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14:19:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:19:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
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14:19:56 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 41 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 41 minutes ←
14:19:57 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:19:57 <trackbot> Date: 05 January 2012
14:30:33 <Mike_Pendleton> scribe:MikeP
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14:33:56 <Mike_Pendleton> #GLDWG
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14:35:41 <Mike_Pendleton> Chair: Bernadette Hyland
14:45:12 <Mike_Pendleton> correction - Chair: George Thomas
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14:51:34 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.566.aaaa ←
14:51:57 <Mike_Pendleton> Chair: George Thomas
14:53:11 <HadleyBeeman> Hi all. Happy new year!
Hadley Beeman: Hi all. Happy new year! ←
14:53:30 <Mike_Pendleton> ScribeNick:Mike_P
14:53:39 <olyerickson> @All: Happy New Year
John Erickson: @All: Happy New Year ←
14:53:46 <fadmaa> Hi. happy new year!
Fadi Maali: Hi. happy new year! ←
14:53:50 <HadleyBeeman> :)
Hadley Beeman: :) ←
14:55:03 <Mike_Pendleton> chair: gthomas
14:55:22 <Zakim> +George_Thomas
Zakim IRC Bot: +George_Thomas ←
14:55:28 <Zakim> + +3539149aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +3539149aabb ←
14:55:37 <Zakim> + +1.218.296.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.218.296.aacc ←
14:56:02 <rreck> zakim, +1.218.296.aacc is me
Ronald Reck: zakim, +1.218.296.aacc is me ←
14:56:02 <Zakim> +rreck; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +rreck; got it ←
14:56:08 <rreck> zakim, mute me
Ronald Reck: zakim, mute me ←
14:56:08 <Zakim> rreck should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should now be muted ←
14:56:42 <fadmaa> Zakim, +353914 is fadi
Fadi Maali: Zakim, +353914 is fadi ←
14:56:42 <Zakim> +fadi; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +fadi; got it ←
14:56:50 <George> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120105
George Thomas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120105 ←
14:57:10 <BartvanLeeuwen> hi all
Bart van Leeuwen: hi all ←
14:57:12 <fadmaa> Zakim, +353914 is fadmaa
Fadi Maali: Zakim, +353914 is fadmaa ←
14:57:12 <Zakim> sorry, fadmaa, I do not recognize a party named '+353914'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, fadmaa, I do not recognize a party named '+353914' ←
14:57:20 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.440.389.aadd ←
14:57:22 <fadmaa> Zakim, fadi is fadmaa
Fadi Maali: Zakim, fadi is fadmaa ←
14:57:22 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +fadmaa; got it ←
14:57:26 <bhyland> hi all. George will be chairing today. I'm on IRC only.
Bernadette Hyland: hi all. George will be chairing today. I'm on IRC only. ←
14:57:34 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aadd is me
Hadley Beeman: zakim, aadd is me ←
14:57:34 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman; got it ←
14:57:57 <rreck> that is the one i forget to do
Ronald Reck: that is the one i forget to do ←
14:58:18 <Zakim> +??P12
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12 ←
14:58:21 <rreck> you want to be sure
Ronald Reck: you want to be sure ←
14:58:30 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P12 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??P12 is me ←
14:58:30 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
14:58:38 <rreck> hi anne
Ronald Reck: hi anne ←
14:58:46 <Zakim> + +1.757.604.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.757.604.aaee ←
14:58:47 <George> Meeting <GLD>
George Thomas: Meeting <GLD> ←
14:58:53 <annew> yo Mr stability!
Anne Washington: yo Mr stability! ←
14:59:01 <rreck> anything but
Ronald Reck: anything but ←
14:59:07 <Zakim> +??P17
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P17 ←
14:59:24 <George> Agenda: <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120105>
14:59:25 <olyerickson> Zakim, P17 is me.
John Erickson: Zakim, P17 is me. ←
14:59:26 <Zakim> sorry, olyerickson, I do not recognize a party named 'P17'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, olyerickson, I do not recognize a party named 'P17' ←
14:59:27 <GeraldSteeman> Zakim, I'm aaee
Gerald Steeman: Zakim, I'm aaee ←
14:59:28 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I'm aaee', GeraldSteeman
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'I'm aaee', GeraldSteeman ←
14:59:40 <olyerickson> Zakim, ?p17 is me.
John Erickson: Zakim, ?p17 is me. ←
14:59:40 <Zakim> sorry, olyerickson, I do not recognize a party named '?p17'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, olyerickson, I do not recognize a party named '?p17' ←
14:59:47 <GeraldSteeman> Zakim, aaee is me.
Gerald Steeman: Zakim, aaee is me. ←
14:59:48 <Zakim> +GeraldSteeman; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +GeraldSteeman; got it ←
15:00:05 <rreck> zakim needs to support more than one way to do things
Ronald Reck: zakim needs to support more than one way to do things ←
15:00:08 <annew> correct meeting agenda URL is http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120105
Anne Washington: correct meeting agenda URL is http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120105 ←
15:00:09 <olyerickson> zakim, ??p17 is me.
John Erickson: zakim, ??p17 is me. ←
15:00:09 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it ←
15:00:10 <Zakim> +sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +sandro ←
15:00:21 <Zakim> +raphael
Zakim IRC Bot: +raphael ←
15:00:27 <sandro> RRSAgent, pointer?
Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, pointer? ←
15:00:27 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2012/01/05-gld-irc#T15-00-27
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2012/01/05-gld-irc#T15-00-27 ←
15:00:31 <Zakim> + +49.721.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.721.aaff ←
15:00:32 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:00:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.202.566.aaaa, George_Thomas, fadmaa (muted), rreck (muted), HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, GeraldSteeman, olyerickson, sandro, raphael, +49.721.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.202.566.aaaa, George_Thomas, fadmaa (muted), rreck (muted), HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, GeraldSteeman, olyerickson, sandro, raphael, +49.721.aaff ←
15:00:33 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone
John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone ←
15:00:35 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is on the phone', olyerickson ←
15:00:50 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?
John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:00:54 <Zakim> + +1.267.481.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.267.481.aagg ←
15:01:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.202.566.aaaa, George_Thomas, fadmaa (muted), rreck (muted), HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, GeraldSteeman, olyerickson, sandro, raphael (muted), +49.721.aaff,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.202.566.aaaa, George_Thomas, fadmaa (muted), rreck (muted), HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, GeraldSteeman, olyerickson, sandro, raphael (muted), +49.721.aaff, ←
15:01:05 <Zakim> ... +1.267.481.aagg (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.267.481.aagg (muted) ←
15:01:10 <raphael> Present+ raphael
Raphaël Troncy: Present+ raphael ←
15:01:17 <raphael> Regrets+ Ghislain
Raphaël Troncy: Regrets+ Ghislain ←
15:01:46 <sandro> Zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, who is talking? ←
15:01:47 <Mike_Pendleton> George Thomas to chair today
George Thomas to chair today ←
15:01:52 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, aaff is BenediktKaempgen
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, aaff is BenediktKaempgen ←
15:02:01 <sandro> zakim, aaaa is George
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aaaa is George ←
15:02:21 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it ←
15:02:27 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 12 (60%), +1.202.566.aaaa (47%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 12 (60%), +1.202.566.aaaa (47%) ←
15:02:35 <Zakim> +George; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +George; got it ←
15:03:03 <BenediktKaempgen> hearing it also
Benedikt Kaempgen: hearing it also ←
15:03:04 <rreck> yes i hear it too
Ronald Reck: yes i hear it too ←
15:03:08 <fadmaa> I hear a noise as well
Fadi Maali: I hear a noise as well ←
15:03:09 <Zakim> +[LC]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[LC] ←
15:03:09 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.
John Erickson: zakim, mute me. ←
15:03:10 <BartvanLeeuwen> sandro, +1 for sound
Bart van Leeuwen: sandro, +1 for sound ←
15:03:10 <rreck> it is noise cancelation
Ronald Reck: it is noise cancelation ←
15:03:27 <olyerickson> Hi
John Erickson: Hi ←
15:03:29 <tgheen> Zakim, [LC] is me
Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me ←
15:03:31 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted ←
15:03:42 <olyerickson> I don't think it's me
John Erickson: I don't think it's me ←
15:03:53 <Zakim> +tgheen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +tgheen; got it ←
15:03:57 <rreck> i am familiar but the solution is non-trivial
Ronald Reck: i am familiar but the solution is non-trivial ←
15:04:06 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, mute me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, mute me ←
15:04:07 <rreck> i am double muted also
Ronald Reck: i am double muted also ←
15:04:15 <Zakim> BartvanLeeuwen should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BartvanLeeuwen should now be muted ←
15:04:34 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.566.aahh ←
15:04:44 <DruidSmith> Zakim, aahh is me
David Smith: Zakim, aahh is me ←
15:04:53 <Zakim> +DruidSmith; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +DruidSmith; got it ←
15:04:54 <sandro> zakim, George is MikePendleton
Sandro Hawke: zakim, George is MikePendleton ←
15:04:55 <Zakim> +MikePendleton; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MikePendleton; got it ←
15:05:06 <Zakim> + +1.443.569.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.443.569.aaii ←
15:05:21 <Mike_Pendleton> Proposal to accept minutes?
Proposal to accept minutes? ←
15:05:26 <Mike_Pendleton> Comments?
Comments? ←
15:05:30 <Mike_Pendleton> Accepted
Accepted ←
15:05:30 <raphael> +1
Raphaël Troncy: +1 ←
15:05:34 <ZacharyWhitley> zakim, who's here?
Zachary Whitley: zakim, who's here? ←
15:05:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see MikePendleton, George_Thomas, fadmaa (muted), rreck (muted), HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen (muted), GeraldSteeman, olyerickson (muted), sandro, raphael (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MikePendleton, George_Thomas, fadmaa (muted), rreck (muted), HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen (muted), GeraldSteeman, olyerickson (muted), sandro, raphael (muted), ←
15:05:38 <olyerickson> +1
John Erickson: +1 ←
15:05:38 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
15:05:38 <Zakim> ... BenediktKaempgen (muted), +1.267.481.aagg, tgheen (muted), DruidSmith, +1.443.569.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: ... BenediktKaempgen (muted), +1.267.481.aagg, tgheen (muted), DruidSmith, +1.443.569.aaii ←
15:05:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see DruidSmith, tgheen, BermudezLuis, annew, GeraldSteeman, BartvanLeeuwen, George, ZacharyWhitley, rreck, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa, bhyland, MacTed, raphael,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see DruidSmith, tgheen, BermudezLuis, annew, GeraldSteeman, BartvanLeeuwen, George, ZacharyWhitley, rreck, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa, bhyland, MacTed, raphael, ←
15:05:46 <Zakim> ... Zakim, RRSAgent, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, danbri, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Zakim, RRSAgent, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, danbri, trackbot, sandro ←
15:05:50 <Mike_Pendleton> TOPIC: Minutes Accepted
15:06:24 <olyerickson> No updates from me...
John Erickson: No updates from me... ←
15:06:40 <rreck> I am improved the stability section but it is not complete
Ronald Reck: I have improved the stability section but it is not complete ←
15:06:45 <rreck> s/am/have
15:07:18 <rreck> new AND improved
Ronald Reck: new AND improved ←
15:07:36 <George> TOPIC: Procurement
15:08:06 <annew> there's nothing to improve upon
Anne Washington: there's nothing to improve upon ←
15:08:18 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who's here?
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here? ←
15:08:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see MikePendleton, George_Thomas, fadmaa (muted), rreck (muted), HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen (muted), GeraldSteeman, olyerickson (muted), sandro, raphael (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MikePendleton, George_Thomas, fadmaa (muted), rreck (muted), HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen (muted), GeraldSteeman, olyerickson (muted), sandro, raphael (muted), ←
15:08:23 <Zakim> ... BenediktKaempgen (muted), +1.267.481.aagg, tgheen (muted), DruidSmith, +1.443.569.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: ... BenediktKaempgen (muted), +1.267.481.aagg, tgheen (muted), DruidSmith, +1.443.569.aaii ←
15:08:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see tgheen, BermudezLuis, annew, GeraldSteeman, BartvanLeeuwen, George, ZacharyWhitley, rreck, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa, bhyland, MacTed, raphael, Zakim,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see tgheen, BermudezLuis, annew, GeraldSteeman, BartvanLeeuwen, George, ZacharyWhitley, rreck, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman, fadmaa, bhyland, MacTed, raphael, Zakim, ←
15:08:30 <Zakim> ... RRSAgent, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, danbri, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... RRSAgent, BenediktKaempgen, Mike_Pendleton, danbri, trackbot, sandro ←
15:08:51 <George> Mike_Pendleton: procurement - overview of LD, evolution of data mgmt practices, community dir
Michael Pendleton: procurement - overview of LD, evolution of data mgmt practices, community dir [ Scribe Assist by George Thomas ] ←
15:09:48 <George> ... segments - Activities (5 areas); Services; Products - describe characteristics of S&P per activity
George Thomas: ... segments - Activities (5 areas); Services; Products - describe characteristics of S&P per activity ←
15:10:12 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is speaking?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is speaking? ←
15:10:23 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: MikePendleton (84%), George_Thomas (21%)
Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: MikePendleton (84%), George_Thomas (21%) ←
15:10:35 <raphael> I'm not sure when this is time to discuss this, but the Linked Enterprise Data patterns workshop report has been released, http://www.w3.org/2011/09/LinkedData/Report and that there is an explicit mention of potential overalp with this group and its deliverables
Raphaël Troncy: I'm not sure when this is time to discuss this, but the Linked Enterprise Data patterns workshop report has been released, http://www.w3.org/2011/09/LinkedData/Report and that there is an explicit mention of potential overalp with this group and its deliverables ←
15:10:51 <HadleyBeeman> MikePendleton, This sounds thorough and useful! I'll be keen to see it.
Hadley Beeman: MikePendleton, This sounds thorough and useful! I'll be keen to see it. ←
15:11:32 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
15:12:24 <George> Sandro: save as htm from doc, then use tidy, tool chain to facilitate getting good results for wiki review by GLD members
Sandro Hawke: save as htm from doc, then use tidy, tool chain to facilitate getting good results for wiki review by GLD members [ Scribe Assist by George Thomas ] ←
15:12:37 <George> ... may be easier to recreate by hand
George Thomas: ... may be easier to recreate by hand ←
15:13:10 <DruidSmith_> My internet connection appears to be hosed as well
David Smith: My internet connection appears to be hosed as well ←
15:13:15 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
15:13:48 <George> ack HadleyBeeman
George Thomas: ack HadleyBeeman ←
15:14:50 <HadleyBeeman> ack me
Hadley Beeman: ack me ←
15:16:36 <olyerickson> Workshop Homepage here: http://www.w3.org/2011/09/LinkedData/
John Erickson: Workshop Homepage here: http://www.w3.org/2011/09/LinkedData/ ←
15:16:49 <Zakim> +??P44
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P44 ←
15:17:17 <annew> Zakim, ??p44 is me
Anne Washington: Zakim, ??p44 is me ←
15:17:17 <Zakim> +annew; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +annew; got it ←
15:17:24 <olyerickson> Report page here: http://www.w3.org/2011/09/LinkedData/Report
John Erickson: Report page here: http://www.w3.org/2011/09/LinkedData/Report ←
15:17:26 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:17:40 <Mikep> Comments from Raphael on LD Enterprise Workshop - recommended LD Platform Workgroup; concern about overlap with GLD; recommend liason to deal to with that
Comments from Raphael on LD Enterprise Workshop - recommended LD Platform Workgroup; concern about overlap with GLD; recommend liason to deal to with that ←
15:18:06 <raphael> The report says: "In doing so it will be important to analyze any possible overlaps with the new Government Linked Data Working Group and suggest mitigating measures if appropriate."
Raphaël Troncy: The report says: "In doing so it will be important to analyze any possible overlaps with the new Government Linked Data Working Group and suggest mitigating measures if appropriate." ←
15:18:14 <George> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/library/basic-profile-linked-data/
George Thomas: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/library/basic-profile-linked-data/ ←
15:18:17 <mikep> Sandro: Areas of overlap unclear; focus not on publishing for others to consume; but on applications exposing their data
Sandro Hawke: Areas of overlap unclear; focus not on publishing for others to consume; but on applications exposing their data ←
15:18:22 <George> a 'basic profile' for linked data
George Thomas: a 'basic profile' for linked data ←
15:19:40 <mikep> Sandro: suggest joint tast force to address major overlaps
Sandro Hawke: suggest joint tast force to address major overlaps ←
15:20:22 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
15:21:27 <mikep> George: We will work to determine how best to work with the procurement piece from a technology perspective
George Thomas: We will work to determine how best to work with the procurement piece from a technology perspective ←
15:21:46 <olyerickson> unmute
John Erickson: unmute ←
15:21:52 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute
John Erickson: zakim, unmute ←
15:21:52 <Zakim> I don't understand 'unmute', olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'unmute', olyerickson ←
15:21:58 <olyerickson> help
John Erickson: help ←
15:22:05 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
John Erickson: zakim, unmute me. ←
15:22:05 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted ←
15:24:39 <mikep> Having tech issues hearing
Having tech issues hearing ←
15:25:18 <fadmaa> the current version of dcat is at: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Vocabulary_Reference
Fadi Maali: the current version of dcat is at: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Vocabulary_Reference ←
15:26:08 <olyerickson> Not yet
John Erickson: Not yet ←
15:26:37 <olyerickson> One of my actions is to do some eiki work on that
John Erickson: One of my actions is to do some eiki work on that ←
15:26:47 <George> Fadi: Person, Org work ongoing wrt semic.eu
Fadi Maali: Person, Org work ongoing wrt semic.eu [ Scribe Assist by George Thomas ] ←
15:27:38 <olyerickson> zakim, please mute me.
John Erickson: zakim, please mute me. ←
15:27:38 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted ←
15:28:42 <rreck> anne you can go
Ronald Reck: anne you can go ←
15:28:44 <rreck> yep
Ronald Reck: yep ←
15:28:49 <rreck> zakim, unmute me
Ronald Reck: zakim, unmute me ←
15:28:49 <Zakim> rreck should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should no longer be muted ←
15:29:15 <George> Topic: Stability
15:29:36 <George> annew: collaborating with rreck with some brainstorming
Anne Washington: collaborating with rreck with some brainstorming [ Scribe Assist by George Thomas ] ←
15:29:42 <annew> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary#2.2.5_Stability
Anne Washington: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary#2.2.5_Stability ←
15:30:00 <George> rreck: revamped input into secondary page from above
Ronald Reck: revamped input into secondary page from above [ Scribe Assist by George Thomas ] ←
15:30:48 <mikep> Ron and Ann on Stability BPs - brainstorming and will take next steps next week; framing for indicators of stability for a project
Ron and Ann on Stability BPs - brainstorming and will take next steps next week; framing for indicators of stability for a project ←
15:30:58 <annew> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Stability
Anne Washington: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Stability ←
15:31:02 <George> annew: write up key indicators of stability - interested in GLD member comments from their experiences
Anne Washington: write up key indicators of stability - interested in GLD member comments from their experiences [ Scribe Assist by George Thomas ] ←
15:31:06 <rreck> zakim, mute me
Ronald Reck: zakim, mute me ←
15:31:06 <Zakim> rreck should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should now be muted ←
15:31:07 <George> ... in the F2F2
George Thomas: ... in the F2F2 ←
15:31:15 <rreck> when is the f2f again?
Ronald Reck: when is the f2f again? ←
15:31:18 <rreck> link please
Ronald Reck: link please ←
15:31:35 <mikep> Topic: schedule and milestone review
15:31:45 <annew> Yes looking for comments during F2F on whether these ideas of stability will work with other best practices
Anne Washington: Yes looking for comments during F2F on whether these ideas of stability will work with other best practices ←
15:32:05 <mikep> Sandro: lets focus on being productive for F2F
Sandro Hawke: lets focus on being productive for F2F ←
15:32:23 <mikep> Topic: F2F
15:32:30 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F2
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F2 ←
15:32:48 <mikep> Request for general questions
Request for general questions ←
15:33:20 <rreck> it is two days?
Ronald Reck: it is two days? ←
15:33:23 <sandro> yes
Sandro Hawke: yes ←
15:33:52 <rreck> brutal
Ronald Reck: brutal ←
15:33:59 <mikep> Discuss co-location issue
Discuss co-location issue ←
15:34:03 <sandro> "brutal"?
Sandro Hawke: "brutal"? ←
15:34:18 <rreck> commuting in DC is brutal at least for me
Ronald Reck: commuting in DC is brutal at least for me ←
15:34:36 <mikep> Dan has confirmed 7 a.m. EST start time
Dan has confirmed 7 a.m. EST start time ←
15:34:50 <sandro> rreck, then by all means do what the charter/consensus/group decision says and commute to Ireland! :-)
Sandro Hawke: rreck, then by all means do what the charter/consensus/group decision says and commute to Ireland! :-) ←
15:35:00 <rreck> great point
Ronald Reck: great point ←
15:35:24 <mikep> How might break-out groups work give co-location?
How might break-out groups work give co-location? ←
15:37:56 <annew> The door to BLS is exactly across the street from the Union Station metro stop... for those who have brutal
Anne Washington: The door to BLS is exactly across the street from the Union Station metro stop... for those who have brutal ←
15:38:16 <mikep> Sandro on breakouts - US people could end at 3 formally, but stay around longer
Sandro on breakouts - US people could end at 3 formally, but stay around longer ←
15:39:17 <mikep> George: Suggest a dry run on the call before the meeting to see if it works logistically
George Thomas: Suggest a dry run on the call before the meeting to see if it works logistically ←
15:39:24 <BenediktKaempgen> +1 to peple listed
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 to peple listed ←
15:40:04 <annew> i thought leading a discussion more than a presentation
Anne Washington: i thought leading a discussion more than a presentation ←
15:40:13 <olyerickson> Suggestion: put the names *in* the agenda section
John Erickson: Suggestion: put the names *in* the agenda section ←
15:40:34 <mikep> George: Request each person describe what they will be presenting/discussing (time reqd, issues/questions raised) on the wiki page
George Thomas: Request each person describe what they will be presenting/discussing (time reqd, issues/questions raised) on the wiki page ←
15:40:58 <mikep> Sandro: Want to get the presentation/discussion to lead us to consensus
Sandro Hawke: Want to get the presentation/discussion to lead us to consensus ←
15:41:08 <annew> consensus design = what are the questions? and know enough to make a decision.. ?
Anne Washington: consensus design = what are the questions? and know enough to make a decision.. ? ←
15:41:33 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
15:42:51 <mikep> George: Questions about topics you will be leading/presenting?
George Thomas: Questions about topics you will be leading/presenting? ←
15:42:52 <olyerickson> No questions (at this time...)
John Erickson: No questions (at this time...) ←
15:43:15 <Zakim> -annew
Zakim IRC Bot: -annew ←
15:44:17 <mikep> George: Two more calls before the F2F: next week review updates; next week we could do a dry run
George Thomas: Two more calls before the F2F: next week review updates; next week we could do a dry run ←
15:44:38 <mikep> George: Other input for F2F planning today?
George Thomas: Other input for F2F planning today? ←
15:44:44 <mikep> None
None ←
15:45:24 <mikep> George: Let's open this up
George Thomas: Let's open this up ←
15:45:30 <annew> oh bother with the audio...still on chat...
Anne Washington: oh bother with the audio...still on chat... ←
15:45:41 <fadmaa> @bhyland yes I am from DERI
Fadi Maali: @bhyland yes I am from DERI ←
15:45:46 <sandro> annew, can you rejoin?
Sandro Hawke: annew, can you rejoin? ←
15:45:49 <rreck> i am
Ronald Reck: i am ←
15:45:55 <rreck> zakim, unmute me
Ronald Reck: zakim, unmute me ←
15:45:55 <Zakim> rreck should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should no longer be muted ←
15:45:56 <rreck> sure
Ronald Reck: sure ←
15:45:58 <rreck> one sec
Ronald Reck: one sec ←
15:46:00 <mikep> Sandro: Want to here more about Ron and Anne's work
Sandro Hawke: Want to here more about Ron and Anne's work ←
15:46:32 <George> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Stability
George Thomas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Stability ←
15:47:34 <George> rreck: cost benefit considerations
Ronald Reck: cost benefit considerations [ Scribe Assist by George Thomas ] ←
15:50:58 <mikep> Ron: Overaching concept is that data has value, value reduced by costs in consuming it - looking at attributes that affect cost in using the data; trying to break down costs and show what helps reduce costs. Push modification of legacy data upstrean so that it did not have ot recure. ex: Turtle uses least disk space, easy for people to read vs. machine readabilty of other serializations:
Ronald Reck: Overaching concept is that data has value, value reduced by costs in consuming it - looking at attributes that affect cost in using the data; trying to break down costs and show what helps reduce costs. Push modification of legacy data upstrean so that it did not have ot recure. ex: Turtle uses least disk space, easy for people to read vs. machine readabilty of other serializations: ←
15:51:23 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:51:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see MikePendleton, George_Thomas, fadmaa (muted), rreck, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen (muted), GeraldSteeman, olyerickson (muted), sandro, raphael (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MikePendleton, George_Thomas, fadmaa (muted), rreck, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen (muted), GeraldSteeman, olyerickson (muted), sandro, raphael (muted), ←
15:51:26 <Zakim> ... BenediktKaempgen, +1.267.481.aagg, tgheen (muted), DruidSmith, +1.443.569.aaii, [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: ... BenediktKaempgen, +1.267.481.aagg, tgheen (muted), DruidSmith, +1.443.569.aaii, [IPcaller] ←
15:51:36 <rreck> zakim, mute me
Ronald Reck: zakim, mute me ←
15:51:36 <Zakim> rreck should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should now be muted ←
15:51:55 <mikep> George: Did anyone get a chance to look a provenance?
George Thomas: Did anyone get a chance to look a provenance? ←
15:51:58 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
15:52:08 <olyerickson> RE Provenance new releases: Link?
John Erickson: RE Provenance new releases: Link? ←
15:53:01 <HadleyBeeman> I had a quick review of them and found them interesting for us in LinkedGov… but not with the GLD in mind. (Sorry)
Hadley Beeman: I had a quick review of them and found them interesting for us in LinkedGov… but not with the GLD in mind. (Sorry) ←
15:53:43 <olyerickson> Links to recent PROV-WG drafts http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.12.22 (from their recent minutes)
John Erickson: Links to recent PROV-WG drafts http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.12.22 (from their recent minutes) ←
15:54:43 <mikep> George and Sandro to look into AV tech for the F2F
George and Sandro to look into AV tech for the F2F ←
15:54:59 <rreck> zakim, unmute me
Ronald Reck: zakim, unmute me ←
15:54:59 <Zakim> rreck should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should no longer be muted ←
15:55:10 <raphael> The PROV Model Primer is the most interesting document for a first approach
Raphaël Troncy: The PROV Model Primer is the most interesting document for a first approach ←
15:55:13 <raphael> ... see http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/primer/fpwd/Primer.html
Raphaël Troncy: ... see http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/primer/fpwd/Primer.html ←
15:55:27 <mikep> George: Other considerations?
George Thomas: Other considerations? ←
15:55:49 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
15:56:05 <George> ack HadleyBeeman
George Thomas: ack HadleyBeeman ←
15:56:21 <annew> anne's gotta go. good summary ron on stability!
Anne Washington: anne's gotta go. good summary ron on stability! ←
15:56:26 <annew> bye
Anne Washington: bye ←
15:56:38 <George> HadleyBeeman: agenda section to address liason/overlap activity checklist suggested
Hadley Beeman: agenda section to address liason/overlap activity checklist suggested [ Scribe Assist by George Thomas ] ←
15:56:47 <mikep> Hadley: Might help to consider at each meeting to go over overlap from other groups (ex: provenance, e-gov)
Hadley Beeman: Might help to consider at each meeting to go over overlap from other groups (ex: provenance, e-gov) ←
15:57:00 <Zakim> -DruidSmith
Zakim IRC Bot: -DruidSmith ←
15:57:14 <olyerickson> Thanks as always, George!
John Erickson: Thanks as always, George! ←
15:57:25 <Zakim> - +1.443.569.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.443.569.aaii ←
15:57:27 <Zakim> -GeraldSteeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -GeraldSteeman ←
15:57:28 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks
Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks ←
15:57:30 <olyerickson> Here's to productivity...
John Erickson: Here's to productivity... ←
15:57:30 <BartvanLeeuwen> bye
Bart van Leeuwen: bye ←
15:57:31 <Zakim> -tgheen
Zakim IRC Bot: -tgheen ←
15:57:32 <raphael> thanks, bye
Raphaël Troncy: thanks, bye ←
15:57:33 <Zakim> -sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -sandro ←
15:57:37 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
15:57:38 <Zakim> -fadmaa
Zakim IRC Bot: -fadmaa ←
15:57:43 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
15:57:47 <Zakim> -raphael
Zakim IRC Bot: -raphael ←
15:57:49 <Zakim> -olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←
15:57:51 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
15:57:53 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen ←
15:57:55 <Zakim> - +1.267.481.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.267.481.aagg ←
15:57:58 <rreck> zakim, unmute me
Ronald Reck: zakim, unmute me ←
15:57:58 <Zakim> rreck was not muted, rreck
Zakim IRC Bot: rreck was not muted, rreck ←
15:58:37 <George> Scribe: Mike
15:58:48 <rreck> i dont think you need them
Ronald Reck: i dont think you need them ←
15:59:28 <mikep> scribe: Mikep
16:00:33 <George> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
George Thomas: RRSAgent, set logs world-visible ←
16:00:47 <George> RRSAgent, generate minutes
George Thomas: RRSAgent, generate minutes ←
16:00:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/05-gld-minutes.html George
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/05-gld-minutes.html George ←
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