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13:47:25 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
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13:47:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
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13:47:26 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:47:26 <trackbot> Date: 26 July 2012
13:50:05 <George> trackbot, start telecon
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13:50:10 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
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13:50:10 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
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13:50:11 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:50:11 <trackbot> Date: 26 July 2012
13:57:36 <PhilA> zakim, this will be GLD
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13:57:36 <Zakim> ok, PhilA; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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13:57:48 <HadleyBeeman> Hi, PhilA!
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13:57:56 <PhilA> hi Hadley.
Phil Archer: hi Hadley. ←
13:58:04 <PhilA> I'm with Rufus & co this aftrernoon
Phil Archer: I'm with Rufus & co this aftrernoon ←
13:58:10 <HadleyBeeman> How are things? I feel like I haven't seen you for ages.
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13:58:17 <HadleyBeeman> Oh, hello to Rufus and co as well!
Hadley Beeman: Oh, hello to Rufus and co as well! ←
13:58:29 <PhilA> It's been a while. Things OK - looking forward to hols v soon
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13:58:46 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started
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13:58:53 <Zakim> +??P5
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13:58:54 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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13:59:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P5 is me
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13:59:03 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
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13:59:03 <PhilA> zakim, code?
Phil Archer: zakim, code? ←
13:59:04 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA
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13:59:06 <olyerickson> zakim, ?p5 is me.
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13:59:06 <Zakim> sorry, olyerickson, I do not recognize a party named '?p5'
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13:59:08 <Zakim> +GeraldSteeman
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13:59:13 <Zakim> +fadmaa
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13:59:24 <olyerickson> zakim, ??p5 is me.
John Erickson: zakim, ??p5 is me. ←
13:59:24 <Zakim> I already had ??P5 as BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson
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13:59:31 <Zakim> +George_Thomas
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13:59:44 <fadmaa> Zakim, who is here
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13:59:44 <Zakim> fadmaa, you need to end that query with '?'
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13:59:45 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen
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13:59:50 <fadmaa> Zakim, who is here?
Fadi Maali: Zakim, who is here? ←
13:59:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen ←
13:59:50 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone
John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone ←
13:59:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, olyerickson, danbri,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, olyerickson, danbri, ←
13:59:52 <Zakim> ... trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot, sandro ←
13:59:52 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is on the phone', olyerickson ←
14:00:07 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?
John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen ←
14:00:15 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me ←
14:00:15 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
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14:00:18 <olyerickson> zakim, I am ipcaller
John Erickson: zakim, I am ipcaller ←
14:00:18 <Zakim> ok, olyerickson, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, olyerickson, I now associate you with [IPcaller] ←
14:00:25 <Zakim> +??P13
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13 ←
14:00:34 <Zakim> +??P11
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11 ←
14:00:42 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
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14:00:52 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who's here?
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here? ←
14:00:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa (muted), George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen, ??P13, ??P11, HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa (muted), George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen, ??P13, ??P11, HadleyBeeman ←
14:00:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, olyerickson,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, olyerickson, ←
14:00:54 <Zakim> ... danbri, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... danbri, trackbot, sandro ←
14:00:57 <martinAlvarez> zakim, ??p13 is me
Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??p13 is me ←
14:00:59 <Zakim> +martinAlvarez; got it
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14:01:07 <Zakim> +??P16
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14:01:12 <olyerickson> scribe: olyerickson
(Scribe set to John Erickson)
14:01:14 <martinAlvarez> zakim, mute me
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14:01:17 <Zakim> martinAlvarez should now be muted
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14:01:30 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas ←
14:01:40 <olyerickson> topic: attendance
14:01:49 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with me
Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cygri is with me ←
14:01:49 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
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14:01:51 <Zakim> +sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +sandro ←
14:02:00 <olyerickson> PhilA is with Rufus et.al. from OKFN
PhilA is with Rufus et.al. from OKFN ←
14:02:03 <PhilA> zakim, who am I?
Phil Archer: zakim, who am I? ←
14:02:03 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, PhilA.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, PhilA. ←
14:02:15 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen ←
14:02:17 <George> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-06-28
George Thomas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-06-28 ←
14:02:20 <PhilA> zakim, ??P16 is me
Phil Archer: zakim, ??P16 is me ←
14:02:20 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it
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14:02:21 <fadmaa> +1
Fadi Maali: +1 ←
14:02:26 <olyerickson> topic: minutes from previous meeting (28 June)
14:02:27 <PhilA> zakim, mute me
Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←
14:02:27 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←
14:03:00 <olyerickson> george: minutes accepted
George Thomas: minutes accepted ←
14:03:04 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen ←
14:03:11 <olyerickson> topic: new attendees?
14:03:12 <PhilA> zakim, I have Rufus Pollock
Phil Archer: zakim, I have Rufus Pollock ←
14:03:12 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I have Rufus Pollock', PhilA
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'I have Rufus Pollock', PhilA ←
14:03:14 <mhausenblas> http://blog.schema.org/2012/07/describing-datasets-with-schemaorg.html is a positive step, indeed - thanks danbri
Michael Hausenblas: http://blog.schema.org/2012/07/describing-datasets-with-schemaorg.html is a positive step, indeed - thanks danbri ←
14:03:25 <olyerickson> * no apparent new attendees
* no apparent new attendees ←
14:03:28 <Zakim> +gatemezin
Zakim IRC Bot: +gatemezin ←
14:03:34 <olyerickson> topic: announcements
14:03:42 <PhilA> zakim, PhilA has Rufus
Phil Archer: zakim, PhilA has Rufus ←
14:03:42 <Zakim> +Rufus; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Rufus; got it ←
14:03:42 <olyerickson> 1. PROV in last call
1. PROV in last call ←
14:04:03 <PhilA> present+ Rufus Pollock
Phil Archer: present+ Rufus Pollock ←
14:04:07 <olyerickson> * george as had a look
* george as had a look ←
14:04:12 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to going through the provenance work
Hadley Beeman: +1 to going through the provenance work ←
14:04:17 <olyerickson> * would be good for GLD to talk in future
* would be good for GLD to talk in future ←
14:04:17 <PhilA> zakim, unmute me
Phil Archer: zakim, unmute me ←
14:04:17 <Zakim> PhilA should no longer be muted
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14:04:24 <olyerickson> topic: DCAT
14:04:41 <olyerickson> * thanks to Rufus for feedback/comments
* thanks to Rufus for feedback/comments ←
14:04:57 <olyerickson> * thanks to Ed Summers (Ed, are you on call)?
* thanks to Ed Summers (Ed, are you on call)? ←
14:05:06 <Zakim> +[LC]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[LC] ←
14:05:14 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me
Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me ←
14:05:14 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +tinagheen; got it ←
14:05:48 <olyerickson> I told Zakim...
I told Zakim... ←
14:05:59 <olyerickson> ;)
;) ←
14:06:00 <atemezin> zakim, who is here?
Ghislain Atemezing: zakim, who is here? ←
14:06:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa (muted), George_Thomas, martinAlvarez (muted), DaveReynolds, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, mhausenblas, sandro,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa (muted), George_Thomas, martinAlvarez (muted), DaveReynolds, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, mhausenblas, sandro, ←
14:06:03 <Zakim> ... BenediktKaempgen, gatemezin, tinagheen
Zakim IRC Bot: ... BenediktKaempgen, gatemezin, tinagheen ←
14:06:03 <Zakim> PhilA has Rufus
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA has Rufus ←
14:06:03 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri ←
14:06:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see tinagheen, atemezin, cygri, GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see tinagheen, atemezin, cygri, GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, ←
14:06:06 <Zakim> ... martinAlvarez, olyerickson, danbri, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... martinAlvarez, olyerickson, danbri, trackbot, sandro ←
14:06:21 <olyerickson> rufus & PhilA DCAT
rufus & PhilA DCAT ←
14:07:00 <Zakim> +rsingh2
Zakim IRC Bot: +rsingh2 ←
14:07:06 <PhilA> -> http://spec.datacatalogs.org/ OKFN spec
Phil Archer: -> http://spec.datacatalogs.org/ OKFN spec ←
14:07:19 <olyerickson> rufus: "hkh dskjfh *(*)( kjdhfkjd..."
Rufus Pollock: "hkh dskjfh *(*)( kjdhfkjd..." ←
14:08:12 <George> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2012Jul/0016.html
George Thomas: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2012Jul/0016.html ←
14:08:34 <olyerickson> rufus: ??? spec is for harvesting, etc
Rufus Pollock: ??? spec is for harvesting, etc ←
14:09:14 <olyerickson> * two components: spec for catalogs to conform to, protocol for harvesting
* two components: spec for catalogs to conform to, protocol for harvesting ←
14:09:38 <olyerickson> * has spoken with Fadi and PhilA
* has spoken with Fadi and PhilA ←
14:09:44 <mhausenblas> Michael: Just FYI, I've added an data catalogs use case the Linked Data Platform WG Wiki (both ADMS-based and what Rufus is talking about), see -> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements#Data_catalogs
Michael Hausenblas: Just FYI, I've added an data catalogs use case the Linked Data Platform WG Wiki (both ADMS-based and what Rufus is talking about), see -> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements#Data_catalogs [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ] ←
14:09:54 <olyerickson> * has offered suggestions w.r.t. DCAT
* has offered suggestions w.r.t. DCAT ←
14:10:51 <olyerickson> * reminder that CKAN is about aggregation, that has been the focus for CKAN spec (and protocol)
* reminder that CKAN is about aggregation, that has been the focus for CKAN spec (and protocol) ←
14:11:23 <olyerickson> PhilA: hopes we can hear (barely...)
Phil Archer: hopes we can hear (barely...) ←
14:11:34 <olyerickson> * to keep conversation short...
* to keep conversation short... ←
14:11:56 <olyerickson> * Rufus & PhilA have thought about difference in purpose between specs
* Rufus & PhilA have thought about difference in purpose between specs ←
14:12:27 <olyerickson> * Particular desire with CKAN spec to specify "required" vs "optional"
* Particular desire with CKAN spec to specify "required" vs "optional" ←
14:13:20 <atemezin> Actually, is it common usage to specify "optional" in vocabs design?
Ghislain Atemezing: Actually, is it common usage to specify "optional" in vocabs design? ←
14:13:21 <olyerickson> * wrt protocol/API, need to "park" discussion
* wrt protocol/API, need to "park" discussion ←
14:13:46 <olyerickson> george: likes "member submission protocol" idea
George Thomas: likes "member submission protocol" idea ←
14:14:00 <olyerickson> * not sure about "conformance" question
* not sure about "conformance" question ←
14:14:25 <olyerickson> * other issues that Rufus/PhilA want to jump into?
* other issues that Rufus/PhilA want to jump into? ←
14:14:46 <olyerickson> Rufus: bullet 4: distribution
Rufus Pollock: bullet 4: distribution ←
14:15:14 <fadmaa> the current diagram http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/dcat-model.jpg
Fadi Maali: the current diagram http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/dcat-model.jpg ←
14:15:14 <olyerickson> * superclass vs subclass
* superclass vs subclass ←
14:16:12 <olyerickson> PhilA: API is a way to access...but many datasets aren't available for access that way
Phil Archer: API is a way to access...but many datasets aren't available for access that way ←
14:16:42 <George> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9
George Thomas: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9 ←
14:16:44 <olyerickson> * but makes sense to have "distribution" as a resource that can be elaborated upon
* but makes sense to have "distribution" as a resource that can be elaborated upon ←
14:17:32 <olyerickson> * PhilA: in favor of having a resource, and having distribution as a sub-class (specialization) of that
* PhilA: in favor of having a resource, and having distribution as a sub-class (specialization) of that ←
14:17:45 <olyerickson> GEorge: Fadi? cygri?
George Thomas: Fadi? cygri? ←
14:17:58 <olyerickson> cygri: its complicated...many issues to consider
Richard Cyganiak: its complicated...many issues to consider ←
14:18:08 <olyerickson> * forget for a moment history
* forget for a moment history ←
14:18:15 <olyerickson> * forget about current use
* forget about current use ←
14:18:21 <olyerickson> * focus on what really makes sense
* focus on what really makes sense ←
14:18:37 <olyerickson> * agrees that "distribution" is unfortunate
* agrees that "distribution" is unfortunate ←
14:18:58 <olyerickson> * concept exists on many data catalogs but isn't usually named as such
* concept exists on many data catalogs but isn't usually named as such ←
14:19:26 <olyerickson> * origins of name: simply due to the hisoty of CKAN, might not make much sense otherwise
* origins of name: simply due to the hisoty of CKAN, might not make much sense otherwise ←
14:19:44 <PhilA> Resource or DatasetResource
Phil Archer: Resource or DatasetResource ←
14:19:50 <PhilA> (from Rufus)
Phil Archer: (from Rufus) ←
14:19:53 <olyerickson> * w.r.t. "resource," not too happy about the term, too overloaded
* w.r.t. "resource," not too happy about the term, too overloaded ←
14:20:07 <olyerickson> * In RDF, resource has a specific meaning
* In RDF, resource has a specific meaning ←
14:20:15 <olyerickson> * in webarch, a slightly different maning
* in webarch, a slightly different maning ←
14:20:19 <PhilA> Rufus: dcat:DatasetResource ?
Rufus Pollock: dcat:DatasetResource ? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:20:29 <olyerickson> * in DCAT, a possible third different maning
* in DCAT, a possible third different maning ←
14:20:46 <olyerickson> * raises the question: how are dataset and resource different?
* raises the question: how are dataset and resource different? ←
14:21:10 <olyerickson> * w.r.t. webarch, dataset is *already* a resource
* w.r.t. webarch, dataset is *already* a resource ←
14:21:28 <olyerickson> * how then are things "under" dataset resources?
* how then are things "under" dataset resources? ←
14:21:33 <PhilA> Rufus: +1 on API, Download/File etc but we need superclass ...
Rufus Pollock: +1 on API, Download/File etc but we need superclass ... [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:21:38 <olyerickson> * May need more specific terms
* May need more specific terms ←
14:22:38 <olyerickson> rufus: this sort of repetition already happens
Rufus Pollock: this sort of repetition already happens ←
14:23:01 <olyerickson> * remove ambiguity by defining the hierarchy
* remove ambiguity by defining the hierarchy ←
14:23:12 <olyerickson> cygri: how about doing it without the superclass?
Richard Cyganiak: how about doing it without the superclass? ←
14:23:36 <PhilA> fine - what then is the name for the property :-) e.g. dcat:resource or dcat:distribution
Phil Archer: fine - what then is the name for the property :-) e.g. dcat:resource or dcat:distribution ←
14:23:52 <PhilA> we relocate the question to properties from classes ...
Phil Archer: we relocate the question to properties from classes ... ←
14:24:14 <olyerickson> cygri: (thinking out loud) only have specific sub-classes, no superclass
Richard Cyganiak: (thinking out loud) only have specific sub-classes, no superclass ←
14:24:20 <olyerickson> * already have shared property
* already have shared property ←
14:24:43 <olyerickson> * even if we don't have the superclass, we still have the commonality
* even if we don't have the superclass, we still have the commonality ←
14:24:43 <PhilA> but that property should be renamed (sorry not clearer about that ...)
Phil Archer: but that property should be renamed (sorry not clearer about that ...) ←
14:24:51 <PhilA> if dcat:Distribution renamed so would property
Phil Archer: if dcat:Distribution renamed so would property ←
14:24:52 <olyerickson> * makes documentation a bit confusing
* makes documentation a bit confusing ←
14:25:08 <olyerickson> * still need to explain/provide guidance
* still need to explain/provide guidance ←
14:25:13 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:25:25 <cygri> cygri: ditch superclass, rename property to something like dcat:associatedResource?
Richard Cyganiak: ditch superclass, rename property to something like dcat:associatedResource? [ Scribe Assist by Richard Cyganiak ] ←
14:25:27 <PhilA> dcat:distribution -> dcat:resource (or dcat:datasetResource)
Phil Archer: dcat:distribution -> dcat:resource (or dcat:datasetResource) ←
14:25:38 <PhilA> cygri: understood - that sounds good ...
Phil Archer: cygri understood - that sounds good ... ←
14:25:43 <PhilA> (Rufus)
Phil Archer: (Rufus) ←
14:26:04 <PhilA> s/cygri:/cygri/
14:26:50 <PhilA> Rufus: +1 on dcat:associatedResource
Rufus Pollock: +1 on dcat:associatedResource [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:28:22 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:28:22 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted ←
14:28:32 <PhilA> please repeat last point olyerickson -missed it
Phil Archer: please repeat last point olyerickson -missed it ←
14:28:36 <olyerickson> did any of that make sense?
did any of that make sense? ←
14:29:00 <olyerickson> fadmaa: one more option
Fadi Maali: one more option ←
14:29:02 <cygri> olyerickson: i'm opposed to making any reference to "required" parts of the spec
John Erickson: i'm opposed to making any reference to "required" parts of the spec [ Scribe Assist by Richard Cyganiak ] ←
14:29:16 <olyerickson> * accessURL and...
* accessURL and... ←
14:29:20 <olyerickson> * downloadURL
* downloadURL ←
14:29:41 <Zakim> -rsingh2
Zakim IRC Bot: -rsingh2 ←
14:29:55 <olyerickson> * downloadURL used only if provider is sure it is downloadable
* downloadURL used only if provider is sure it is downloadable ←
14:30:13 <olyerickson> rufus: problem with locating addition information
Rufus Pollock: problem with locating addition information ←
14:31:01 <olyerickson> cygri: What is the proposal on the table now?
Richard Cyganiak: What is the proposal on the table now? ←
14:31:16 <olyerickson> rufus: leave classes as they are
Rufus Pollock: leave classes as they are ←
14:31:36 <olyerickson> (sorry that was fadmaa)
(sorry that was fadmaa) ←
14:31:52 <olyerickson> * downloadURL points to downloadable dataset file
* downloadURL points to downloadable dataset file ←
14:31:53 <cygri> zakim, who is noisy?
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is noisy? ←
14:32:02 <PhilA> zakim, mute me
Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←
14:32:02 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←
14:32:04 <Zakim> cygri, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (14%), George_Thomas (13%), PhilA (57%), gatemezin (4%)
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (14%), George_Thomas (13%), PhilA (57%), gatemezin (4%) ←
14:32:23 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
14:32:29 <olyerickson> * accessURL merely...um...access point
* accessURL merely...um...access point ←
14:32:35 <olyerickson> cygri: Doesn't see it
Richard Cyganiak: Doesn't see it ←
14:32:41 <olyerickson> * can't see the distinction
* can't see the distinction ←
14:33:08 <olyerickson> * if we know it's a download, don't see what we would need separate "access" URL
* if we know it's a download, don't see what we would need separate "access" URL ←
14:33:21 <olyerickson> * doesn't think we would want to provide two
* doesn't think we would want to provide two ←
14:33:30 <olyerickson> * thus why make distinction?
* thus why make distinction? ←
14:33:42 <atemezin> +1 not to making the difference btw "download" and "access"-URL
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 not to making the difference btw "download" and "access"-URL ←
14:33:48 <olyerickson> * seems simpler to have a flag e.g. accessType
* seems simpler to have a flag e.g. accessType ←
14:34:05 <olyerickson> * target URL and a type
* target URL and a type ←
14:34:14 <PhilA> Rufus is nodding his heada in violent agreement
Phil Archer: Rufus is nodding his heada in violent agreement ←
14:34:19 <olyerickson> fadmaa: now that cygri says it that way, not so convinced...
Fadi Maali: now that cygri says it that way, not so convinced... ←
14:34:26 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me ←
14:34:26 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted ←
14:34:29 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
14:34:40 <olyerickson> George: Are we back to "associated resource?"
George Thomas: Are we back to "associated resource?" ←
14:35:09 <olyerickson> PhilA: +1 on "associated resource" (or is that Rufus?)
Phil Archer: +1 on "associated resource" (or is that Rufus?) ←
14:35:31 <PhilA> Rufus + PhilA are happy
Phil Archer: Rufus + PhilA are happy ←
14:35:36 <olyerickson> * Rufus and PhilA are happy (together...)
* Rufus and PhilA are happy (together...) ←
14:35:38 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:35:38 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted ←
14:35:53 <PhilA> zakim, mute me
Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←
14:35:53 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←
14:35:53 <cygri> ISSUE-9?
14:35:53 <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- dcat:Distribution and its subclasses are unnecessary -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-9 -- dcat:Distribution and its subclasses are unnecessary -- raised ←
14:35:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9 ←
14:35:56 <olyerickson> George: How does this happiness reflect on our status?
George Thomas: How does this happiness reflect on our status? ←
14:36:37 <PhilA> Rufus happy with Richard proposal to abolish superclass and use property
Phil Archer: Rufus happy with Richard proposal to abolish superclass and use property ←
14:36:47 <PhilA> but also happy to keep and rename ...
Phil Archer: but also happy to keep and rename ... ←
14:37:09 <George> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/7
George Thomas: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/7 ←
14:37:13 <olyerickson> cygri: thinks Ed's point under original issue was "access url" could be (directly) the URI of the distribution resource
Richard Cyganiak: thinks Ed's point under original issue was "access url" could be (directly) the URI of the distribution resource ←
14:37:22 <PhilA> This is me - cygri is singing my tune :-)
Phil Archer: This is me - cygri is singing my tune :-) ←
14:37:24 <George> ISSUE-7
14:37:29 <George> ISSUE-7?
14:37:29 <trackbot> ISSUE-7 -- Drop dcat:accessUrl, use the URI of the dcat:Download resource instead -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-7 -- Drop dcat:accessUrl, use the URI of the dcat:Download resource instead -- raised ←
14:37:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/7
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/7 ←
14:37:58 <olyerickson> fadmaa: confirms: Ed's issue was, why not just use the URI
Fadi Maali: confirms: Ed's issue was, why not just use the URI ←
14:38:01 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:38:10 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
14:38:17 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
14:39:12 <olyerickson> PhilA: Hates conflation of access URI/distribution URI (please explain)
Phil Archer: Hates conflation of access URI/distribution URI (please explain) ←
14:40:17 <olyerickson> * if URIs are forever, one doesn't need an access URL because URI will suffice
* if URIs are forever, one doesn't need an access URL because URI will suffice ←
14:40:28 <fadmaa> this is Ed's original post: http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/issues/38
Fadi Maali: this is Ed's original post: http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/issues/38 ←
14:40:32 <PhilA> zakim, mute me
Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←
14:40:32 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←
14:41:29 <PhilA> I have accessURL but it seems to be practical and necessary for a lot of people so, reluctantly, I have to come down on the side of keeping it. Ref. ADMS, chat woth cygri and Rufus today
Phil Archer: I hate accessURL but it seems to be practical and necessary for a lot of people so, reluctantly, I hate to come down on the side of keeping it. Ref. ADMS, chat woth cygri and Rufus today ←
14:41:36 <PhilA> s/have/hate/
14:42:03 <PhilA> I hate accessURL but it seems to be practical and necessary for a lot of people so, reluctantly, I have to come down on the side of keeping it. Ref. ADMS, chat woth cygri and Rufus today
Phil Archer: I hate accessURL but it seems to be practical and necessary for a lot of people so, reluctantly, I have to come down on the side of keeping it. Ref. ADMS, chat woth cygri and Rufus today ←
14:42:21 <PhilA> zakim, unmute me
Phil Archer: zakim, unmute me ←
14:42:21 <Zakim> PhilA should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should no longer be muted ←
14:42:38 <PhilA> zakim, mute me
Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←
14:42:38 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←
14:42:52 <olyerickson> Looks like PhilA restated it (and it's how I understood him)
Looks like PhilA restated it (and it's how I understood him) ←
14:43:28 <olyerickson> cygri: What do we need a subclass that says "this is a download," etc
Richard Cyganiak: What do we need a subclass that says "this is a download," etc ←
14:43:35 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
14:43:41 <olyerickson> * why can we just describe what kind of a thing it is via properties?
* why can we just describe what kind of a thing it is via properties? ←
14:43:58 <PhilA> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
14:44:15 <PhilA> Rufus +1
Phil Archer: Rufus +1 ←
14:44:22 <olyerickson> * thinks it is helpful to have rich set of subclasses to help client "understand" what is available/what can be done
* thinks it is helpful to have rich set of subclasses to help client "understand" what is available/what can be done ←
14:45:03 <olyerickson> * if there is info attached that say "this is a download" etc is useful
* if there is info attached that say "this is a download" etc is useful ←
14:45:31 <olyerickson> * but is in favor of accomplishing this clarification with structure of subclasses
* but is in favor of accomplishing this clarification with structure of subclasses ←
14:45:55 <olyerickson> * bottom line: do it through subclasses or do it with properties?
* bottom line: do it through subclasses or do it with properties? ←
14:46:15 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
14:46:24 <olyerickson> George: Back to Rufus & PhilA
George Thomas: Back to Rufus & PhilA ←
14:47:06 <olyerickson> rufus: avoid doing it as a hack
Rufus Pollock: avoid doing it as a hack ←
14:47:25 <olyerickson> * having distinct subclasses is preferred
* having distinct subclasses is preferred ←
14:47:50 <olyerickson> * happy for superclass to be there, happy for it to go...
* happy for superclass to be there, happy for it to go... ←
14:48:07 <PhilA> Rufus "subclasses" (distinct classes) is a very good idea
Phil Archer: Rufus "subclasses" (distinct classes) is a very good idea ←
14:48:37 <cygri> so, drop dcat:Distribution superclass; keep subclasses; rename dcat:distribution property to dcat:associatedResource?
Richard Cyganiak: so, drop dcat:Distribution superclass; keep subclasses; rename dcat:distribution property to dcat:associatedResource? ←
14:48:43 <PhilA> happy for super class to go if we retain discuss classes "dcat:Download" etc
Phil Archer: happy for super class to go if we retain discuss classes "dcat:Download" etc ←
14:48:43 <olyerickson> PhilA: conscious of time; will try to send email to come to resolution
Phil Archer: conscious of time; will try to send email to come to resolution ←
14:49:01 <PhilA> Rufus +1 to cygri proposal
Phil Archer: Rufus +1 to cygri proposal ←
14:49:02 <olyerickson> suggestion: examples might be good
suggestion: examples might be good ←
14:49:16 <PhilA> zakim, mute me
Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←
14:49:16 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←
14:49:30 <olyerickson> George: Recap and clarification would be appreciated
George Thomas: Recap and clarification would be appreciated ←
14:49:56 <olyerickson> I would be happy with enything that is clear and is extensible
I would be happy with enything that is clear and is extensible ←
14:50:08 <PhilA> action: PhilA to summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not
ACTION: PhilA to summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not ←
14:50:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-73 - Summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not [on Phil Archer - due 2012-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-73 - Summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not [on Phil Archer - due 2012-08-02]. ←
14:50:14 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
14:50:19 <olyerickson> olyerickson's concern is adding confusion for adopters
olyerickson's concern is adding confusion for adopters ←
14:50:32 <olyerickson> topic: "What this means" (PhilA)
14:50:51 <olyerickson> * these vocabs are on the "rec track"
* these vocabs are on the "rec track" ←
14:51:09 <PhilA> Rufus (from email) Clarify "conformance". Suggest either removal (is it relevant for
Phil Archer: Rufus (from email) Clarify "conformance". Suggest either removal (is it relevant for ←
14:51:10 <PhilA> vocabs?) or phrasing as: "Conformance means using terms from this
Phil Archer: vocabs?) or phrasing as: "Conformance means using terms from this ←
14:51:10 <PhilA> vocabulary whenever they are relevant"
Phil Archer: vocabulary whenever they are relevant" ←
14:51:12 <olyerickson> * does it make sense to have a "conformance statement"
* does it make sense to have a "conformance statement" ←
14:51:20 <olyerickson> * if so, what is it intended to do?
* if so, what is it intended to do? ←
14:51:26 <PhilA> (apologies for line breaks!)
Phil Archer: (apologies for line breaks!) ←
14:51:38 <olyerickson> * mostly we mean, "please do not re-invent these terms"
* mostly we mean, "please do not re-invent these terms" ←
14:52:07 <PhilA> zakim, mute me
Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←
14:52:07 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←
14:52:15 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
14:52:16 <olyerickson> * For DCAT, is it appropriate to have conformance statement, and of so what should it say?
* For DCAT, is it appropriate to have conformance statement, and of so what should it say? ←
14:52:32 <DaveReynolds> Isn't conformance about interop? If every application does it's own profile then there's no interop.
Dave Reynolds: Isn't conformance about interop? If every application does it's own profile then there's no interop. ←
14:52:33 <olyerickson> George: wants Sandro to weigh in?
George Thomas: wants Sandro to weigh in? ←
14:52:59 <Zakim> -tinagheen
Zakim IRC Bot: -tinagheen ←
14:53:00 <olyerickson> Sandro: Has been thinking, likes Rufus's comments in email earlier
Sandro Hawke: Has been thinking, likes Rufus's comments in email earlier ←
14:53:27 <olyerickson> * conformance clauses are there to keep people on track
* conformance clauses are there to keep people on track ←
14:53:47 <olyerickson> * the more precise people are, the more helpful
* the more precise people are, the more helpful ←
14:53:53 <olyerickson> cygri: agrees with Sandro'
Richard Cyganiak: agrees with Sandro' ←
14:54:02 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:54:11 <olyerickson> * unclear what it means to conform (unlike many other specs)
* unclear what it means to conform (unlike many other specs) ←
14:54:28 <olyerickson> Q+
Q+ ←
14:54:55 <olyerickson> zakim, I am [ipcaller]
zakim, I am [ipcaller] ←
14:54:55 <Zakim> ok, olyerickson, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, olyerickson, I now associate you with [IPcaller] ←
14:55:25 <olyerickson> * can we add conformance/non-conformance in the spec (reasonably)?
* can we add conformance/non-conformance in the spec (reasonably)? ←
14:55:30 <olyerickson> * how to make it work?
* how to make it work? ←
14:55:44 <olyerickson> * much easier with a protocol than e.g. a vocabulary
* much easier with a protocol than e.g. a vocabulary ←
14:57:27 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:57:34 <George> ack olyerickson
George Thomas: ack olyerickson ←
14:57:40 <PhilA> An idea: "The nature of a vocabulary is that each person's use is likely to be different. However, inclusion of a term in this vocabulary is in indication that the community sees it as being important and/or useful!
Phil Archer: An idea: "The nature of a vocabulary is that each person's use is likely to be different. However, inclusion of a term in this vocabulary is in indication that the community sees it as being important and/or useful! ←
14:57:48 <George> ack [IPcaller]
George Thomas: ack [IPcaller] ←
14:57:57 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.
zakim, mute me. ←
14:57:57 <Zakim> [IPcaller] should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: [IPcaller] should now be muted ←
14:58:08 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
14:58:16 <olyerickson> Sandro: not much experience w.r.t. "comformance"
Sandro Hawke: not much experience w.r.t. "comformance" ←
14:58:40 <George> DCAT conformance means that a provider uses the entire DCAT vocabulary when publishing catalog and dataset metadata.
George Thomas: DCAT conformance means that a provider uses the entire DCAT vocabulary when publishing catalog and dataset metadata. ←
14:59:01 <olyerickson> Rufus: Please explain what DCAT spec means when it (currently) refers to conformance
Rufus Pollock: Please explain what DCAT spec means when it (currently) refers to conformance ←
14:59:10 <sandro> sandro: I don't know of any cases in the industry where people have had difficulties around conformance with a vocabulary, so it's hard to know what problems to address.
Sandro Hawke: I don't know of any cases in the industry where people have had difficulties around conformance with a vocabulary, so it's hard to know what problems to address. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:59:33 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
14:59:43 <olyerickson> * DCAT spec currently says, conformance means using it all.
* DCAT spec currently says, conformance means using it all. ←
14:59:44 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:59:58 <cygri> +1 to rufus, the current wording is not good
Richard Cyganiak: +1 to rufus, the current wording is not good ←
14:59:59 <PhilA> zakim, mute me
Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←
15:00:00 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←
15:00:08 <olyerickson> George: We have a lot to work on w.r.t. "conformance"
George Thomas: We have a lot to work on w.r.t. "conformance" ←
15:00:26 <olyerickson> * protocol usage might inform/guide
* protocol usage might inform/guide ←
15:00:36 <olyerickson> topic: Wrap Up
15:00:45 <martinAlvarez> q+
Martín Álvarez: q+ ←
15:00:49 <olyerickson> * thanks to olyerickson for typing
* thanks to olyerickson for typing ←
15:00:56 <PhilA> Rufus thank-you!
Phil Archer: Rufus thank-you! ←
15:01:04 <olyerickson> * thanks to Rufus & PhilA for recent work on this
* thanks to Rufus & PhilA for recent work on this ←
15:01:08 <PhilA> I'll send some follow up mails/issues
Phil Archer: I'll send some follow up mails/issues ←
15:01:08 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds
Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds ←
15:01:10 <martinAlvarez> zakim, unmute me
Martín Álvarez: zakim, unmute me ←
15:01:11 <mhausenblas> Thanks!
Michael Hausenblas: Thanks! ←
15:01:12 <Zakim> martinAlvarez should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: martinAlvarez should no longer be muted ←
15:01:14 <olyerickson> * thanks everyone for productive call
* thanks everyone for productive call ←
15:01:17 <HadleyBeeman> +q
Hadley Beeman: +q ←
15:01:25 <olyerickson> martinAlvarez: Remark (informative)
Martín Álvarez: Remark (informative) ←
15:01:31 <cygri> thanks for joining Rufus!
Richard Cyganiak: thanks for joining Rufus! ←
15:01:43 <atemezin> Thanks Rufus for your comments...
Ghislain Atemezing: Thanks Rufus for your comments... ←
15:01:45 <olyerickson> * currently in charge of recommendation for Spanish govt
* currently in charge of recommendation for Spanish govt ←
15:01:53 <olyerickson> * al levels of govt
* al levels of govt ←
15:02:08 <olyerickson> * guidance on publishing govt data using DCAT
* guidance on publishing govt data using DCAT ←
15:02:19 <olyerickson> * would like it in a stable format
* would like it in a stable format ←
15:02:39 <cygri> martinAlvarez, what's the timeline on this?
Richard Cyganiak: martinAlvarez, what's the timeline on this? ←
15:02:42 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
15:02:43 <olyerickson> George: Encouraged to collaborate on GLD cubmission
George Thomas: Encouraged to collaborate on GLD cubmission ←
15:02:45 <martinAlvarez> zakim, mute me
Martín Álvarez: zakim, mute me ←
15:02:45 <Zakim> martinAlvarez should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: martinAlvarez should now be muted ←
15:02:49 <George> ack martinAlvarez
George Thomas: ack martinAlvarez ←
15:02:54 <olyerickson> HadleyBeeman: hard to hear
Hadley Beeman: hard to hear ←
15:02:56 <PhilA> Rufus: would like to work with martinAlvarez on that!
Rufus Pollock: would like to work with martinAlvarez on that! [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
15:03:04 <olyerickson> * been thinking about data discivery
* been thinking about data discivery ←
15:03:09 <martinAlvarez> Please, Rufus :-)
Martín Álvarez: Please, Rufus :-) ←
15:03:16 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
15:03:17 <olyerickson> * any thoughts on discovery et.al.
* any thoughts on discovery et.al. ←
15:03:26 <George> ack HadleyBeeman
George Thomas: ack HadleyBeeman ←
15:03:35 <olyerickson> PhilA: repeat question
Phil Archer: repeat question ←
15:03:40 <olyerickson> HadleyBeeman: as been brainstorming
Hadley Beeman: as been brainstorming ←
15:03:47 <olyerickson> * what behaviors are assumed
* what behaviors are assumed ←
15:04:01 <olyerickson> * behaviors w.r.t. interacting with datasets
* behaviors w.r.t. interacting with datasets ←
15:04:32 <olyerickson> PhilA: This is pertinent w.r.t. the protocol/API work currently being done at CKAN
Phil Archer: This is pertinent w.r.t. the protocol/API work currently being done at CKAN ←
15:04:33 <HadleyBeeman> I should look to the definition of an API work that Rufus is doing? (to confirm)
Hadley Beeman: I should look to the definition of an API work that Rufus is doing? (to confirm) ←
15:04:35 <cygri> HadleyBeeman, there are some thoughts here: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html
Richard Cyganiak: HadleyBeeman, there are some thoughts here: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html ←
15:05:44 <HadleyBeeman> Sounds like we should all talk more. Thanks, Rufus, PhilA and cygri!
Hadley Beeman: Sounds like we should all talk more. Thanks, Rufus, PhilA and cygri! ←
15:05:46 <PhilA> zakim, mute me
Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←
15:05:46 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←
15:05:46 <cygri> thanks all!
Richard Cyganiak: thanks all! ←
15:05:49 <olyerickson> George: End with massive +1
George Thomas: End with massive +1 ←
15:05:49 <HadleyBeeman> Cheers, all!
Hadley Beeman: Cheers, all! ←
15:05:55 <olyerickson> I don't know how to close this out
I don't know how to close this out ←
15:05:57 <PhilA> bye all
Phil Archer: bye all ←
15:06:03 <olyerickson> can someone help????
can someone help???? ←
15:06:04 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas ←
15:06:06 <Zakim> -fadmaa
Zakim IRC Bot: -fadmaa ←
15:06:08 <Zakim> -GeraldSteeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -GeraldSteeman ←
15:06:10 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks.
Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks. ←
15:06:12 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
15:06:15 <Zakim> -PhilA
Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA ←
15:06:16 <Zakim> -sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -sandro ←
15:06:18 <Zakim> -martinAlvarez
Zakim IRC Bot: -martinAlvarez ←
15:06:18 <atemezin> rrsagent, bye
Ghislain Atemezing: rrsagent, bye ←
15:06:18 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/26-gld-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/26-gld-actions.rdf : ←
15:06:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: PhilA to summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not [1]
ACTION: PhilA to summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not [1] ←
15:06:18 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/26-gld-irc#T14-50-08
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/26-gld-irc#T14-50-08 ←
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