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15:55:09 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/11/19-egov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/11/19-egov-irc ←
15:55:18 <josema> josema has changed the topic to: Chairs call
José Alonso: josema has changed the topic to: Chairs call ←
15:55:35 <josema> chair: john, kevin
15:55:44 <josema> scribe: minute
Scribe problem: the name 'minute' does not match any of the 39 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
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15:55:48 <josema> scribe: josema
(Scribe set to José Alonso)
15:55:52 <josema> agenda?
agenda? ←
16:00:17 <josema> trackbot, start telcon
trackbot, start telcon ←
16:00:20 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
16:00:22 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV ←
16:00:22 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_EGOV()11:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot, I see T&S_EGOV()11:00AM already started ←
16:00:23 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
16:00:23 <trackbot> Date: 19 November 2008
16:00:26 <josema> zakim, call josema-office
zakim, call josema-office ←
16:00:26 <Zakim> ok, josema; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, josema; the call is being made ←
16:00:27 <Zakim> +Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema ←
16:00:31 <Zakim> -Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←
16:00:36 <josema> zakim, call josema-office
zakim, call josema-office ←
16:00:36 <Zakim> ok, josema; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, josema; the call is being made ←
16:00:38 <Zakim> +Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema ←
16:01:04 <josema> zakim, josema has also oscar
zakim, josema has also oscar ←
16:01:04 <Zakim> +also, oscar; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +also, oscar; got it ←
16:01:11 <josema> zaki, who's here?
zaki, who's here? ←
16:01:15 <josema> zakim, who's here?
zakim, who's here? ←
16:01:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see john, Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see john, Josema ←
16:01:16 <Zakim> Josema has also, oscar
Zakim IRC Bot: Josema has also, oscar ←
16:01:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, john, josema, darobin, trackbot, kjetil
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, john, josema, darobin, trackbot, kjetil ←
16:07:19 <john> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2008/nov/12/ordnance-survey-google-maps-copyright
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John Sheridan: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2008/nov/12/ordnance-survey-google-maps-copyright ←
16:09:02 <john> also http://www.freeourdata.org.uk/blog/index.php
John Sheridan: also http://www.freeourdata.org.uk/blog/index.php ←
16:10:19 <Zakim> + +1.202.626.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.626.aaaa ←
16:10:44 <josema> zakim, aaaa is kevin
zakim, aaaa is kevin ←
16:10:44 <Zakim> +kevin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +kevin; got it ←
16:11:36 <josema> zakim, who's here?
zakim, who's here? ←
16:11:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see john, Josema, kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see john, Josema, kevin ←
16:11:38 <Zakim> Josema has also, oscar
Zakim IRC Bot: Josema has also, oscar ←
16:11:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, john, josema, darobin, trackbot, kjetil
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, john, josema, darobin, trackbot, kjetil ←
16:12:01 <josema> zakim, who's noisy?
zakim, who's noisy? ←
16:12:13 <Zakim> josema, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: john (33%), Josema (5%), kevin (77%)
Zakim IRC Bot: josema, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: john (33%), Josema (5%), kevin (77%) ←
16:14:06 <john> competition winners: http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/2008/11/and-the-winners-are.html (not for minutes)
John Sheridan: competition winners: http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/2008/11/and-the-winners-are.html (not for minutes) ←
16:16:42 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Cases
http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Cases ←
16:21:21 <josema> [some talking about the Group Note]
[some talking about the Group Note] ←
16:21:43 <josema> [jose suggests the structure to be captured from existing stuff]
[jose suggests the structure to be captured from existing stuff] ←
16:21:55 <josema> john: idea looks good to me
John Sheridan: idea looks good to me ←
16:22:10 <josema> kevin: rough outline
Kevin Novak: rough outline ←
16:22:12 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/GroupOutline
http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/GroupOutline ←
16:23:16 <josema> ... should serve as basis for document
... should serve as basis for document ←
16:23:33 <josema> ... matter of compiling the information in these terms
... matter of compiling the information in these terms ←
16:24:54 <josema> josema: ok, I can take care that
José Alonso: ok, I can take care that ←
16:25:11 <josema> ACTION josema to draft document outline based on existing stuff
ACTION josema to draft document outline based on existing stuff ←
16:25:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-37 - Draft document outline based on existing stuff [on José Manuel Alonso - due 2008-11-26].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-37 - Draft document outline based on existing stuff [on José Manuel Alonso - due 2008-11-26]. ←
16:25:33 <josema> ACTION kevin to update Activity Plan
ACTION kevin to update Activity Plan ←
16:25:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-38 - Update Activity Plan [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-11-26].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-38 - Update Activity Plan [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-11-26]. ←
16:26:08 <josema> josema: what else?
José Alonso: what else? ←
16:26:14 <josema> kevin: status of IG
Kevin Novak: status of IG ←
16:26:40 <josema> ... Chris expects his TF to have something to report on the next Group call
... Chris expects his TF to have something to report on the next Group call ←
16:27:08 <josema> oscar: no interest expressed to me in order to develop any of my TF related use cases
Oscar Azanon Esteire: no interest expressed to me in order to develop any of my TF related use cases ←
16:27:44 <josema> kevin: I haven't seen any response from Ari to the email I sent last week to TF coordinators asking for updates
Kevin Novak: I haven't seen any response from Ari to the email I sent last week to TF coordinators asking for updates ←
16:31:59 <josema> josema: have you decided on any of the proposals I sent before the previous call?
José Alonso: have you decided on any of the proposals I sent before the previous call? ←
16:32:16 <josema> ... just do use cases or try to come up with BPs, too?
... just do use cases or try to come up with BPs, too? ←
16:32:33 <josema> [kevin reviews Activity Plan aloud]
[kevin reviews Activity Plan aloud] ←
16:33:34 <josema> kevin: trying to produce more than the use cases stuff from here to the summer looks difficult
Kevin Novak: trying to produce more than the use cases stuff from here to the summer looks difficult ←
16:33:39 <josema> john: agree
John Sheridan: agree ←
16:34:39 <josema> kevin: we need to be successful in a timely fashion, lots of exciting stuff going on here in the US
Kevin Novak: we need to be successful in a timely fashion, lots of exciting stuff going on here in the US ←
16:36:40 <josema> john: reality check is that we need to get the use cases out
John Sheridan: reality check is that we need to get the use cases out ←
16:38:59 <josema> josema: would you like to discuss about dates?
José Alonso: would you like to discuss about dates? ←
16:39:07 <josema> kevin, john: yes
kevin, john: yes ←
16:40:12 <josema> [about moratoria: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2008AprJun/0066]
[about moratoria: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2008AprJun/0066] ←
16:48:51 <josema> josema: what about having an editor draft in 2-3 weeks from now?
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José Alonso: what about having an editor's draft in 2-3 weeks from now? ←
16:49:00 <josema> s/editor/editor's
16:49:39 <josema> john: having he Group draft published in mid-December or mid-January, does not make a difference to me
John Sheridan: having he Group draft published in mid-December or mid-January, does not make a difference to me ←
16:51:52 <josema> john: it would be useful for me that once we have the structure to have it shared, even if it has lots of gaps
John Sheridan: it would be useful for me that once we have the structure to have it shared, even if it has lots of gaps ←
16:55:00 <john> whatever is easy, is fine by me
John Sheridan: whatever is easy, is fine by me ←
16:56:28 <john> I'm going to need to go in 3 mins...
John Sheridan: I'm going to need to go in 3 mins... ←
16:59:03 <josema> ACTION josema to go around and ask people outside the Group to send use cases
ACTION josema to go around and ask people outside the Group to send use cases ←
16:59:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-39 - Go around and ask people outside the Group to send use cases [on José Manuel Alonso - due 2008-11-26].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-39 - Go around and ask people outside the Group to send use cases [on José Manuel Alonso - due 2008-11-26]. ←
17:01:04 <Zakim> -kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: -kevin ←
17:01:10 <Zakim> -Josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←
17:01:11 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()11:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()11:00AM has ended ←
17:01:12 <Zakim> Attendees were john, also, oscar, +1.202.626.aaaa, kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were john, also, oscar, +1.202.626.aaaa, kevin ←
17:02:19 <josema> oscar: let's start asking people in the Group to participate at least in one use case
Oscar Azanon Esteire: let's start asking people in the Group to participate at least in one use case ←
17:02:23 <josema> kevin: +1
Kevin Novak: +1 ←
17:02:25 <josema> john: +1
John Sheridan: +1 ←
17:02:32 <josema> [ADJOURNED]
[ADJOURNED] ←
17:02:41 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
rrsagent, draft minutes ←
17:02:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/19-egov-minutes.html josema
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/19-egov-minutes.html josema ←
17:38:56 <josema> zakim, bye
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zakim, bye ←
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