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Provenance Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 18 April 2013

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.04.18
Seen
Curt Tilmes, Daniel Garijo, Hook Hua, Ivan Herman, James Cheney, Khalid Belhajjame, Luc Moreau, Paolo Missier, Paul Groth, Sam Coppens, Simon Miles, Stephan Zednik, Stian Soiland-Reyes, Timothy Lebo, Tom De Nies, Trung Huynh
Regrets
Khalid Belhajjame, Luc Moreau
Chair
Paul Groth
Scribe
Tom De Nies
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Minutes of April 11, 2013 Telcon link
  2. to publish prov-dc as a Working Group note. link
  3. to publish prov-dictionary as a Working Group note. link
  4. to publish prov-xml as a Working Group note. link
  5. to publish prov-overview as a Working Group note. link
Topics
  1. Admin

    Minuters were approved

  2. All publications

    All editors were reminded to stage their final version of documents and remove links to editor's drafts. Also editors were reminded to check the provenance of provenance.

  3. Prov-aq

    All issues have been addressed and Paul will stage document.

  4. PROV-DC

    Comments from Stian and Antoine were mostly addressed a couple of minor things remained to be done. The group agreed not to wait on subsequent comments from Antoine because they were well past the deadline for comments. Tim agreed to do a final grammar check on the document. The group voted to publish PROV-DC as a working group note.

  5. PROV-Dictionary

    PROV-Dictionary was staged the group voted to publish it as a working group note.

  6. PROV-XML

    All comments have been addressed. The group voted to publish PROV-XML as working group note.

  7. PROV-Overview

    Paul went over the changes in PROV-Overview. The group discussed whether we had met the recommendations set forth by the PROV Incubator Group. In James' review, he proposed that we had. There was consensus that PROV does indeed meet the recommendations. The group voted to publish PROV-Overview as a working group note.

  8. Promotion

    Daniel inquired if they could use current tutorial material in subsequent tutorials. The answer was yes (just keep the provenance).

13:32:57 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/04/18-prov-irc

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13:32:59 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

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13:33:01 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be PROV

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be PROV

13:33:01 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

13:33:02 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
13:33:02 <trackbot> Date: 18 April 2013
14:14:58 <ivan> trackbot, start telcon

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Ivan Herman: trackbot, start telcon

14:15:00 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

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14:15:02 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be PROV

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be PROV

14:15:02 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 45 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 45 minutes

14:15:03 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
14:15:03 <trackbot> Date: 18 April 2013
14:15:42 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: Provenance WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/ -- agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.04.18

Ivan Herman: ivan has changed the topic to: Provenance WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/ -- agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.04.18

14:49:28 <ivan> Regrets: Khalid
14:52:35 <pgroth> trackbot, start telcon

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Paul Groth: trackbot, start telcon

14:52:37 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

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14:52:39 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be PROV

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be PROV

14:52:39 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

14:52:40 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
14:52:40 <trackbot> Date: 18 April 2013
14:52:42 <pgroth> Zakim, this will be PROV

Paul Groth: Zakim, this will be PROV

14:52:45 <Zakim> ok, pgroth; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, pgroth; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

14:52:54 <pgroth> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.04.18
14:53:02 <pgroth> Chair: Paul Groth
14:53:15 <pgroth> Scribe: Tom De Nies

(Scribe set to Tom De Nies)

14:53:22 <pgroth> @ivan you still have to edit though :-)

Paul Groth: @ivan you still have to edit though :-)

14:53:26 <pgroth> i did it this week

Paul Groth: i did it this week

14:53:29 <pgroth> actually much nicer

Paul Groth: actually much nicer

14:53:33 <pgroth> +1 to sandro

Paul Groth: +1 to sandro

14:53:42 <pgroth> rrsagent, make logs public

Paul Groth: rrsagent, make logs public

14:53:51 <ivan> yes, you need to edit:-)

Ivan Herman: yes, you need to edit:-)

14:53:52 <pgroth> Regrets: Luc Moreau
14:54:02 <ivan> Regrets+ Khalid

Ivan Herman: Regrets+ Khalid

14:54:19 <Zakim> SW_(PROV)11:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(PROV)11:00AM has now started

14:54:25 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:54:28 <ivan> Regrets: Khalid
14:54:36 <pgroth> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me

Paul Groth: Zakim, [IPcaller] is me

14:54:36 <Zakim> +pgroth; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +pgroth; got it

14:54:42 <ivan> Regrets: Khalid, Luc
14:55:42 <ivan> zakim, code?

Ivan Herman: zakim, code?

14:55:42 <Zakim> the conference code is 7768 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7768 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan

14:56:50 <Zakim> +Ivan

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14:58:06 <Zakim> +??P6

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14:58:10 <Zakim> +??P0

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14:58:12 <dgarijo> Zakim, ??P6 is me

Daniel Garijo: Zakim, ??P6 is me

14:58:12 <Zakim> +dgarijo; got it

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14:58:19 <smiles> zakim, ??P0 is me

Simon Miles: zakim, ??P0 is me

14:58:19 <Zakim> +smiles; got it

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14:58:27 <pgroth> Topic: Admin

1. Admin

Summary: Minuters were approved

<pgroth> Summary: Minuters were approved
14:58:43 <Zakim> + +329331aaaa

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14:58:53 <TomDN> Zakim, +329 is me

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14:58:53 <Zakim> +TomDN; got it

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14:58:59 <TomDN> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

14:58:59 <Zakim> TomDN should now be muted

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14:59:14 <TomDN> yes

yes

14:59:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:59:29 <Paolo> zakim, [IPcaller] is me

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14:59:29 <Zakim> +Paolo; got it

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15:00:14 <Zakim> + +44.789.470.aabb

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15:01:17 <pgroth> Minutes of April 11, 2013 Telcon

Paul Groth: Minutes of April 11, 2013 Telcon

15:01:25 <TomDN> +1

+1

15:01:26 <Curt> 0 (not present)

Curt Tilmes: 0 (not present)

15:01:31 <dgarijo> +1

Daniel Garijo: +1

15:01:38 <TomDN> pgroth: vote on last week's minutes

Paul Groth: vote on last week's minutes

15:01:38 <Paolo> +1

Paolo Missier: +1

15:01:39 <smiles> +1

Simon Miles: +1

15:02:01 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:02:03 <zednik> +1

Stephan Zednik: +1

15:02:14 <pgroth> accepted: Minutes of April 11, 2013 Telcon

RESOLVED: Minutes of April 11, 2013 Telcon

15:02:31 <TomDN> pgroth: there are no action items

Paul Groth: there are no action items

15:02:39 <SamCoppens> zakim, I am with TomDN

Sam Coppens: zakim, I am with TomDN

15:02:39 <Zakim> +SamCoppens; got it

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15:02:40 <pgroth> Topic: All publications

2. All publications

Summary: All editors were reminded to stage their final version of documents and remove links to editor's drafts. Also editors were reminded to check the provenance of provenance.

<pgroth> Summary: All editors were reminded to stage their final version of documents and remove links to editor's drafts. Also editors were reminded to check the provenance of provenance.
15:02:50 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PublicationRequestApril30

Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PublicationRequestApril30

15:03:08 <TomDN> pgroth: All editors need to check if the staged version is on the publication request wiki page

Paul Groth: All editors need to check if the staged version is on the publication request wiki page

15:03:18 <TomDN> correct for prov-dictionary

correct for prov-dictionary

15:03:20 <Zakim> + +44.131.467.aacc

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15:03:28 <Zakim> + +238059aadd

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15:03:29 <jcheney> zakim, aacc is me

James Cheney: zakim, aacc is me

15:03:29 <Zakim> +jcheney; got it

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15:03:32 <smiles> checked correct for primer (at last week's telecon)

Simon Miles: checked correct for primer (at last week's telecon)

15:04:00 <TomDN> pgroth: Reminder to remove the links to editor's drafts in ALL final documents

Paul Groth: Reminder to remove the links to editor's drafts in ALL final documents

15:04:03 <dgarijo> removed from the dc note :)

Daniel Garijo: removed from the dc note :)

15:04:07 <stain> zakim, +44.789.470.aabb is me

Stian Soiland-Reyes: zakim, +44.789.470.aabb is me

15:04:07 <Zakim> +stain; got it

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15:04:09 <Dong> zakim, aadd is me

Trung Huynh: zakim, aadd is me

15:04:09 <Zakim> +Dong; got it

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15:04:15 <TomDN> ... please check before you stage

... please check before you stage

15:04:19 <Zakim> + +1.315.330.aaee

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15:04:29 <TomDN> pgroth: We've been going through typos, thanks.

Paul Groth: We've been going through typos, thanks.

15:04:31 <smiles> Yes

Simon Miles: Yes

15:04:40 <TomDN> ... Who has checked their provenance of provenance?

... Who has checked their provenance of provenance?

15:04:54 <TomDN> ... PROV-XML?

... PROV-XML?

15:05:04 <Zakim> + +1.818.731.aaff

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15:05:15 <ivan> zakim, who is here?

Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here?

15:05:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgroth, Ivan, dgarijo, smiles, TomDN (muted), Paolo, stain, Curt_Tilmes, [IPcaller], jcheney, Dong, +1.315.330.aaee, +1.818.731.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgroth, Ivan, dgarijo, smiles, TomDN (muted), Paolo, stain, Curt_Tilmes, [IPcaller], jcheney, Dong, +1.315.330.aaee, +1.818.731.aaff

15:05:16 <Zakim> TomDN has SamCoppens

Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN has SamCoppens

15:05:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see lebot, hook, SamCoppens, Dong, zednik, jcheney, Curt, Paolo, TomDN, dgarijo, smiles, pgroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, GK-ALT, stain, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see lebot, hook, SamCoppens, Dong, zednik, jcheney, Curt, Paolo, TomDN, dgarijo, smiles, pgroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, GK-ALT, stain, trackbot

15:05:17 <TomDN> zednik: I'll have to look

Stephan Zednik: I'll have to look

15:05:34 <pgroth> q?

Paul Groth: q?

15:05:39 <TomDN> ... timeframe?

... timeframe?

15:06:08 <TomDN> pgroth: Not really pressing, but would be great if it's done by the publication

Paul Groth: Not really pressing, but would be great if it's done by the publication

15:06:22 <TomDN> ... Not done yet for PROV-AQ and PROV-Overview

... Not done yet for PROV-AQ and PROV-Overview

15:06:27 <TomDN> ... PROV-DC?

... PROV-DC?

15:06:49 <TomDN> dgarijo: Added some rdfs, but haven't looked at Luc's document yet

Daniel Garijo: Added some rdfs, but haven't looked at Luc's document yet

15:06:59 <TomDN> pgroth: be sure to check Luc's provenance first

Paul Groth: be sure to check Luc's provenance first

15:07:07 <TomDN> not yet

not yet

15:07:28 <TomDN> Tom: PROV-Dictionary not looked at it yet

Tom De Nies: PROV-Dictionary not looked at it yet

15:07:40 <TomDN> jcheney: Not done yet for PROV-Sem

James Cheney: Not done yet for PROV-Sem

15:08:04 <dgarijo> +q

Daniel Garijo: +q

15:08:14 <TomDN> Dong: haven't looked at it yet for PROV-Implementations

Trung Huynh: haven't looked at it yet for PROV-Implementations

15:08:14 <pgroth> ack dgarijo

Paul Groth: ack dgarijo

15:09:06 <pgroth> q?

Paul Groth: q?

15:09:08 <TomDN> dgarijo: Is it the provenance descriptions on the mercurial repository?

Daniel Garijo: Is it the provenance descriptions on the mercurial repository?

15:09:12 <jcheney> luc's prov-sem stuff looks fine

James Cheney: luc's prov-sem stuff looks fine

15:09:13 <lebot> q+

Timothy Lebo: q+

15:09:23 <jcheney> https://github.com/lucmoreau/ProvToolbox/blob/newschema/prov-n/src/test/resources/prov/prov-family.provn

James Cheney: https://github.com/lucmoreau/ProvToolbox/blob/newschema/prov-n/src/test/resources/prov/prov-family.provn

15:09:25 <TomDN> pgroth: yes, we cna use those, unless you made some provenance yourself

Paul Groth: yes, we cna use those, unless you made some provenance yourself

15:09:38 <lebot> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/tip/provenance

Timothy Lebo: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/tip/provenance

15:09:47 <TomDN> lebot: Just want to make sure that the provenance directory in mercurial is the correct one

Timothy Lebo: Just want to make sure that the provenance directory in mercurial is the correct one

15:09:49 <pgroth> https://github.com/lucmoreau/ProvToolbox/blob/newschema/prov-n/src/test/resources/prov/prov-family.provn

Paul Groth: https://github.com/lucmoreau/ProvToolbox/blob/newschema/prov-n/src/test/resources/prov/prov-family.provn

15:10:13 <pgroth> ack lebot

Paul Groth: ack lebot

15:10:22 <pgroth> Topic: Prov-aq

3. Prov-aq

Summary: All issues have been addressed and Paul will stage document.

<pgroth> Summary: All issues have been addressed and Paul will stage document.
15:10:24 <TomDN> pgroth: That's where we put all the prov-of-prov, but James posted the one from Luc. (which is eventually find its way there)

Paul Groth: That's where we put all the prov-of-prov, but James posted the one from Luc. (which is eventually find its way there)

15:10:54 <TomDN> pgroth: Graham has been responding to remaining issues

Paul Groth: Graham has been responding to remaining issues

15:11:00 <TomDN> ... now up to me for staging

... now up to me for staging

15:11:02 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-DC

4. PROV-DC

Summary: Comments from Stian and Antoine were mostly addressed a couple of minor things remained to be done. The group agreed not to wait on subsequent comments from Antoine because they were well past the deadline for comments. Tim agreed to do a final grammar check on the document. The group voted to publish PROV-DC as a working group note.

<pgroth> Summary: Comments from Stian and Antoine were mostly addressed a couple of minor things remained to be done. The group agreed not to wait on subsequent comments from Antoine because they were well past the deadline for comments. Tim agreed to do a final grammar check on the document. The group voted to publish PROV-DC as a working group note.
15:11:25 <TomDN> dgarijo: Addressed most of Stian's and Antoine's comments

Daniel Garijo: Addressed most of Stian's and Antoine's comments

15:11:52 <TomDN> dgarijo: Would be nice if someone could have a final look, because of the large number of revisions made.

Daniel Garijo: Would be nice if someone could have a final look, because of the large number of revisions made.

15:12:19 <dgarijo> thx Tim!

Daniel Garijo: thx Tim!

15:12:20 <pgroth> tim to review prov-dc for grammar and stuff

Paul Groth: tim to review prov-dc for grammar and stuff

15:12:23 <TomDN> lebot: I'll do it. (grammar and syntax checking)

Timothy Lebo: I'll do it. (grammar and syntax checking)

15:12:41 <TomDN> pgroth: Any more comments?

Paul Groth: Any more comments?

15:12:43 <stain> I'm fine to vote

Stian Soiland-Reyes: I'm fine to vote

15:12:48 <TomDN> ... Blockers from the reviewers?

... Blockers from the reviewers?

15:13:23 <TomDN> dgarijo: Antoine will make some comments via email. Can we make changes after this vote?

Daniel Garijo: Antoine will make some comments via email. Can we make changes after this vote?

15:14:02 <stain> Antoine is not on the call now, is he?

Stian Soiland-Reyes: Antoine is not on the call now, is he?

15:14:12 <TomDN> pgroth: Only until final staging

Paul Groth: Only until final staging

15:14:24 <TomDN> ... after that, this is final release (Working Group Note)

... after that, this is final release (Working Group Note)

15:15:11 <TomDN> dgarijo: He hasn't suggested changes yet, but he was going to comment on the mapping via email.

Daniel Garijo: He hasn't suggested changes yet, but he was going to comment on the mapping via email.

15:15:37 <TomDN> pgroth: We already gave a long time to comment. I think it's enough.

Paul Groth: We already gave a long time to comment. I think it's enough.

15:15:50 <stain> +1 - unless he has already strongly voiced (or said he would voice) any particular blocking concern

Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 - unless he has already strongly voiced (or said he would voice) any particular blocking concern

15:15:54 <TomDN> ... If real issues arise, they can be handled in the errata/FAQ

... If real issues arise, they can be handled in the errata/FAQ

15:16:03 <stain> pgroth: does he not sit meters away from you..?

Paul Groth: does he not sit meters away from you..? [ Scribe Assist by Stian Soiland-Reyes ]

15:16:15 <TomDN> pgroth: Do you have the link for the document to vote on?

Paul Groth: Do you have the link for the document to vote on?

15:16:32 <TomDN> dgarijo: yes, it's the staged document (not the ED)

Daniel Garijo: yes, it's the staged document (not the ED)

15:16:52 <dgarijo> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/tip/dc-note/releases/NOTE-prov-dc-20130430/Overview.html#list_of_direct_mappings2

Daniel Garijo: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/tip/dc-note/releases/NOTE-prov-dc-20130430/Overview.html#list_of_direct_mappings2

15:17:08 <pgroth> q?

Paul Groth: q?

15:17:16 <dgarijo> I still have to push a couple of minor things, but that is the doc.

Daniel Garijo: I still have to push a couple of minor things, but that is the doc.

15:17:20 <pgroth> PROPOSED: to publish prov-dc as a Working Group note.

PROPOSED: to publish prov-dc as a Working Group note.

15:17:24 <stain> +1

Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1

15:17:28 <pgroth> +1

Paul Groth: +1

15:17:33 <Dong> +1

Trung Huynh: +1

15:17:34 <SamCoppens> +1

Sam Coppens: +1

15:17:35 <Paolo> +1

Paolo Missier: +1

15:17:35 <zednik> +1 (RPI)

Stephan Zednik: +1 (RPI)

15:17:35 <TomDN> +1

+1

15:17:36 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

15:17:40 <jcheney> +1

James Cheney: +1

15:17:41 <hook> +1

Hook Hua: +1

15:17:45 <smiles> +1

Simon Miles: +1

15:17:53 <Curt> +1

Curt Tilmes: +1

15:18:01 <stain> no, it's a  note

Stian Soiland-Reyes: no, it's a note

15:18:20 <pgroth> Accepted: to publish prov-dc as a Working Group note.

RESOLVED: to publish prov-dc as a Working Group note.

15:18:33 <TomDN> pgroth: Congratulations Daniel and Simon.

Paul Groth: Congratulations Daniel and Simon.

15:18:37 <dgarijo> :)

Daniel Garijo: :)

15:18:42 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-Dictionary

5. PROV-Dictionary

Summary: PROV-Dictionary was staged the group voted to publish it as a working group note.

<pgroth> Summary: PROV-Dictionary was staged the group voted to publish it as a working group note.
15:18:44 <smiles> Kai not me

Simon Miles: Kai not me

15:18:46 <TomDN> Zakim, unmute me

Zakim, unmute me

15:18:46 <Zakim> TomDN should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should no longer be muted

15:19:04 <TomDN> Tom: PROV-Dictionary staged

Tom De Nies: PROV-Dictionary staged

15:19:05 <TomDN> ... meets the pubrules as far as I can tell, and validates and passes the link-checker

... meets the pubrules as far as I can tell, and validates and passes the link-checker

15:19:07 <TomDN> ... All remaining issues pending review, want to close them, do we need a vote?

... All remaining issues pending review, want to close them, do we need a vote?

15:19:08 <TomDN> https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/products/19

https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/products/19

15:19:10 <TomDN> Tom: prov-n example needs to be validated.

Tom De Nies: prov-n example needs to be validated.

15:19:12 <TomDN> ... still todo: check provenance of PROV-Dictionary

... still todo: check provenance of PROV-Dictionary

15:19:13 <TomDN> Tom: Document to vote on: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/dictionary/releases/NOTE-prov-dictionary-20130430/Overview.html

Tom De Nies: Document to vote on: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/dictionary/releases/NOTE-prov-dictionary-20130430/Overview.html

15:20:00 <pgroth> q?

Paul Groth: q?

15:20:05 <TomDN> pgroth: Comments?

Paul Groth: Comments?

15:20:30 <pgroth>  PROPOSED: to publish prov-dictionary as a Working Group note.

Paul Groth: PROPOSED: to publish prov-dictionary as a Working Group note.

15:20:32 <TomDN> ... then we are ready to vote

... then we are ready to vote

15:20:37 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

15:20:38 <smiles> +1

Simon Miles: +1

15:20:39 <Curt> +1

Curt Tilmes: +1

15:20:40 <zednik> +1

Stephan Zednik: +1

15:20:40 <SamCoppens> +1

Sam Coppens: +1

15:20:40 <Paolo> +1

Paolo Missier: +1

15:20:43 <TomDN> +1 (!)

+1 (!)

15:20:44 <pgroth> +1

Paul Groth: +1

15:20:44 <stain> +1

Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1

15:20:46 <hook> +1

Hook Hua: +1

15:20:48 <Dong> +1

Trung Huynh: +1

15:20:48 <dgarijo> +1

Daniel Garijo: +1

15:20:53 <jcheney> +1

James Cheney: +1

15:21:14 <pgroth> Accepted: to publish prov-dictionary as a Working Group note.

RESOLVED: to publish prov-dictionary as a Working Group note.

15:21:33 <TomDN> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

15:21:33 <Zakim> TomDN should now be muted

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15:21:35 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-XML

6. PROV-XML

Summary: All comments have been addressed. The group voted to publish PROV-XML as working group note.

<pgroth> Summary: All comments have been addressed. The group voted to publish PROV-XML as working group note.
15:21:58 <TomDN> zednik: Got feedback from paul, luc and tom

Stephan Zednik: Got feedback from paul, luc, james and tom

15:22:17 <pgroth> q?

Paul Groth: q?

15:22:23 <TomDN> ... addressed everything, Editor's Draft is 99,99% finished.

... addressed everything, Editor's Draft is 99,99% finished.

15:22:32 <TomDN> ... Not staged yet, but will do soon

... Not staged yet, but will do soon

15:22:43 <TomDN> mine were all fine

mine were all fine

15:22:54 <Curt> Did you go through all of Luc's annotated pages, Stephan?

Curt Tilmes: Did you go through all of Luc's annotated pages, Stephan?

15:22:56 <TomDN> pgroth: All my comments were addressed.

Paul Groth: All my comments were addressed.

15:22:58 <jcheney> ok with me

James Cheney: ok with me

15:23:06 <pgroth> q?

Paul Groth: q?

15:23:10 <Zakim> + +1.661.382.aagg

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15:23:14 <zednik> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/tip/xml/prov-xml.html

Stephan Zednik: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/tip/xml/prov-xml.html

15:23:14 <Curt> I saw a bunch of recent changes, but didn't look over everything recently

Curt Tilmes: I saw a bunch of recent changes, but didn't look over everything recently

15:23:27 <TomDN> s/paul, luc and tom/paul, luc, james and tom
15:23:37 <pgroth>  PROPOSED: to publish prov-xml as a Working Group note.

Paul Groth: PROPOSED: to publish prov-xml as a Working Group note.

15:23:45 <Dong> +1

Trung Huynh: +1

15:23:46 <dgarijo> +1

Daniel Garijo: +1

15:23:47 <TomDN> +1

+1

15:23:47 <smiles> +1

Simon Miles: +1

15:23:50 <hook> +1

Hook Hua: +1

15:23:51 <Paolo> +1

Paolo Missier: +1

15:23:52 <jcheney> +1

James Cheney: +1

15:23:52 <Curt> +1

Curt Tilmes: +1

15:23:54 <SamCoppens> +1

Sam Coppens: +1

15:23:56 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

15:24:03 <zednik> +1 :-)

Stephan Zednik: +1 :-)

15:24:11 <stain> +1

Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1

15:24:46 <TomDN> pgroth: any other comments?

Paul Groth: any other comments?

15:24:50 <pgroth> Accepted: to publish prov-xml as a Working Group note.

RESOLVED: to publish prov-xml as a Working Group note.

15:25:10 <TomDN> pgroth: Congratulations Stephan, Curt and Hook!

Paul Groth: Congratulations Stephan, Curt and Hook!

15:25:14 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-Overview

7. PROV-Overview

Summary: Paul went over the changes in PROV-Overview. The group discussed whether we had met the recommendations set forth by the PROV Incubator Group. In James' review, he proposed that we had. There was consensus that PROV does indeed meet the recommendations. The group voted to publish PROV-Overview as a working group note.

<pgroth> Summary: Paul went over the changes in PROV-Overview. The group discussed whether we had met the recommendations set forth by the PROV Incubator Group. In James' review, he proposed that we had. There was consensus that PROV does indeed meet the recommendations. The group voted to publish PROV-Overview as a working group note.
15:25:20 <pgroth> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/overview/prov-overview.html

Paul Groth: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/overview/prov-overview.html

15:25:49 <TomDN> pgroth: made a few changes based on the received comments, thanks for those

Paul Groth: made a few changes based on the received comments, thanks for those

15:26:18 <TomDN> pgroth: made colors correspond to document roadmap and layout correspond to dependencies between the document.

Paul Groth: made colors correspond to document roadmap and layout correspond to dependencies between the document.

15:26:41 <dgarijo> yep

Daniel Garijo: yep

15:26:45 <TomDN> ... Also added core recommendations from the PROV Incubator Group, stating that we met all of them

... Also added core recommendations from the PROV Incubator Group, stating that we met all of them

15:26:53 <pgroth> q?

Paul Groth: q?

15:26:56 <TomDN> ... Any questions?

... Any questions?

15:28:01 <TomDN> pgroth: One thing to discuss was: Did we meet the requirements?

Paul Groth: One thing to discuss was: Did we meet the requirements?

15:28:10 <TomDN> ... There was one about accessing provenance.

... There was one about accessing provenance.

15:28:31 <pgroth> q?

Paul Groth: q?

15:28:35 <TomDN> ... Luc didn't think we met it, but James and I did because we have the extensibility.

... Luc didn't think we met it, but James and I did because we have the extensibility.

15:28:57 <TomDN> I think we certainly provide enough flexibility

I think we certainly provide enough flexibility

15:29:07 <pgroth> q?

Paul Groth: q?

15:29:12 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/XGR-prov-20101214/#Broad_Recommendations

Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/XGR-prov-20101214/#Broad_Recommendations

15:29:19 <smiles> Isn't PAQ quite agnostic to provenance format?

Simon Miles: Isn't PAQ quite agnostic to provenance format?

15:29:30 <Curt> "

Curt Tilmes: "

15:29:38 <TomDN> pgroth: Yes, the PROV-AQ is agnostic to format

Paul Groth: Yes, the PROV-AQ is agnostic to format

15:29:42 <Curt> "show include a mechanism" I think we meet

Curt Tilmes: "show include a mechanism" I think we meet

15:29:42 <dgarijo> we provide a mapping to vocabularies that define terms to define licenses (DC).

Daniel Garijo: we provide a mapping to vocabularies that define terms to define licenses (DC).

15:29:47 <Curt> "should"

Curt Tilmes: "should"

15:30:29 <dgarijo> no objections from my part.

Daniel Garijo: no objections from my part.

15:30:30 <jcheney> sounds good to me

James Cheney: sounds good to me

15:30:30 <smiles> Yes, I think we meet the requirement in a reasonable way

Simon Miles: Yes, I think we meet the requirement in a reasonable way

15:30:39 <TomDN> pgroth: So no objections to saying that we support this recommendation.

Paul Groth: So no objections to saying that we support this recommendation.

15:30:52 <pgroth> PROPOSED: to publish prov-overview as a Working Group note.

PROPOSED: to publish prov-overview as a Working Group note.

15:30:54 <dgarijo> +1

Daniel Garijo: +1

15:30:56 <SamCoppens> +1

Sam Coppens: +1

15:30:57 <smiles> +1

Simon Miles: +1

15:30:58 <TomDN> +1

+1

15:31:00 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

15:31:02 <jcheney> +1

James Cheney: +1

15:31:03 <hook> +1

Hook Hua: +1

15:31:03 <stain> +1

Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1

15:31:03 <Curt> +1

Curt Tilmes: +1

15:31:05 <pgroth> +1

Paul Groth: +1

15:31:13 <lebot> +1

Timothy Lebo: +1

15:31:17 <Paolo> +1

Paolo Missier: +1

15:31:20 <zednik> +1

Stephan Zednik: +1

15:31:30 <Dong> +1

Trung Huynh: +1

15:31:42 <pgroth> Accepted: to publish prov-overview as a Working Group note.

RESOLVED: to publish prov-overview as a Working Group note.

15:31:57 <TomDN> pgroth: I'll stage it somewhere this week

Paul Groth: I'll stage it somewhere this week

15:32:33 <dgarijo> +q

Daniel Garijo: +q

<pgroth> Topic: Promotion

8. Promotion

Summary: Daniel inquired if they could use current tutorial material in subsequent tutorials. The answer was yes (just keep the provenance).

<pgroth> Summary: Daniel inquired if they could use current tutorial material in subsequent tutorials. The answer was yes (just keep the provenance).
15:32:40 <TomDN> pgroth: We'll be looking into promotion for the standard once it's published

Paul Groth: We'll be looking into promotion for the standard once it's published

15:33:09 <TomDN> WWW2013 is May 12th, we should promote it there I think.

WWW2013 is May 12th, we should promote it there I think.

15:33:25 <TomDN> dgarijo: Can we reuse the blog material and such on other websites?

Daniel Garijo: Can we reuse the blog material and such on other websites?

15:33:33 <pgroth> q?

Paul Groth: q?

15:33:37 <pgroth> ack dgarijo

Paul Groth: ack dgarijo

15:33:41 <TomDN> pgroth: Yes, but keep the provenance of it ;)

Paul Groth: Yes, but keep the provenance of it ;)

15:33:48 <stain> how sad!

Stian Soiland-Reyes: how sad!

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15:34:04 <SamCoppens> Bye!

Sam Coppens: Bye!

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15:34:06 <Dong> bye all

Trung Huynh: bye all

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15:34:15 <Zakim> -Dong

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15:34:30 <pgroth> @ivan do you have time to chat?

Paul Groth: @ivan do you have time to chat?

15:34:43 <pgroth> rrsagent, set log public

Paul Groth: rrsagent, set log public

15:34:48 <pgroth> rrsagent, draft minutes

Paul Groth: rrsagent, draft minutes

15:34:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/18-prov-minutes.html pgroth

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15:34:53 <pgroth> trackbot, end telcon

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15:35:01 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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