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14:52:38 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/11/10-gld-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/11/10-gld-irc ←
14:52:40 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
14:52:42 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD ←
14:52:42 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot ←
14:52:43 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:52:43 <trackbot> Date: 10 November 2011
14:53:26 <Yigal> scribe:Yigal
(Scribe set to Yigal Arens)
14:53:46 <Yigal> zakim, scribe:Yigal
zakim, scribe:Yigal ←
14:53:46 <Zakim> I don't understand 'scribe:Yigal', Yigal
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'scribe:Yigal', Yigal ←
14:54:31 <Yigal> agenda:http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.10
14:55:22 <Yigal> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.10
14:55:32 <Yigal> Thanks!
Thanks! ←
14:55:44 <Yigal> scribe: Yigal
14:56:00 <HadleyBeeman> Hi all!
Hadley Beeman: Hi all! ←
14:57:18 <Yigal> chair: bhyland
14:58:22 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, this is gld
Hadley Beeman: zakim, this is gld ←
14:58:23 <Zakim> ok, HadleyBeeman; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, HadleyBeeman; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM ←
14:58:34 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the call?
John Erickson: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:58:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], +1.440.389.aaaa, bhyland, ??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see [IPcaller], +1.440.389.aaaa, bhyland, ??P18 ←
14:58:36 <bhyland> zakim, who is on call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on call? ←
14:58:37 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bhyland.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, bhyland. ←
14:58:42 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaaa is me
Hadley Beeman: zakim, aaaa is me ←
14:58:42 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman; got it ←
14:58:43 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:58:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], HadleyBeeman, bhyland, ??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see [IPcaller], HadleyBeeman, bhyland, ??P18 ←
14:58:57 <olyerickson> Zakim, ??p18 is me.
John Erickson: Zakim, ??p18 is me. ←
14:58:57 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it ←
14:59:43 <Yigal> zakim, [IPcaller] is Yigal
zakim, [IPcaller] is Yigal ←
14:59:43 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it ←
14:59:44 <olyerickson> zakim, who is speaking?
John Erickson: zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:59:56 <Zakim> olyerickson, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: olyerickson (100%)
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: olyerickson (100%) ←
15:00:27 <Zakim> + +1.781.899.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.781.899.aabb ←
15:00:36 <sandro> zakim, aabb is Sandro
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aabb is Sandro ←
15:00:37 <Zakim> +Sandro; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro; got it ←
15:00:39 <BartvanLeeuwen> hmm my sip client fails to work :(
Bart van Leeuwen: hmm my sip client fails to work :( ←
15:00:45 <Zakim> + +49.721.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.721.aacc ←
15:00:49 <Zakim> + +1.757.604.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.757.604.aadd ←
15:00:53 <PhilA2> zakim, code?
Phil Archer: zakim, code? ←
15:00:57 <Zakim> +cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri ←
15:01:05 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri really is me
Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cygri really is me ←
15:01:11 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2 ←
15:01:25 <Zakim> I don't understand 'cygri really is me', mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'cygri really is me', mhausenblas ←
15:01:32 <mhausenblas> Zakim, I am cygri
Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, I am cygri ←
15:01:35 <olyerickson> mute me
John Erickson: mute me ←
15:01:35 <BenediktKaempgen> Zakim, aacc is BenediktKaempgen
Benedikt Kaempgen: Zakim, aacc is BenediktKaempgen ←
15:01:47 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with cygri ←
15:01:49 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.
John Erickson: zakim, mute me. ←
15:01:51 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it ←
15:01:56 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with me
Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cygri is with me ←
15:02:01 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who's here?
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here? ←
15:02:03 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted ←
15:02:11 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←
15:02:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see Yigal, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, olyerickson (muted), Sandro, BenediktKaempgen, +1.757.604.aadd, cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Yigal, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, olyerickson (muted), Sandro, BenediktKaempgen, +1.757.604.aadd, cygri ←
15:02:36 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, cygri ←
15:02:37 <olyerickson> zakim, what wine would you recommend with a roast duck?
John Erickson: zakim, what wine would you recommend with a roast duck? ←
15:02:38 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:02:40 <PhilA2> zakim, ipcaller is me
Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
15:02:51 <GeraldSteeman> Zakim, aadd is me.
Gerald Steeman: Zakim, aadd is me. ←
15:03:02 <PhilA2> zakim, please work a little faster
Phil Archer: zakim, please work a little faster ←
15:03:04 <Zakim> On IRC I see GeraldSteeman, cygri_, annew, PhilA2, Zakim, RRSAgent, HadleyBeeman, olyerickson, Yigal, mhausenblas, bhyland, MacTed, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, cygri,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see GeraldSteeman, cygri_, annew, PhilA2, Zakim, RRSAgent, HadleyBeeman, olyerickson, Yigal, mhausenblas, bhyland, MacTed, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, cygri, ←
15:03:11 <Zakim> ... trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot, sandro ←
15:03:13 <Zakim> +Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory ←
15:03:27 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, olyerickson.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, olyerickson. ←
15:03:29 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA2; got it ←
15:03:30 <sandro> member-gld-wg@w3.org
Sandro Hawke: member-gld-wg@w3.org ←
15:03:49 <Zakim> +GeraldSteeman; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +GeraldSteeman; got it ←
15:03:59 <Zakim> I don't understand 'please work a little faster', PhilA2
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'please work a little faster', PhilA2 ←
15:04:18 <rreck> echo is often a product of noise cancellation math
Ronald Reck: echo is often a product of noise cancellation math ←
15:04:21 <Yigal> bhyland: Sending email re community directory
Bernadette Hyland: Sending email re community directory ←
15:04:26 <Zakim> + +1.703.292.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.703.292.aaee ←
15:04:38 <olyerickson> +1 to starting...
John Erickson: +1 to starting... ←
15:04:40 <Zakim> + +1.218.296.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.218.296.aaff ←
15:04:59 <bhyland> zakim, who on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who on the call? ←
15:05:04 <rreck> zakim, +1.218.296.aaff is me
Ronald Reck: zakim, +1.218.296.aaff is me ←
15:05:09 <tgheen> Zakim, aaee is me
Tina Gheen: Zakim, aaee is me ←
15:05:16 <cygri> zakim, who is on the call?
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:05:20 <rreck> zakim seems slow today
Ronald Reck: zakim seems slow today ←
15:05:24 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bhyland.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, bhyland. ←
15:05:26 <Zakim> +rreck; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +rreck; got it ←
15:05:30 <Zakim> +tgheen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +tgheen; got it ←
15:05:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see Yigal, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, olyerickson (muted), Sandro, BenediktKaempgen, GeraldSteeman, cygri, PhilA2, Cory, tgheen, rreck
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Yigal, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, olyerickson (muted), Sandro, BenediktKaempgen, GeraldSteeman, cygri, PhilA2, Cory, tgheen, rreck ←
15:05:43 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, cygri ←
15:06:01 <cygri> zakim, cygri is mhausenblas
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, cygri is mhausenblas ←
15:06:01 <olyerickson> Zakim, who is muted?
John Erickson: Zakim, who is muted? ←
15:06:04 <rreck> zakim, mute me
Ronald Reck: zakim, mute me ←
15:06:07 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas; got it ←
15:06:09 <Zakim> I see olyerickson muted
Zakim IRC Bot: I see olyerickson muted ←
15:06:15 <Zakim> rreck should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should now be muted ←
15:06:16 <cygri> zakim, who is with mhausenblas?
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is with mhausenblas? ←
15:06:19 <Zakim> mhausenblas has cygri, cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has cygri, cygri ←
15:06:37 <cygri> zakim, i am with mhausenblas
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, i am with mhausenblas ←
15:06:37 <Zakim> cygri was already listed in mhausenblas, cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri was already listed in mhausenblas, cygri ←
15:08:09 <Yigal> bhyland: Think about relevance of this wg
Bernadette Hyland: Think about relevance of this wg ←
15:08:31 <olyerickson> Minutes link?
John Erickson: Minutes link? ←
15:08:34 <bhyland> Move to accept minutes from last week, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-11-03
Bernadette Hyland: Move to accept minutes from last week, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-11-03 ←
15:08:43 <mhausenblas> +1
Michael Hausenblas: +1 ←
15:08:52 <Yigal> +1
+1 ←
15:09:13 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/
Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/ ←
15:09:15 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
15:09:19 <HadleyBeeman> (for the minutes)
Hadley Beeman: (for the minutes) ←
15:10:12 <olyerickson> unmute
John Erickson: unmute ←
15:10:17 <Yigal> TOPIC: Review action items
15:10:20 <sandro> zakim, unmute olyerickson
Sandro Hawke: zakim, unmute olyerickson ←
15:10:20 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted ←
15:10:53 <Yigal> olyerickson: Has only spoken locally, so slow on action items
John Erickson: Has only spoken locally, so slow on action items ←
15:10:54 <olyerickson> Yes please continue bugging ,e
John Erickson: Yes please continue bugging me ←
15:11:05 <olyerickson> s/,e/me/
15:11:18 <olyerickson> Yes please keep my action open
John Erickson: Yes please keep my action open ←
15:11:32 <olyerickson> zakim, please mute me.
John Erickson: zakim, please mute me. ←
15:11:32 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted ←
15:13:11 <Zakim> +??P60
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P60 ←
15:13:31 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P60 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??P60 is me ←
15:13:32 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
15:13:59 <sandro> cygri: re Action-14 nope, no videoconf facility at DERI
Richard Cyganiak: re ACTION-14 nope, no videoconf facility at DERI [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:14:06 <cygri> zakim, who is noisy?
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is noisy? ←
15:14:17 <Zakim> cygri, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yigal (25%), bhyland (35%), Sandro (14%)
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yigal (25%), bhyland (35%), Sandro (14%) ←
15:14:39 <olyerickson> +1 to poll
John Erickson: +1 to poll ←
15:14:46 <BenediktKaempgen> +1 to poll
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 to poll ←
15:14:49 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 on the poll
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 on the poll ←
15:14:56 <rreck> filled out what?
Ronald Reck: filled out what? ←
15:15:05 <GeraldSteeman> +1 did the poll
Gerald Steeman: +1 did the poll ←
15:15:12 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47663/f2f2_location/results
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47663/f2f2_location/results ←
15:15:19 <sandro> rreck, fill out http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47663/f2f2_location/
Sandro Hawke: rreck, fill out http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47663/f2f2_location/ ←
15:15:22 <PhilA2> I've filled it in (if I were American, I might have filled it out)
Phil Archer: I've filled it in (if I were American, I might have filled it out) ←
15:15:30 <Yigal> bhyland: from poll -- 14 people can make f2f, 1 cannot
Bernadette Hyland: from poll -- 14 people can make f2f, 1 cannot ←
15:16:57 <Zakim> + +91.11.41.29.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +91.11.41.29.aagg ←
15:17:18 <Yigal> bhyland: will look into results of poll further
Bernadette Hyland: will look into results of poll further ←
15:17:20 <GeraldSteeman> My "no" is really a "I'm going to try to get to DC, but not sure yet."
Gerald Steeman: My "no" is really a "I'm going to try to get to DC, but not sure yet." ←
15:17:29 <Yigal> sandro: looks like won't be better to move f2f to dc
Sandro Hawke: looks like won't be better to move f2f to dc ←
15:18:10 <Yigal> sandro: default would seem to be galway
Sandro Hawke: default would seem to be galway ←
15:18:34 <Yigal> sandro: details would determine if we make dc secondary site
Sandro Hawke: details would determine if we make dc secondary site ←
15:18:39 <rreck> i responded but it still regards me a non-responder
Ronald Reck: i responded but it still regards me a non-responder ←
15:19:18 <Yigal> TOPIC: f2f planning (should have come earlier)
15:19:30 <sandro> rreck, it has your response, it's just cacheing too much in showing you.
Sandro Hawke: rreck, it has your response, it's just cacheing too much in showing you. ←
15:19:53 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on mute?
John Erickson: zakim, who is on mute? ←
15:19:53 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, olyerickson.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, olyerickson. ←
15:19:54 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:20:03 <olyerickson> zAKIM, WHO IS MUTED?
John Erickson: zAKIM, WHO IS MUTED? ←
15:20:03 <Zakim> I see olyerickson, rreck muted
Zakim IRC Bot: I see olyerickson, rreck muted ←
15:20:07 <Yigal> TOPIC: review of deliverables
15:20:51 <sandro> dir.w3.org
Sandro Hawke: dir.w3.org ←
15:20:57 <sandro> http://dir.w3.org
Sandro Hawke: http://dir.w3.org ←
15:20:57 <Yigal> bhyland: worked on getting community directory on w3c domain. it's now up.
Bernadette Hyland: worked on getting community directory on w3c domain. it's now up. ←
15:22:14 <Yigal> bhyland: wants more input from those with relevant experience, so doesn't consider it done
Bernadette Hyland: wants more input from those with relevant experience, so doesn't consider it done ←
15:22:29 <Yigal> bhyland: 5000 hits within short time
Bernadette Hyland: 5000 hits within short time ←
15:23:18 <Yigal> bhyland: ~6 people asked for logins
Bernadette Hyland: ~6 people asked for logins ←
15:23:50 <rreck> i have an approach but dont know how it could run on w3 machines
Ronald Reck: i have an approach but dont know how it could run on w3 machines ←
15:23:53 <Yigal> bhyland: still figuring out how to best handle that matter
Bernadette Hyland: still figuring out how to best handle that matter ←
15:24:10 <rreck> i can discuss it with you offline. it should be pretty simple to do.
Ronald Reck: i can discuss it with you offline. it should be pretty simple to do. ←
15:24:24 <olyerickson> FYI, David Wood's email announcement: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2011Nov/0034.html
John Erickson: FYI, David Wood's email announcement: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2011Nov/0034.html ←
15:24:37 <Yigal> bhyland: opinions and thoughts on this are welcome.
Bernadette Hyland: opinions and thoughts on this are welcome. ←
15:24:59 <rreck> i can talk to you at Semtech if you want.
Ronald Reck: i can talk to you at Semtech if you want. ←
15:25:30 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:25:33 <rreck> i have thoughts but dont want to digress
Ronald Reck: i have thoughts but dont want to digress ←
15:25:50 <olyerickson> How may subscribers on the pubic-lod list?
John Erickson: How may subscribers on the pubic-lod list? ←
15:26:04 <olyerickson> s/pubic/pubic/
15:26:04 <PhilA2> I really like the directory and I'm looking forward to seeing it evolve
Phil Archer: I really like the directory and I'm looking forward to seeing it evolve ←
15:26:20 <olyerickson> s/pubic/public/
15:26:50 <Yigal> HadleyBeeman: It's helpful to have a sense of who's involved. More important to be clear to outside world about our goals and accomplishments.
Hadley Beeman: It's helpful to have a sense of who's involved. More important to be clear to outside world about our goals and accomplishments. ←
15:26:52 <olyerickson> +1 to directory concept, but it can't be the only thing
John Erickson: +1 to directory concept, but it can't be the only thing ←
15:27:08 <rreck> +1 hadley's idea of a plan
Ronald Reck: +1 hadley's idea of a plan ←
15:27:17 <olyerickson> the break-out topics are the "small conversations" that held build the community
John Erickson: the break-out topics are the "small conversations" that held build the community ←
15:28:03 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me
John Erickson: zakim, unmute me ←
15:28:03 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted ←
15:28:09 <olyerickson> q+
John Erickson: q+ ←
15:29:21 <Yigal> HadleyBeeman: Need to be clear on who our target audience is, and that we're building something that will be picked up and used.
Hadley Beeman: Need to be clear on who our target audience is, and that we're building something that will be picked up and used. ←
15:31:19 <Yigal> bhyland: Believes best practices is for people who want to get started. It's not targeted at information managers, at department and CIO level.
Bernadette Hyland: Believes best practices is for people who want to get started. It's not targeted at information managers, at department and CIO level. ←
15:31:47 <olyerickson> q?
John Erickson: q? ←
15:32:01 <sandro> q+
Sandro Hawke: q+ ←
15:32:18 <PhilA2> ack olyerickson
Phil Archer: ack olyerickson ←
15:33:25 <PhilA2> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
15:34:44 <HadleyBeeman> Point of clarification: are we reassessing our charter, or checking on details/emphases within it?
Hadley Beeman: Point of clarification: are we reassessing our charter, or checking on details/emphases within it? ←
15:34:57 <bhyland> olyerickson: I'm concerned that the work of the GLD WG is too narrowly focused. We're not focusing on the low hanging fruit, the people who want to supply 1 star data & get it discovered. Has to do with data set catalog, listing data sets, using other forms of semantic markup.
John Erickson: I'm concerned that the work of the GLD WG is too narrowly focused. We're not focusing on the low hanging fruit, the people who want to supply 1 star data & get it discovered. Has to do with data set catalog, listing data sets, using other forms of semantic markup. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
15:36:09 <olyerickson> I hear you ;)
John Erickson: I hear you ;) ←
15:36:17 <Yigal> bhyland: WG focus is on explaining the value proposition.
Bernadette Hyland: WG focus is on explaining the value proposition. ←
15:36:41 <Biplav> Sorry for ignorance, but what is ADMS?
Biplav Srivastava: Sorry for ignorance, but what is ADMS? ←
15:36:47 <bhyland> This working group is focused on 4 & 5 star Linked Data and clearly articulating the value proposition, along with best practices to achieve that.
Bernadette Hyland: This working group is focused on 4 & 5 star Linked Data and clearly articulating the value proposition, along with best practices to achieve that. ←
15:36:55 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:37:12 <PhilA2> acl sandro
Phil Archer: acl sandro ←
15:37:18 <PhilA2> ack sandro
Phil Archer: ack sandro ←
15:37:45 <olyerickson> sandro: GLD WG is about the how, not the why
Sandro Hawke: GLD WG is about the how, not the why [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ] ←
15:37:50 <Yigal> sandro: Key thing we should do is the "how" not the "why". We need to decide how to do it in cases where that has not been determined.
Sandro Hawke: Key thing we should do is the "how" not the "why". We need to decide how to do it in cases where that has not been determined. ←
15:37:56 <Biplav> What does the acronym ADMS stand for?
Biplav Srivastava: What does the acronym ADMS stand for? ←
15:37:57 <bhyland> Sandro: I think the group should be the "how", not the why. We have decide & document the *hows*, especially when not documented.
Sandro Hawke: I think the group should be the "how", not the why. We have decide & document the *hows*, especially when not documented. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
15:38:26 <mhausenblas> re ADMS, see http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/snav/network/Communities/ADMS.xhtml
Michael Hausenblas: re ADMS, see http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/snav/network/Communities/ADMS.xhtml ←
15:38:29 <Yigal> bhyland: The areas she's agreed to facilitate are community directory and best practices.
Bernadette Hyland: The areas she's agreed to facilitate are community directory and best practices. ←
15:39:18 <Yigal> bhyland: NIEM is XML vocabulary for allowing local agencies to exchange information.
Bernadette Hyland: NIEM is XML vocabulary for allowing local agencies to exchange information. ←
15:39:33 <Cory-c> and one that can map to RDF
Cory Casanave: and one that can map to RDF ←
15:40:01 <rreck> I am interested in NIEM and RDF
Ronald Reck: I am interested in NIEM and RDF ←
15:40:07 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
15:40:18 <Yigal> Cory-c: Will map easily to RDF. Working on proof of concept.
Cory Casanave: Will map easily to RDF. Working on proof of concept. ←
15:40:33 <bhyland> NIEM = National Information Exchange Model, see https://www.niem.gov/Pages/default.aspx
Bernadette Hyland: NIEM = National Information Exchange Model, see https://www.niem.gov/Pages/default.aspx ←
15:40:57 <bhyland> Per the website, "NIEM makes it possible for organizations to share critical data; as a result, people are empowered to make informed decisions that improve efficiency and help organizations advance their missions."
Bernadette Hyland: Per the website, "NIEM makes it possible for organizations to share critical data; as a result, people are empowered to make informed decisions that improve efficiency and help organizations advance their missions." ←
15:41:05 <Yigal> Cory-c: If people are interested in RDF representation, would like to get together with them.
Cory Casanave: If people are interested in RDF representation, would like to get together with them. ←
15:41:29 <rreck> please include me
Ronald Reck: please include me ←
15:41:32 <rreck> Darth
Ronald Reck: Darth ←
15:41:35 <Biplav> I will be interested
Biplav Srivastava: I will be interested ←
15:41:36 <rreck> yes
Ronald Reck: yes ←
15:41:40 <rreck> Vadar
Ronald Reck: Vadar ←
15:41:47 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who's speaking?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who's speaking? ←
15:41:58 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yigal (19%), bhyland (100%), PhilA2 (4%)
Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yigal (19%), bhyland (100%), PhilA2 (4%) ←
15:42:22 <olyerickson> Darth: zakim, I am your father...
Scribe problem: the name 'Darth' does not match any of the 57 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Elena Montiel Ponsoda Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Darth: zakim, I am your father... [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ] ←
15:42:33 <PhilA2> zakim, mute Yigal
Phil Archer: zakim, mute Yigal ←
15:42:33 <Zakim> Yigal should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Yigal should now be muted ←
15:42:34 <rreck> use the src
Ronald Reck: use the src ←
15:42:44 <PhilA2> zakim, unmute Yigal
Phil Archer: zakim, unmute Yigal ←
15:42:44 <Zakim> Yigal should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Yigal should no longer be muted ←
15:43:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> I'm interested in the emergency management ofcourse
Bart van Leeuwen: I'm interested in the emergency management ofcourse ←
15:43:06 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to internationalisation of vocabularies
Hadley Beeman: +1 to internationalisation of vocabularies ←
15:43:13 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:43:32 <PhilA2> http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/snav/Conformance.xhtml
Phil Archer: http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/snav/Conformance.xhtml ←
15:44:43 <Yigal> PhilA2: Interested in the vocabulary work.
Phil Archer: Interested in the vocabulary work. ←
15:44:55 <PhilA2> ADMS is here http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/snav/network/Communities/ADMS.xhtml
Phil Archer: ADMS is here http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/snav/network/Communities/ADMS.xhtml ←
15:45:09 <olyerickson> See also the draft: http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/documents/adms-specification-v0.6.html
John Erickson: See also the draft: http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/documents/adms-specification-v0.6.html ←
15:45:19 <PhilA2> Asset Description Metadata Schema
Phil Archer: Asset Description Metadata Schema ←
15:46:00 <Yigal> PhilA2: ADMS is concept scheme not namespace.
Phil Archer: ADMS is concept scheme not namespace. ←
15:46:18 <Cory-c> I would like to add that there is a strong push for NIEM to expand past the U.S., this is going on now.
Cory Casanave: I would like to add that there is a strong push for NIEM to expand past the U.S., this is going on now. ←
15:46:48 <rreck> i did GJXDM too
Ronald Reck: i did GJXDM too ←
15:47:05 <olyerickson> zaim, unmute me.
John Erickson: zaim, unmute me. ←
15:47:12 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
John Erickson: zakim, unmute me. ←
15:47:12 <Zakim> olyerickson was not muted, olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson was not muted, olyerickson ←
15:47:27 <Yigal> bhyland: PhilA and Cory, will one take an action item to form a task group to work on this?
Bernadette Hyland: PhilA and Cory, will one take an action item to form a task group to work on this? ←
15:47:36 <olyerickson> I'm like to be involved in that
John Erickson: I'm like to be involved in that ←
15:47:41 <olyerickson> q+
John Erickson: q+ ←
15:47:50 <PhilA2> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
15:48:36 <olyerickson> I suggest we start by adding "and ADMS" where ever "DCAT" is mentioned...
John Erickson: I suggest we start by adding "and ADMS" where ever "DCAT" is mentioned... ←
15:48:36 <Yigal> bhyland: Just start modifying a wiki page, put together an outline, call a meeting with the task force using zakim.
Bernadette Hyland: Just start modifying a wiki page, put together an outline, call a meeting with the task force using zakim. ←
15:49:01 <rreck> i think an initial paragraph that scopes the topic helps. (my 2 cents)
Ronald Reck: i think an initial paragraph that scopes the topic helps. (my 2 cents) ←
15:49:51 <Yigal> bhyland: Happy to be a catalyst.
Bernadette Hyland: Happy to be a catalyst. ←
15:50:11 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
15:50:22 <bhyland> ACTION: Cory-c agreed to facilitate NIEM discussion and get outline started working with bhyland.
ACTION: Cory-c agreed to facilitate NIEM discussion and get outline started working with bhyland. ←
15:50:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Agreed to facilitate NIEM discussion and get outline started working with bhyland. [on Cory Casanave - due 2011-11-17].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-16 - Agreed to facilitate NIEM discussion and get outline started working with bhyland. [on Cory Casanave - due 2011-11-17]. ←
15:51:14 <bhyland> ACTION: PhilA2 agreed to be catalyst for drafting wiki page on relevant vocab work on Person, Address, Business.
ACTION: PhilA2 agreed to be catalyst for drafting wiki page on relevant vocab work on Person, Address, Business. ←
15:51:14 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - PhilA2
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - PhilA2 ←
15:51:17 <Yigal> Cory-c: Will add relevant content to the wiki. Working on person, address, business.
Cory Casanave: Will add relevant content to the wiki. Working on person, address, business. ←
15:51:42 <bhyland> ACTION: Archer agreed to be catalyst for drafting wiki page on relevant vocab work on Person, Address, Business.
ACTION: Archer agreed to be catalyst for drafting wiki page on relevant vocab work on Person, Address, Business. ←
15:51:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Agreed to be catalyst for drafting wiki page on relevant vocab work on Person, Address, Business. [on Phil Archer - due 2011-11-17].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-17 - Agreed to be catalyst for drafting wiki page on relevant vocab work on Person, Address, Business. [on Phil Archer - due 2011-11-17]. ←
15:52:15 <bhyland> ACTION: olyerickson agreed to facilitate initial wiki draft on Vocab page on VCAT.
ACTION: olyerickson agreed to facilitate initial wiki draft on Vocab page on VCAT. ←
15:52:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Agreed to facilitate initial wiki draft on Vocab page on VCAT. [on John Erickson - due 2011-11-17].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-18 - Agreed to facilitate initial wiki draft on Vocab page on DCAT. [on John Erickson - due 2011-11-17]. ←
15:52:25 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to building a wiki page compiling the existing vocabularies and what actions we need to take on them.
Hadley Beeman: +1 to building a wiki page compiling the existing vocabularies and what actions we need to take on them. ←
15:53:11 <PhilA2> s/VCAT/DCAT/
15:53:44 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
15:53:45 <olyerickson> q-
John Erickson: q- ←
15:54:03 <Biplav> q+
Biplav Srivastava: q+ ←
15:54:54 <Yigal> HadleyBeeman: Interested in international standards, looking at applicability of English standards.
Hadley Beeman: Interested in international standards, looking at applicability of English standards. ←
15:55:29 <Yigal> bhyland: like what Phil described?
Bernadette Hyland: like what Phil described? ←
15:55:32 <bhyland> HadleyBeeman: Discussed international applicability of meta-vocabularies for English speaking users. Focusing on what we have in common, like what Phil said earlier, without recreating the wheel.
Hadley Beeman: Discussed international applicability of meta-vocabularies for English speaking users. Focusing on what we have in common, like what Phil said earlier, without recreating the wheel. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
15:55:33 <Yigal> HadleyBeeman: Yes.
Hadley Beeman: Yes. ←
15:56:05 <Yigal> bhyland: Would be useful even for things as basic as addresses.
Bernadette Hyland: Would be useful even for things as basic as addresses. ←
15:56:40 <Yigal> bhyland: If you're into addresses, please comment.
Bernadette Hyland: If you're into addresses, please comment. ←
15:56:41 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:56:44 <HadleyBeeman> ack me
Hadley Beeman: ack me ←
15:56:50 <PhilA2> zakim, who is making noise?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is making noise? ←
15:57:00 <Zakim> PhilA2, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: olyerickson (93%)
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA2, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: olyerickson (93%) ←
15:57:06 <Yigal> cygri: Regarding DCAT and stepping on toes, not to worry.
Richard Cyganiak: Regarding DCAT and stepping on toes, not to worry. ←
15:58:12 <PhilA2> Thanks cygri
Phil Archer: Thanks cygri ←
15:58:15 <bhyland> cygri: We welcome feedback!
Richard Cyganiak: We welcome feedback! [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
15:58:17 <olyerickson> +1 to thanks
John Erickson: +1 to thanks ←
15:58:30 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.
John Erickson: zakim, mute me. ←
15:58:30 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted ←
15:58:31 <BartvanLeeuwen> +q
Bart van Leeuwen: +q ←
15:58:40 <PhilA2> ack cygri
Phil Archer: ack cygri ←
15:58:50 <PhilA2> ack Biplav
Phil Archer: ack Biplav ←
15:59:25 <bhyland> biplav: Was looking at vocabulary deliverable and thought it was top down. Discussed entity extraction … comment, are we considering how to use info extractions technologies?
Biplav Srivastava: Was looking at vocabulary deliverable and thought it was top down. Discussed entity extraction … comment, are we considering how to use info extractions technologies? [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
15:59:31 <Yigal> Biplav: Are we considering recommending how to use info extraction to discover vocabularies?
Biplav Srivastava: Are we considering recommending how to use info extraction to discover vocabularies? ←
15:59:34 <Yigal> bhyland: No.
Bernadette Hyland: No. ←
16:00:16 <olyerickson> That's eGov IG stuff
John Erickson: That's eGov IG stuff ←
16:00:22 <olyerickson> (I believe)
John Erickson: (I believe) ←
16:00:30 <PhilA2> +1 to olyerickson
Phil Archer: +1 to olyerickson ←
16:00:31 <Yigal> Biplav: There are cities that have opened up their data. Will we have a deliverable that is a guideline on a roadmap for this?
Biplav Srivastava: There are cities that have opened up their data. Will we have a deliverable that is a guideline on a roadmap for this? ←
16:00:46 <Yigal> bhyland: Best practices is supposed to do that.
Bernadette Hyland: Best practices is supposed to do that. ←
16:01:28 <cygri> +1 to olyerickson. that's my understanding too
Richard Cyganiak: +1 to olyerickson. that's my understanding too ←
16:01:48 <olyerickson> q+
John Erickson: q+ ←
16:01:54 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
John Erickson: zakim, unmute me. ←
16:01:54 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted ←
16:01:55 <Yigal> bhyland: "Roadmap" is a synonym for what we're contemplating. Should be useful, not a stagnant spec that doesn't get updated.
Bernadette Hyland: "Roadmap" is a synonym for what we're contemplating. Should be useful, not a stagnant spec that doesn't get updated. ←
16:02:29 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
16:03:15 <Yigal> bhyland: Can we assign Biplav an action item to deal with this?
Bernadette Hyland: Can we assign Biplav an action item to deal with this? ←
16:03:27 <Yigal> Biplav: Yes.
Biplav Srivastava: Yes. ←
16:04:09 <Yigal> BartvanLeeuwen: Would like to be more involved, looking for how he can be of practical help.
Bart van Leeuwen: Would like to be more involved, looking for how he can be of practical help. ←
16:04:12 <cygri> BartvanLeeuwen: *what* would you like to do? ;-)
Bart van Leeuwen: *what* would you like to do? ;-) [ Scribe Assist by Richard Cyganiak ] ←
16:04:25 <Yigal> bhyland: Bart has experience with use cases.
Bernadette Hyland: Bart has experience with use cases. ←
16:04:37 <bhyland> ACTION: Biplav agreed to document some use cases for "roadmap" scenarios for localities contemplating putting content on the LoD.
ACTION: Biplav agreed to document some use cases for "roadmap" scenarios for localities contemplating putting content on the LoD. ←
16:04:37 <trackbot> Created ACTION-19 - Agreed to document some use cases for "roadmap" scenarios for localities contemplating putting content on the LoD. [on Biplav Srivastava - due 2011-11-17].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-19 - Agreed to document some use cases for "roadmap" scenarios for localities contemplating putting content on the LoD. [on Biplav Srivastava - due 2011-11-17]. ←
16:04:50 <Yigal> BartvanLeeuwen: Would it be good to have fire department data available?
Bart van Leeuwen: Would it be good to have fire department data available? ←
16:05:17 <Yigal> bhyland: Will create a page for Bart and Diplav to work on. Bart can drive some of the use cases -- has great ones.
Bernadette Hyland: Will create a page for Bart and Diplav to work on. Bart can drive some of the use cases -- has great ones. ←
16:05:24 <olyerickson> +1 to BartvanLeeuwen and Biplav working together on the "real, useful" stuff
John Erickson: +1 to BartvanLeeuwen and Biplav working together on the "real, useful" stuff ←
16:05:29 <olyerickson> Bart needs to mute
John Erickson: Bart needs to mute ←
16:05:40 <bhyland> ACTION: Bhyland to mint wiki page for localities use cases, linked off the Best Practices deliverable.
ACTION: Bhyland to mint wiki page for localities use cases, linked off the Best Practices deliverable. ←
16:05:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-20 - Mint wiki page for localities use cases, linked off the Best Practices deliverable. [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-11-17].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-20 - Mint wiki page for localities use cases, linked off the Best Practices deliverable. [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-11-17]. ←
16:05:48 <BartvanLeeuwen> -q
Bart van Leeuwen: -q ←
16:05:51 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
16:06:14 <Yigal> olyerickson: Met with Brazilian colleague behind wikicrimes site.
John Erickson: Met with Brazilian colleague behind wikicrimes site. ←
16:07:06 <olyerickson> I wasn't going to suggest adding him
John Erickson: I wasn't going to suggest adding him ←
16:07:09 <Yigal> olyerickson: Heard about crime data. Will look at the page and add to it.
John Erickson: Heard about crime data. Will look at the page and add to it. ←
16:07:15 <olyerickson> I was going to suggest pointing him at it
John Erickson: I was going to suggest pointing him at it ←
16:07:31 <Yigal> bhyland: Please update scribes page and regrets.
Bernadette Hyland: Please update scribes page and regrets. ←
16:07:41 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.10#Scribe.27s_End_of_Meeting_Checklist
Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.10#Scribe.27s_End_of_Meeting_Checklist ←
16:07:57 <Yigal> bhyland: Email announcements to her and she'll add to agenda.
Bernadette Hyland: Email announcements to her and she'll add to agenda. ←
16:08:10 <Yigal> bhyland: Will get back to us soon about one or two f2f locations.
Bernadette Hyland: Will get back to us soon about one or two f2f locations. ←
16:08:30 <GeraldSteeman> Thanks to Bernadette for speaking to the CENDI group: www.cendi.gov
Gerald Steeman: Thanks to Bernadette for speaking to the CENDI group: www.cendi.gov ←
16:08:33 <Zakim> -Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: -Cory ←
16:08:36 <Yigal> bhyland: Adjourned.
Bernadette Hyland: Adjourned. ←
16:08:36 <olyerickson> Bye!
John Erickson: Bye! ←
16:08:37 <BartvanLeeuwen> okay bye
Bart van Leeuwen: okay bye ←
16:08:37 <bhyland> meeting adjourned.
Bernadette Hyland: meeting adjourned. ←
16:08:38 <Zakim> -PhilA2
Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA2 ←
16:08:40 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas ←
16:08:41 <Zakim> -tgheen
Zakim IRC Bot: -tgheen ←
16:08:42 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
16:08:42 <Zakim> -olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←
16:08:44 <annew> bye bye
Anne Washington: bye bye ←
16:08:45 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen ←
16:08:49 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
16:08:56 <Zakim> -GeraldSteeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -GeraldSteeman ←
16:09:02 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
16:10:02 <Yigal> rrsagent, generate minutes
rrsagent, generate minutes ←
16:10:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/10-gld-minutes.html Yigal
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/10-gld-minutes.html Yigal ←
16:11:07 <bhyland> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
Bernadette Hyland: RRSAgent, set logs world-visible ←
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