IRC log of egov on 2012-10-19

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14:56:20 [PhilA]: zakim, this is egov
14:56:21 [Zakim]: PhilA, I see T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be egov".
14:56:33 [PhilA]: zakim, this will be egov
14:56:33 [Zakim]: ok, PhilA; I see T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
14:56:44 [PhilA]: zakim, don't be so picky!
14:56:44 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'don't be so picky!', PhilA
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14:59:08 [GannonDick]: Shall we cover our ears while you explain 'picky', PhilA ?
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14:59:29 [PhilA]: annoyingly pedantic. I'm sure Zakimm knoew perfectly well what I meant!
14:59:54 [Jeanne_]: Hi all--we will be working from the wiki page at http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page to help keep the conversation organized.
14:59:55 [Zakim]: T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM has now started
15:00:02 [Zakim]: +Sandro
15:00:12 [PhilA]: zakim, code?
15:00:12 [Zakim]: the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA
15:00:24 [Zakim]: +??P1
15:00:29 [PhilA]: zakim, ??P1 is me
15:00:29 [Zakim]: +PhilA; got it
15:00:31 [Zakim]: + +1.508.333.aaaa
15:01:10 [Zakim]: + +1.202.684.aabb
15:01:12 [sandro]: zakim, aaaa is GannonDick
15:01:13 [Zakim]: +GannonDick; got it
15:01:23 [GannonDick]: zakim, aaaa is GannonDick
15:01:23 [Zakim]: sorry, GannonDick, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
15:01:29 [DanielBennett]: aabb is Daniel
15:01:34 [PhilA]: agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2012Oct/0032.html
15:01:38 [DanielBennett]: hi
15:01:53 [PhilA]: chair: Jeanne Holm
15:02:04 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller]
15:02:31 [sandro]: Zakim, IPcaller is Jeanne
15:02:31 [Zakim]: +Jeanne; got it
15:02:56 [Zakim]: +bhyland
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15:05:20 [bdhandspicker]: Zakim I am aacc
15:05:21 [Zakim]: + +3539149aadd
15:05:43 [sandro]: sandro has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page#recent
15:05:46 [DeirdreLee]: Zakim +3539149aadd is me
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15:05:59 [DeirdreLee]: Zakim, +3539149aadd is me
15:05:59 [Zakim]: +DeirdreLee; got it
15:06:19 [Zakim]: + +1.843.682.aaee
15:06:32 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller]
15:06:33 [Zakim]: + +1.703.281.aaff
15:06:45 [olyerickson]: zakim, [ipcaller] is me.
15:06:45 [Zakim]: +olyerickson; got it
15:07:03 [bdhandspicker]: Zakim, aacc is me
15:07:03 [Zakim]: +bdhandspicker; got it
15:07:07 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: is looking for a scribe
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15:08:06 [olyerickson]: scribe: olyerickson
15:08:16 [PhilA]: zakim, who is here?
15:08:16 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Sandro, PhilA, GannonDick, +1.202.684.aabb, Jeanne, bhyland, bdhandspicker, DeirdreLee, +1.843.682.aaee, olyerickson, +1.703.281.aaff
15:08:19 [Zakim]: On IRC I see Owen, olyerickson, DeirdreLee, bdhandspicker, sandro, gwyn, DanielBennett, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, Jeanne_, GannonDick, MacTed, bhyland, cpyang, trackbot
15:08:38 [olyerickson]: Topic: Caller ID-ing
15:08:42 [PhilA]: zakim, aabb is DanielBennett
15:08:42 [Zakim]: +DanielBennett; got it
15:08:43 [sandro]: zakim, aabb is DanielBennett
15:08:44 [Zakim]: sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
15:09:05 [sandro]: zakim, +1.202.684.aabb is DanielBennett
15:09:05 [Zakim]: sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named '+1.202.684.aabb'
15:09:32 [sandro]: zakim, aabb is DanielBennett
15:09:32 [Zakim]: sorry, sandro, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
15:09:49 [PhilA]: zakim, aaee is Owen
15:09:49 [Zakim]: +Owen; got it
15:10:05 [PhilA]: zakim, aaff is BrandNieman
15:10:05 [Zakim]: +BrandNieman; got it
15:10:16 [olyerickson]: Topic: Reminder of Agenda: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page
15:10:17 [PhilA]: zakim, who is here?
15:10:17 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Sandro, PhilA, GannonDick, DanielBennett, Jeanne, bhyland, bdhandspicker, DeirdreLee, Owen, olyerickson, BrandNieman
15:10:19 [Zakim]: On IRC I see Owen, olyerickson, DeirdreLee, bdhandspicker, sandro, gwyn, DanielBennett, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, Jeanne_, GannonDick, MacTed, bhyland, cpyang, trackbot
15:10:47 [olyerickson]: Topic: Social Media in Taiwan
15:11:06 [olyerickson]: Apologies from TH Schee (at hospital)
15:11:31 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: We'll postpone his preso
15:12:09 [olyerickson]: ideas for Schee to communicate?
15:12:18 [olyerickson]: PhilA: Best is schedule another time
15:12:30 [olyerickson]: * play it by ear
15:12:47 [olyerickson]: Topic: Social Media at Nasa
15:13:03 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: Link in wiki http://www.slideshare.net/jeanneholm1/knowledge-sharing-and-social-media-at-nasa
15:13:38 [PhilA]: Draft summary of the various presentations we've heard about social media use around the world, currently in a Word doc at http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/7/73/W3C_eGov_Social_Media.doc
15:13:43 [olyerickson]: Wanted to communicate the excitement about what NASA is doing
15:14:10 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller]
15:14:15 [bhyland]: zakim, who is talking?
15:14:27 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: (garbled)
15:14:30 [Zakim]: bhyland, listening for 15 seconds I heard sound from the following: Jeanne (86%), [IPcaller] (22%)
15:14:52 [bhyland]: Could the IPcall please mute their line … we're hearing a lot of background noise from you
15:14:52 [olyerickson]: * Slide 2: Generational differences in sharing
15:15:31 [PhilA]: zakim, mute IPCaller
15:15:33 [Zakim]: [IPcaller] should now be muted
15:15:36 [olyerickson]: * Slide 3: Trust & Reciprocity
15:15:52 [sandro]: bhyland, I'm afraid the noise is at Jeanne's location
15:16:02 [bhyland]: oh.
15:16:12 [PhilA]: zakim, unmute IPCaller
15:16:12 [Zakim]: [IPcaller] should no longer be muted
15:16:29 [bhyland]: better
15:17:02 [olyerickson]: * using social media to create a relationship with people who care about NASA
15:17:16 [olyerickson]: * NASA unique as an agency
15:17:31 [olyerickson]: * Slide 4: The Learning Journey
15:17:59 [olyerickson]: * Slide 5: Example from NASA portal: "the usual stuff..."
15:18:18 [olyerickson]: * Alide 6: NASA internal collaboration links
15:18:47 [olyerickson]: * Slide 7: Using semantic technologies to find NASA experts (hmmm, way cool)
15:19:22 [olyerickson]: ** using social media to both reach OUT and to reach IN
15:19:56 [olyerickson]: * But that wasn't seen as enough based on the challenge given to NASA by the president
15:20:12 [olyerickson]: * a different kind of engagement is required (paradigm shift required)
15:20:33 [olyerickson]: * Slide 8: Paradigm Shift/competive edge
15:20:52 [olyerickson]: Slide 11: Facebook utilization
15:21:12 [olyerickson]: * implementation of various surveys using FB as a platform
15:21:19 [olyerickson]: * be where they are
15:21:43 [olyerickson]: * NASA has lots of pages: a page for each mission
15:22:07 [olyerickson]: * NASA wants to be flexible based on what people want/what they're interest in
15:22:21 [olyerickson]: * Personality of page needs to reflect the people who congregate there
15:23:11 [olyerickson]: Took successes from FB to other platforms: YouTube
15:23:47 [olyerickson]: Slide 12: iTunes deployment (podcasts)
15:23:59 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: (wicked garbled)
15:24:15 [olyerickson]: Slide 14: First to tweet from space
15:24:29 [olyerickson]: * Lots of astronauts on Twitter
15:24:43 [olyerickson]: Slide 15: Second Life
15:25:02 [olyerickson]: * engagement of students, etc in various activities
15:25:51 [olyerickson]: * key opportunity is to learn what communication is working and what isn't
15:26:04 [olyerickson]: * find out what people don't understand
15:26:19 [olyerickson]: Slide 17: Center for Global Change
15:26:43 [olyerickson]: * learned that many people don't understasnd the issues around global warming
15:27:00 [Brand]: Brand has joined #egov
15:27:11 [olyerickson]: * 2nd life used to walk avatar through the problem
15:27:30 [olyerickson]: * ie use of visualization through s.m. platforms to explain
15:27:48 [olyerickson]: Slide 19: Usage of crowdsourcing
15:28:25 [olyerickson]: * utilization of game technologiu
15:28:52 [PhilA]: serious games... now there's a meme...
15:28:53 [olyerickson]: Slide 20: View into virtual view of surface of Mars
15:29:14 [olyerickson]: * allows people to explore, engage as the robot is engaging
15:29:39 [olyerickson]: * NASA wanted to inspire in ways that traditional modes of engagement wouldn't
15:29:47 [olyerickson]: Some bumps along the way
15:29:53 [olyerickson]: Very cost effective
15:29:59 [olyerickson]: Questions for Jeanne_ ?
15:30:27 [olyerickson]: PhilA: No one has the galleries et.al. of NASA
15:30:39 [olyerickson]: * could anyone else do what NASA does?
15:31:03 [olyerickson]: A: Other orgs may not have the followers, but
15:31:19 [olyerickson]: principle of going to where the people are still holds
15:31:42 [olyerickson]: * In the case of NASA, urgent to engage peopel the people are the stakeholders
15:32:41 [olyerickson]: * NASA took some chances, some risks, but worth it to improve engagement
15:32:51 [olyerickson]: Q+
15:33:07 [PhilA]: ack olyerickson
15:33:47 [PhilA]: olyerickson: I had a question... The general concept of building social networks around agencies... NASA is unique, lots of people care about it
15:34:24 [PhilA]: olyerickson: but there are other parts of the US gov who are exploring other methods of reaching its followers
15:34:51 [PhilA]: olyerickson: For example, people are concerned about social services etc. i.e. there are others
15:35:09 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: Can't think of an agency that ISN'T using s.m. in some wau
15:35:33 [olyerickson]: * example: CIA is focusing on improvement; recruiting people to "help out"
15:36:01 [olyerickson]: * so even an agency that doesn't usually share is reaching out
15:36:12 [olyerickson]: * another example: state department
15:36:43 [olyerickson]: * concept: not trying to do everything, but focus with the group(s) you want to reach out to and be where they are
15:37:37 [olyerickson]: Topic: Future Topics
15:37:57 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: has been gathering potential speakers on social media
15:37:57 [Jeanne_]: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/7/73/W3C_eGov_Social_Media.doc for summary
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15:38:42 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: Wants our feedback on how to organize the above
15:39:05 [olyerickson]: * We could come up with "best practices" etc
15:39:23 [olyerickson]: PhilA: everything but a Recommendation(tm)
15:40:01 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: Most interesting thing: what objectives various different govts had in using social media
15:41:07 [olyerickson]: * Presenters didn't intend their methods to be considered "best practices" but rather simple examples of methods
15:41:29 [olyerickson]: Lessons summarized are important
15:41:38 [olyerickson]: Q for group: Is this useful?
15:41:45 [DanielBennett]: queue
15:41:59 [Jeanne_]: ack DanielBennett
15:43:10 [Jeanne_]: Should add in the The interaction between government and the tool providers. Terms of service.
15:43:34 [Jeanne_]: DanielBennett: Legal identifiers, identity issues, licensing should all have a section addressed to it
15:43:51 [olyerickson]: DanielBennett: WOuld liek to see more detail on legal et.al. on
15:43:56 [Jeanne_]: DanielBennett: What is the best way that protects citizens and government's role in use of social media.
15:44:07 [olyerickson]: * e.g. who moderates, what are the issues
15:45:16 [olyerickson]: DanielBennett: The point is, there are lots of issues; they need to be laid out
15:45:33 [olyerickson]: * eg: accessibility
15:45:42 [Jeanne_]: DanielBennett: Accessibility issues, use, copyrights, privacy of citizen information all needs to be understood before "just standing up" a social media capability.
15:45:57 [olyerickson]: * a whole gamet that protects citizens, ensures govt abides by its laws, etc
15:46:09 [Owen]: Here's a plan for use of social media by educational institutions: http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/GSMwStyle.xml
15:46:13 [olyerickson]: Q+
15:46:29 [PhilA]: ack olyerickson
15:46:39 [DanielBennett]: willing to help build out the issues i was mentioning
15:46:50 [Jeanne_]: Note that Rachel Flagg's presentation discussed some of this for the US government: http://www.howto.gov/tos
15:47:00 [PhilA]: olyerickson: On a slightly different point... we're doing some work with NIST on first responders/leveraging social networks
15:47:04 [Jeanne_]: olyerickson: We are doing work on social networks and first responders
15:47:24 [PhilA]: olyerickson: the question comes up around when you create a community cf. when you leverage an existing one
15:47:26 [Owen]: I will render Jeanne's proposed objectives in StratML format.
15:47:46 [PhilA]: olyerickson: NASA has its own platform but you're also using other people's
15:48:03 [Jeanne_]: Thanks Owen! You may want to wait until I get one more draft out
15:48:11 [PhilA]: olyerickson: You said you have multiple FB pages to meet different interests
15:48:54 [PhilA]: olyerickson: You need to go to where people are... that multi-modal approach is more of a methodology
15:49:31 [PhilA]: Jeanne_: (breaking up a little)
15:49:46 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: At W3C Accessibility Conference
15:49:55 [olyerickson]: Using accessibility as an example
15:50:08 [PhilA]: Jeanne_: Only 40% of the US population has meaningful access to the internet
15:50:24 [olyerickson]: "Don't forget traditional ways to engage the public"
15:50:33 [PhilA]: Jeanne_: So social media isn't everything. Still need traditional methods - town hall meetings, snail mail etc
15:51:15 [olyerickson]: * trad. media provides important way to extend the conversation from social media
15:51:37 [olyerickson]: * conversation begins in social media and can go where it needs to
15:51:58 [GannonDick]: thinks, the Flat Earth shouldn't be abandoned just yet
15:52:07 [DanielBennett]: happy to help add that new section
15:52:36 [PhilA]: +1 to a Google doc for a collaborative space
15:52:41 [DanielBennett]: re: government rules meet social media
15:52:41 [PhilA]: or the wiki
15:53:09 [olyerickson]: Topic: [what is the topic?]
15:53:50 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: Use of social media to ensure people are being heard
15:54:23 [olyerickson]: * effectiveness and approriateness of mobile devices
15:54:29 [DanielBennett]: is there a subcommittee that is overseeing the editing of the social media "note"?
15:54:47 [olyerickson]: * use of structured methods
15:55:04 [olyerickson]: Summary: "Tools and Methods" were all over the place
15:56:06 [olyerickson]: Scribe's note: We're still talking about the eGov Social Media "Summary Document"
15:57:00 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: Will add e.g. issues suggested by DanielBennett
15:57:32 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: We've had O(dozen) presentations over last 3 mos
15:57:44 [olyerickson]: * a huge amount of material
15:57:50 [olyerickson]: * but only a small sampling
15:58:08 [olyerickson]: Next steps:
15:58:13 [olyerickson]: * Community Directory
15:58:24 [olyerickson]: * Stakeholder engagement
15:59:14 [olyerickson]: * Feedback Loops
15:59:47 [olyerickson]: * <insert Page 3 "Key Findings" bullets here>
16:01:22 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: Those are *her* key findings, what did others hear?
16:01:52 [olyerickson]: * PhilA: Thanks Jeanne_ a lot of hard work to go through and summarize
16:02:08 [olyerickson]: * hearing the different perspectives e.g. Oman has been eye-opening
16:02:23 [olyerickson]: * Can eGov group take this on and "knock it into shapre"
16:02:37 [olyerickson]: * big but interesting task for group to take it on
16:03:00 [DanielBennett]: We should have a committee that meets in addition to this main meeting to build this document
16:03:10 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: When we re-formed group, we heard "something" should be produced
16:03:30 [olyerickson]: * it is an IG not a WG, there are limits
16:03:39 [DanielBennett]: I helped do this with the past group note
16:03:44 [Owen]: Owen has joined #egov
16:03:50 [olyerickson]: * but this document and a COmmunity Directory are two things that CAN be done
16:04:03 [olyerickson]: +1 to what we were hoping for
16:04:14 [olyerickson]: +1 to helping in a large or small way ;)
16:04:19 [Owen]: Jeanne's draft objectives are now available in StratMLformat at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/OSMG.xml
16:04:32 [Jeanne_]: Thanks Owen
16:05:04 [olyerickson]: Q: Can this doc be W3C wikified in a W3C acceptable way?
16:05:13 [Jeanne_]: DanielBennett: Created a document before with lead people for each section, and separate meetings that helped to work the editorial process
16:06:04 [olyerickson]: Not sure what the work product DanielBennett is referring to might be
16:06:10 [Owen]: I have tried to engage wiki vendors in incorporating the StratML standard into their services ... thus far without discernable results
16:06:12 [olyerickson]: * specifics I mean
16:06:45 [olyerickson]: Q: What is "the format" A "Group Note?"
16:07:08 [olyerickson]: s/decide/understand/
16:07:33 [olyerickson]: DanielBennett: Time constraints need to not be "loosey-goosey"
16:07:50 [olyerickson]: +1 to helping (assuming I understand what I'm helping on)
16:08:09 [GannonDick]: Owen, maybe I could help with a Strat
16:08:20 [GannonDick]: ml to
16:08:39 [GannonDick]: oo which exports
16:08:42 [DeirdreLee]: +1 for information and data sharing section
16:08:48 [GannonDick]: media wiki
16:09:23 [olyerickson]: Q: Will this be W3C hosted []yes []no
16:09:39 [PhilA]: Let me or Sandro know if and when you want to book a slot on the Zakim bridge
16:09:44 [olyerickson]: Q: Will this be in wiki format []yes []no
16:09:52 [GannonDick]: q+
16:09:52 [PhilA]: Yes, olyerickson, it will be W3C hosted
16:10:06 [olyerickson]: Q: Will this be public from the start []yes []no
16:10:16 [Jeanne_]: It is public right now.
16:10:22 [Owen]: I will contribute in any way that I can, both in format and substance
16:10:24 [olyerickson]: DeirdreLee: Will contribute information & data sharing
16:10:31 [PhilA]: ack GannonDick
16:10:39 [Jeanne_]: I would think we should keep it transparent, although as it moves through some iterations it make be in discussion.
16:10:54 [olyerickson]: GannonDick: Can do StratML magic to it
16:11:01 [Owen]: Gannon, you are already referenced at http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm#Part3
16:11:32 [Owen]: Will look forward to seeing StratML wikified
16:12:11 [PhilA]: q+
16:12:27 [PhilA]: ack me
16:12:29 [Jeanne_]: ack PhilA
16:12:30 [DanielBennett]: http://www.w3.org/TR/gov-data/
16:13:00 [olyerickson]: PhilA: Encourages us to not be scared
16:13:18 [olyerickson]: Q: Does W3C process even apply (if this is not a Recommendation(tm) )
16:13:46 [olyerickson]: sandro: Every contributor MUST be a member of the group and follows IP policies
16:14:12 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: Initiate group member list etc yada yada
16:14:25 [olyerickson]: DanielBennett: The wiki platform does a great job
16:14:48 [Jeanne_]: yada yada = make sure people have agreed to W3C intellectual guidelines and policies
16:15:01 [olyerickson]: * even "pencil and paper" (definition? ;) )
16:15:20 [olyerickson]: PhilA: If tehre is something you need/want control over, DON'T contribute it...
16:15:41 [olyerickson]: DanielBennett: If you contribute, your name will be listed (but not good for tenure... )
16:15:50 [olyerickson]: Jeanne_: (garbled)
16:16:14 [olyerickson]: Topic: Wrapup
16:16:21 [DanielBennett]: yw
16:16:22 [olyerickson]: Thanks all around
16:16:47 [olyerickson]: Special thanks to DanielBennett ( Jeanne_ owes him a pint)
16:17:01 [DanielBennett]: excellent, thanks
16:17:26 [olyerickson]: Topic: Future Topics
16:18:05 [olyerickson]: Trying to find someone with knowledge on interaction, policies, etc
16:18:31 [bhyland]: Topic: Community Directory
16:18:36 [PhilA]: scribe: PhilA
16:18:54 [bhyland]: Please keep in mind that the GLD WG has a deliverable that is a community directory, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary
16:18:55 [Zakim]: -olyerickson
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16:19:20 [Brand]: Re I have tried to engage wiki vendors in incorporating the StratML standard into their services - I think we have gone beyond StratML with MindTouch TCS: http://www.mindtouch.com/solutions/knowledge_base
16:19:29 [PhilA]: Jeanne_: I want to go haed and make the building of the directory as an asynchronous activity
16:19:47 [PhilA]: ... want to write a wiki page to set out what we should try and capture
16:20:06 [bhyland]: A working directory that will improve with iteration & input from the eGov IG is here, http://dir.w3.org
16:20:13 [PhilA]: ... doesn't need to be a verbal discussion, just need to get on with it
16:20:30 [PhilA]: bdhandspicker: Doing is better than talking about it
16:21:13 [bhyland]: We're open to making it an Open Data directory ...
16:21:42 [bdhandspicker]: Clarification - precise quote from me: "Sometimes doing is better than talking something to death."
16:21:45 [bhyland]: ++1 to what PhilA is saying, it gardener is required to maintain a garden
16:22:10 [bhyland]: q+
16:23:16 [PhilA]: ack bhyland
16:23:34 [PhilA]: Jeanne_: Sounds good...
16:24:03 [PhilA]: bhyland: +1 to PhilA - it's hard to get this going. We have a directory built on W3C standards top to bottom. What we need is the input
16:24:29 [PhilA]: bhyland: We need more data and maybe a better UI but we should combine our efforts and not diltue them
16:24:47 [PhilA]: s/diltue/dilute/
16:24:47 [Brand]: We are working on a directory of government "big data" sets and projects for Congress and the Federal Government: http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Emerging_Technology_SIG_October_18_Meeting_Big_Data_Committee_Overview
16:25:36 [PhilA]: bhyland: WE should be promoting things like the UK's ODI etc. through the directory
16:25:47 [PhilA]: s/WE/We/
16:26:17 [bdhandspicker]: q+
16:26:19 [PhilA]: bhyland: I would be disappointed if there were multiple directories - we should have one good one.
16:26:28 [PhilA]: Jeanne_: And yes, in this case, more is not better
16:26:51 [PhilA]: Jeanne_: I think it would be appropriate to include the topcs we're looking at. I'll look at the directory
16:26:51 [bhyland]: Caveat: Working code that has a few committed "gardeners" is critical to a community site.
16:27:00 [Owen]: If the directory complies with applicable standards for interoperability, does it matter whether there is one or many?
16:27:16 [Jeanne_]: ack bdhandspicker
16:27:18 [PhilA]: ack bdhandspicker
16:27:34 [PhilA]: bdhandspicker: I was just going to remind folks that not all gov data is open data
16:27:53 [PhilA]: bdhandspicker: But I'm sure that the directory could capture experts in data that isn't open
16:28:08 [Owen]: I'd like to post my own data for the directory(ies) on my own site.
16:28:26 [PhilA]: bhyland: Yes - just because you might come from a company that does OD, that doesn't mean you only do OD
16:29:10 [PhilA]: PhilA: I think that's one of the functions that the Directory has - it's all built on RDF and SPARQL
16:29:17 [PhilA]: ^^ for Owen
16:29:52 [PhilA]: Jeanne: The last thing to mention is ICEGOV in Albany. Both I and Tomas will be there
16:29:59 [PhilA]: PhilA: So will Crossover project btw
16:30:29 [PhilA]: Jeanne: Next project will be Open data. What I want to do is to put out a call for speakers in the next 2 months or so. Including private gov data etc.
16:30:41 [PhilA]: ... we'll be organising those sessions.
16:31:34 [PhilA]: Jeanne: I think the two time zone thing is working - we've had some good comments on that
16:31:55 [PhilA]: Jeanne: Thanks everyone for their contributions
16:31:59 [PhilA]: Adjourned
16:32:01 [bdhandspicker]: I'll scribe next time.... reading the 101 now....
16:32:08 [bdhandspicker]: bye
16:32:08 [DanielBennett]: same here. thanks.
16:32:08 [Brand]: Jeanne. Thanks, I have to go to another meeting - I posted my suggestions
16:32:09 [Zakim]: -bhyland
16:32:10 [DanielBennett]: bye
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16:32:12 [Zakim]: -DeirdreLee
16:32:14 [Zakim]: -Owen
16:32:16 [Zakim]: -PhilA
16:32:16 [Zakim]: -Sandro
16:32:19 [Zakim]: -BrandNieman
16:32:23 [Zakim]: -DanielBennett
16:32:25 [Zakim]: -[IPcaller]
16:32:25 [PhilA]: rrsagent, make logs public
16:32:27 [Zakim]: -bdhandspicker
16:32:33 [PhilA]: rrsagent, generate minutes
16:32:33 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/19-egov-minutes.html PhilA
16:32:41 [Zakim]: -Jeanne
16:32:42 [Zakim]: T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM has ended
16:32:42 [Zakim]: Attendees were Sandro, PhilA, +1.508.333.aaaa, +1.202.684.aabb, GannonDick, Jeanne, bhyland, +1.413.652.aacc, DeirdreLee, +1.843.682.aaee, +1.703.281.aaff, olyerickson,
16:32:42 [Zakim]: ... bdhandspicker, DanielBennett, Owen, BrandNieman, [IPcaller]
16:33:01 [Jeanne_]: Thanks everyone!
16:36:14 [PhilA]: meeting: eGov Interest Group
16:36:27 [PhilA]: rrsagent, generate minutes
16:36:27 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/19-egov-minutes.html PhilA
16:41:33 [PhilA]: PhilA has left #egov
16:59:01 [Owen]: The TR referenced by Daniel is available in StratML format at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/POGDwStyle.xml