPOSED: accept http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-08-03 as a record of the 3 Aug telecon as amended per http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.08.17
PROPOSED: accept http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-08-03 as a record of the 3 Aug telecon as amended per http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.08.17 ←
15:09:48 <ericP> APPROVED
Eric Prud'hommeaux: APPROVED ←
15:09:55 <ericP> RESOLVED
Eric Prud'hommeaux: RESOLVED ←
15:09:59 <mischat> zakim, +PatH is PatHayes
Mischa Tuffield: zakim, +PatH is PatHayes ←
15:09:59 <Zakim> sorry, mischat, I do not recognize a party named '+PatH'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, mischat, I do not recognize a party named '+PatH' ←
15:11:07 <mbrunati> sorry guys today I'm only via irc, some problems with the audio
Matteo Brunati: sorry guys today I'm only via irc, some problems with the audio ←
15:11:14 <ericP> ACTION: FabGandon to implement http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-08-03#resolution_2
ACTION: FabGandon to implement http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-08-03#resolution_2 ←
15:11:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-73 - Implement http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-08-03#resolution_2 [on Fabien Gandon - due 2011-08-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-73 - Implement http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2011-08-03#resolution_2 [on Fabien Gandon - due 2011-08-24]. ←
15:13:48 <Zakim> +??P29
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P29 ←
15:13:58 <NickH> Zakim, ??P29 is me
Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, ??P29 is me ←
15:13:58 <Zakim> +NickH; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +NickH; got it ←
15:14:02 <NickH> zakim, mute me
Nicholas Humfrey: zakim, mute me ←
15:14:02 <Zakim> NickH should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: NickH should now be muted ←
15:14:10 <Zakim> +Souri
Zakim IRC Bot: +Souri ←
15:14:16 <ericP> ACTION-65: CONTINUED
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ACTION-65: CONTINUED ←
15:14:16 <trackbot> ACTION-65 And Pat to consider what words to add to minimal proposal. notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-65 And Pat to consider what words to add to minimal proposal. notes added ←
15:14:29 <ericP> ACTION-66: CONTINUED
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ACTION-66: CONTINUED ←
15:14:29 <trackbot> ACTION-66 Contact Paul notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-66 Contact Paul notes added ←
15:14:47 <ericP> ACTION-67: CONTINUED
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ACTION-67: CONTINUED ←
15:14:47 <trackbot> ACTION-67 Review Pierre-A's comments on SPARQL graph store upade protocol notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-67 Review Pierre-A's comments on SPARQL graph store upade protocol notes added ←
15:15:07 <ericP> ACTION-68: CONTINUED
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ACTION-68: CONTINUED ←
15:15:07 <trackbot> ACTION-68 Review Pierre-A's comments on SPARQL graph store upade protocol notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-68 Review Pierre-A's comments on SPARQL graph store upade protocol notes added ←
15:15:47 <ericP> ACTION-69: CONTINUED
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ACTION-69: CONTINUED ←
15:15:47 <trackbot> ACTION-69 Update Turtle issue list to reflect current status notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-69 Update Turtle issue list to reflect current status notes added ←
15:16:03 <ericP> ACTION-70: CONTINUED
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ACTION-70: CONTINUED ←
15:16:03 <trackbot> ACTION-70 Send email to provenance WG chairs about a joint call notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-70 Send email to provenance WG chairs about a joint call notes added ←
15:16:08 <ericP> ACTION-71: CONTINUED
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ACTION-71: CONTINUED ←
15:16:09 <trackbot> ACTION-71 Email team-prov-chairs@w3.org about joint task force, or something. maybe include RDFa and SPARQL notes added
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-71 Email team-prov-chairs@w3.org about joint task force, or something. maybe include RDFa and SPARQL notes added ←
15:17:06 <ericP> topic: next telecon
15:17:38 <ericP> davidwood: i proposed by email that ivan chair a meeting about RDF JSON work
David Wood: i proposed by email that ivan chair a meeting about RDF JSON work [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:17:52 <ericP> whois tomayac
Eric Prud'hommeaux: whois tomayac ←
15:18:25 <ericP> tomayac: Ian will put the doc in version control and we'll review
Thomas Steiner: Ian will put the doc in version control and we'll review [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:18:41 <ericP> ... in 1.5 weeks we should have something to disucss re: JSON
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... in 1.5 weeks we should have something to disucss re: JSON ←
15:19:15 <ericP> davidwood: does the JSON LD work obviate our need to continue our work?
David Wood: does the JSON LD work obviate our need to continue our work? [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:19:37 <ericP> tomayac: i'm slightly confused about the JSON LD work
Thomas Steiner: i'm slightly confused about the JSON LD work [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:19:50 <manu> zakim, code?
Manu Sporny: zakim, code? ←
15:19:50 <Zakim> the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), manu
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), manu ←
15:20:02 <ericP> ... ivan said we'd start with the Talis JSON and proceed to JSON LD
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... ivan said we'd start with the Talis JSON and proceed to JSON LD ←
15:20:18 <Zakim> +??P32
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P32 ←
15:20:20 <ericP> ... progress in the JSON LD task force
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... progress in the JSON LD task force ←
15:20:24 <manu> zakim, I am ??P32
Manu Sporny: zakim, I am ??P32 ←
15:20:24 <Zakim> +manu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +manu; got it ←
15:20:54 <manu> q+
Manu Sporny: q+ ←
15:21:14 <ericP> davidwood: given manu's assertion that JSON LD meets all stated use cases so perhaps we should avoid making a competing spec
David Wood: given manu's assertion that JSON LD meets all stated use cases so perhaps we should avoid making a competing spec [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:21:31 <ericP> manu: i still need to review the RDF JSON use cases
Manu Sporny: i still need to review the RDF JSON use cases [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:21:55 <ericP> ... some diligence required to confirm the claim that JSON LD work meets all stated use cases
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... some diligence required to confirm the claim that JSON LD work meets all stated use cases ←
15:22:04 <ericP> ... should have a document in 2 months
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... should have a document in 2 months ←
15:22:20 <ericP> ... (JSON LD)
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... (JSON LD) ←
15:22:53 <ericP> ... we just need to examine both approaches
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... we just need to examine both approaches ←
15:23:09 <gavinc> http://json-ld.org/spec/latest/
Gavin Carothers: http://json-ld.org/spec/latest/ ←
15:23:23 <manu> http://json-ld.org/playground/
Manu Sporny: http://json-ld.org/playground/ ←
15:23:41 <ericP> ... there's a JSON LD playground which shows the choices of input and output
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... there's a JSON LD playground which shows the choices of input and output ←
15:24:08 <ericP> ... shows a set of examples in different JSON representations
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... shows a set of examples in different JSON representations ←
15:24:22 <ericP> ... spec defines the round-trip to RDF/XML
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... spec defines the round-trip to RDF/XML ←
15:24:40 <ericP> ... the first 20% should be sufficient prep for next week
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... the first 20% should be sufficient prep for next week ←
15:25:04 <ericP> ... then go ahead and play with the playground
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... then go ahead and play with the playground ←
15:25:30 <ericP> ACTION: manu to send JSON discussion preparation message to public-rdf-wd
ACTION: manu to send JSON discussion preparation message to public-rdf-wd ←
15:25:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-74 - Send JSON discussion preparation message to public-rdf-wd [on Manu Sporny - due 2011-08-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-74 - Send JSON discussion preparation message to public-rdf-wd [on Manu Sporny - due 2011-08-24]. ←
15:25:31 <tomayac> it was resolved in http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/2
Thomas Steiner: it was resolved in http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/2 ←
15:25:53 <ericP> next telecon: 24 Aug
Eric Prud'hommeaux: next telecon: 24 Aug ←
15:25:54 <tomayac> from issue 2: "(1) Incubate on something like JSON-LD, (2) make a REC on something like Talis RDF/JSON, and (3) make a Note on current practice stuff like Linked Data API, at FTF1"
Thomas Steiner: from ISSUE-2: "(1) Incubate on something like JSON-LD, (2) make a REC on something like Talis RDF/JSON, and (3) make a Note on current practice stuff like Linked Data API, at FTF1" ←
15:26:06 <ericP> topic FTF2 Admin
Eric Prud'hommeaux: topic FTF2 Admin ←
15:26:09 <ericP> topic: FTF2 Admin
15:26:21 <tomayac> ian's and my doc will thus cover (2)
Thomas Steiner: ian's and my doc will thus cover (2) ←
15:26:31 <ericP> Guus: please fill in http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/F2F2
Guus Schreiber: please fill in http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/F2F2 [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:26:59 <ericP> cygri: we need UK site decision expected next week
Richard Cyganiak: we need UK site decision expected next week [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:27:08 <ericP> ... would help to know how many folks to expect
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... would help to know how many folks to expect ←
15:27:14 <NickH> If people want to have a meeting in London, then I am sure the BBC can work something out
Nicholas Humfrey: If people want to have a meeting in London, then I am sure the BBC can work something out ←
15:27:15 <ericP> Guus: i see 4 so far
Guus Schreiber: i see 4 so far [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:27:27 <NickH> we have a lot of meeting rooms!
Nicholas Humfrey: we have a lot of meeting rooms! ←
15:27:38 <pchampin> I didn't update the wiki page yet, but I will only be able to join if there is a european location
Pierre-Antoine Champin: I didn't update the wiki page yet, but I will only be able to join if there is a european location ←
15:27:39 <gavinc> It looked like it was a Europe F2F with a remote at MIT ;)
Gavin Carothers: It looked like it was a Europe F2F with a remote at MIT ;) ←
15:27:59 <AndyS> OxfordU/comp lab has a setup that works with MIT [no WG member?]
Andy Seaborne: OxfordU/comp lab has a setup that works with MIT [no WG member?] ←
15:28:06 <ericP> Guus: i can imagine half in UK, half at MIT
Guus Schreiber: i can imagine half in UK, half at MIT [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:28:21 <ericP> topic: Turtle
15:28:44 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/News/2011#entry-9171 Turtle FPWD news item
Eric Prud'hommeaux: -> http://www.w3.org/News/2011#entry-9171 Turtle FPWD news item ←
15:28:50 <mischat> i had asked soton uni, but it coincided with the "freshers week" which meant that rooms would have been hard to come by
Mischa Tuffield: i had asked soton uni, but it coincided with the "freshers week" which meant that rooms would have been hard to come by ←
15:28:57 <ericP> Guus: editors need to monitor the comments list
Guus Schreiber: editors need to monitor the comments list [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:29:22 <Zakim> -manu
Zakim IRC Bot: -manu ←
15:29:53 <ericP> ... someone should mail the semweb lists
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... someone should mail the semweb lists ←
15:30:07 <ericP> gavinc: already one feedback from bob charm
Gavin Carothers: already one feedback from bob charm [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:30:51 <ericP> ACTION: Guus to send mail to semantic web and LOD lists requesting feedback on Turtle FPWD
ACTION: Guus to send mail to semantic web and LOD lists requesting feedback on Turtle FPWD ←
15:30:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-75 - Send mail to semantic web and LOD lists requesting feedback on Turtle FPWD [on Guus Schreiber - due 2011-08-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-75 - Send mail to semantic web and LOD lists requesting feedback on Turtle FPWD [on Guus Schreiber - due 2011-08-24]. ←
15:31:10 <ericP> Guus: if folks want to distribute this more widely, go ahead
Guus Schreiber: if folks want to distribute this more widely, go ahead [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:31:51 <ericP> gavinc: this WG is not lisverva subscribable
Gavin Carothers: this WG is not lisverva subscribable [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:32:51 <ericP> ericP: i don't think we've made DBWG and listserve work together
Eric Prud'hommeaux: i don't think we've made DBWG and listserve work together [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:33:05 <ericP> topic: RDF Concepts
15:33:18 <Zakim> +tomayac.a
Zakim IRC Bot: +tomayac.a ←
15:33:23 <ericP> -> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-concepts/index.html editor's draft
Eric Prud'hommeaux: -> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-concepts/index.html editor's draft ←
15:33:44 <ericP> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2011Aug/0008.html decision to publish
Eric Prud'hommeaux: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2011Aug/0008.html decision to publish ←
15:33:54 <cygri> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/rdf-concepts-FPWD/rdf-concepts/Overview.html
Richard Cyganiak: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/rdf-concepts-FPWD/rdf-concepts/Overview.html ←
15:33:55 <ericP> Guus: are editors still intereted in feedback?
Guus Schreiber: are editors still intereted in feedback? [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:34:03 <Guus> q?
Guus Schreiber: q? ←
15:34:13 <ericP> cygri: sure, but i'd say we're good enough to publish now
Richard Cyganiak: sure, but i'd say we're good enough to publish now [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:34:28 <ericP> ... we could pick a date and get to what we can before the pub date
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... we could pick a date and get to what we can before the pub date ←
15:34:43 <ericP> davidwood: i propose we make a transition request
David Wood: i propose we make a transition request [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:35:10 <ericP> Guus: there are comments, but if you don't want to address them before publication, go ahead
Guus Schreiber: there are comments, but if you don't want to address them before publication, go ahead [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:35:24 <mischat> i have gone through the document abstract concept documents too, nothing but minor issues, i will send it round at some point soon
Mischa Tuffield: i have gone through the document abstract concept documents too, nothing but minor issues, i will send it round at some point soon ←
15:35:44 <ericP> davidwood: i'd like to make the transition request and make changes in parallel
David Wood: i'd like to make the transition request and make changes in parallel [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:35:45 <ericP> q+
Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ ←
15:35:55 <ericP> q-
Eric Prud'hommeaux: q- ←
15:36:43 <gavinc> +q
Gavin Carothers: +q ←
15:37:21 <gavinc> -q
Gavin Carothers: -q ←
15:37:30 <ericP> ericP: note that the WG is permitting the editors to make changes after the decision to publish
Eric Prud'hommeaux: note that the WG is permitting the editors to make changes after the decision to publish [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:37:45 <ericP> topic: ISSUE-12 language-tagged literals
15:38:01 <davidwood> Transition request for RDF Concepts to FPWD sent
David Wood: Transition request for RDF Concepts to FPWD sent ←
15:38:34 <ericP> AndyS: cygri introduced two classes: rdf:text is the current plain literals and langstring, including xsd:string
Andy Seaborne: cygri introduced two classes: rdf:text is the current plain literals and langstring, including xsd:string [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:39:01 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
15:39:12 <ericP> PatHayes: all seems fine except the open question about whether it's a new datatype
Patrick Hayes: all seems fine except the open question about whether it's a new datatype [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:39:25 <ericP> ... i'm happy to make it a datatype; i see it's a small change
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... i'm happy to make it a datatype; i see it's a small change ←
15:39:38 <mischat> ok
Mischa Tuffield: ok ←
15:39:38 <cygri> q-
Richard Cyganiak: q- ←
15:39:45 <ericP> ... there are some who see this change as large
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... there are some who see this change as large ←
15:40:13 <gavinc> can OWL datatype properties be used with literals without a datatype?
Gavin Carothers: can OWL datatype properties be used with literals without a datatype? ←
15:40:23 <AndyS> sorry - will redial
Andy Seaborne: sorry - will redial ←
15:40:30 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
15:40:55 <ericP> ... what value do we get out of it being a datatype?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... what value do we get out of it being a datatype? ←
15:41:06 <ericP> AndyS: principally uniformity
Andy Seaborne: principally uniformity [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:41:09 <Zakim> +??P12
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12 ←
15:41:16 <AndyS> zakim, ??P12 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P12 is me ←
15:41:16 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
15:42:02 <ericP> AndyS: current datatype of "" or ""@en is an error
Andy Seaborne: current datatype of "" or ""@en is an error [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:42:04 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
15:42:36 <AndyS> rdf:LangString
Andy Seaborne: rdf:LangString ←
15:42:38 <ericP> PatHayes: i see that as sufficient motivation to make rdf:langString a datatype
Patrick Hayes: i see that as sufficient motivation to make rdf:langString a datatype [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:43:02 <ericP> cygri: an concearned that this proposal changes the way datatypes work
Richard Cyganiak: an concearned that this proposal changes the way datatypes work [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:43:17 <manu> ack manu
Manu Sporny: ack manu ←
15:43:19 <Guus> q+
Guus Schreiber: q+ ←
15:43:26 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
15:43:38 <ericP> ... lang-tagged string has an atypical lexical form
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... lang-tagged string has an atypical lexical form ←
15:43:46 <ericP> ... is there a work-around?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... is there a work-around? ←
15:44:22 <ericP> ... e.g. say that rdf:langStrings have no lexical to value mapping?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... e.g. say that rdf:langStrings have no lexical to value mapping? ←
15:45:25 <ericP> AndyS: a few options:
Andy Seaborne: a few options: [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:45:26 <Guus> q?
Guus Schreiber: q? ←
15:45:30 <cygri> ackm e
Richard Cyganiak: ackm e ←
15:45:31 <cygri> ack me
Richard Cyganiak: ack me ←
15:45:36 <Guus> ack me
Guus Schreiber: ack me ←
15:45:42 <Guus> ack AndyS
Guus Schreiber: ack AndyS ←
15:45:51 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:45:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see +20598aaaa, Peter_Patel-Schneider, davidwood, cygri, MacTed (muted), [Garlik], Scott_Bauer, tomayac, ericP, gavinc, FabGandon, pchampin (muted), zwu2 (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +20598aaaa, Peter_Patel-Schneider, davidwood, cygri, MacTed (muted), [Garlik], Scott_Bauer, tomayac, ericP, gavinc, FabGandon, pchampin (muted), zwu2 (muted), ←
15:45:54 <ericP> ... cygri's: that there be no valid LtoV for rdf:langStrings
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... cygri's: that there be no valid LtoV for rdf:langStrings ←
15:45:55 <Zakim> ... PatH, NickH (muted), Souri, tomayac.a, AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: ... PatH, NickH (muted), Souri, tomayac.a, AndyS ←
15:45:56 <Zakim> [Garlik] has SteveH, mischat
Zakim IRC Bot: [Garlik] has SteveH, mischat ←
15:46:40 <ericP> ... modify the LtoV, which is parameterized by the datatype. extend the function to take a language parameter
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... modify the LtoV, which is parameterized by the datatype. extend the function to take a language parameter ←
15:46:50 <pchampin> q+
15:47:03 <ericP> PatHayes: can say that LtoV operates on a lexical form + a tag
Patrick Hayes: can say that LtoV operates on a lexical form + a tag [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:47:17 <AndyS> ack me
Andy Seaborne: ack me ←
15:47:28 <Guus> ack pchampin
Guus Schreiber: ack pchampin ←
15:47:44 <PatHayes> very rough sound
Patrick Hayes: very rough sound ←
15:47:59 <PatHayes> better
Patrick Hayes: better ←
15:48:03 <AndyS> could you type into IRC?
Andy Seaborne: could you type into IRC? ←
15:48:18 <NickH> sorry, can't understand
Nicholas Humfrey: sorry, can't understand ←
15:48:25 <pchampin> sorry
Pierre-Antoine Champin: sorry ←
15:48:38 <gavinc> zakim, mute pchampin
Gavin Carothers: zakim, mute pchampin ←
15:48:38 <Zakim> pchampin should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: pchampin should now be muted ←
15:48:43 <pchampin> to AndyS's remark: having a valid lexical form makes it cumbersome, see PlainLiteral
Pierre-Antoine Champin: to AndyS's remark: having a valid lexical form makes it cumbersome, see PlainLiteral ←
15:48:56 <PatHayes> agree.
Patrick Hayes: agree. ←
15:49:15 <pchampin> to Pat's remark: using the full lexical form will raise problems with Turtle, which has syntactic sugar for some datatypes
Pierre-Antoine Champin: to Pat's remark: using the full lexical form will raise problems with Turtle, which has syntactic sugar for some datatypes ←
15:49:55 <AndyS> The lexical part is the string - not encoded (c.f. rdf:PlainLiteral). Add extra info to the process by some means
Andy Seaborne: The lexical part is the string - not encoded (c.f. rdf:PlainLiteral). Add extra info to the process by some means ←
15:50:00 <PatHayes> any syntax that can describe tags, can be used unchanged.
Patrick Hayes: any syntax that can describe tags, can be used unchanged. ←
15:50:00 <ericP> cygri: it looks like we have consensus about what we want rdf:langString to look like, but we need to work to implementation details
Richard Cyganiak: it looks like we have consensus about what we want rdf:langString to look like, but we need to work to implementation details [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:50:16 <PatHayes> the only change is to the abstract model.
Patrick Hayes: the only change is to the abstract model. ←
15:50:40 <ericP> ... this will change the terminology. past changes and these invalidate the term "plain literal"
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... this will change the terminology. past changes and these invalidate the term "plain literal" ←
15:50:46 <PatHayes> 'plain
Patrick Hayes: 'plain ←
15:50:58 <PatHayes> ' is now a type. no prblem
Patrick Hayes: ' is now a type. no prblem ←
15:51:00 <PatHayes> ;-
Patrick Hayes: ;- ←
15:51:04 <AndyS> I don't think it must change Turtle - it's a mechanism along side short forms like integer or decimal or double.
Andy Seaborne: I don't think it must change Turtle - it's a mechanism along side short forms like integer or decimal or double. ←
15:51:15 <ericP> ... we want to avoid the impression that we've radically changed the language (which i don't believe we have)
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... we want to avoid the impression that we've radically changed the language (which i don't believe we have) ←
15:51:19 <AndyS> plain literal = rdf:Text
Andy Seaborne: plain literal = rdf:Text ←
15:51:20 <AndyS> ??
Andy Seaborne: ?? ←
15:51:29 <ericP> Guus: you can connect the old terminology to the current form
Guus Schreiber: you can connect the old terminology to the current form [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:51:40 <PatHayes> really, this is a storm in a teacup.
Patrick Hayes: really, this is a storm in a teacup. ←
15:52:22 <PatHayes> I could try to summarize the options in an email.
Patrick Hayes: I could try to summarize the options in an email. ←
15:52:36 <PatHayes> I see four so far.
Patrick Hayes: I see four so far. ←
15:52:38 <PatHayes> yes
Patrick Hayes: yes ←
15:52:51 <ericP> ericP: are there any disiderada which help us figure the implementation
Eric Prud'hommeaux: are there any disiderada which help us figure the implementation [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:52:52 <PatHayes> ok
Patrick Hayes: ok ←
15:53:05 <AndyS> Thanks Pat
Andy Seaborne: Thanks Pat ←
15:53:21 <ericP> ACTION: PatHayes to summarize the options
ACTION: PatHayes to summarize the options ←
15:53:21 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - PatHayes
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - PatHayes ←
15:53:28 <ericP> ACTION: PatH to summarize the options
ACTION: PatH to summarize the options ←
15:53:35 <ericP> action -4
Eric Prud'hommeaux: action -4 ←
15:54:07 <ericP> Guus: editors will have to look closely at PatHayes's summary
Guus Schreiber: editors will have to look closely at PatHayes's summary [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:54:30 <ericP> topic: WG priorities before F2F
15:55:16 <ericP> Guus: which are the highest priority issues?
Guus Schreiber: which are the highest priority issues? [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:55:20 <pchampin> +1
15:55:20 <ericP> ... propose named graphs
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... propose named graphs ←
15:55:37 <ericP> cygri: agreed. the rdf:langString seems to be making good progress
Richard Cyganiak: agreed. the rdf:langString seems to be making good progress [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:56:25 <ericP> davidwood: we're going to have a hard time writing documents and proposing changes to SPARQL until we have nailed down the multi-graph terminology
David Wood: we're going to have a hard time writing documents and proposing changes to SPARQL until we have nailed down the multi-graph terminology [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:56:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-76 - Summarize the options [on Patrick Hayes - due 2011-08-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-76 - Summarize the options [on Patrick Hayes - due 2011-08-24]. ←
15:56:37 <trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, bad ACTION syntax ←
15:56:42 <ericP> Guus: ok, multi-graph. what else?
Guus Schreiber: ok, multi-graph. what else? [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:56:58 <ericP> cygri: what are the objections against using the SPARQL dataset design?
Richard Cyganiak: what are the objections against using the SPARQL dataset design? [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:57:16 <ericP> ... sandro, pchampin, PatHayes aren't happy
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... sandro, pchampin, PatHayes aren't happy ←
15:59:31 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/TF-Graphs/RDF-Datasets-Proposal
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/TF-Graphs/RDF-Datasets-Proposal ←
15:59:47 <ericP> ACTION: cygri to add strawman rdf dataset proposal to concepts
ACTION: cygri to add strawman rdf dataset proposal to concepts ←
15:59:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-77 - Add strawman rdf dataset proposal to concepts [on Richard Cyganiak - due 2011-08-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-77 - Add strawman rdf dataset proposal to concepts [on Richard Cyganiak - due 2011-08-24]. ←
16:00:06 <PatHayes> Actually, PatH is getting to the point where he almost doesnt care what terminology is used, as long as we settle on something.
Patrick Hayes: Actually, PatH is getting to the point where he almost doesnt care what terminology is used, as long as we settle on something. ←
16:00:07 <AndyS> Probably too weak/loose/open/flexible for this WG
Andy Seaborne: Probably too weak/loose/open/flexible for this WG ←
16:00:19 <ericP> Guus: priorities for Turtle?
Guus Schreiber: priorities for Turtle? [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
16:00:25 <pchampin> @cygri: I have to get up to date with the mailing list (I'm just back from holiday), but I as soon as I'm up to date, I can try to summarize in a mail what makes me unhappy in the SPARQL dataset model
Pierre-Antoine Champin: @cygri: I have to get up to date with the mailing list (I'm just back from holiday), but I as soon as I'm up to date, I can try to summarize in a mail what makes me unhappy in the SPARQL dataset model ←
16:01:33 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Documents#N-Triples
Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Documents#N-Triples ←
16:01:48 <ericP> gavinc: talking to AndyS yesterday, ericP and I thought that N-Triples would be going into the Turtle doc
Gavin Carothers: talking to AndyS yesterday, ericP and I thought that N-Triples would be going into the Turtle doc [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
16:02:00 <ericP> ... but apparently there was a WG decision to publish separately?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... but apparently there was a WG decision to publish separately? ←
16:02:57 <ericP> Guus: there are many motivations to publish separately
Guus Schreiber: there are many motivations to publish separately [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
16:03:37 <cygri> gavinc, i'm pretty sure there wasn't any resolution on this yet. discussion but no resolution. discussion is in the F2F1 minutes, day1+day2
Richard Cyganiak: gavinc, i'm pretty sure there wasn't any resolution on this yet. discussion but no resolution. discussion is in the F2F1 minutes, day1+day2 ←
16:03:56 <ericP> ... but no cost to start with it as an appendix
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... but no cost to start with it as an appendix ←
16:04:57 <ericP> ACTION: ericP to add http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Documents#N-Triples content as an appendix to Turtle editor's draft before F2F
ACTION: ericP to add http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Documents#N-Triples content as an appendix to Turtle editor's draft before F2F ←
16:04:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Add http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Documents#N-Triples content as an appendix to Turtle editor's draft before F2F [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2011-08-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-78 - Add http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Documents#N-Triples content as an appendix to Turtle editor's draft before F2F [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2011-08-24]. ←
16:05:44 <Zakim> -FabGandon
Zakim IRC Bot: -FabGandon ←
16:06:03 <ericP> Guus: JSON work will be discussed next week. priority discussion deferred 'till then
Guus Schreiber: JSON work will be discussed next week. priority discussion deferred 'till then [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
16:06:42 <ericP> ... is it worth starting on the semantics document?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... is it worth starting on the semantics document? ←
16:07:03 <ericP> PatHayes: we could start in parallel noting that terminology will shift
Patrick Hayes: we could start in parallel noting that terminology will shift [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
16:07:15 <ericP> pfps, agreed?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: pfps, agreed? ←
16:09:02 <ericP> Guus: we have separate editors listed for N-Triples
Guus Schreiber: we have separate editors listed for N-Triples [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
16:09:13 <ericP> ... which means they are likely to comment on gavinc's draft
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... which means they are likely to comment on gavinc's draft ←
16:09:30 <ericP> ... i think that the primer is good to write near the end
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... i think that the primer is good to write near the end ←
16:09:41 <ericP> PatHayes: propose we gather examples
Patrick Hayes: propose we gather examples [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
16:10:38 <ericP> ACTION: Guus to discuss with FabGandon about where to put examples and what to do with primary before F2F
ACTION: Guus to discuss with FabGandon about where to put examples and what to do with primary before F2F ←
16:10:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Discuss with FabGandon about where to put examples and what to do with primary before F2F [on Guus Schreiber - due 2011-08-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-79 - Discuss with FabGandon about where to put examples and what to do with primary before F2F [on Guus Schreiber - due 2011-08-24]. ←
16:10:57 <ericP> Guus: leave Trig and quad syntax for later?
Guus Schreiber: leave Trig and quad syntax for later? [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
16:11:12 <ericP> ... leave RDF/XML for later?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... leave RDF/XML for later? ←
16:11:13 <PatHayes> i have to leave soon. Andy, can you email me the current plain/lang literal terminology?
Patrick Hayes: i have to leave soon. Andy, can you email me the current plain/lang literal terminology? ←
16:11:24 <ericP> davidwood: we're motivated to touch RDF/XML only once
David Wood: we're motivated to touch RDF/XML only once [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
16:11:58 <ericP> ADJOURNED
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ADJOURNED ←
16:12:03 <AndyS> Richard - do you want to let PatH know your current state on terminology? I'll resend email he may have lost
Andy Seaborne: Richard - do you want to let PatH know your current state on terminology? I'll resend email he may have lost ←
16:12:30 <Zakim> -PatH
Zakim IRC Bot: -PatH ←
16:12:42 <AndyS> Regrets for next week.
Andy Seaborne: Regrets for next week. ←
16:12:50 <pchampin> http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual.html
Pierre-Antoine Champin: http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual.html ←
16:12:53 <cygri> AndyS, ok i'll do that
Richard Cyganiak: AndyS, ok i'll do that ←
16:12:56 <pchampin> here is the link
Pierre-Antoine Champin: here is the link ←
16:13:00 <Zakim> -davidwood
Zakim IRC Bot: -davidwood ←
16:13:04 <Zakim> -[Garlik]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[Garlik] ←
16:13:09 <cygri> ericP, http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/?group=rdf-wg&go=Use+This+Group
Richard Cyganiak: ericP, http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/?group=rdf-wg&go=Use+This+Group ←
16:13:11 <cygri> start there
Richard Cyganiak: start there ←
16:13:11 <Zakim> -Souri
Zakim IRC Bot: -Souri ←
16:13:13 <Zakim> -MacTed
Zakim IRC Bot: -MacTed ←
16:13:13 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
16:13:19 <Zakim> -zwu2
Zakim IRC Bot: -zwu2 ←
16:13:20 <Zakim> -Scott_Bauer
Zakim IRC Bot: -Scott_Bauer ←
16:13:20 <Zakim> -cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri ←
16:13:51 <ericP> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Eric Prud'hommeaux: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
16:13:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/17-rdf-wg-minutes.html ericP
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/17-rdf-wg-minutes.html ericP ←
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