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13:54:52 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/10/13-gld-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/10/13-gld-irc ←
13:55:14 <TinaGheen> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:55:37 <TinaGheen> trackbot-ng, start telcon
Tina Gheen: trackbot-ng, start telcon ←
13:55:39 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
13:55:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD ←
13:55:42 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot ←
13:55:42 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:55:42 <trackbot> Date: 13 October 2011
13:55:56 <cgueret_work> hi there
Christophe Gueret: hi there ←
13:56:08 <TinaGheen> Zakim, This is T&S_GLDWG()
Tina Gheen: Zakim, This is T&S_GLDWG() ←
13:56:08 <Zakim> ok, TinaGheen; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, TinaGheen; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM ←
13:56:24 <George> zakim, who is present?
George Thomas: zakim, who is present? ←
13:56:24 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, George.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, George. ←
13:56:33 <TinaGheen> Chair: George
13:56:43 <TinaGheen> Scribe: TinaGheen
(Scribe set to Tina Gheen)
13:56:50 <Zakim> +bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland ←
13:56:51 <George> Zakim, who is here?
George Thomas: Zakim, who is here? ←
13:56:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see George, +1.703.292.aaaa, +1.757.604.aabb, ??P14, bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George, +1.703.292.aaaa, +1.757.604.aabb, ??P14, bhyland ←
13:56:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see bhyland, cgueret_work, RRSAgent, Zakim, martinAlvarez, Gerald_, George, TinaGheen, MacTed, cygri, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bhyland, cgueret_work, RRSAgent, Zakim, martinAlvarez, Gerald_, George, TinaGheen, MacTed, cygri, trackbot, sandro ←
13:56:56 <TinaGheen> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.10.13
13:57:09 <Gerald_> 757 is me
Gerald Steeman: 757 is me ←
13:57:23 <Zakim> +??P21
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P21 ←
13:57:26 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:57:30 <TinaGheen> Zakim, aaaa is me
Zakim, aaaa is me ←
13:57:30 <Zakim> +TinaGheen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +TinaGheen; got it ←
13:58:07 <Gerald_> aabb is me
Gerald Steeman: aabb is me ←
13:58:18 <BenediktKaempgen> Hi. Benedikt Kaempgen is connected through Skype and cannot tell Zakim who he is.
Benedikt Kaempgen: Hi. Benedikt Kaempgen is connected through Skype and cannot tell Zakim who he is. ←
13:58:22 <Gerald_> zakim, aabb is me
Gerald Steeman: zakim, aabb is me ←
13:58:23 <Zakim> +Gerald_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Gerald_; got it ←
13:59:12 <olyerickson> i'm here
John Erickson: i'm here ←
14:00:18 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?
John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see George, TinaGheen, Gerald_, ??P14, bhyland, ??P21, [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George, TinaGheen, Gerald_, ??P14, bhyland, ??P21, [IPcaller] ←
14:00:35 <boris> zakim, code?
Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, code? ←
14:00:35 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), boris
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), boris ←
14:00:44 <olyerickson> zakim, ??P21 is olyerickson
John Erickson: zakim, ??P21 is olyerickson ←
14:00:45 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it ←
14:01:11 <TinaGheen> Topic: Agenda from last week
14:01:24 <Zakim> +boris
Zakim IRC Bot: +boris ←
14:01:26 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.566.aacc ←
14:01:27 <TinaGheen> George: Minutes from last week were generated
George Thomas: Minutes from last week were generated ←
14:01:38 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
14:02:06 <Zakim> +Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory ←
14:02:08 <Zakim> +??P45
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P45 ←
14:02:14 <bhyland> Go to http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/?group=gld&go=Use+This+Group
Bernadette Hyland: Go to http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/?group=gld&go=Use+This+Group ←
14:02:26 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P45 is me
Phil Archer: zakim, ??P45 is me ←
14:02:28 <martinAlvarez> zakim, ??P45 is me
Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??P45 is me ←
14:02:31 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA2; got it ←
14:02:33 <Zakim> I already had ??P45 as PhilA2, martinAlvarez
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P45 as PhilA2, martinAlvarez ←
14:02:33 <martinAlvarez> :-)
Martín Álvarez: :-) ←
14:02:45 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P45 is martinAlvarez
Phil Archer: zakim, ??P45 is martinAlvarez ←
14:02:46 <Zakim> I already had ??P45 as PhilA2, PhilA2
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P45 as PhilA2, PhilA2 ←
14:02:47 <olyerickson> I thought I did tooo
John Erickson: I thought I did tooo ←
14:03:06 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a] ←
14:03:27 <olyerickson> zakim, I am ??P14
John Erickson: zakim, I am ??P14 ←
14:03:30 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it ←
14:03:34 <TinaGheen> George: minutes are uploaded
George Thomas: minutes are uploaded ←
14:03:40 <Zakim> +??P43
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P43 ←
14:03:50 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P43 is me
Phil Archer: zakim, ??P43 is me ←
14:03:50 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA2; got it ←
14:03:54 <olyerickson> zakim, ??P14 is olyerickson
John Erickson: zakim, ??P14 is olyerickson ←
14:03:54 <Zakim> I already had ??P14 as olyerickson.a, olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P14 as olyerickson.a, olyerickson ←
14:04:08 <PhilA2> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
14:04:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see George, TinaGheen, Gerald_, olyerickson.a, bhyland, olyerickson, [IPcaller], boris, +1.202.566.aacc, Cory, PhilA2, PhilA2.a
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George, TinaGheen, Gerald_, olyerickson.a, bhyland, olyerickson, [IPcaller], boris, +1.202.566.aacc, Cory, PhilA2, PhilA2.a ←
14:04:09 <TinaGheen> PROPOSAL: Accept minutes of last meeting
PROPOSAL: Accept minutes of last meeting ←
14:04:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see luisBermudez, Biplav, Mike, boris, PhilA2, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, bhyland, cgueret_work, RRSAgent, Zakim, martinAlvarez, Gerald_, George, TinaGheen, MacTed,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see luisBermudez, Biplav, Mike, boris, PhilA2, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, bhyland, cgueret_work, RRSAgent, Zakim, martinAlvarez, Gerald_, George, TinaGheen, MacTed, ←
14:04:14 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
14:04:15 <Zakim> ... cygri, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... cygri, trackbot, sandro ←
14:04:18 <cgueret_work> +1
Christophe Gueret: +1 ←
14:04:22 <boris> +1
14:04:23 <olyerickson> +1 to minutes
John Erickson: +1 to minutes ←
14:04:31 <TinaGheen> RESOLUTION: Minutes of last meeting accepted
RESOLVED: Minutes of last meeting accepted ←
14:04:33 <martinAlvarez> +1
Martín Álvarez: +1 ←
14:04:34 <Zakim> + +1.267.481.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.267.481.aadd ←
14:04:36 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
14:05:02 <TinaGheen> Topic: New Members this week?
14:05:04 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:05:13 <bhyland> zakim, who is speaking
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is speaking ←
14:05:13 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is speaking', bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is speaking', bhyland ←
14:05:13 <olyerickson> Thx @bhyland for solving the minutes problem!
John Erickson: Thx @bhyland for solving the minutes problem! ←
14:05:24 <bhyland> zakim, who is speaking now
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is speaking now ←
14:05:24 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is speaking now', bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is speaking now', bhyland ←
14:05:42 <PhilA2> zakim, who is making noise?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is making noise? ←
14:05:45 <TinaGheen> Topic: Vocabulary Summary
14:05:54 <Zakim> PhilA2, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: George (74%), bhyland (5%), Cory (5%), [IPcaller.a] (5%)
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA2, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: George (74%), bhyland (5%), Cory (5%), [IPcaller.a] (5%) ←
14:06:12 <TinaGheen> George: discussed how GLD can use others work for best practices (DDI folks)
George Thomas: discussed how GLD can use others work for best practices (DDI folks) ←
14:06:25 <TinaGheen> ... outlined 5 areas of standard vocab deliverables
... outlined 5 areas of standard vocab deliverables ←
14:06:34 <TinaGheen> ... any comments?
... any comments? ←
14:07:00 <TinaGheen> ... any updates on Actions?
... any updates on Actions? ←
14:07:01 <bhyland> q+
Bernadette Hyland: q+ ←
14:07:01 <cgueret_work> Action 10 can be closed
Christophe Gueret: ACTION-10 can be closed ←
14:07:01 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 10
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - 10 ←
14:07:13 <cgueret_work> don't know how to do it :)
Christophe Gueret: don't know how to do it :) ←
14:07:17 <olyerickson> RE olyerickson's Actions --- nothing to report
John Erickson: RE olyerickson's Actions --- nothing to report ←
14:07:35 <cgueret_work> q+
Christophe Gueret: q+ ←
14:07:40 <TinaGheen> bhyland: updating cookbook
Bernadette Hyland: updating cookbook ←
14:07:51 <TinaGheen> ... encourages people to start looking at it
... encourages people to start looking at it ←
14:07:56 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Linked_Data_Cookbook
Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Linked_Data_Cookbook ←
14:08:01 <Zakim> +??P60
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P60 ←
14:08:13 <TinaGheen> ... have 300 accesses
... have 300 accesses ←
14:08:14 <stasinos> zakim, ??P60 is stasinos
Stasinos Konstantopoulos: zakim, ??P60 is stasinos ←
14:08:14 <Zakim> +stasinos; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +stasinos; got it ←
14:08:23 <martinAlvarez> zakim, who is in PhilA2?
Martín Álvarez: zakim, who is in PhilA2? ←
14:08:23 <Zakim> PhilA2 has only PhilA2
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA2 has only PhilA2 ←
14:08:40 <martinAlvarez> zakim, martin is in PhilA2
Martín Álvarez: zakim, martin is in PhilA2 ←
14:08:40 <Zakim> +martin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +martin; got it ←
14:08:47 <TinaGheen> ... is a bit different in style than many W3 recommendations since it is a website with pragmatic advice
... is a bit different in style than many W3 recommendations since it is a website with pragmatic advice ←
14:09:01 <TinaGheen> ... borrowed language off mobile web best practices
... borrowed language off mobile web best practices ←
14:09:08 <bhyland> STyled after the Mobile Web App Best Practices http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Linked_Data_Cookbook
Bernadette Hyland: STyled after the Mobile Web App Best Practices http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Linked_Data_Cookbook ←
14:09:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aa]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.aa] ←
14:09:29 <rreck> zakim, IPcaller.aa is me
Ronald Reck: zakim, IPcaller.aa is me ←
14:09:29 <Zakim> +rreck; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +rreck; got it ←
14:09:34 <PhilA2> Mobile Web BP is at http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/ for reference
Phil Archer: Mobile Web BP is at http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/ for reference ←
14:09:34 <rreck> zakim, mute me
Ronald Reck: zakim, mute me ←
14:09:34 <Zakim> rreck should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should now be muted ←
14:09:40 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:09:40 <TinaGheen> ... please review and comment on it
... please review and comment on it ←
14:09:55 <PhilA2> ack by
Phil Archer: ack by ←
14:10:02 <PhilA2> ack bhyl
Phil Archer: ack bhyl ←
14:10:26 <PhilA2> ack cg
Phil Archer: ack cg ←
14:10:36 <TinaGheen> close action-10
14:10:37 <trackbot> ACTION-10 Talk with Paul about provenance closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-10 Talk with Paul about provenance closed ←
14:11:12 <olyerickson> @bhyland: one way to add comments in wikis is to add in alternate colors (e.g. RED etc)
John Erickson: @bhyland: one way to add comments in wikis is to add in alternate colors (e.g. RED etc) ←
14:11:32 <TinaGheen> Topic: Vocabulary discussion with Phil Archer from W3 eGov on SEMIC.EU
14:11:47 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: hello everyone
Phil Archer: hello everyone ←
14:12:01 <TinaGheen> ... been around W3C for many years
... been around W3C for many years ←
14:12:05 <olyerickson> @bhyland: for extended comments, adding text in e.g. a box is useful
John Erickson: @bhyland: for extended comments, adding text in e.g. a box is useful ←
14:12:10 <TinaGheen> ... work on eGov currently
... work on eGov currently ←
14:12:19 <TinaGheen> ... and European Commission
... and European Commission ←
14:12:37 <TinaGheen> ... speak to this group as a whole today
... speak to this group as a whole today ←
14:12:48 <TinaGheen> ... WG member in the future
... WG member in the future ←
14:12:51 <PhilA2> http://www.semic.eu/semic/
Phil Archer: http://www.semic.eu/semic/ ←
14:13:26 <TinaGheen> ... Bacilio at DERI has taken over SEMIC
... Vasilios Peristeras at DERI has taken over SEMIC ←
14:13:35 <TinaGheen> ... work on core vocabs
... work on core vocabs ←
14:13:42 <stasinos> Vasilios Peristeras
Stasinos Konstantopoulos: Vasilios Peristeras ←
14:14:22 <stasinos> you're welcome
Stasinos Konstantopoulos: you're welcome ←
14:14:28 <PhilA2> http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/snav/network/Communities/ADMS.xhtml
Phil Archer: http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/snav/network/Communities/ADMS.xhtml ←
14:14:29 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: practical point is I can help out with vocab develop with GLD
Phil Archer: practical point is I can help out with vocab develop with GLD ←
14:14:39 <martinAlvarez> s/Bacilio/Vasilios Peristeras
14:14:45 <George> Phil to work with GLD and liaise with SEMIC ! Great!
George Thomas: Phil to work with GLD and liaise with SEMIC ! Great! ←
14:14:50 <TinaGheen> ... ADMS Effort Description metadata schema
... ADMS Effort Description metadata schema ←
14:14:56 <bhyland> zakim, who is making noise?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is making noise? ←
14:15:06 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 16 (32%), bhyland (4%), [IPcaller.a] (20%)
Zakim IRC Bot: bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 16 (32%), bhyland (4%), [IPcaller.a] (20%) ←
14:15:06 <TinaGheen> ... all part of the same project
... all part of the same project ←
14:15:29 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:15:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see George, TinaGheen, Gerald_, olyerickson.a, bhyland, olyerickson, [IPcaller], boris, +1.202.566.aacc, Cory, PhilA2, PhilA2.a, +1.267.481.aadd, [IPcaller.a],
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see George, TinaGheen, Gerald_, olyerickson.a, bhyland, olyerickson, [IPcaller], boris, +1.202.566.aacc, Cory, PhilA2, PhilA2.a, +1.267.481.aadd, [IPcaller.a], ←
14:15:33 <Zakim> ... stasinos, rreck (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: ... stasinos, rreck (muted) ←
14:15:33 <Zakim> PhilA2 has martin
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA2 has martin ←
14:15:36 <TinaGheen> ... my task is to write a doc that explains how to find vocab, set up working group
... my task is to write a doc that explains how to find vocab, set up working group ←
14:16:02 <TinaGheen> ... difference from GLD is in the final stage
... difference from GLD is in the final stage ←
14:16:25 <TinaGheen> ... in European context, reps of european union will be endorsing
... in European context, reps of european union will be endorsing ←
14:16:43 <TinaGheen> ... member states of European Union will endorse the core vocab
... member states of European Union will endorse the core vocab ←
14:16:59 <TinaGheen> ... data will be exchanged between states, these are the terms you should use
... data will be exchanged between states, these are the terms you should use ←
14:17:06 <TinaGheen> ... does not mean they are defining new terms
... does not mean they are defining new terms ←
14:17:10 <Gerald_> Mute is 41# correct?
Gerald Steeman: Mute is 41# correct? ←
14:17:22 <PhilA2> http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/snav/Conformance.xhtml
Phil Archer: http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/snav/Conformance.xhtml ←
14:17:26 <TinaGheen> ... must work on defining core person vocab
... must work on defining core person vocab ←
14:17:42 <TinaGheen> .... timeline - must be done by Jan
.... timeline - must be done by Jan ←
14:18:07 <TinaGheen> ... so help is available to GLD in this respect
... so help is available to GLD in this respect ←
14:18:30 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: also have 2 other vocabs to work on
Phil Archer: also have 2 other vocabs to work on ←
14:18:46 <TinaGheen> ... his WG must decide which two they will work on
... his WG must decide which two they will work on ←
14:19:03 <TinaGheen> ... businesses? relationships b/w people? defining a piece of land?
... businesses? relationships b/w people? defining a piece of land? ←
14:19:35 <TinaGheen> ... immediate problem is identifying WG members w/o knowing which vocabs will be developed
... immediate problem is identifying WG members w/o knowing which vocabs will be developed ←
14:19:51 <TinaGheen> ... EC is paying them to develop 3 vocabs
... EC is paying them to develop 3 vocabs ←
14:20:07 <TinaGheen> ... one will describe people, 2 more are unidentified areas at this time
... one will describe people, 2 more are unidentified areas at this time ←
14:20:22 <TinaGheen> ... hope to work with GLD, two way street
... hope to work with GLD, two way street ←
14:20:59 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:21:02 <cgueret_work> +q
Christophe Gueret: +q ←
14:21:29 <olyerickson> Q: Given that much of the LD vocab prior art concerns describing people, wondering what the work of this new group will contribute?
Scribe problem: the name 'Q' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Elena Montiel Ponsoda Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Zachary Whitley Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Q: Given that much of the LD vocab prior art concerns describing people, wondering what the work of this new group will contribute? [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ] ←
14:21:37 <TinaGheen> cgueret_work: you will redefine or reuse vocabularies?
Christophe Gueret: you will redefine or reuse vocabularies? ←
14:21:42 <George> ack cgueret_work
George Thomas: ack cgueret_work ←
14:21:43 <stasinos> q+
Stasinos Konstantopoulos: q+ ←
14:21:46 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: not redefining
Phil Archer: not redefining ←
14:21:49 <TinaGheen> ... reusing
... reusing ←
14:21:55 <olyerickson> +1 to not re-inventing FOAF
John Erickson: +1 to not re-inventing FOAF ←
14:22:04 <cgueret_work> +1 too :)
Christophe Gueret: +1 too :) ←
14:22:28 <TinaGheen> ?: do you have cadidates for vocabularies you will be using
?: do you have cadidates for vocabularies you will be using ←
14:23:05 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: accounts and payments, buildings, energy usage, health care inst, educational inst, contracts, procurement, transport infrastructure, vehicles
Phil Archer: accounts and payments, buildings, energy usage, health care inst, educational inst, contracts, procurement, transport infrastructure, vehicles ←
14:23:41 <bhyland> q+
Bernadette Hyland: q+ ←
14:23:49 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: hopes EC will say use ontologies everyone else has done
Phil Archer: hopes EC will say use ontologies everyone else has done ←
14:23:57 <George> ack stasinos
George Thomas: ack stasinos ←
14:24:02 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: lots of good work already there
Phil Archer: lots of good work already there ←
14:24:10 <TinaGheen> ... does not need to be reinvented
... does not need to be reinvented ←
14:24:27 <TinaGheen> bhyland: what is the timing on outcomes and deliverables
Bernadette Hyland: what is the timing on outcomes and deliverables ←
14:24:27 <Zakim> +[IBM]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBM] ←
14:24:27 <George> ack bhyland
George Thomas: ack bhyland ←
14:24:55 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: list of possible candidates to do? in an advanced draft stage. Sign off by commission possibly next week
Phil Archer: list of possible candidates to do? in an advanced draft stage. Sign off by commission possibly next week ←
14:25:27 <TinaGheen> bhyland: how do we set up a members only list?
Bernadette Hyland: how do we set up a members only list? ←
14:25:48 <PhilA2> action PhilA2 to request member-only list
Phil Archer: action PhilA2 to request member-only list ←
14:25:48 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - PhilA2
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - PhilA2 ←
14:26:05 <PhilA2> action Phil Archer to request member-only list
Phil Archer: action Phil Archer to request member-only list ←
14:26:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-12 - Archer to request member-only list [on Phil Archer - due 2011-10-20].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-12 - Archer to request member-only list [on Phil Archer - due 2011-10-20]. ←
14:26:30 <bhyland> @PhilA2, will the list of vocab candidates be something we could fold into this? see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Linked_Data_Cookbook#Re-use_Vocabularies_Whenever_Possible
Bernadette Hyland: @PhilA2, will the list of vocab candidates be something we could fold into this? see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Linked_Data_Cookbook#Re-use_Vocabularies_Whenever_Possible ←
14:27:04 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: cautions against using member list too often
Phil Archer: cautions against using member list too often ←
14:27:16 <TinaGheen> ... keep things public as much as possible
... keep things public as much as possible ←
14:27:47 <George> @PhilA2 - and those under consideration for GLD Deliverable 2.3
George Thomas: @PhilA2 - and those under consideration for GLD Deliverable 2.3 ←
14:27:50 <TinaGheen> bhyland: want to keep as many people involved as possible, more vibrant dialogue
Bernadette Hyland: want to keep as many people involved as possible, more vibrant dialogue ←
14:28:52 <olyerickson> +1 to opening up W3G LGD WG discussions; we need more discussions on the list!
John Erickson: +1 to opening up W3G LGD WG discussions; we need more discussions on the list! ←
14:28:58 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: terms are context neutral, cross domain
Phil Archer: terms are context neutral, cross domain ←
14:29:21 <TinaGheen> ... do not want to do into great detail for every aspect of gov
... do not want to do into great detail for every aspect of gov ←
14:29:26 <George> 'core' vocab terms
George Thomas: 'core' vocab terms ←
14:29:32 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:30:08 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: I need to set up a WG soon. Who would you invite?
Phil Archer: I need to set up a WG soon. Who would you invite? ←
14:30:26 <TinaGheen> ... would like to complement GLD, not duplicate
... would like to complement GLD, not duplicate ←
14:30:46 <TinaGheen> ... first decision will be which core vocabs will they work on
... first decision will be which core vocabs will they work on ←
14:30:54 <TinaGheen> ... invitations will be coming
... invitations will be coming ←
14:31:05 <George> q+
George Thomas: q+ ←
14:31:05 <TinaGheen> ... want to make sure the invitations go to the right people
... want to make sure the invitations go to the right people ←
14:31:31 <PhilA2> ack ge
Phil Archer: ack ge ←
14:31:34 <TinaGheen> George: please elaborate on relationship b/w SEMIC and W3C
George Thomas: please elaborate on relationship b/w SEMIC and W3C ←
14:31:49 <cgueret_work> +q
Christophe Gueret: +q ←
14:31:55 <olyerickson> Hmmmmm
John Erickson: Hmmmmm ←
14:32:10 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:32:34 <PhilA2> ack cg
Phil Archer: ack cg ←
14:32:44 <TinaGheen> cgueret_work: do you have plans to collaborate with schema.org
Christophe Gueret: do you have plans to collaborate with schema.org ←
14:33:09 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: don't have definite plans but are aware effect schema.org is having
Phil Archer: don't have definite plans but are aware effect schema.org is having ←
14:34:04 <TinaGheen> cgueret_work: can be potential members of your WG
Christophe Gueret: can be potential members of your WG ←
14:34:35 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:34:57 <Zakim> -[IBM]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IBM] ←
14:35:16 <cgueret_work> @olyerickson yep, close enough :)
Christophe Gueret: @olyerickson yep, close enough :) ←
14:35:36 <olyerickson> ;)
John Erickson: ;) ←
14:36:13 <Gerald_> nicks I believe
Gerald Steeman: nicks I believe ←
14:37:15 <TinaGheen> George: is there some sort of mandate for using terms or is it recommendations?
George Thomas: is there some sort of mandate for using terms or is it recommendations? ←
14:37:38 <bhyland> q+
Bernadette Hyland: q+ ←
14:37:46 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: not legally binding, but this is the way you are meant to do it
Phil Archer: not legally binding, but this is the way you are meant to do it ←
14:38:12 <TinaGheen> George: budgets will not be tied to compliance?
George Thomas: budgets will not be tied to compliance? ←
14:38:28 <olyerickson> @PhilA2, looking forward to meeting you at TPAC
John Erickson: @PhilA2, looking forward to meeting you at TPAC ←
14:38:29 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: no
Phil Archer: no ←
14:38:49 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: orgs will get more value from using the terms - that is the benefit
Phil Archer: orgs will get more value from using the terms - that is the benefit ←
14:39:19 <olyerickson> "Voluntary Consensus Standards..."
John Erickson: "Voluntary Consensus Standards..." ←
14:39:25 <George> q?
George Thomas: q? ←
14:39:28 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: voluntary consensus is correct
Phil Archer: voluntary consensus is correct ←
14:39:30 <George> ack bhyland
George Thomas: ack bhyland ←
14:40:05 <TinaGheen> bhyland: let's talk about how this became so important in EU
Bernadette Hyland: let's talk about how this became so important in EU ←
14:40:44 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: Political transparency was important
Phil Archer: Political transparency was important ←
14:41:00 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: in Britain
Phil Archer: in Britain ←
14:41:56 <cgueret_work> +1 for pub questions :)
Christophe Gueret: +1 for pub questions :) ←
14:42:20 <George> +1 pub questions - and forgotten answers :)
George Thomas: +1 pub questions - and forgotten answers :) ←
14:42:30 <TinaGheen> bhyland: real projects going on in US, but budgeting for egov initiatives is a problem
Bernadette Hyland: real projects going on in US, but budgeting for egov initiatives is a problem ←
14:43:19 <TinaGheen> PhilA2: City of Manchester has seen real financial savings because data is published and they know where to find it
Phil Archer: City of Manchester has seen real financial savings because data is published and they know where to find it ←
14:43:39 <olyerickson> q+
John Erickson: q+ ←
14:43:39 <cgueret_work> +q
Christophe Gueret: +q ←
14:45:01 <olyerickson> Zakim, that was me talkin'
John Erickson: Zakim, that was me talkin' ←
14:45:01 <Zakim> I don't understand 'that was me talkin'', olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'that was me talkin'', olyerickson ←
14:45:15 <PhilA2> ack ol
Phil Archer: ack ol ←
14:45:15 <TinaGheen> olyerickson: evangelists on outside must meet with those inside to make decisions happen
John Erickson: evangelists on outside must meet with those inside to make decisions happen ←
14:45:22 <George> ack olyerickson.a
George Thomas: ack olyerickson.a ←
14:45:28 <cgueret_work> http://research.yahoo.com/Peter_Mika
Christophe Gueret: http://research.yahoo.com/Peter_Mika ←
14:45:32 <bhyland> Peter Mika
Bernadette Hyland: Peter Mika ←
14:45:32 <George> ack cgueret_work
George Thomas: ack cgueret_work ←
14:45:58 <TinaGheen> George; Thank you, Phil
George; Thank you, Phil ←
14:46:14 <olyerickson> -1 to comments
John Erickson: -1 to comments ←
14:46:35 <bhyland> @PhilA2, thanks, very interesting & highly relevant. I hope this can be a fruitful liaison between EU and other countries.
Bernadette Hyland: @PhilA2, thanks, very interesting & highly relevant. I hope this can be a fruitful liaison between EU and other countries. ←
14:47:06 <TinaGheen> Topic: Facebook Open Graph Schemas
14:47:48 <TinaGheen> George: does anyone have any thoughts on list message from Jesse Weaver @ RPI
George Thomas: does anyone have any thoughts on list message from Jesse Weaver @ RPI ←
14:47:49 <bhyland> agenda+ Community Directory entries due by 17-Oct please!
Bernadette Hyland: agenda+ Community Directory entries due by 17-Oct please! ←
14:48:16 <TinaGheen> George: is there more interest?
George Thomas: is there more interest? ←
14:48:55 <TinaGheen> bhyland: have Sandro report on schema.org meeting in CA
Bernadette Hyland: have Sandro report on schema.org meeting in CA ←
14:49:31 <TinaGheen> Topic: Community Directory
14:49:35 <PhilA2> Just to note that Ivan Herman posted a summary of the schema.org event at http://www.w3.org/QA/2011/09/impressions_on_the_schemaorg_w.html
Phil Archer: Just to note that Ivan Herman posted a summary of the schema.org event at http://www.w3.org/QA/2011/09/impressions_on_the_schemaorg_w.html ←
14:49:52 <TinaGheen> bhyland: have gone through start up phase
Bernadette Hyland: have gone through start up phase ←
14:50:04 <TinaGheen> bhyland: Comm Dir can help all of us
Bernadette Hyland: Comm Dir can help all of us ←
14:50:26 <TinaGheen> ... can show what is in production
... can show what is in production ←
14:51:20 <PhilA2> :-)
Phil Archer: :-) ←
14:51:21 <cgueret_work> :)
Christophe Gueret: :) ←
14:51:23 <olyerickson> doh!
John Erickson: doh! ←
14:51:52 <TinaGheen> bhyland: please access directory, let me know if there are issues
Bernadette Hyland: please access directory, let me know if there are issues ←
14:52:43 <TinaGheen> ... would like to take screenshot of statistics that show worldwide distribution
... would like to take screenshot of statistics that show worldwide distribution ←
14:53:09 <TinaGheen> ... would like to show in Warsaw
... would like to show in Warsaw ←
14:53:19 <cgueret_work> deadline to put info there?
Christophe Gueret: deadline to put info there? ←
14:53:51 <TinaGheen> bhyland: all data will be available in RDF
Bernadette Hyland: all data will be available in RDF ←
14:54:17 <TinaGheen> ... please submit info by Tuesday
... please submit info by Tuesday ←
14:54:20 <PhilA2> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
14:54:35 <George> ack PhilA2
George Thomas: ack PhilA2 ←
14:54:49 <George> ack PhilA
George Thomas: ack PhilA ←
14:55:29 <TinaGheen> Topic: Announcements
14:55:40 <TinaGheen> George: any other announcements or agenda items?
George Thomas: any other announcements or agenda items? ←
14:55:49 <cgueret_work> q+
Christophe Gueret: q+ ←
14:56:10 <olyerickson> -1 to additional agenda items at this time...
John Erickson: -1 to additional agenda items at this time... ←
14:56:25 <olyerickson> +1 to great scribing
John Erickson: +1 to great scribing ←
14:56:31 <bhyland> @TinaGheen, thank you, great job scribing :-)
Bernadette Hyland: @TinaGheen, thank you, great job scribing :-) ←
14:57:00 <PhilA2> rrsagent, make logs public
Phil Archer: rrsagent, make logs public ←
14:58:07 <TinaGheen> George: meeting adjourned
George Thomas: meeting adjourned ←
14:58:24 <cgueret_work> bye bye
Christophe Gueret: bye bye ←
14:58:28 <Zakim> -Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: -Cory ←
14:58:29 <BenediktKaempgen> bye
Benedikt Kaempgen: bye ←
14:58:37 <Zakim> -PhilA2
Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA2 ←
14:58:38 <Zakim> -boris
Zakim IRC Bot: -boris ←
14:58:38 <Zakim> -bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland ←
14:58:39 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
14:58:39 <Zakim> - +1.202.566.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.566.aacc ←
14:58:41 <Zakim> -olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←
14:58:41 <Gerald_> I'll lurk to see the ending.
Gerald Steeman: I'll lurk to see the ending. ←
14:58:51 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a] ←
14:58:52 <Zakim> -stasinos
Zakim IRC Bot: -stasinos ←
14:59:18 <TinaGheen> RRSAgent, generate minutes
RRSAgent, generate minutes ←
14:59:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/13-gld-minutes.html TinaGheen
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/13-gld-minutes.html TinaGheen ←
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