Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 26 July 2012

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Bart van Leeuwen, Benedikt Kaempgen, Dave Reynolds, Fadi Maali, George Thomas, Gerald Steeman, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, John Erickson, Martín Álvarez, Michael Hausenblas, Phil Archer, Raj Singh, Richard Cyganiak, Rufus Pollock, Sandro Hawke, Tina Gheen
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Rufus Pollock
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John Erickson
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13:47:26 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:47:26 <trackbot> Date: 26 July 2012
13:50:05 <George> trackbot, start telecon

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13:50:10 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD

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13:50:11 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:50:11 <trackbot> Date: 26 July 2012
13:57:36 <PhilA> zakim, this will be GLD

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13:57:36 <Zakim> ok, PhilA; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes

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13:57:48 <HadleyBeeman> Hi, PhilA!

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13:57:56 <PhilA> hi Hadley.

Phil Archer: hi Hadley. ←

13:58:04 <PhilA> I'm with Rufus & co this aftrernoon

Phil Archer: I'm with Rufus & co this aftrernoon ←

13:58:10 <HadleyBeeman> How are things? I feel like I haven't seen you for ages.

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13:58:17 <HadleyBeeman> Oh, hello to Rufus and co as well!

Hadley Beeman: Oh, hello to Rufus and co as well! ←

13:58:29 <PhilA> It's been a while. Things OK - looking forward to hols v soon

Phil Archer: It's been a while. Things OK - looking forward to hols v soon ←

13:58:46 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started

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13:58:53 <Zakim> +??P5

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13:58:54 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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13:59:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P5 is me

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13:59:03 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

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13:59:03 <PhilA> zakim, code?

Phil Archer: zakim, code? ←

13:59:04 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA

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13:59:06 <olyerickson> zakim, ?p5 is me.

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13:59:06 <Zakim> sorry, olyerickson, I do not recognize a party named '?p5'

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13:59:08 <Zakim> +GeraldSteeman

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13:59:13 <Zakim> +fadmaa

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13:59:24 <olyerickson> zakim, ??p5 is me.

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13:59:24 <Zakim> I already had ??P5 as BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson

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13:59:31 <Zakim> +George_Thomas

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13:59:44 <fadmaa> Zakim, who is here

Fadi Maali: Zakim, who is here ←

13:59:44 <Zakim> fadmaa, you need to end that query with '?'

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13:59:45 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen

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13:59:50 <fadmaa> Zakim, who is here?

Fadi Maali: Zakim, who is here? ←

13:59:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen ←

13:59:50 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone

John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone ←

13:59:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, olyerickson, danbri,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, olyerickson, danbri, ←

13:59:52 <Zakim> ... trackbot, sandro

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13:59:52 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', olyerickson

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14:00:07 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?

John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone? ←

14:00:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen ←

14:00:15 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me ←

14:00:15 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted

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14:00:18 <olyerickson> zakim, I am ipcaller

John Erickson: zakim, I am ipcaller ←

14:00:18 <Zakim> ok, olyerickson, I now associate you with [IPcaller]

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14:00:25 <Zakim> +??P13

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14:00:34 <Zakim> +??P11

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11 ←

14:00:42 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←

14:00:52 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who's here?

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here? ←

14:00:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa (muted), George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen, ??P13, ??P11, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa (muted), George_Thomas, BenediktKaempgen, ??P13, ??P11, HadleyBeeman ←

14:00:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, olyerickson,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, martinAlvarez, olyerickson, ←

14:00:54 <Zakim> ... danbri, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... danbri, trackbot, sandro ←

14:00:57 <martinAlvarez> zakim, ??p13 is me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??p13 is me ←

14:00:59 <Zakim> +martinAlvarez; got it

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14:01:07 <Zakim> +??P16

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14:01:12 <olyerickson> scribe: olyerickson

(Scribe set to John Erickson)

14:01:14 <martinAlvarez> zakim, mute me

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14:01:17 <Zakim> martinAlvarez should now be muted

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14:01:30 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

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14:01:40 <olyerickson> topic: attendance

1. attendance

14:01:49 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cygri is with me ←

14:01:49 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

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14:01:51 <Zakim> +sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +sandro ←

14:02:00 <olyerickson> PhilA is with Rufus et.al. from OKFN

PhilA is with Rufus et.al. from OKFN ←

14:02:03 <PhilA> zakim, who am I?

Phil Archer: zakim, who am I? ←

14:02:03 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, PhilA.

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14:02:15 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen ←

14:02:17 <George> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-06-28

George Thomas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-06-28 ←

14:02:20 <PhilA> zakim, ??P16 is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ??P16 is me ←

14:02:20 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it

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14:02:21 <fadmaa> +1

Fadi Maali: +1 ←

14:02:26 <olyerickson> topic: minutes from previous meeting (28 June)

2. minutes from previous meeting (28 June)

14:02:27 <PhilA> zakim, mute me

Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←

14:02:27 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted

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14:03:00 <olyerickson> george: minutes accepted

George Thomas: minutes accepted ←

14:03:04 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen ←

14:03:11 <olyerickson> topic: new attendees?

3. new attendees?

14:03:12 <PhilA> zakim, I have Rufus Pollock

Phil Archer: zakim, I have Rufus Pollock ←

14:03:12 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I have Rufus Pollock', PhilA

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14:03:14 <mhausenblas> http://blog.schema.org/2012/07/describing-datasets-with-schemaorg.html is a positive step, indeed - thanks danbri

Michael Hausenblas: http://blog.schema.org/2012/07/describing-datasets-with-schemaorg.html is a positive step, indeed - thanks danbri ←

14:03:25 <olyerickson> * no apparent new attendees

* no apparent new attendees ←

14:03:28 <Zakim> +gatemezin

Zakim IRC Bot: +gatemezin ←

14:03:34 <olyerickson> topic: announcements

4. announcements

14:03:42 <PhilA> zakim, PhilA has Rufus

Phil Archer: zakim, PhilA has Rufus ←

14:03:42 <Zakim> +Rufus; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Rufus; got it ←

14:03:42 <olyerickson> 1. PROV in last call

1. PROV in last call ←

14:04:03 <PhilA> present+ Rufus Pollock

Phil Archer: present+ Rufus Pollock ←

14:04:07 <olyerickson> * george as had a look

* george as had a look ←

14:04:12 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to going through the provenance work

Hadley Beeman: +1 to going through the provenance work ←

14:04:17 <olyerickson> * would be good for GLD to talk in future

* would be good for GLD to talk in future ←

14:04:17 <PhilA> zakim, unmute me

Phil Archer: zakim, unmute me ←

14:04:17 <Zakim> PhilA should no longer be muted

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14:04:24 <olyerickson> topic: DCAT

5. DCAT

14:04:41 <olyerickson> * thanks to Rufus for feedback/comments

* thanks to Rufus for feedback/comments ←

14:04:57 <olyerickson> * thanks to Ed Summers (Ed, are you on call)?

* thanks to Ed Summers (Ed, are you on call)? ←

14:05:06 <Zakim> +[LC]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[LC] ←

14:05:14 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me

Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me ←

14:05:14 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +tinagheen; got it ←

14:05:48 <olyerickson> I told Zakim...

I told Zakim... ←

14:05:59 <olyerickson> ;)

;) ←

14:06:00 <atemezin> zakim, who is here?

Ghislain Atemezing: zakim, who is here? ←

14:06:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa (muted), George_Thomas, martinAlvarez (muted), DaveReynolds, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, mhausenblas, sandro,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, [IPcaller], GeraldSteeman, fadmaa (muted), George_Thomas, martinAlvarez (muted), DaveReynolds, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, mhausenblas, sandro, ←

14:06:03 <Zakim> ... BenediktKaempgen, gatemezin, tinagheen

Zakim IRC Bot: ... BenediktKaempgen, gatemezin, tinagheen ←

14:06:03 <Zakim> PhilA has Rufus

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA has Rufus ←

14:06:03 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri ←

14:06:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see tinagheen, atemezin, cygri, GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see tinagheen, atemezin, cygri, GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DaveReynolds, PhilA, mhausenblas, HadleyBeeman, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, ←

14:06:06 <Zakim> ... martinAlvarez, olyerickson, danbri, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... martinAlvarez, olyerickson, danbri, trackbot, sandro ←

14:06:21 <olyerickson> rufus & PhilA DCAT

rufus & PhilA DCAT ←

14:07:00 <Zakim> +rsingh2

Zakim IRC Bot: +rsingh2 ←

14:07:06 <PhilA> -> http://spec.datacatalogs.org/ OKFN spec

Phil Archer: -> http://spec.datacatalogs.org/ OKFN spec ←

14:07:19 <olyerickson> rufus: "hkh dskjfh  *(*)( kjdhfkjd..."

Rufus Pollock: "hkh dskjfh *(*)( kjdhfkjd..." ←

14:08:12 <George> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2012Jul/0016.html

George Thomas: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2012Jul/0016.html ←

14:08:34 <olyerickson> rufus: ??? spec is for harvesting, etc

Rufus Pollock: ??? spec is for harvesting, etc ←

14:09:14 <olyerickson> * two components: spec for catalogs to conform to, protocol for harvesting

* two components: spec for catalogs to conform to, protocol for harvesting ←

14:09:38 <olyerickson> * has spoken with Fadi and PhilA

* has spoken with Fadi and PhilA ←

14:09:44 <mhausenblas> Michael: Just FYI, I've added an data catalogs use case the Linked Data Platform WG Wiki (both ADMS-based and what Rufus is talking about), see -> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements#Data_catalogs

Michael Hausenblas: Just FYI, I've added an data catalogs use case the Linked Data Platform WG Wiki (both ADMS-based and what Rufus is talking about), see -> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements#Data_catalogs [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ] ←

14:09:54 <olyerickson> * has offered suggestions w.r.t. DCAT

* has offered suggestions w.r.t. DCAT ←

14:10:51 <olyerickson> * reminder that CKAN is about aggregation, that has been the focus for CKAN spec (and protocol)

* reminder that CKAN is about aggregation, that has been the focus for CKAN spec (and protocol) ←

14:11:23 <olyerickson> PhilA: hopes we can hear (barely...)

Phil Archer: hopes we can hear (barely...) ←

14:11:34 <olyerickson> * to keep conversation short...

* to keep conversation short... ←

14:11:56 <olyerickson> * Rufus & PhilA have thought about difference in purpose between specs

* Rufus & PhilA have thought about difference in purpose between specs ←

14:12:27 <olyerickson> * Particular desire with CKAN spec to specify "required" vs "optional"

* Particular desire with CKAN spec to specify "required" vs "optional" ←

14:13:20 <atemezin> Actually, is it common usage to specify "optional" in vocabs design?

Ghislain Atemezing: Actually, is it common usage to specify "optional" in vocabs design? ←

14:13:21 <olyerickson> * wrt protocol/API, need to "park" discussion

* wrt protocol/API, need to "park" discussion ←

14:13:46 <olyerickson> george: likes "member submission protocol" idea

George Thomas: likes "member submission protocol" idea ←

14:14:00 <olyerickson> * not sure about "conformance" question

* not sure about "conformance" question ←

14:14:25 <olyerickson> * other issues that Rufus/PhilA want to jump into?

* other issues that Rufus/PhilA want to jump into? ←

14:14:46 <olyerickson> Rufus: bullet 4: distribution

Rufus Pollock: bullet 4: distribution ←

14:15:14 <fadmaa> the current diagram http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/dcat-model.jpg

Fadi Maali: the current diagram http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/dcat-model.jpg ←

14:15:14 <olyerickson> * superclass vs subclass

* superclass vs subclass ←

14:16:12 <olyerickson> PhilA: API is a way to access...but many datasets aren't available for access that way

Phil Archer: API is a way to access...but many datasets aren't available for access that way ←

14:16:42 <George> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9

George Thomas: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9 ←

14:16:44 <olyerickson> * but makes sense to have "distribution" as a resource that can be elaborated upon

* but makes sense to have "distribution" as a resource that can be elaborated upon ←

14:17:32 <olyerickson> * PhilA: in favor of having a resource, and having distribution as a sub-class (specialization) of that

* PhilA: in favor of having a resource, and having distribution as a sub-class (specialization) of that ←

14:17:45 <olyerickson> GEorge: Fadi? cygri?

George Thomas: Fadi? cygri? ←

14:17:58 <olyerickson> cygri: its complicated...many issues to consider

Richard Cyganiak: its complicated...many issues to consider ←

14:18:08 <olyerickson> * forget for a moment history

* forget for a moment history ←

14:18:15 <olyerickson> * forget about current use

* forget about current use ←

14:18:21 <olyerickson> * focus on what really makes sense

* focus on what really makes sense ←

14:18:37 <olyerickson> * agrees that "distribution" is unfortunate

* agrees that "distribution" is unfortunate ←

14:18:58 <olyerickson> * concept exists on many data catalogs but isn't usually named as such

* concept exists on many data catalogs but isn't usually named as such ←

14:19:26 <olyerickson> * origins of name: simply due to the hisoty of CKAN, might not make much sense otherwise

* origins of name: simply due to the hisoty of CKAN, might not make much sense otherwise ←

14:19:44 <PhilA> Resource or DatasetResource

Phil Archer: Resource or DatasetResource ←

14:19:50 <PhilA> (from Rufus)

Phil Archer: (from Rufus) ←

14:19:53 <olyerickson> * w.r.t. "resource," not too happy about the term, too overloaded

* w.r.t. "resource," not too happy about the term, too overloaded ←

14:20:07 <olyerickson> * In RDF, resource has a specific meaning

* In RDF, resource has a specific meaning ←

14:20:15 <olyerickson> * in webarch, a slightly different maning

* in webarch, a slightly different maning ←

14:20:19 <PhilA> Rufus:  dcat:DatasetResource ?

Rufus Pollock: dcat:DatasetResource ? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

14:20:29 <olyerickson> * in DCAT, a possible third different maning

* in DCAT, a possible third different maning ←

14:20:46 <olyerickson> * raises the question: how are dataset and resource different?

* raises the question: how are dataset and resource different? ←

14:21:10 <olyerickson> * w.r.t. webarch, dataset is *already* a resource

* w.r.t. webarch, dataset is *already* a resource ←

14:21:28 <olyerickson> * how then are things "under" dataset resources?

* how then are things "under" dataset resources? ←

14:21:33 <PhilA> Rufus: +1 on API, Download/File etc but we need superclass ...

Rufus Pollock: +1 on API, Download/File etc but we need superclass ... [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

14:21:38 <olyerickson> * May need more specific terms

* May need more specific terms ←

14:22:38 <olyerickson> rufus: this sort of repetition already happens

Rufus Pollock: this sort of repetition already happens ←

14:23:01 <olyerickson> * remove ambiguity by defining the hierarchy

* remove ambiguity by defining the hierarchy ←

14:23:12 <olyerickson> cygri: how about doing it without the superclass?

Richard Cyganiak: how about doing it without the superclass? ←

14:23:36 <PhilA> fine - what then is the name for the property :-) e.g. dcat:resource or dcat:distribution

Phil Archer: fine - what then is the name for the property :-) e.g. dcat:resource or dcat:distribution ←

14:23:52 <PhilA> we relocate the question to properties from classes ...

Phil Archer: we relocate the question to properties from classes ... ←

14:24:14 <olyerickson> cygri: (thinking out loud) only have specific sub-classes, no superclass

Richard Cyganiak: (thinking out loud) only have specific sub-classes, no superclass ←

14:24:20 <olyerickson> * already have shared property

* already have shared property ←

14:24:43 <olyerickson> * even if we don't have the superclass, we still have the commonality

* even if we don't have the superclass, we still have the commonality ←

14:24:43 <PhilA> but that property should be renamed  (sorry not clearer about that ...)

Phil Archer: but that property should be renamed (sorry not clearer about that ...) ←

14:24:51 <PhilA> if dcat:Distribution renamed so would property

Phil Archer: if dcat:Distribution renamed so would property ←

14:24:52 <olyerickson> * makes documentation a bit confusing

* makes documentation a bit confusing ←

14:25:08 <olyerickson> * still need to explain/provide guidance

* still need to explain/provide guidance ←

14:25:13 <George> q?

George Thomas: q? ←

14:25:25 <cygri> cygri: ditch superclass, rename property to something like dcat:associatedResource?

Richard Cyganiak: ditch superclass, rename property to something like dcat:associatedResource? [ Scribe Assist by Richard Cyganiak ] ←

14:25:27 <PhilA>  dcat:distribution -> dcat:resource (or dcat:datasetResource)

Phil Archer: dcat:distribution -> dcat:resource (or dcat:datasetResource) ←

14:25:38 <PhilA> cygri: understood - that sounds good ...

Phil Archer: cygri understood - that sounds good ... ←

14:25:43 <PhilA> (Rufus)

Phil Archer: (Rufus) ←

14:26:04 <PhilA> s/cygri:/cygri/
14:26:50 <PhilA> Rufus: +1 on dcat:associatedResource

Rufus Pollock: +1 on dcat:associatedResource [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

14:28:22 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

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14:28:22 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted

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14:28:32 <PhilA> please repeat last point olyerickson -missed it

Phil Archer: please repeat last point olyerickson -missed it ←

14:28:36 <olyerickson> did any of that make sense?

did any of that make sense? ←

14:29:00 <olyerickson> fadmaa: one more option

Fadi Maali: one more option ←

14:29:02 <cygri> olyerickson: i'm opposed to making any reference to "required" parts of the spec

John Erickson: i'm opposed to making any reference to "required" parts of the spec [ Scribe Assist by Richard Cyganiak ] ←

14:29:16 <olyerickson> * accessURL and...

* accessURL and... ←

14:29:20 <olyerickson> * downloadURL

* downloadURL ←

14:29:41 <Zakim> -rsingh2

Zakim IRC Bot: -rsingh2 ←

14:29:55 <olyerickson> * downloadURL used only if provider is sure it is downloadable

* downloadURL used only if provider is sure it is downloadable ←

14:30:13 <olyerickson> rufus: problem with locating addition information

Rufus Pollock: problem with locating addition information ←

14:31:01 <olyerickson> cygri: What is the proposal on the table now?

Richard Cyganiak: What is the proposal on the table now? ←

14:31:16 <olyerickson> rufus: leave classes as they are

Rufus Pollock: leave classes as they are ←

14:31:36 <olyerickson> (sorry that was fadmaa)

(sorry that was fadmaa) ←

14:31:52 <olyerickson> * downloadURL points to downloadable dataset file

* downloadURL points to downloadable dataset file ←

14:31:53 <cygri> zakim, who is noisy?

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is noisy? ←

14:32:02 <PhilA> zakim, mute me

Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←

14:32:02 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←

14:32:04 <Zakim> cygri, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (14%), George_Thomas (13%), PhilA (57%), gatemezin (4%)

Zakim IRC Bot: cygri, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (14%), George_Thomas (13%), PhilA (57%), gatemezin (4%) ←

14:32:23 <PhilA> q+

Phil Archer: q+ ←

14:32:29 <olyerickson> * accessURL merely...um...access point

* accessURL merely...um...access point ←

14:32:35 <olyerickson> cygri: Doesn't see it

Richard Cyganiak: Doesn't see it ←

14:32:41 <olyerickson> * can't see the distinction

* can't see the distinction ←

14:33:08 <olyerickson> * if we know it's a download, don't see what we would need separate "access" URL

* if we know it's a download, don't see what we would need separate "access" URL ←

14:33:21 <olyerickson> * doesn't think we would want to provide two

* doesn't think we would want to provide two ←

14:33:30 <olyerickson> * thus why make distinction?

* thus why make distinction? ←

14:33:42 <atemezin> +1 not to making the difference btw "download" and "access"-URL

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 not to making the difference btw "download" and "access"-URL ←

14:33:48 <olyerickson> * seems simpler to have a flag e.g. accessType

* seems simpler to have a flag e.g. accessType ←

14:34:05 <olyerickson> * target URL and a type

* target URL and a type ←

14:34:14 <PhilA> Rufus is nodding his heada in violent agreement

Phil Archer: Rufus is nodding his heada in violent agreement ←

14:34:19 <olyerickson> fadmaa: now that cygri says it that way, not so convinced...

Fadi Maali: now that cygri says it that way, not so convinced... ←

14:34:26 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

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14:34:26 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted

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14:34:29 <PhilA> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me ←

14:34:40 <olyerickson> George: Are we back to "associated resource?"

George Thomas: Are we back to "associated resource?" ←

14:35:09 <olyerickson> PhilA: +1 on "associated resource" (or is that Rufus?)

Phil Archer: +1 on "associated resource" (or is that Rufus?) ←

14:35:31 <PhilA> Rufus + PhilA are happy

Phil Archer: Rufus + PhilA are happy ←

14:35:36 <olyerickson> * Rufus and PhilA are happy (together...)

* Rufus and PhilA are happy (together...) ←

14:35:38 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

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14:35:38 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted

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14:35:53 <PhilA> zakim, mute me

Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←

14:35:53 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted

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14:35:53 <cygri> ISSUE-9?

Richard Cyganiak: ISSUE-9? ←

14:35:53 <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- dcat:Distribution and its subclasses are unnecessary -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-9 -- dcat:Distribution and its subclasses are unnecessary -- raised ←

14:35:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9 ←

14:35:56 <olyerickson> George: How does this happiness reflect on our status?

George Thomas: How does this happiness reflect on our status? ←

14:36:37 <PhilA> Rufus happy with Richard proposal to abolish superclass and use property

Phil Archer: Rufus happy with Richard proposal to abolish superclass and use property ←

14:36:47 <PhilA> but also happy to keep and rename ...

Phil Archer: but also happy to keep and rename ... ←

14:37:09 <George> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/7

George Thomas: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/7 ←

14:37:13 <olyerickson> cygri: thinks Ed's point under original issue was "access url" could be (directly) the URI of the distribution resource

Richard Cyganiak: thinks Ed's point under original issue was "access url" could be (directly) the URI of the distribution resource ←

14:37:22 <PhilA> This is me - cygri is singing my tune :-)

Phil Archer: This is me - cygri is singing my tune :-) ←

14:37:24 <George> ISSUE-7

George Thomas: ISSUE-7 ←

14:37:29 <George> ISSUE-7?

George Thomas: ISSUE-7? ←

14:37:29 <trackbot> ISSUE-7 -- Drop dcat:accessUrl, use the URI of the dcat:Download resource instead -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-7 -- Drop dcat:accessUrl, use the URI of the dcat:Download resource instead -- raised ←

14:37:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/7

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/7 ←

14:37:58 <olyerickson> fadmaa: confirms: Ed's issue was, why not just use the URI

Fadi Maali: confirms: Ed's issue was, why not just use the URI ←

14:38:01 <George> q?

George Thomas: q? ←

14:38:10 <PhilA> q+

Phil Archer: q+ ←

14:38:17 <PhilA> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me ←

14:39:12 <olyerickson> PhilA: Hates conflation of access URI/distribution URI (please explain)

Phil Archer: Hates conflation of access URI/distribution URI (please explain) ←

14:40:17 <olyerickson> * if URIs are forever, one doesn't need an access URL because URI will suffice

* if URIs are forever, one doesn't need an access URL because URI will suffice ←

14:40:28 <fadmaa> this is Ed's original post: http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/issues/38

Fadi Maali: this is Ed's original post: http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/issues/38 ←

14:40:32 <PhilA> zakim, mute me

Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←

14:40:32 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted

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14:41:29 <PhilA> I have accessURL but it seems to be practical and necessary for a lot of people so, reluctantly, I have to come down on the side of keeping it. Ref. ADMS, chat woth cygri and Rufus today

Phil Archer: I hate accessURL but it seems to be practical and necessary for a lot of people so, reluctantly, I hate to come down on the side of keeping it. Ref. ADMS, chat woth cygri and Rufus today ←

14:41:36 <PhilA> s/have/hate/
14:42:03 <PhilA> I hate accessURL but it seems to be practical and necessary for a lot of people so, reluctantly, I have to come down on the side of keeping it. Ref. ADMS, chat woth cygri and Rufus today

Phil Archer: I hate accessURL but it seems to be practical and necessary for a lot of people so, reluctantly, I have to come down on the side of keeping it. Ref. ADMS, chat woth cygri and Rufus today ←

14:42:21 <PhilA> zakim, unmute me

Phil Archer: zakim, unmute me ←

14:42:21 <Zakim> PhilA should no longer be muted

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14:42:38 <PhilA> zakim, mute me

Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←

14:42:38 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←

14:42:52 <olyerickson> Looks like PhilA restated it (and it's how I understood him)

Looks like PhilA restated it (and it's how I understood him) ←

14:43:28 <olyerickson> cygri: What do we need a subclass that says "this is a download," etc

Richard Cyganiak: What do we need a subclass that says "this is a download," etc ←

14:43:35 <PhilA> q+

Phil Archer: q+ ←

14:43:41 <olyerickson> * why can we just describe what kind of a thing it is via properties?

* why can we just describe what kind of a thing it is via properties? ←

14:43:58 <PhilA> q-

Phil Archer: q- ←

14:44:15 <PhilA> Rufus +1

Phil Archer: Rufus +1 ←

14:44:22 <olyerickson> * thinks it is helpful to have rich set of subclasses to help client "understand" what is available/what can be done

* thinks it is helpful to have rich set of subclasses to help client "understand" what is available/what can be done ←

14:45:03 <olyerickson> * if there is info attached that say "this is a download" etc is useful

* if there is info attached that say "this is a download" etc is useful ←

14:45:31 <olyerickson> * but is in favor of accomplishing this clarification with structure of subclasses

* but is in favor of accomplishing this clarification with structure of subclasses ←

14:45:55 <olyerickson> * bottom line: do it through subclasses or do it with properties?

* bottom line: do it through subclasses or do it with properties? ←

14:46:15 <PhilA> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me ←

14:46:24 <olyerickson> George: Back to Rufus & PhilA

George Thomas: Back to Rufus & PhilA ←

14:47:06 <olyerickson> rufus: avoid doing it as a hack

Rufus Pollock: avoid doing it as a hack ←

14:47:25 <olyerickson> * having distinct subclasses is preferred

* having distinct subclasses is preferred ←

14:47:50 <olyerickson> * happy for superclass to be there, happy for it to go...

* happy for superclass to be there, happy for it to go... ←

14:48:07 <PhilA> Rufus "subclasses" (distinct classes) is a very good idea

Phil Archer: Rufus "subclasses" (distinct classes) is a very good idea ←

14:48:37 <cygri> so, drop dcat:Distribution superclass; keep subclasses; rename dcat:distribution property to dcat:associatedResource?

Richard Cyganiak: so, drop dcat:Distribution superclass; keep subclasses; rename dcat:distribution property to dcat:associatedResource? ←

14:48:43 <PhilA> happy for super class to go if we retain discuss classes "dcat:Download" etc

Phil Archer: happy for super class to go if we retain discuss classes "dcat:Download" etc ←

14:48:43 <olyerickson> PhilA: conscious of time; will try to send email to come to resolution

Phil Archer: conscious of time; will try to send email to come to resolution ←

14:49:01 <PhilA> Rufus +1 to cygri proposal

Phil Archer: Rufus +1 to cygri proposal ←

14:49:02 <olyerickson>  suggestion: examples might be good

suggestion: examples might be good ←

14:49:16 <PhilA> zakim, mute me

Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←

14:49:16 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←

14:49:30 <olyerickson> George: Recap and clarification would be appreciated

George Thomas: Recap and clarification would be appreciated ←

14:49:56 <olyerickson> I would be happy with enything that is clear and is extensible

I would be happy with enything that is clear and is extensible ←

14:50:08 <PhilA> action: PhilA to summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not

ACTION: PhilA to summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not ←

14:50:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-73 - Summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not [on Phil Archer - due 2012-08-02].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-73 - Summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not [on Phil Archer - due 2012-08-02]. ←

14:50:14 <PhilA> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me ←

14:50:19 <olyerickson> olyerickson's concern is adding confusion for adopters

olyerickson's concern is adding confusion for adopters ←

14:50:32 <olyerickson> topic: "What this means" (PhilA)

6. "What this means" (PhilA)

14:50:51 <olyerickson> * these vocabs are on the "rec track"

* these vocabs are on the "rec track" ←

14:51:09 <PhilA> Rufus (from email) Clarify "conformance". Suggest either removal (is it relevant for

Phil Archer: Rufus (from email) Clarify "conformance". Suggest either removal (is it relevant for ←

14:51:10 <PhilA> vocabs?) or phrasing as: "Conformance means using terms from this

Phil Archer: vocabs?) or phrasing as: "Conformance means using terms from this ←

14:51:10 <PhilA> vocabulary whenever they are relevant"

Phil Archer: vocabulary whenever they are relevant" ←

14:51:12 <olyerickson> * does it make sense to have a "conformance statement"

* does it make sense to have a "conformance statement" ←

14:51:20 <olyerickson> * if so, what is it intended to do?

* if so, what is it intended to do? ←

14:51:26 <PhilA> (apologies for line breaks!)

Phil Archer: (apologies for line breaks!) ←

14:51:38 <olyerickson> * mostly we mean, "please do not re-invent these terms"

* mostly we mean, "please do not re-invent these terms" ←

14:52:07 <PhilA> zakim, mute me

Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←

14:52:07 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←

14:52:15 <PhilA> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me ←

14:52:16 <olyerickson> * For DCAT, is it appropriate to have conformance statement, and of so what should it say?

* For DCAT, is it appropriate to have conformance statement, and of so what should it say? ←

14:52:32 <DaveReynolds> Isn't conformance about interop?  If every application does it's own profile then there's no interop.

Dave Reynolds: Isn't conformance about interop? If every application does it's own profile then there's no interop. ←

14:52:33 <olyerickson> George: wants Sandro to weigh in?

George Thomas: wants Sandro to weigh in? ←

14:52:59 <Zakim> -tinagheen

Zakim IRC Bot: -tinagheen ←

14:53:00 <olyerickson> Sandro: Has been thinking, likes Rufus's comments in email earlier

Sandro Hawke: Has been thinking, likes Rufus's comments in email earlier ←

14:53:27 <olyerickson> * conformance clauses are there to keep people on track

* conformance clauses are there to keep people on track ←

14:53:47 <olyerickson> * the more precise people are, the more helpful

* the more precise people are, the more helpful ←

14:53:53 <olyerickson> cygri: agrees with Sandro'

Richard Cyganiak: agrees with Sandro' ←

14:54:02 <George> q?

George Thomas: q? ←

14:54:11 <olyerickson> * unclear what it means to conform (unlike many other specs)

* unclear what it means to conform (unlike many other specs) ←

14:54:28 <olyerickson> Q+

Q+ ←

14:54:55 <olyerickson> zakim, I am [ipcaller]

zakim, I am [ipcaller] ←

14:54:55 <Zakim> ok, olyerickson, I now associate you with [IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, olyerickson, I now associate you with [IPcaller] ←

14:55:25 <olyerickson> * can we add conformance/non-conformance in the spec (reasonably)?

* can we add conformance/non-conformance in the spec (reasonably)? ←

14:55:30 <olyerickson> * how to make it work?

* how to make it work? ←

14:55:44 <olyerickson> * much easier with a protocol than e.g. a vocabulary

* much easier with a protocol than e.g. a vocabulary ←

14:57:27 <George> q?

George Thomas: q? ←

14:57:34 <George> ack olyerickson

George Thomas: ack olyerickson ←

14:57:40 <PhilA> An idea: "The nature of a vocabulary is that each person's use is likely to be different. However, inclusion of a term in this vocabulary is in indication that the community sees it as being important and/or useful!

Phil Archer: An idea: "The nature of a vocabulary is that each person's use is likely to be different. However, inclusion of a term in this vocabulary is in indication that the community sees it as being important and/or useful! ←

14:57:48 <George> ack [IPcaller]

George Thomas: ack [IPcaller] ←

14:57:57 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.

zakim, mute me. ←

14:57:57 <Zakim> [IPcaller] should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: [IPcaller] should now be muted ←

14:58:08 <PhilA> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me ←

14:58:16 <olyerickson> Sandro: not much experience w.r.t. "comformance"

Sandro Hawke: not much experience w.r.t. "comformance" ←

14:58:40 <George> DCAT conformance means that a provider uses the entire DCAT vocabulary when publishing catalog and dataset metadata.

George Thomas: DCAT conformance means that a provider uses the entire DCAT vocabulary when publishing catalog and dataset metadata. ←

14:59:01 <olyerickson> Rufus: Please explain what DCAT spec means when it (currently) refers to conformance

Rufus Pollock: Please explain what DCAT spec means when it (currently) refers to conformance ←

14:59:10 <sandro> sandro: I don't know of any cases in the industry where people have had difficulties around conformance with a vocabulary, so it's hard to know what problems to address.

Sandro Hawke: I don't know of any cases in the industry where people have had difficulties around conformance with a vocabulary, so it's hard to know what problems to address. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←

14:59:33 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen

Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←

14:59:43 <olyerickson> * DCAT spec currently says, conformance means using it all.

* DCAT spec currently says, conformance means using it all. ←

14:59:44 <George> q?

George Thomas: q? ←

14:59:58 <cygri> +1 to rufus, the current wording is not good

Richard Cyganiak: +1 to rufus, the current wording is not good ←

14:59:59 <PhilA> zakim, mute me

Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←

15:00:00 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←

15:00:08 <olyerickson> George: We have a lot to work on w.r.t. "conformance"

George Thomas: We have a lot to work on w.r.t. "conformance" ←

15:00:26 <olyerickson> * protocol usage might inform/guide

* protocol usage might inform/guide ←

15:00:36 <olyerickson> topic: Wrap Up

7. Wrap Up

15:00:45 <martinAlvarez> q+

Martín Álvarez: q+ ←

15:00:49 <olyerickson> * thanks to olyerickson for typing

* thanks to olyerickson for typing ←

15:00:56 <PhilA> Rufus thank-you!

Phil Archer: Rufus thank-you! ←

15:01:04 <olyerickson> * thanks to Rufus & PhilA for recent work on this

* thanks to Rufus & PhilA for recent work on this ←

15:01:08 <PhilA> I'll send some follow up mails/issues

Phil Archer: I'll send some follow up mails/issues ←

15:01:08 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds

Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds ←

15:01:10 <martinAlvarez> zakim, unmute me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, unmute me ←

15:01:11 <mhausenblas> Thanks!

Michael Hausenblas: Thanks! ←

15:01:12 <Zakim> martinAlvarez should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: martinAlvarez should no longer be muted ←

15:01:14 <olyerickson> * thanks everyone for productive call

* thanks everyone for productive call ←

15:01:17 <HadleyBeeman> +q

Hadley Beeman: +q ←

15:01:25 <olyerickson> martinAlvarez: Remark (informative)

Martín Álvarez: Remark (informative) ←

15:01:31 <cygri> thanks for joining Rufus!

Richard Cyganiak: thanks for joining Rufus! ←

15:01:43 <atemezin> Thanks Rufus for your comments...

Ghislain Atemezing: Thanks Rufus for your comments... ←

15:01:45 <olyerickson> * currently in charge of recommendation for Spanish govt

* currently in charge of recommendation for Spanish govt ←

15:01:53 <olyerickson> * al levels of govt

* al levels of govt ←

15:02:08 <olyerickson> * guidance on publishing govt data using DCAT

* guidance on publishing govt data using DCAT ←

15:02:19 <olyerickson> * would like it in a stable format

* would like it in a stable format ←

15:02:39 <cygri> martinAlvarez, what's the timeline on this?

Richard Cyganiak: martinAlvarez, what's the timeline on this? ←

15:02:42 <George> q?

George Thomas: q? ←

15:02:43 <olyerickson> George: Encouraged to collaborate on GLD cubmission

George Thomas: Encouraged to collaborate on GLD cubmission ←

15:02:45 <martinAlvarez> zakim, mute me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, mute me ←

15:02:45 <Zakim> martinAlvarez should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: martinAlvarez should now be muted ←

15:02:49 <George> ack martinAlvarez

George Thomas: ack martinAlvarez ←

15:02:54 <olyerickson> HadleyBeeman: hard to hear

Hadley Beeman: hard to hear ←

15:02:56 <PhilA> Rufus: would like to work with martinAlvarez on that!

Rufus Pollock: would like to work with martinAlvarez on that! [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

15:03:04 <olyerickson> * been thinking about data discivery

* been thinking about data discivery ←

15:03:09 <martinAlvarez> Please, Rufus :-)

Martín Álvarez: Please, Rufus :-) ←

15:03:16 <PhilA> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me ←

15:03:17 <olyerickson> * any thoughts on discovery et.al.

* any thoughts on discovery et.al. ←

15:03:26 <George> ack HadleyBeeman

George Thomas: ack HadleyBeeman ←

15:03:35 <olyerickson> PhilA: repeat question

Phil Archer: repeat question ←

15:03:40 <olyerickson> HadleyBeeman: as been brainstorming

Hadley Beeman: as been brainstorming ←

15:03:47 <olyerickson> * what behaviors are assumed

* what behaviors are assumed ←

15:04:01 <olyerickson> * behaviors w.r.t. interacting with datasets

* behaviors w.r.t. interacting with datasets ←

15:04:32 <olyerickson> PhilA: This is pertinent w.r.t. the protocol/API work currently being done at CKAN

Phil Archer: This is pertinent w.r.t. the protocol/API work currently being done at CKAN ←

15:04:33 <HadleyBeeman> I should look to the definition of an API work that Rufus is doing? (to confirm)

Hadley Beeman: I should look to the definition of an API work that Rufus is doing? (to confirm) ←

15:04:35 <cygri> HadleyBeeman, there are some thoughts here: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html

Richard Cyganiak: HadleyBeeman, there are some thoughts here: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html ←

15:05:44 <HadleyBeeman> Sounds like we should all talk more.  Thanks, Rufus, PhilA and cygri!

Hadley Beeman: Sounds like we should all talk more. Thanks, Rufus, PhilA and cygri! ←

15:05:46 <PhilA> zakim, mute me

Phil Archer: zakim, mute me ←

15:05:46 <Zakim> PhilA should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA should now be muted ←

15:05:46 <cygri> thanks all!

Richard Cyganiak: thanks all! ←

15:05:49 <olyerickson> George: End with massive +1

George Thomas: End with massive +1 ←

15:05:49 <HadleyBeeman> Cheers, all!

Hadley Beeman: Cheers, all! ←

15:05:55 <olyerickson> I don't know how to close this out

I don't know how to close this out ←

15:05:57 <PhilA> bye all

Phil Archer: bye all ←

15:06:03 <olyerickson> can someone help????

can someone help???? ←

15:06:04 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

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15:06:06 <Zakim> -fadmaa

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15:06:08 <Zakim> -GeraldSteeman

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15:06:10 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks.

Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks. ←

15:06:12 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

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15:06:15 <Zakim> -PhilA

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15:06:16 <Zakim> -sandro

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15:06:18 <Zakim> -martinAlvarez

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15:06:18 <atemezin> rrsagent, bye

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15:06:18 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/26-gld-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/26-gld-actions.rdf : ←

15:06:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: PhilA to summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not [1]

ACTION: PhilA to summarise discussion and make a proposal for agreement or not [1] ←

15:06:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/26-gld-irc#T14-50-08

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