Meeting Record

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, I see T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be egov". ←

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, PhilA; I see T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes ←

Phil Archer: annoyingly pedantic. I'm sure Zakimm knoew perfectly well what I meant! ←

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA ←

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, PhilA, GannonDick, +1.202.684.aabb, Jeanne, bhyland, bdhandspicker, DeirdreLee, +1.843.682.aaee, olyerickson, +1.703.281.aaff ←

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Owen, olyerickson, DeirdreLee, bdhandspicker, sandro, gwyn, DanielBennett, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, Jeanne_, GannonDick, MacTed, bhyland, cpyang, trackbot ←

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named '+1.202.684.aabb' ←

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, PhilA, GannonDick, DanielBennett, Jeanne, bhyland, bdhandspicker, DeirdreLee, Owen, olyerickson, BrandNieman ←

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Owen, olyerickson, DeirdreLee, bdhandspicker, sandro, gwyn, DanielBennett, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, Jeanne_, GannonDick, MacTed, bhyland, cpyang, trackbot ←

Zakim IRC Bot: bhyland, listening for 15 seconds I heard sound from the following: Jeanne (86%), [IPcaller] (22%) ←

Unknown bhyland: Could the IPcall please mute their line … we're hearing a lot of background noise from you ←

* using social media to create a relationship with people who care about NASA ←

* Slide 7: Using semantic technologies to find NASA experts (hmmm, way cool) ←

* But that wasn't seen as enough based on the challenge given to NASA by the president ←

* NASA wants to be flexible based on what people want/what they're interest in ←

* learned that many people don't understasnd the issues around global warming ←

* NASA wanted to inspire in ways that traditional modes of engagement wouldn't ←

* In the case of NASA, urgent to engage peopel the people are the stakeholders ←

John Erickson: I had a question... The general concept of building social networks around agencies... NASA is unique, lots of people care about it [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

John Erickson: but there are other parts of the US gov who are exploring other methods of reaching its followers [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

John Erickson: For example, people are concerned about social services etc. i.e. there are others [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

* concept: not trying to do everything, but focus with the group(s) you want to reach out to and be where they are ←

Jeanne Holm: Most interesting thing: what objectives various different govts had in using social media ←

* Presenters didn't intend their methods to be considered "best practices" but rather simple examples of methods ←

Jeanne Holm: Should add in the The interaction between government and the tool providers. Terms of service. ←

Daniel Bennett: Legal identifiers, identity issues, licensing should all have a section addressed to it [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

Daniel Bennett: What is the best way that protects citizens and government's role in use of social media. [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

Daniel Bennett: The point is, there are lots of issues; they need to be laid out ←

Daniel Bennett: Accessibility issues, use, copyrights, privacy of citizen information all needs to be understood before "just standing up" a social media capability. [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

* a whole gamet that protects citizens, ensures govt abides by its laws, etc ←

John Erickson: On a slightly different point... we're doing some work with NIST on first responders/leveraging social networks [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

John Erickson: We are doing work on social networks and first responders [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

John Erickson: the question comes up around when you create a community cf. when you leverage an existing one [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

John Erickson: NASA has its own platform but you're also using other people's [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

Jeanne Holm: Thanks Owen! You may want to wait until I get one more draft out ←

John Erickson: You said you have multiple FB pages to meet different interests [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

John Erickson: You need to go to where people are... that multi-modal approach is more of a methodology [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

Jeanne Holm: Only 40% of the US population has meaningful access to the internet [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

Jeanne Holm: So social media isn't everything. Still need traditional methods - town hall meetings, snail mail etc [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

* trad. media provides important way to extend the conversation from social media ←

Unknown re: government rules meet social media [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←

Daniel Bennett: is there a subcommittee that is overseeing the editing of the social media "note"? ←

15:56:06 <olyerickson> Scribe's note: We're still talking about the eGov Social Media "Summary Document"

Scribe's note: We're still talking about the eGov Social Media "Summary Document" ←

15:57:00 <olyerickson> Jeanne_: Will add e.g. issues suggested by DanielBennett

Jeanne Holm: Will add e.g. issues suggested by DanielBennett ←

15:57:32 <olyerickson> Jeanne_: We've had O(dozen) presentations over last 3 mos

Jeanne Holm: We've had O(dozen) presentations over last 3 mos ←

15:57:44 <olyerickson> * a huge amount of material

* a huge amount of material ←

15:57:50 <olyerickson> * but only a small sampling

* but only a small sampling ←

15:58:08 <olyerickson> Next steps:

Next steps: ←

15:58:13 <olyerickson> * Community Directory

* Community Directory ←

15:58:24 <olyerickson> * Stakeholder engagement

* Stakeholder engagement ←

15:59:14 <olyerickson> * Feedback Loops

* Feedback Loops ←

15:59:47 <olyerickson> * <insert Page 3 "Key Findings" bullets here>

* <insert Page 3 "Key Findings" bullets here> ←

16:01:22 <olyerickson> Jeanne_: Those are *her* key findings, what did others hear?

Jeanne Holm: Those are *her* key findings, what did others hear? ←

16:01:52 <olyerickson> * PhilA: Thanks Jeanne_ a lot of hard work to go through and summarize

* PhilA: Thanks Jeanne_ a lot of hard work to go through and summarize ←

16:02:08 <olyerickson> * hearing the different perspectives e.g. Oman has been eye-opening

* hearing the different perspectives e.g. Oman has been eye-opening ←

16:02:23 <olyerickson> * Can eGov group take this on and "knock it into shapre"

* Can eGov group take this on and "knock it into shapre" ←

16:02:37 <olyerickson> * big but interesting task for group to take it on

* big but interesting task for group to take it on ←

16:03:00 <DanielBennett> We should have a committee that meets in addition to this main meeting to build this document

Daniel Bennett: We should have a committee that meets in addition to this main meeting to build this document ←

16:03:10 <olyerickson> Jeanne_: When we re-formed group, we heard "something" should be produced

Jeanne Holm: When we re-formed group, we heard "something" should be produced ←

16:03:30 <olyerickson> * it is an IG not a WG, there are limits

* it is an IG not a WG, there are limits ←

16:03:39 <DanielBennett> I helped do this with the past group note

Daniel Bennett: I helped do this with the past group note ←

16:03:50 <olyerickson> * but this document and a COmmunity Directory are two things that CAN be done

* but this document and a COmmunity Directory are two things that CAN be done ←

16:04:03 <olyerickson> +1 to what we were hoping for

+1 to what we were hoping for ←

16:04:14 <olyerickson> +1 to helping in a large or small way ;)

+1 to helping in a large or small way ;) ←

16:04:19 <Owen> Jeanne's draft objectives are now available in StratMLformat at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/OSMG.xml

Scribe problem: the name 'Owen' does not match any of the 98 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Gwyneth Sutherlin Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Owen: Jeanne's draft objectives are now available in StratMLformat at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/OSMG.xml ←

16:04:32 <Jeanne_> Thanks Owen

Jeanne Holm: Thanks Owen ←

16:05:04 <olyerickson> Q: Can this doc be W3C wikified in a W3C acceptable way?

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Unknown Q: Can this doc be W3C wikified in a W3C acceptable way? ←

16:05:13 <Jeanne_> DanielBennett: Created a document before with lead people for each section, and separate meetings that helped to work the editorial process

Daniel Bennett: Created a document before with lead people for each section, and separate meetings that helped to work the editorial process [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:06:04 <olyerickson> Not sure what the work product DanielBennett is referring to might be

Not sure what the work product DanielBennett is referring to might be ←

16:06:10 <Owen> I have tried to engage wiki vendors in incorporating the StratML standard into their services ... thus far without discernable results

Unknown Owen: I have tried to engage wiki vendors in incorporating the StratML standard into their services ... thus far without discernable results ←

16:06:12 <olyerickson> * specifics I mean

* specifics I mean ←

16:06:45 <olyerickson> Q: What is "the format" A "Group Note?"

Unknown Q: What is "the format" A "Group Note?" ←

16:07:08 <olyerickson> s/decide/understand/

s/decide/understand/ (warning: replacement failed) ←

16:07:33 <olyerickson> DanielBennett: Time constraints need to not be "loosey-goosey"

Daniel Bennett: Time constraints need to not be "loosey-goosey" ←

16:07:50 <olyerickson> +1 to helping (assuming I understand what I'm helping on)

+1 to helping (assuming I understand what I'm helping on) ←

16:08:09 <GannonDick> Owen, maybe I could help with a Strat

Gannon Dick: Owen, maybe I could help with a Strat ←

16:08:20 <GannonDick> ml to

Gannon Dick: ml to ←

16:08:39 <GannonDick> oo which exports

Gannon Dick: oo which exports ←

16:08:42 <DeirdreLee> +1 for information and data sharing section

Deirdre Lee: +1 for information and data sharing section ←

16:08:48 <GannonDick> media wiki

Gannon Dick: media wiki ←

16:09:23 <olyerickson> Q: Will this be W3C hosted []yes []no

Unknown Q: Will this be W3C hosted []yes []no ←

16:09:39 <PhilA> Let me or Sandro know if and when you want to book a slot on the Zakim bridge

Phil Archer: Let me or Sandro know if and when you want to book a slot on the Zakim bridge ←

16:09:44 <olyerickson> Q: Will this be in wiki format []yes []no

Unknown Q: Will this be in wiki format []yes []no ←

16:09:52 <GannonDick> q+

Gannon Dick: q+ ←

16:09:52 <PhilA> Yes, olyerickson, it will be W3C hosted

Phil Archer: Yes, olyerickson, it will be W3C hosted ←

16:10:06 <olyerickson> Q: Will this be public from the start []yes []no

Unknown Q: Will this be public from the start []yes []no ←

16:10:16 <Jeanne_> It is public right now.

Jeanne Holm: It is public right now. ←

16:10:22 <Owen> I will contribute in any way that I can, both in format and substance

Unknown Owen: I will contribute in any way that I can, both in format and substance ←

16:10:24 <olyerickson> DeirdreLee: Will contribute information & data sharing

Deirdre Lee: Will contribute information & data sharing ←

16:10:31 <PhilA> ack GannonDick

Phil Archer: ack GannonDick ←

16:10:39 <Jeanne_> I would think we should keep it transparent, although as it moves through some iterations it make be in discussion.

Jeanne Holm: I would think we should keep it transparent, although as it moves through some iterations it make be in discussion. ←

16:10:54 <olyerickson> GannonDick: Can do StratML magic to it

Gannon Dick: Can do StratML magic to it ←

16:11:01 <Owen> Gannon, you are already referenced at http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm#Part3

Unknown Owen: Gannon, you are already referenced at http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm#Part3 ←

16:11:32 <Owen> Will look forward to seeing StratML wikified

Unknown Owen: Will look forward to seeing StratML wikified ←

16:12:11 <PhilA> q+

Phil Archer: q+ ←

16:12:27 <PhilA> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me ←

16:12:29 <Jeanne_> ack PhilA

Jeanne Holm: ack PhilA ←

16:12:30 <DanielBennett> http://www.w3.org/TR/gov-data/

Daniel Bennett: http://www.w3.org/TR/gov-data/ ←

16:13:00 <olyerickson> PhilA: Encourages us to not be scared

Phil Archer: Encourages us to not be scared ←

16:13:18 <olyerickson> Q: Does W3C process even apply (if this is not a Recommendation(tm) )

Unknown Q: Does W3C process even apply (if this is not a Recommendation(tm) ) ←

16:13:46 <olyerickson> sandro: Every contributor MUST be a member of the group and follows IP policies

Sandro Hawke: Every contributor MUST be a member of the group and follows IP policies ←

16:14:12 <olyerickson> Jeanne_: Initiate group member list etc yada yada

Jeanne Holm: Initiate group member list etc yada yada ←

16:14:25 <olyerickson> DanielBennett: The wiki platform does a great job

Daniel Bennett: The wiki platform does a great job ←

16:14:48 <Jeanne_> yada yada = make sure people have agreed to W3C intellectual guidelines and policies

Jeanne Holm: yada yada = make sure people have agreed to W3C intellectual guidelines and policies ←

16:15:01 <olyerickson> * even "pencil and paper" (definition? ;) )

* even "pencil and paper" (definition? ;) ) ←

16:15:20 <olyerickson> PhilA: If tehre is something you need/want control over, DON'T contribute it...

Phil Archer: If tehre is something you need/want control over, DON'T contribute it... ←

16:15:41 <olyerickson> DanielBennett: If you contribute, your name will be listed (but not good for tenure... )

Daniel Bennett: If you contribute, your name will be listed (but not good for tenure... ) ←

16:15:50 <olyerickson> Jeanne_:  (garbled)

Jeanne Holm: (garbled) ←

16:16:14 <olyerickson> Topic: Wrapup

7. Wrapup

16:16:21 <DanielBennett> yw

Daniel Bennett: yw ←

16:16:22 <olyerickson> Thanks all around

Thanks all around ←

16:16:47 <olyerickson> Special thanks to DanielBennett ( Jeanne_ owes him a pint)

Special thanks to DanielBennett ( Jeanne_ owes him a pint) ←

16:17:01 <DanielBennett> excellent, thanks

Daniel Bennett: excellent, thanks ←

16:17:26 <olyerickson> Topic: Future Topics

8. Future Topics

16:18:05 <olyerickson> Trying to find someone with knowledge on interaction, policies, etc

Trying to find someone with knowledge on interaction, policies, etc ←

16:18:31 <bhyland> Topic: Community Directory

9. Community Directory

16:18:36 <PhilA> scribe: PhilA

(Scribe set to Phil Archer)

16:18:54 <bhyland> Please keep in mind that the GLD WG has a deliverable that is a community directory, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary

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Unknown bhyland: Please keep in mind that the GLD WG has a deliverable that is a community directory, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary ←

16:18:55 <Zakim> -olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←

16:19:20 <Brand> Re I have tried to engage wiki vendors in incorporating the StratML standard into their services - I think we have gone beyond StratML with MindTouch TCS: http://www.mindtouch.com/solutions/knowledge_base

Brand Niemann: Re I have tried to engage wiki vendors in incorporating the StratML standard into their services - I think we have gone beyond StratML with MindTouch TCS: http://www.mindtouch.com/solutions/knowledge_base ←

16:19:29 <PhilA> Jeanne_: I want to go haed and make the building of the directory as an asynchronous activity

Jeanne Holm: I want to go haed and make the building of the directory as an asynchronous activity ←

16:19:47 <PhilA> ... want to write a wiki page to set out what we should try and capture

... want to write a wiki page to set out what we should try and capture ←

16:20:06 <bhyland> A working directory that will improve with iteration & input from the eGov IG is here, http://dir.w3.org

Unknown bhyland: A working directory that will improve with iteration & input from the eGov IG is here, http://dir.w3.org ←

16:20:13 <PhilA> ... doesn't need to be a verbal discussion, just need to get on with it

... doesn't need to be a verbal discussion, just need to get on with it ←

16:20:30 <PhilA> bdhandspicker: Doing is better than talking about it

Brian Handspicker: Doing is better than talking about it ←

16:21:13 <bhyland> We're open to making it an Open Data directory ...

Unknown bhyland: We're open to making it an Open Data directory ... ←

16:21:42 <bdhandspicker> Clarification - precise quote from me: "Sometimes doing is better than talking something to death."

Brian Handspicker: Clarification - precise quote from me: "Sometimes doing is better than talking something to death." ←

16:21:44 <PhilA>

Crossover directory ←

16:21:45 <bhyland> ++1 to what PhilA is saying, it gardener is required to maintain a garden

Unknown bhyland: ++1 to what PhilA is saying, it gardener is required to maintain a garden ←

16:22:10 <bhyland> q+

Unknown bhyland: q+ ←

16:23:16 <PhilA> ack bhyland

ack bhyland ←

16:23:34 <PhilA> Jeanne_: Sounds good...

Jeanne Holm: Sounds good... ←

16:24:03 <PhilA> bhyland: +1 to PhilA - it's hard to get this going. We have a directory built on W3C standards top to bottom. What we need is the input

Unknown bhyland: +1 to PhilA - it's hard to get this going. We have a directory built on W3C standards top to bottom. What we need is the input ←

16:24:29 <PhilA> bhyland: We need more data and maybe a better UI but we should combine our efforts and not diltue them

Unknown bhyland: We need more data and maybe a better UI but we should combine our efforts and not dilute them ←

16:24:47 <PhilA> s/diltue/dilute/

16:24:47 <Brand> We are working on a directory of government "big data" sets and projects for Congress and the Federal Government: http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Emerging_Technology_SIG_October_18_Meeting_Big_Data_Committee_Overview

Brand Niemann: We are working on a directory of government "big data" sets and projects for Congress and the Federal Government: http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Emerging_Technology_SIG_October_18_Meeting_Big_Data_Committee_Overview ←

16:25:36 <PhilA> bhyland: WE should be promoting things like the UK's ODI etc. through the directory

Unknown bhyland: We should be promoting things like the UK's ODI etc. through the directory ←

16:25:47 <PhilA> s/WE/We/

16:26:17 <bdhandspicker> q+

Brian Handspicker: q+ ←

16:26:19 <PhilA> bhyland: I would be disappointed if there were multiple directories - we should have one good one.

Unknown bhyland: I would be disappointed if there were multiple directories - we should have one good one. ←

16:26:28 <PhilA> Jeanne_: And yes, in this case, more is not better

Jeanne Holm: And yes, in this case, more is not better ←

16:26:51 <PhilA> Jeanne_: I think it would be appropriate to include the topcs we're looking at. I'll look at the directory

Jeanne Holm: I think it would be appropriate to include the topcs we're looking at. I'll look at the directory ←

16:26:51 <bhyland> Caveat: Working code that has a few committed "gardeners" is critical to a community site.

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Unknown Caveat: Working code that has a few committed "gardeners" is critical to a community site. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown bhyland ] ←

16:27:00 <Owen> If the directory complies with applicable standards for interoperability, does it matter whether there is one or many?

Unknown Owen: If the directory complies with applicable standards for interoperability, does it matter whether there is one or many? ←

16:27:16 <Jeanne_> ack bdhandspicker

Jeanne Holm: ack bdhandspicker ←

16:27:18 <PhilA> ack bdhandspicker

ack bdhandspicker ←

16:27:34 <PhilA> bdhandspicker: I was just going to remind folks that not all gov data is open data

Brian Handspicker: I was just going to remind folks that not all gov data is open data ←

16:27:53 <PhilA> bdhandspicker: But I'm sure that the directory could capture experts in data that isn't open

Brian Handspicker: But I'm sure that the directory could capture experts in data that isn't open ←

16:28:08 <Owen> I'd like to post my own data for the directory(ies) on my own site.

Unknown Owen: I'd like to post my own data for the directory(ies) on my own site. ←

16:28:26 <PhilA> bhyland: Yes - just because you might come from a company that does OD, that doesn't mean you only do OD

Unknown bhyland: Yes - just because you might come from a company that does OD, that doesn't mean you only do OD ←

16:29:10 <PhilA> PhilA: I think that's one of the functions that the Directory has - it's all built on RDF and SPARQL

Phil Archer: I think that's one of the functions that the Directory has - it's all built on RDF and SPARQL ←

16:29:17 <PhilA> ^^ for Owen

^^ for Owen ←

16:29:52 <PhilA> Jeanne: The last thing to mention is ICEGOV in Albany. Both I and Tomas will be there

Jeanne Holm: The last thing to mention is ICEGOV in Albany. Both I and Tomas will be there ←

16:29:59 <PhilA> PhilA: So will Crossover project btw

Phil Archer: So will Crossover project btw ←

16:30:29 <PhilA> Jeanne: Next project will be Open data. What I want to do is to put out a call for speakers in the next 2 months or so. Including private gov data etc.

Jeanne Holm: Next project will be Open data. What I want to do is to put out a call for speakers in the next 2 months or so. Including private gov data etc. ←

16:30:41 <PhilA> ... we'll be organising those sessions.

... we'll be organising those sessions. ←

16:31:34 <PhilA> Jeanne: I think the two time zone thing is working - we've had some good comments on that

Jeanne Holm: I think the two time zone thing is working - we've had some good comments on that ←

16:31:55 <PhilA> Jeanne: Thanks everyone for their contributions

Jeanne Holm: Thanks everyone for their contributions ←

16:31:59 <PhilA> Adjourned

Adjourned ←

16:32:01 <bdhandspicker> I'll scribe next time.... reading the 101 now....

Brian Handspicker: I'll scribe next time.... reading the 101 now.... ←

16:32:08 <bdhandspicker> bye

Brian Handspicker: bye ←

16:32:08 <DanielBennett> same here. thanks.

Daniel Bennett: same here. thanks. ←

16:32:08 <Brand> Jeanne. Thanks, I have to go to another meeting - I posted my suggestions

Brand Niemann: Jeanne. Thanks, I have to go to another meeting - I posted my suggestions ←

16:32:09 <Zakim> -bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland ←

16:32:10 <DanielBennett> bye

Daniel Bennett: bye ←

16:32:11 <Zakim> -GannonDick

Zakim IRC Bot: -GannonDick ←

16:32:12 <Zakim> -DeirdreLee

Zakim IRC Bot: -DeirdreLee ←

16:32:14 <Zakim> -Owen

Zakim IRC Bot: -Owen ←

16:32:16 <Zakim> -PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA ←

16:32:16 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←

16:32:19 <Zakim> -BrandNieman

Zakim IRC Bot: -BrandNieman ←

16:32:23 <Zakim> -DanielBennett

Zakim IRC Bot: -DanielBennett ←

16:32:25 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←

16:32:25 <PhilA> rrsagent, make logs public

rrsagent, make logs public ←

16:32:27 <Zakim> -bdhandspicker

Zakim IRC Bot: -bdhandspicker ←

16:32:33 <PhilA> rrsagent, generate minutes

rrsagent, generate minutes ←

16:32:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/19-egov-minutes.html PhilA

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/19-egov-minutes.html PhilA ←

16:32:41 <Zakim> -Jeanne

Zakim IRC Bot: -Jeanne ←

16:32:42 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM has ended ←

16:32:42 <Zakim> Attendees were Sandro, PhilA, +1.508.333.aaaa, +1.202.684.aabb, GannonDick, Jeanne, bhyland, +1.413.652.aacc, DeirdreLee, +1.843.682.aaee, +1.703.281.aaff, olyerickson,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Sandro, PhilA, +1.508.333.aaaa, +1.202.684.aabb, GannonDick, Jeanne, bhyland, +1.413.652.aacc, DeirdreLee, +1.843.682.aaee, +1.703.281.aaff, olyerickson, ←

16:32:42 <Zakim> ... bdhandspicker, DanielBennett, Owen, BrandNieman, [IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: ... bdhandspicker, DanielBennett, Owen, BrandNieman, [IPcaller] ←

16:33:01 <Jeanne_> Thanks everyone!

Jeanne Holm: Thanks everyone! ←

16:36:14 <PhilA> meeting: eGov Interest Group

16:36:27 <PhilA> rrsagent, generate minutes

rrsagent, generate minutes ←

16:36:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/19-egov-minutes.html PhilA

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/19-egov-minutes.html PhilA ←

16:59:01 <Owen> The TR referenced by Daniel is available in StratML format at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/POGDwStyle.xml

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Unknown Owen: The TR referenced by Daniel is available in StratML format at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/POGDwStyle.xml ←

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eGov Interest Group

Minutes of 19 October 2012

1. Caller ID-ing

2. Reminder of Agenda: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page

3. Social Media in Taiwan

4. Social Media at Nasa

5. Future Topics

6. [what is the topic?]

7. Wrapup

8. Future Topics

9. Community Directory