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13:50:06 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-irc ←
13:50:24 <josema> chair: kevin, john
13:50:48 <josema> agenda+ Appoint a scribe
José Alonso: agenda+ Appoint a scribe ←
13:51:12 <josema> agenda+ agenda adjustments
José Alonso: agenda+ agenda adjustments ←
13:51:27 <josema> agenda+ Debrief of recent Kevin/TimBL meeting
José Alonso: agenda+ Debrief of recent Kevin/TimBL meeting ←
13:51:39 <josema> agenda+ CEN eGov-Share comments sent
José Alonso: agenda+ CEN eGov-Share comments sent ←
13:51:48 <josema> agenda+ New Use Cases
José Alonso: agenda+ New Use Cases ←
13:52:04 <josema> agenda+ Confirmed: 2nd F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009)
José Alonso: agenda+ Confirmed: 2nd F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009) ←
13:52:16 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
13:52:42 <josema> zakim, move agendum 6 to 4
José Alonso: zakim, move agendum 6 to 4 ←
13:52:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'move agendum 6 to 4', josema
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'move agendum 6 to 4', josema ←
13:54:46 <josema> zakim, order is 1,2,3,6,4,5
José Alonso: zakim, order is 1,2,3,6,4,5 ←
13:54:46 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I do not recognize a party named 'order'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, josema, I do not recognize a party named 'order' ←
13:55:01 <josema> agenda order is 1,2,3,6,4,5
José Alonso: agenda order is 1,2,3,6,4,5 ←
13:55:04 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
13:55:29 <josema> agenda+ Editor's draft
José Alonso: agenda+ Editor's draft ←
13:55:39 <josema> agenda+ Deadlines and completeness
José Alonso: agenda+ Deadlines and completeness ←
13:55:49 <josema> agenda+ Open actions
José Alonso: agenda+ Open actions ←
13:55:58 <josema> agenda+ Next Meeting
José Alonso: agenda+ Next Meeting ←
13:56:01 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
13:56:37 <josema> trackbot, start telcon
José Alonso: trackbot, start telcon ←
13:56:39 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
13:56:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV ←
13:56:41 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes ←
13:56:42 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
13:56:42 <trackbot> Date: 21 January 2009
13:56:56 <josema> chair: kevin, john
13:57:52 <kevin> I am here on IRC and about to jump on the conference line.
Kevin Novak: I am here on IRC and about to jump on the conference line. ←
13:58:07 <josema> hi kevin :)
José Alonso: hi kevin :) ←
14:00:23 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started ←
14:00:24 <Zakim> +Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema ←
14:00:46 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
14:00:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Josema ←
14:00:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see kevin, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see kevin, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, trackbot ←
14:02:40 <Zakim> + +1.509.464.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.464.aaaa ←
14:03:15 <josema> zakim, aaaa is rachel
José Alonso: zakim, aaaa is rachel ←
14:03:16 <Zakim> +rachel; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +rachel; got it ←
14:03:42 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
14:03:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see Josema, rachel
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Josema, rachel ←
14:03:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, kevin, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Rachel, kevin, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, trackbot ←
14:03:58 <josema> zakim, rachel is Rachel
José Alonso: zakim, rachel is Rachel ←
14:03:58 <Zakim> +Rachel; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Rachel; got it ←
14:05:05 <Zakim> + +1.202.207.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.207.aabb ←
14:05:27 <Zakim> +john
Zakim IRC Bot: +john ←
14:05:38 <Zakim> + +1.301.455.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.301.455.aacc ←
14:05:40 <josema> zakim, aabb is kevin
José Alonso: zakim, aabb is kevin ←
14:05:40 <Zakim> +kevin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +kevin; got it ←
14:05:49 <josema> zakim, aacc is owen
José Alonso: zakim, aacc is owen ←
14:05:49 <Zakim> +owen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +owen; got it ←
14:06:33 <Zakim> -Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←
14:07:07 <Zakim> +berrueta
Zakim IRC Bot: +berrueta ←
14:07:52 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
14:10:04 <josema> agenda?
José Alonso: agenda? ←
14:10:27 <john> I can scribe if Kevin wants to chair?
John Sheridan: I can scribe if Kevin wants to chair? ←
14:10:50 <josema> scribe: josema
(Scribe set to José Alonso)
14:11:01 <josema> move to next agendum
move to next agendum ←
14:11:01 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Appoint a scribe" taken up [from josema]
14:11:19 <josema> me takes on scribing
me takes on scribing ←
14:11:25 <josema> move to next agendum
move to next agendum ←
14:11:25 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, josema
Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 1 was just opened, josema ←
14:11:29 <josema> close this agendum
close this agendum ←
14:11:33 <josema> move to next agendum
move to next agendum ←
14:11:33 <Zakim> agendum 2. "agenda adjustments" taken up [from josema]
14:11:40 <josema> close this agendum
close this agendum ←
14:11:44 <josema> move to next agendum
move to next agendum ←
14:11:44 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Debrief of recent Kevin/TimBL meeting" taken up [from josema]
14:12:03 <josema> kevin: met with TimBL at MIT, talked about challenges
Kevin Novak: met with TimBL at MIT, talked about challenges ←
14:12:32 <josema> ... eGov activity being long term, challenges of our first year
... eGov activity being long term, challenges of our first year ←
14:12:54 <josema> ... talked about optimism around Obama
... talked about optimism around Obama ←
14:13:18 <josema> ... issues paper important for people like new administration in the US
... issues paper important for people like new administration in the US ←
14:13:33 <josema> ... to understand importance of open standards, etc.
... to understand importance of open standards, etc. ←
14:13:59 <josema> ... Obama also talking about US being recognized as the lead in initiatives
... Obama also talking about US being recognized as the lead in initiatives ←
14:14:09 <josema> ... we need to review charter by May
... we need to review charter by May ←
14:14:18 <josema> ... setup agenda for next 1-2 years
... setup agenda for next 1-2 years ←
14:14:39 <josema> ... overall a good conversation
... overall a good conversation ←
14:14:59 <josema> ... Tim to give keynote at @@ event, gave him some ideas
... Tim to give keynote at TED event, gave him some ideas ←
14:15:23 <josema> ... also to Karen Myers, speech to focus on openness and transparency
... also to Karen Myers, speech to focus on openness and transparency ←
14:15:54 <josema> ... start on capitalizing on opportunities with new US Admin.
... start on capitalizing on opportunities with new US Admin. ←
14:16:19 <josema> ... also had lunch with KM, talked about our focus on high level issues
... also had lunch with KM, talked about our focus on high level issues ←
14:16:30 <josema> ... the need of coordination with other Groups at W3C
... the need of coordination with other Groups at W3C ←
14:17:03 <josema> ... the policy vs. technology differences
... the policy vs. technology differences ←
14:17:32 <josema> ... the upcoming AC Meeting, much strategic discussion expected
... the upcoming AC Meeting, much strategic discussion expected ←
14:18:19 <josema> ... development vs. deployment, need to get a better and bigger picture
... development vs. deployment, need to get a better and bigger picture ←
14:18:49 <josema> ... talked to TimBL about meeting at TWB back in November 2008
... talked to TimBL about meeting at TWB back in November 2008 ←
14:19:10 <josema> ... there was discussion about technological issues in developing countries
... there was discussion about technological issues in developing countries ←
14:19:23 <josema> ... financial data, government services
... financial data, government services ←
14:19:53 <josema> ... Tim thinks it was a great brainstorming session, but not many conclusions yet
... Tim thinks it was a great brainstorming session, but not many conclusions yet ←
14:20:40 <josema> ... TWB championing eGov architecture in dev. countries??
... TWB championing eGov architecture in dev. countries?? ←
14:21:15 <josema> ... need to work with legacy systems, but also long-term planning and new infrastructure in place
... need to work with legacy systems, but also long-term planning and new infrastructure in place ←
14:21:51 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
14:25:06 <josema> s/@@/TED
14:25:39 <josema> [connection between open government and open standards]
[connection between open government and open standards] ←
14:26:27 <josema> john: interesting how we can make SW work for Gov
John Sheridan: interesting how we can make SW work for Gov ←
14:26:43 <josema> ... there are some practical things that are easy to do and can be done today
... there are some practical things that are easy to do and can be done today ←
14:26:58 <josema> ... that would be the building blocks for future apps
... that would be the building blocks for future apps ←
14:27:37 <josema> owen: any specific actions came out of the meeting?
Owen Ambur: any specific actions came out of the meeting? ←
14:28:49 <josema> kevin: 1)publish our document, maybe in pieces??, 2)re-charter, 3)asked Tim, others to support our work, 4)funding, emphasized the importance of our work
Kevin Novak: 1)publish our document, maybe in pieces??, 2)re-charter, 3)asked Tim, others to support our work, 4)funding, emphasized the importance of our work ←
14:29:17 <josema> ... 5)need to outreach in conferences
... 5)need to outreach in conferences ←
14:29:47 <josema> owen: good, I will think about it and things we could do to support those
Owen Ambur: good, I will think about it and things we could do to support those ←
14:29:50 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
14:30:03 <josema> move to next agendum
move to next agendum ←
14:30:08 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Confirmed: 2nd F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009)" taken up [from josema]
14:30:29 <josema> kevin: confirmed meeting at AIA, board room can host up to 65??
Kevin Novak: confirmed meeting at AIA, board room can host up to 65?? ←
14:30:49 <josema> ... calls are good, but some F2F could also help us focus better
... calls are good, but some F2F could also help us focus better ←
14:31:00 <josema> ... on where we are, what we should do, how to move forward
... on where we are, what we should do, how to move forward ←
14:31:17 <josema> ... expect it will help energize people
... expect it will help energize people ←
14:31:53 <josema> ... also taking advantage of new US Admin.
... also taking advantage of new US Admin. ←
14:32:16 <josema> rachel: I'm disappointed because of not getting more people on calls
Rachel Flagg: I'm disappointed because of not getting more people on calls ←
14:32:36 <josema> ... understand all very busy, but this is an important and huge topic
... understand all very busy, but this is an important and huge topic ←
14:33:02 <josema> kevin: agree
Kevin Novak: agree ←
14:34:13 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
14:34:51 <josema> owen: I presume people are not in calls because they have more urgent and important things to do
Owen Ambur: I presume people are not in calls because they have more urgent and important things to do ←
14:35:11 <josema> ... we should try to reflect their issues they are trying to solve in the paper???
... we should try to reflect their issues they are trying to solve in the paper??? ←
14:36:35 <john> q+
John Sheridan: q+ ←
14:36:37 <josema> ... I think it's because people is busy, not because they are not interested
... I think it's because people is busy, not because they are not interested ←
14:36:40 <josema> q?
q? ←
14:37:10 <josema> zakim, take up agendum 7
zakim, take up agendum 7 ←
14:37:10 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Editor's draft" taken up [from josema]
14:37:25 <josema> [kevin on document authorship]
[kevin on document authorship] ←
14:39:42 <josema> ack john
ack john ←
14:40:01 <josema> [jose on authorship, message is coming, sorry for the dealy]
[jose on authorship, message is coming, sorry for the dealy] ←
14:40:20 <josema> john: besides draft, how can we encourage people to attend?
John Sheridan: besides draft, how can we encourage people to attend? ←
14:40:47 <josema> ... we organized a barcamp recently and 150+ people showed up
... we organized a barcamp recently and 150+ people showed up ←
14:41:08 <josema> ... seats were gone in just 24 hours??
... seats were gone in just 24 hours?? ←
14:44:43 <Zakim> + +34.98.439.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +34.98.439.aadd ←
14:44:54 <josema> zakim, aaadd is oscar
zakim, aaadd is oscar ←
14:44:54 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I do not recognize a party named 'aaadd'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, josema, I do not recognize a party named 'aaadd' ←
14:45:00 <josema> zakim, aadd is oscar
zakim, aadd is oscar ←
14:45:00 <Zakim> +oscar; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +oscar; got it ←
14:45:05 <ocr> hi all
Scribe problem: the name 'ocr' does not match any of the 38 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'ocr' does not match any of the 38 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown ocr: hi all ←
14:45:16 <josema> [jose on lowering barriers as much as possible]
[jose on lowering barriers as much as possible] ←
14:45:18 <ocr> sorry for being late - coming from the never ending meeting :(
Scribe problem: the name 'ocr' does not match any of the 38 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'ocr' does not match any of the 38 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown ocr: sorry for being late - coming from the never ending meeting :( ←
14:45:52 <josema> kevin: yes, room holds 65
Kevin Novak: yes, room holds 65 ←
14:46:10 <josema> ... if we could have a very good speaker, that could also help
... if we could have a very good speaker, that could also help ←
14:46:15 <josema> owen: any idea on who?
Owen Ambur: any idea on who? ←
14:46:37 <josema> kevin: not yet, maybe someone from the Obama administration
Kevin Novak: not yet, maybe someone from the Obama administration ←
14:46:59 <josema> ... tried to get one from the campaign to speak at AIA but everybody too busy right now
... tried to get one from the campaign to speak at AIA but everybody too busy right now ←
14:47:32 <josema> owen: obviously the head of technology of his transition Team, but probably a long shot
Owen Ambur: obviously the head of technology of his transition Team, but probably a long shot ←
14:47:40 <josema> kevin: I agree
Kevin Novak: I agree ←
14:47:51 <josema> rachel: let me think about it
Rachel Flagg: let me think about it ←
14:47:59 <josema> owen: I'll give it some thought, too
Owen Ambur: I'll give it some thought, too ←
14:48:27 <josema> kevin: reaching out to FIRM, so maybe they would like to participate, too
Kevin Novak: reaching out to FIRM, so maybe they would like to participate, too ←
14:48:38 <josema> ... thanks Owen for putting us in touch, btw
... thanks Owen for putting us in touch, btw ←
14:48:44 <josema> owen: ok
Owen Ambur: ok ←
14:49:14 <josema> john: I don't think it would be difficult to get a bunch of people
John Sheridan: I don't think it would be difficult to get a bunch of people ←
14:49:31 <josema> ... many people interested in discussing pressing issues
... many people interested in discussing pressing issues ←
14:50:13 <josema> ... if we can have an easy for people to figure out how to participate
... if we can have an easy for people to figure out how to participate ←
14:50:22 <josema> ... we may use some tools
... we may use some tools ←
14:50:47 <josema> ... will use my Twitter
... will use my Twitter ←
14:51:03 <josema> [[me did this so far:
[[me did this so far: ←
14:51:05 <josema> http://www.w3.org/blog/egov/2009/01/17/egovig_f2f_2
http://www.w3.org/blog/egov/2009/01/17/egovig_f2f_2 ←
14:51:05 <josema> http://www.epractice.eu/document/5372
http://www.epractice.eu/document/5372 ←
14:51:05 <josema> http://www.govloop.com/events/w3c-egovernment-interest-group
http://www.govloop.com/events/w3c-egovernment-interest-group ←
14:51:05 <josema> http://events.linkedin.com/pub/29772
http://events.linkedin.com/pub/29772 ←
14:51:06 <josema> ]]
]] ←
14:52:02 <josema> kevin: we may have a PR piece that we could circulate to those
Kevin Novak: we may have a PR piece that we could circulate to those ←
14:52:07 <john> like always Jose, one step ahead
John Sheridan: like always Jose, one step ahead ←
14:55:12 <josema> jose: what else to do besides that?
José Alonso: what else to do besides that? ←
14:55:37 <josema> kevin: we are doing our best effort, let's outreach to our networks
Kevin Novak: we are doing our best effort, let's outreach to our networks ←
14:56:14 <josema> jose: very much believe we need to get the draft out, and things will change for good
José Alonso: very much believe we need to get the draft out, and things will change for better ←
14:56:17 <josema> kevin: agree
Kevin Novak: agree ←
14:56:30 <josema> s/good/better
14:56:51 <john> Have tweeted: http://twitter.com/johnlsheridan/status/1136357938
John Sheridan: Have tweeted: http://twitter.com/johnlsheridan/status/1136357938 ←
14:57:04 <josema> owen: in my experience, this comes down to 2-3 committed individuals to do the drating
Owen Ambur: in my experience, this comes down to 2-3 committed individuals to do the drafting ←
14:57:08 <josema> s/drating/drafting
14:57:12 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
14:57:24 <josema> zakim, close agendum 6
zakim, close agendum 6 ←
14:57:24 <Zakim> agendum 6, Confirmed: 2nd F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009), closed
Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 6, Confirmed: 2nd F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009), closed ←
14:57:25 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
Zakim IRC Bot: I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is ←
14:57:26 <Zakim> 4. CEN eGov-Share comments sent [from josema]
Zakim IRC Bot: 4. CEN eGov-Share comments sent [from josema] ←
14:57:51 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2009/01/W3C-CEN-eGov-Share-comments
http://www.w3.org/2009/01/W3C-CEN-eGov-Share-comments ←
14:59:43 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
15:00:53 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum
zakim, take up next agendum ←
15:00:53 <Zakim> agendum 4. "CEN eGov-Share comments sent" taken up [from josema]
15:01:01 <josema> zakim, close this agendum
zakim, close this agendum ←
15:01:01 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 4 closed ←
15:01:02 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
Zakim IRC Bot: I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is ←
15:01:03 <Zakim> 5. New Use Cases [from josema]
Zakim IRC Bot: 5. New Use Cases [from josema] ←
15:01:05 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum
zakim, take up next agendum ←
15:01:05 <Zakim> agendum 5. "New Use Cases" taken up [from josema]
15:01:18 <josema> [[ http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_10_-_Persistent_URIs
[[ http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_10_-_Persistent_URIs ←
15:01:19 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_11_-_Identification_Authentication
http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_11_-_Identification_Authentication ←
15:01:19 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_12_-_Risk_Management_for_Social_Media
http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_12_-_Risk_Management_for_Social_Media ←
15:01:19 <josema> ]]
]] ←
15:04:09 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/UseCases/
http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/UseCases/ ←
15:10:26 <josema> [jose on need for stable location]
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[jose on need for stable location] ←
15:11:06 <josema> [kevin, john agree]
[kevin, john agree] ←
15:11:31 <josema> [jose on difference between use cases and case studies]
[jose on difference between use cases and case studies] ←
15:12:37 <josema> many thanks to Martin Alvarez (W3C.es) for helping me put together the stuff!
many thanks to Martin Alvarez (W3C.es) for helping me put together the stuff! ←
15:12:45 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
15:13:16 <josema> [john on government changes and persistence]
[john on government changes and persistence] ←
15:13:38 <josema> john: whitehouse.gov as example, fully changed yesterday
John Sheridan: whitehouse.gov as example, fully changed yesterday ←
15:14:53 <josema> owen: I haven't realized, but I was trying to find a OMB circular that is not available
Owen Ambur: I haven't realized, but I was trying to find a OMB circular that is not available ←
15:15:08 <josema> rachel: maybe at a different address than where it was last night
Rachel Flagg: maybe at a different address than where it was last night ←
15:15:29 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
15:17:22 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open
http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open ←
15:18:10 <josema> ACTION rachel to provide use case on social media
ACTION rachel to provide use case on social media ←
15:18:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-42 - Provide use case on social media [on Rachel Flagg - due 2009-01-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-42 - Provide use case on social media [on Rachel Flagg - due 2009-01-28]. ←
15:18:24 <josema> ACTION rachel to provide use case on "plain language"
ACTION rachel to provide use case on "plain language" ←
15:18:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-43 - Provide use case on \"plain language\" [on Rachel Flagg - due 2009-01-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-43 - Provide use case on \"plain language\" [on Rachel Flagg - due 2009-01-28]. ←
15:19:09 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
15:19:30 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum
zakim, take up next agendum ←
15:19:30 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Deadlines and completeness" taken up [from josema]
15:19:50 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/ActivityPlan
http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/ActivityPlan ←
15:23:15 <josema> [jose on deadlines]
[jose on deadlines] ←
15:23:33 <josema> jose: propose 28 February as hard deadline
José Alonso: propose 28 February as hard deadline ←
15:25:25 <josema> kevin: ok
Kevin Novak: ok ←
15:25:27 <josema> john: ok
John Sheridan: ok ←
15:25:59 <josema> oscar: also interested in interop
Oscar Azanon Esteire: also interested in interop ←
15:26:09 <josema> jose: I'm putting john, oscar there
José Alonso: I'm putting john, oscar there ←
15:26:11 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
15:26:31 <josema> take up next agendum
take up next agendum ←
15:26:33 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open
http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open ←
15:27:43 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
15:28:06 <josema> next meeting: 4 Feb
next meeting: 4 Feb ←
15:28:50 <Zakim> -kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: -kevin ←
15:28:52 <Zakim> -owen
Zakim IRC Bot: -owen ←
15:28:53 <Zakim> -Rachel
Zakim IRC Bot: -Rachel ←
15:28:55 <Zakim> -josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -josema ←
15:28:55 <Zakim> -john
Zakim IRC Bot: -john ←
15:29:00 <josema> [ADJOURNED]
[ADJOURNED] ←
15:31:06 <josema> zakim, list attendees
zakim, list attendees ←
15:31:06 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Josema, +1.509.464.aaaa, Rachel, +1.202.207.aabb, john, +1.301.455.aacc, kevin, owen, +34.98.439.aadd, oscar
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been Josema, +1.509.464.aaaa, Rachel, +1.202.207.aabb, john, +1.301.455.aacc, kevin, owen, +34.98.439.aadd, oscar ←
15:31:12 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
rrsagent, draft minutes ←
15:31:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema ←
15:31:16 <Zakim> -oscar
Zakim IRC Bot: -oscar ←
15:31:18 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended ←
15:31:19 <Zakim> Attendees were Josema, +1.509.464.aaaa, Rachel, +1.202.207.aabb, john, +1.301.455.aacc, kevin, owen, +34.98.439.aadd, oscar
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Josema, +1.509.464.aaaa, Rachel, +1.202.207.aabb, john, +1.301.455.aacc, kevin, owen, +34.98.439.aadd, oscar ←
15:42:26 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
(No events recorded for 11 minutes)
rrsagent, draft minutes ←
15:42:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema ←
16:05:52 <josema> agenda?
(No events recorded for 23 minutes)
agenda? ←
16:06:07 <josema> next agendum
next agendum ←
16:06:17 <josema> zakim, next agendum
zakim, next agendum ←
16:06:23 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum
zakim, take up next agendum ←
16:06:24 <Zakim> agendum 10 was just opened, josema
Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 10 was just opened, josema ←
16:06:30 <Zakim> agendum 10 was just opened, josema
Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 10 was just opened, josema ←
16:06:39 <josema> zakim, close agendum
zakim, close agendum ←
16:06:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close agendum', josema
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'close agendum', josema ←
16:06:47 <josema> zakim, close this agendum
zakim, close this agendum ←
16:06:47 <Zakim> agendum 10 closed
Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 10 closed ←
16:06:48 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
Zakim IRC Bot: I see nothing remaining on the agenda ←
16:06:51 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
rrsagent, draft minutes ←
16:06:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema ←
16:25:00 <josema> zakim, bye
(No events recorded for 18 minutes)
zakim, bye ←
16:25:04 <josema> rrsagent, bye
rrsagent, bye ←
16:25:04 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items ←
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