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13:55:52 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
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13:55:52 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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13:55:53 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:55:55 <trackbot> Date: 16 August 2012
13:56:09 <bhyland> Agenda for today's call: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120816
Bernadette Hyland: Agenda for today's call: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120816 ←
13:58:15 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started
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13:58:16 <Zakim> + +91.80.49.07.aaaa
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13:59:07 <Zakim> +George_Thomas
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13:59:32 <Zakim> +David
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13:59:45 <bhyland> zakim, david is me
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, david is me ←
13:59:45 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it
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14:00:09 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who's here?
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here? ←
14:00:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see +91.80.49.07.aaaa, +49.721.aabb, George_Thomas, bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +91.80.49.07.aaaa, +49.721.aabb, George_Thomas, bhyland ←
14:00:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, Zakim, RRSAgent, George, bhyland, MacTed, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, Zakim, RRSAgent, George, bhyland, MacTed, trackbot, sandro ←
14:00:24 <Zakim> +hhalpin
Zakim IRC Bot: +hhalpin ←
14:00:30 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, aabb is BenediktKaempgen
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, aabb is BenediktKaempgen ←
14:00:30 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it ←
14:00:34 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who's here?
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here? ←
14:00:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see +91.80.49.07.aaaa, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, hhalpin
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +91.80.49.07.aaaa, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, hhalpin ←
14:00:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, Zakim, RRSAgent, George, bhyland, MacTed, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, Zakim, RRSAgent, George, bhyland, MacTed, trackbot, sandro ←
14:00:53 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?
John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see +91.80.49.07.aaaa, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, hhalpin
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +91.80.49.07.aaaa, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, hhalpin ←
14:00:57 <bhyland> zakim, aaaa is Biplav
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaaa is Biplav ←
14:00:58 <Zakim> +Biplav; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Biplav; got it ←
14:01:20 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:01:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see Biplav, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, hhalpin
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Biplav, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, hhalpin ←
14:01:22 <Zakim> +??P17
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P17 ←
14:01:34 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim ??p17 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim ??p17 is me ←
14:01:52 <BartvanLeeuwen> it is
Bart van Leeuwen: it is ←
14:02:01 <BartvanLeeuwen> but zakim doesn't react ?
Bart van Leeuwen: but zakim doesn't react ? ←
14:02:17 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p17 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p17 is me ←
14:02:17 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
14:02:51 <bhyland> anyone else looked at Fadi et al's pres, see http://www.slideshare.net/fadimaali/selfservice-linked-government-data
Bernadette Hyland: anyone else looked at Fadi et al's pres, see http://www.slideshare.net/fadimaali/selfservice-linked-government-data ←
14:03:06 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?
John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:03:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Biplav, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, hhalpin, BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Biplav, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, hhalpin, BartvanLeeuwen ←
14:03:08 <Zakim> +sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +sandro ←
14:03:13 <Zakim> +??P22
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22 ←
14:03:19 <BenediktKaempgen> George, do you want me to scribe?
Benedikt Kaempgen: George, do you want me to scribe? ←
14:03:23 <DaveReynolds> zakim, ??P22 is me
Dave Reynolds: zakim, ??P22 is me ←
14:03:23 <Zakim> +DaveReynolds; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +DaveReynolds; got it ←
14:03:49 <olyerickson> zakim, who is speaking?
John Erickson: zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:03:55 <BenediktKaempgen> Meeting: Telecon20120816
14:04:00 <Zakim> olyerickson, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (5%), hhalpin (80%), sandro (8%)
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (5%), hhalpin (80%), sandro (8%) ←
14:04:17 <BenediktKaempgen> Chair: George
14:04:29 <BenediktKaempgen> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120816
14:04:37 <olyerickson> zakim, hhalpin.
John Erickson: zakim, hhalpin. ←
14:04:37 <Zakim> I don't understand 'hhalpin', olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'hhalpin', olyerickson ←
14:04:38 <BenediktKaempgen> Scribe: Benedikt
(Scribe set to Benedikt Kaempgen)
14:04:50 <BenediktKaempgen> ScribeNick: BenediktKaempgen
14:05:02 <olyerickson> zakim, mute hhalpin.
John Erickson: zakim, mute hhalpin. ←
14:05:02 <Zakim> hhalpin should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: hhalpin should now be muted ←
14:05:12 <olyerickson> i'm talking
John Erickson: i'm talking ←
14:05:19 <bhyland> zakim, unmute hhalpin
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, unmute hhalpin ←
14:05:19 <Zakim> hhalpin should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: hhalpin should no longer be muted ←
14:05:24 <olyerickson> how do we switch then?
John Erickson: how do we switch then? ←
14:05:31 <Zakim> +[LC]
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14:05:31 <bhyland> zakim, hhalpin olyerickson
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, hhalpin olyerickson ←
14:05:33 <Zakim> I don't understand 'hhalpin olyerickson', bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'hhalpin olyerickson', bhyland ←
14:05:42 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me
Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me ←
14:05:42 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +tinagheen; got it ←
14:05:49 <bhyland> zakim, hhalpin is olyerickson
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, hhalpin is olyerickson ←
14:05:49 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it ←
14:06:03 <George> zakim, who is on the call?
George Thomas: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:06:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Biplav, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, olyerickson, BartvanLeeuwen, sandro, DaveReynolds, tinagheen
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Biplav, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, olyerickson, BartvanLeeuwen, sandro, DaveReynolds, tinagheen ←
14:06:10 <olyerickson> zakim, mute olyerickson.
John Erickson: zakim, mute olyerickson. ←
14:06:10 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted ←
14:07:01 <sandro> zakim, hhalpin is olyerickson
Sandro Hawke: zakim, hhalpin is olyerickson ←
14:07:01 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'hhalpin'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'hhalpin' ←
14:07:10 <BenediktKaempgen> TOPIC: TPAC & F2F?
14:07:19 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:07:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see Biplav, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, olyerickson (muted), BartvanLeeuwen, sandro, DaveReynolds, tinagheen
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Biplav, BenediktKaempgen, George_Thomas, bhyland, olyerickson (muted), BartvanLeeuwen, sandro, DaveReynolds, tinagheen ←
14:07:34 <BenediktKaempgen> Bart: Whether to have F2F at TPAC was not discussed. Will it happen? Unresolved.
Bart van Leeuwen: Whether to have F2F at TPAC was not discussed. Will it happen? Unresolved. ←
14:07:48 <BenediktKaempgen> George: No GLD f2f planned at TPAC
George Thomas: No GLD f2f planned at TPAC ←
14:07:55 <bhyland> Question from Bart: Did we make a definitive decision re: having our next F2F at TPAC?
Bernadette Hyland: Question from Bart: Did we make a definitive decision re: having our next F2F at TPAC? ←
14:08:23 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: who is going to TPAC?
Bernadette Hyland: who is going to TPAC? ←
14:09:08 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: I am planning to go.
Bernadette Hyland: I am planning to go. ←
14:09:11 <sandro> I expect to be at TPAC, the whole week
Sandro Hawke: I expect to be at TPAC, the whole week ←
14:09:17 <BenediktKaempgen> Bart: Going there, but not entire time.
Bart van Leeuwen: Going there, but not entire time. ←
14:09:31 <bhyland> Attending TPAC - Sandro, Bart, Bernadette …
Bernadette Hyland: Attending TPAC - Sandro, Bart, Bernadette … ←
14:10:36 <BenediktKaempgen> George, how about last minutes?
George, how about last minutes? ←
14:10:51 <BenediktKaempgen> TOPIC: Proposal to accept the 2012-07-26 minutes.
14:10:54 <olyerickson> +1 to minutes
John Erickson: +1 to minutes ←
14:11:00 <BenediktKaempgen> minutes are at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-07-26
minutes are at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-07-26 ←
14:11:04 <Zakim> +??P21
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14:11:13 <Yigal> zakim, ??p21 is me
Yigal Arens: zakim, ??p21 is me ←
14:11:13 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it ←
14:11:20 <BenediktKaempgen> minutes accepted
minutes accepted ←
14:11:35 <BenediktKaempgen> TOPIC: Linked Data Glossary update - Bernadette
14:11:27 <bhyland> See https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html
Bernadette Hyland: See https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html ←
14:12:08 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: if googling for "linked data glossary" nothing very useful is coming
Bernadette Hyland: if googling for "linked data glossary" nothing very useful is coming ←
14:13:31 <BenediktKaempgen> ... currently, there is no good result coming.
... currently, there is no good result coming. ←
14:14:05 <BenediktKaempgen> ... asked Tom Heath whether to look at current status of our glossary.
... asked Tom Heath whether to look at current status of our glossary. ←
14:14:26 <BenediktKaempgen> ... asked him to put up link to linkeddata.org, he agreed
... asked him to put up link to linkeddata.org, he agreed ←
14:14:53 <BenediktKaempgen> ... I assumes that it is possible to clean our current LD glossary in a week
... I assume that it is possible to clean our current LD glossary in a week ←
14:15:16 <BenediktKaempgen> s/assumes/assume/
14:15:53 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:15:53 <BenediktKaempgen> george: great idea to have a new version of glossary which is "approved" by Tom.
George Thomas: great idea to have a new version of glossary which is "approved" by Tom. ←
14:16:00 <olyerickson> unmute me.
John Erickson: unmute me. ←
14:16:04 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: tell me whether worth the effort?
Bernadette Hyland: tell me whether worth the effort? ←
14:16:11 <DaveReynolds> Seems like a good thing to do.
Dave Reynolds: Seems like a good thing to do. ←
14:16:15 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
John Erickson: zakim, unmute me. ←
14:16:15 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted ←
14:16:17 <tinagheen> yes, worth the effort
Tina Gheen: yes, worth the effort ←
14:17:15 <bhyland> I invite anyone on this call, in the group or our larger community to send Ghislain & me improved wording of definitions so we can publish a decent, useful, canonical glossary.
Bernadette Hyland: I invite anyone on this call, in the group or our larger community to send Ghislain & me improved wording of definitions so we can publish a decent, useful, canonical glossary. ←
14:17:38 <BenediktKaempgen> olyerickson: canonical glossary is important, if someone would be willing to work on it, that would be awesome.
John Erickson: canonical glossary is important, if someone would be willing to work on it, that would be awesome. ←
14:18:18 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: I want under w3c domain a decent LD glossary
Bernadette Hyland: I want under w3c domain a decent LD glossary ←
14:19:00 <Yigal> A google search brings up In the second position http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html
Yigal Arens: A google search brings up In the second position http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html ←
14:19:06 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 for having it under the w3c domain
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 for having it under the w3c domain ←
14:19:10 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: wants to know whether someone wants to add feedback to the current glossary.
Bernadette Hyland: wants to know whether someone wants to add feedback to the current glossary. ←
14:19:13 <olyerickson> Now I get it...thanks...apologies for missing the poit
John Erickson: Now I get it...thanks...apologies for missing the point ←
14:19:20 <olyerickson> s/poit/point/
14:19:39 <bhyland> no worries John, I'm sorry I wasn't clear in the beginning.
Bernadette Hyland: no worries John, I'm sorry I wasn't clear in the beginning. ←
14:20:02 <BenediktKaempgen> sandro: WG note would be more efficient but would be difficult to update
Sandro Hawke: WG note would be more efficient but would be difficult to update ←
14:20:44 <BenediktKaempgen> sandro: a wiki would be possible, too, but depending on what wiki is chosen, more or less people are possible to change it.
Sandro Hawke: a wiki would be possible, too, but depending on what wiki is chosen, more or less people are possible to change it. ←
14:21:12 <BartvanLeeuwen> +q
Bart van Leeuwen: +q ←
14:21:26 <BenediktKaempgen> sandro: question is whether only working group participant should change the glossary or all people that have an W3C account.
Sandro Hawke: question is whether only working group participant should change the glossary or all people that have an W3C account. ←
14:21:29 <bhyland> Agreed to speak to Ivan Herman, Semantic Web activity lead
Bernadette Hyland: Agreed to speak to Ivan Herman, Semantic Web activity lead ←
14:21:54 <DaveReynolds> I'd also advocate using the Wiki so its a community resource which can be maintained.
Dave Reynolds: I'd also advocate using the Wiki so its a community resource which can be maintained. ←
14:21:55 <bhyland> The semantic web wiki is here http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Main_Page
Bernadette Hyland: The semantic web wiki is here http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Main_Page ←
14:22:04 <BenediktKaempgen> Bart: Prefers solution where every W3C member can edit it
Bart van Leeuwen: Prefers solution where every W3C member can edit it ←
14:22:14 <BenediktKaempgen> ... otherwise it gets outdated, quickly.
... otherwise it gets outdated, quickly. ←
14:22:52 <Biplav> Biplav: prefers W3C member editing
Biplav Srivastava: prefers W3C member editing [ Scribe Assist by Biplav Srivastava ] ←
14:23:17 <BenediktKaempgen> ACTION: bhyland to ask Ivan and group about possible options for decent glossary location
ACTION: bhyland to ask Ivan and group about possible options for decent glossary location ←
14:23:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-74 - Ask Ivan and group about possible options for decent glossary location [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2012-08-23].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-74 - Ask Ivan and group about possible options for decent glossary location [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2012-08-23]. ←
14:24:14 <BenediktKaempgen> george: any chance that Tom updates its page according to our changes to LD glossary.
George Thomas: any chance that Tom updates its page according to our changes to LD glossary. ←
14:24:59 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:25:07 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: yes, if group is motivated enough to put some effort in it. Also, there is nothing against having several glossaries, e.g., another glossary by Tom.
Bernadette Hyland: yes, if group is motivated enough to put some effort in it. Also, there is nothing against having several glossaries, e.g., another glossary by Tom. ←
14:25:12 <George> ack BartvanLeeuwen
George Thomas: ack BartvanLeeuwen ←
14:25:36 <BenediktKaempgen> Topic: FPWD vocab progress
14:25:55 <olyerickson> Rec track reference: http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#rec-advance
John Erickson: Rec track reference: http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#rec-advance ←
14:26:09 <BenediktKaempgen> george: most progress on dcat (related to void)
George Thomas: most progress on dcat (related to void) ←
14:26:43 <BenediktKaempgen> ... Dave maybe put a possible date for another QB session
... Dave maybe put a possible date for another QB session ←
14:27:45 <BenediktKaempgen> ... open up for general discussion about the current status
... open up for general discussion about the current status ←
14:28:17 <BenediktKaempgen> sandro: getting the vocabularies to last call means that group has resolved all issues.
Sandro Hawke: getting the vocabularies to last call means that group has resolved all issues. ←
14:28:36 <BenediktKaempgen> ... then it can be reviewed by the more general public
... then it can be reviewed by the more general public ←
14:28:58 <bhyland> Here is the detail on Last Call Announcement, see http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr#last-call
Bernadette Hyland: Here is the detail on Last Call Announcement, see http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr#last-call ←
14:29:15 <BenediktKaempgen> ... if big changes are introduced, several last calls are possible.
... if big changes are introduced, several last calls are possible. ←
14:29:38 <bhyland> Note, "Duration of the review: The announcement begins a review period that SHOULD last at least three weeks but MAY last longer if the technical report is complex or has significant external dependencies."
Bernadette Hyland: Note, "Duration of the review: The announcement begins a review period that SHOULD last at least three weeks but MAY last longer if the technical report is complex or has significant external dependencies." ←
14:29:40 <BenediktKaempgen> ... we run the risk to be too narrow in the WG
... we run the risk to be too narrow in the WG ←
14:30:43 <BenediktKaempgen> george: dcat - how much community involvement do we need to get to consensus?
George Thomas: dcat - how much community involvement do we need to get to consensus? ←
14:31:11 <BenediktKaempgen> sandro: pretty good status. People had their chances to contribute.
Sandro Hawke: pretty good status. People had their chances to contribute. ←
14:31:40 <BenediktKaempgen> george: dcat to put in last call this fall should be possible
George Thomas: dcat to put in last call this fall should be possible ←
14:31:43 <BenediktKaempgen> sandro: yes
Sandro Hawke: yes ←
14:32:27 <olyerickson> Note, In addition to "People" isn't there "Location?" Or did we set that aside
John Erickson: Note, In addition to "People" isn't there "Location?" Or did we set that aside ←
14:32:45 <BenediktKaempgen> george: data-cube - what is the state here?
George Thomas: data-cube - what is the state here? ←
14:33:09 <BenediktKaempgen> DaveReynolds: Cube needs at least one more working draft.
Dave Reynolds: Cube needs at least one more working draft. ←
14:34:14 <BenediktKaempgen> ... regarding current issues, I think they are either out of scope or easy to resolve
... regarding current issues, I think they are either out of scope or easy to resolve ←
14:34:51 <BenediktKaempgen> ... there are lively discussions on new features, e.g., units of measures. I think there is no reason to change cube.
... there are lively discussions on new features, e.g., units of measures. I think there is no reason to change cube. ←
14:35:24 <BenediktKaempgen> ... there are efforts to have some cube+, with more OLAP features. But risk of scope-creep.
... there are efforts to have some cube+, with more OLAP features. But risk of scope-creep. ←
14:36:40 <BenediktKaempgen> ... aim would be to have over the next 1-2 months a cube session and create a new working draft, that is then put to last call for wider reviewing.
... aim would be to have over the next 1-2 months a cube session and create a new working draft, that is then put to last call for wider reviewing. ←
14:37:20 <olyerickson> For clarification, one of our grad students on PROV is asking questions/making suggestions wrt DataCube/PROV usage
John Erickson: For clarification, one of our grad students on PROV is asking questions/making suggestions wrt DataCube/PROV usage ←
14:37:58 <olyerickson> That's why DaveReynolds mentioned me ;)
John Erickson: That's why DaveReynolds mentioned me ;) ←
14:38:45 <BenediktKaempgen> george: regarding proposals for cube. Shall we settle dates for proposals done, reviewing, qb session etc.?
George Thomas: regarding proposals for cube. Shall we settle dates for proposals done, reviewing, qb session etc.? ←
14:39:15 <bhyland> q+
Bernadette Hyland: q+ ←
14:39:35 <BenediktKaempgen> DaveReynolds: prefers to have proposals out on mailing lists first, and then see the reactions. Then we would be more flexible.
Dave Reynolds: prefers to have proposals out on mailing lists first, and then see the reactions. Then we would be more flexible. ←
14:40:12 <BenediktKaempgen> ... What is the time frame for vocabs?
... What is the time frame for vocabs? ←
14:40:45 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: last call was scheduled for October 2012. We are some time behind.
Bernadette Hyland: last call was scheduled for October 2012. We are some time behind. ←
14:45:42 <BenediktKaempgen> george: taking the action to speak to Dave and Richard to settle dates for proposals and cube session, as soon as possible.
George Thomas: taking the action to speak to Dave and Richard to settle dates for proposals and cube session, as soon as possible. ←
14:45:57 <bhyland> My concern is that we published FPWD in early April. We got quite a bit of useful feedback in the following months. I have a bias to action to at least *try* to getting DCAT to by September.
Bernadette Hyland: My concern is that we published FPWD in early April. We got quite a bit of useful feedback in the following months. I have a bias to action to at least *try* to getting DCAT to by September. ←
14:46:19 <bhyland> Recognizing that we may have 1-2 last calls.
Bernadette Hyland: Recognizing that we may have 1-2 last calls. ←
14:46:37 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:46:42 <BenediktKaempgen> george: speaking about this topic in next chair telco.
George Thomas: speaking about this topic in next chair telco. ←
14:47:09 <bhyland> Dave: Suggests getting DCAT out to LC in next month.
Dave Reynolds: Suggests getting DCAT out to LC in next month. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:47:11 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
14:47:12 <BenediktKaempgen> DaveReynolds: get dcat last call out should be focus now
Dave Reynolds: get dcat last call out should be focus now ←
14:47:33 <bhyland> TOPIC: ORG vocab
14:47:54 <George> ack bhyland
George Thomas: ack bhyland ←
14:47:56 <bhyland> See http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Organizational_Structures
Bernadette Hyland: See http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Organizational_Structures ←
14:47:58 <BenediktKaempgen> DaveReynolds: Bart had use case to define organization independent of people.
Dave Reynolds: Bart had use case to define organization independent of people. ←
14:48:06 <bhyland> ED = http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/org/index.html
Bernadette Hyland: ED = http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/org/index.html ←
14:48:46 <bhyland> I'd like to propose that DCAT and Cube get to FC in September.
Bernadette Hyland: I'd like to propose that DCAT and Cube get to FC in September. ←
14:48:46 <BenediktKaempgen> ... there are other efforts (e.g., ADMS) that overlap with efforts which may lead with some confusion.
... there are other efforts (e.g., ADMS) that overlap with efforts which may lead with some confusion. ←
14:49:24 <bhyland> In fairness, we should consider ORG in context with ADMS organizational vocab (ISA Programme)
Bernadette Hyland: In fairness, we should consider ORG in context with ADMS organizational vocab (ISA Programme) ←
14:49:54 <BenediktKaempgen> ... it is important that vocabularies are compatible, e.g., org, people, ADMS.
... it is important that vocabularies are compatible, e.g., org, people, ADMS. ←
14:50:09 <BartvanLeeuwen> +q
Bart van Leeuwen: +q ←
14:50:35 <bhyland> q+
Bernadette Hyland: q+ ←
14:50:55 <BenediktKaempgen> Bart: Proposes to change org regarding to feedback and get a new version out.
Bart van Leeuwen: Proposes to change org regarding to feedback and get a new version out. ←
14:51:28 <bhyland> +1 to Bart
Bernadette Hyland: +1 to Bart ←
14:51:37 <BartvanLeeuwen> ack me
Bart van Leeuwen: ack me ←
14:51:43 <BenediktKaempgen> Bart: If changes are relatively easy, they should be done as soon as possible.
Bart van Leeuwen: If changes are relatively easy, they should be done as soon as possible. ←
14:52:09 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ack me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ack me ←
14:52:09 <Zakim> I see bhyland on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see bhyland on the speaker queue ←
14:52:54 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: risk of having only emotional discussions, but not bringing improvements to the people
Bernadette Hyland: risk of having only emotional discussions, but not bringing improvements to the people ←
14:54:01 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:54:03 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: ADMS seems to big to be thouroughly reviewed by WG
Bernadette Hyland: ADMS seems to big to be thouroughly reviewed by WG ←
14:54:06 <George> ack bhyland
George Thomas: ack bhyland ←
14:54:20 <DaveReynolds> q+
Dave Reynolds: q+ ←
14:54:29 <DaveReynolds> ack me
Dave Reynolds: ack me ←
14:55:21 <BenediktKaempgen> DaveReynolds: bigger issue is relation between ADMS and dcat. I do not think we need to review ADMS to make progress with org.
Dave Reynolds: bigger issue is relation between ADMS and dcat. I do not think we need to review ADMS to make progress with org. ←
14:55:25 <Biplav_> q+
Biplav Srivastava: q+ ←
14:56:17 <BenediktKaempgen> ... business part of ADMS seems a more independent part
... business part of ADMS seems a more independent part ←
14:56:34 <bhyland> DaveReynolds: ADMS underpins everything and thus have an impact on DCAT. The business vocabulary ISA Programme is not well understood by people on the call vis a vis connections with our vocabs in FPWD.
Dave Reynolds: ADMS underpins everything and thus have an impact on DCAT. The business vocabulary ISA Programme is not well understood by people on the call vis a vis connections with our vocabs in FPWD. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:56:43 <Biplav_> uncertainty
Biplav Srivastava: uncertainty ←
14:56:49 <BenediktKaempgen> Biplav_: Have we decided how to handle uncertainty?
Biplav Srivastava: Have we decided how to handle uncertainty? ←
14:57:11 <DaveReynolds> q+
Dave Reynolds: q+ ←
14:57:25 <DaveReynolds> ack me
Dave Reynolds: ack me ←
14:57:28 <BenediktKaempgen> Biplav: Example is accident with injured with people. There is inherent uncertainty here.
Biplav Srivastava: Example is accident with injured with people. There is inherent uncertainty here. ←
14:58:11 <bhyland> ORG has no concept of uncertainty. You can represent history over time, but at any given time, it is deterministic at a given interval.
Bernadette Hyland: ORG has no concept of uncertainty. You can represent history over time, but at any given time, it is deterministic at a given interval. ←
14:58:13 <BenediktKaempgen> DaveReynolds: regarding org uncertainty is not considered, since we deal with deterministic snapshots.
Dave Reynolds: regarding org uncertainty is not considered, since we deal with deterministic snapshots. ←
14:58:51 <Biplav_> Agreed - uncertainty in organization is hard to imagine.
Biplav Srivastava: Agreed - uncertainty in organization is hard to imagine. ←
14:58:58 <BenediktKaempgen> ... in data-cube uncertainty is a relevant issue and can be handled by qualitative attributes.
... in data-cube uncertainty is a relevant issue and can be handled by qualitative attributes. ←
14:59:47 <bhyland> Dave: Historic info captured by "historical information" component of ORG, see http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/org/index.html#historical-information
Dave Reynolds: Historic info captured by "historical information" component of ORG, see http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/org/index.html#historical-information [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:59:50 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:59:55 <George> ack Biplav_
George Thomas: ack Biplav_ ←
15:00:03 <BenediktKaempgen> Biplav_: Was expecting some concepts regarding uncertainty in general.
Biplav Srivastava: Was expecting some concepts regarding uncertainty in general. ←
15:00:13 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/urw3/XGR-urw3-20080331/ Uncertainty Reasoning for the World Wide Web
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/urw3/XGR-urw3-20080331/ Uncertainty Reasoning for the World Wide Web ←
15:00:23 <BenediktKaempgen> ... but sees Daves points.
... but sees Daves points. ←
15:00:39 <BenediktKaempgen> TOPIC: Upcoming Meeting Agenda Planning
15:01:09 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: topics will be best practices and community directory. Next steps.
Bernadette Hyland: topics will be best practices and community directory. Next steps. ←
15:01:52 <bhyland> See Scribes page for schedule and please volunteer to scribe :-) http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Scribes
Bernadette Hyland: See Scribes page for schedule and please volunteer to scribe :-) http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Scribes ←
15:01:53 <olyerickson> Thanks Leaders!
John Erickson: Thanks Leaders! ←
15:01:56 <DaveReynolds> bye all
Dave Reynolds: bye all ←
15:01:58 <Zakim> -tinagheen
Zakim IRC Bot: -tinagheen ←
15:02:00 <BartvanLeeuwen> bye
Bart van Leeuwen: bye ←
15:02:00 <Zakim> -bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland ←
15:02:01 <Zakim> -sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -sandro ←
15:02:01 <Zakim> -George_Thomas
Zakim IRC Bot: -George_Thomas ←
15:02:03 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds
Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds ←
15:02:04 <Zakim> -olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←
15:02:11 <Zakim> -Biplav
Zakim IRC Bot: -Biplav ←
15:02:11 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
15:02:11 <BenediktKaempgen> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
RRSAgent, set logs world-visible ←
15:02:11 <bhyland> Thanks all.
Bernadette Hyland: Thanks all. ←
15:02:19 <Zakim> -Yigal
Zakim IRC Bot: -Yigal ←
15:02:21 <BenediktKaempgen> RRSAgent, generate minutes
RRSAgent, generate minutes ←
15:02:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-gld-minutes.html BenediktKaempgen
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-gld-minutes.html BenediktKaempgen ←
15:02:36 <George> thanks BenediktKaempgen !!
George Thomas: thanks BenediktKaempgen !! ←
15:03:01 <BenediktKaempgen> no problem, thanks George
no problem, thanks George ←
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