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15:55:18 <josema> josema has changed the topic to: Chairs call
15:55:35 <josema> chair: john, kevin
15:55:44 <josema> scribe: minute
15:55:48 <josema> scribe: josema
15:55:52 <josema> agenda?
16:00:17 <josema> trackbot, start telcon
16:00:20 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:00:22 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
16:00:22 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_EGOV()11:00AM already started
16:00:23 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
16:00:23 <trackbot> Date: 19 November 2008
16:00:26 <josema> zakim, call josema-office
16:00:26 <Zakim> ok, josema; the call is being made
16:00:27 <Zakim> +Josema
16:00:31 <Zakim> -Josema
16:00:36 <josema> zakim, call josema-office
16:00:36 <Zakim> ok, josema; the call is being made
16:00:38 <Zakim> +Josema
16:01:04 <josema> zakim, josema has also oscar
16:01:04 <Zakim> +also, oscar; got it
16:01:11 <josema> zaki, who's here?
16:01:15 <josema> zakim, who's here?
16:01:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see john, Josema
16:01:16 <Zakim> Josema has also, oscar
16:01:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, john, josema, darobin, trackbot, kjetil
16:07:19 <john> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2008/nov/12/ordnance-survey-google-maps-copyright
16:09:02 <john> also http://www.freeourdata.org.uk/blog/index.php
16:10:19 <Zakim> + +1.202.626.aaaa
16:10:44 <josema> zakim, aaaa is kevin
16:10:44 <Zakim> +kevin; got it
16:11:36 <josema> zakim, who's here?
16:11:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see john, Josema, kevin
16:11:38 <Zakim> Josema has also, oscar
16:11:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, john, josema, darobin, trackbot, kjetil
16:12:01 <josema> zakim, who's noisy?
16:12:13 <Zakim> josema, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: john (33%), Josema (5%), kevin (77%)
16:14:06 <john> competition winners: http://www.showusabetterway.co.uk/call/2008/11/and-the-winners-are.html (not for minutes)
16:16:42 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Cases
16:21:21 <josema> [some talking about the Group Note]
16:21:43 <josema> [jose suggests the structure to be captured from existing stuff]
16:21:55 <josema> john: idea looks good to me
16:22:10 <josema> kevin: rough outline
16:22:12 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/GroupOutline
16:23:16 <josema> ... should serve as basis for document
16:23:33 <josema> ... matter of compiling the information in these terms
16:24:54 <josema> josema: ok, I can take care that
16:25:11 <josema> ACTION josema to draft document outline based on existing stuff
16:25:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-37 - Draft document outline based on existing stuff [on José Manuel Alonso - due 2008-11-26].
16:25:33 <josema> ACTION kevin to update Activity Plan
16:25:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-38 - Update Activity Plan [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-11-26].
16:26:08 <josema> josema: what else?
16:26:14 <josema> kevin: status of IG
16:26:40 <josema> ... Chris expects his TF to have something to report on the next Group call
16:27:08 <josema> oscar: no interest expressed to me in order to develop any of my TF related use cases
16:27:44 <josema> kevin: I haven't seen any response from Ari to the email I sent last week to TF coordinators asking for updates
16:31:59 <josema> josema: have you decided on any of the proposals I sent before the previous call?
16:32:16 <josema> ... just do use cases or try to come up with BPs, too?
16:32:33 <josema> [kevin reviews Activity Plan aloud]
16:33:34 <josema> kevin: trying to produce more than the use cases stuff from here to the summer looks difficult
16:33:39 <josema> john: agree
16:34:39 <josema> kevin: we need to be successful in a timely fashion, lots of exciting stuff going on here in the US
16:36:40 <josema> john: reality check is that we need to get the use cases out
16:38:59 <josema> josema: would you like to discuss about dates?
16:39:07 <josema> kevin, john: yes
16:40:12 <josema> [about moratoria: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2008AprJun/0066]
16:48:51 <josema> josema: what about having an editor draft in 2-3 weeks from now?
16:49:00 <josema> s/editor/editor's
16:49:39 <josema> john: having he Group draft published in mid-December or mid-January, does not make a difference to me
16:51:52 <josema> john: it would be useful for me that once we have the structure to have it shared, even if it has lots of gaps
16:55:00 <john> whatever is easy, is fine by me
16:56:28 <john> I'm going to need to go in 3 mins...
16:59:03 <josema> ACTION josema to go around and ask people outside the Group to send use cases
16:59:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-39 - Go around and ask people outside the Group to send use cases [on José Manuel Alonso - due 2008-11-26].
17:01:04 <Zakim> -kevin
17:01:10 <Zakim> -Josema
17:01:11 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()11:00AM has ended
17:01:12 <Zakim> Attendees were john, also, oscar, +1.202.626.aaaa, kevin
17:02:19 <josema> oscar: let's start asking people in the Group to participate at least in one use case
17:02:23 <josema> kevin: +1
17:02:25 <josema> john: +1
17:02:32 <josema> [ADJOURNED]
17:02:41 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:02:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/19-egov-minutes.html josema
17:38:56 <josema> zakim, bye
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