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eGov IG TF coordinators + Chairs call

Minutes of 03 July 2008

Agenda

no specific agenda

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José Alonso, Kevin Novak, Kjetil Kjernsmo, Unknown Chris, Unknown Oscar, Unknown oazanon

Chair

Kevin Novak

Scribe

José Alonso

IRC Log

Original

Resolutions

None.

Topics

engaging Group Members

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13:59:11 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-egov-irc

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13:59:13 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

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13:59:15 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV ←

13:59:16 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference

13:59:16 <trackbot> Date: 03 July 2008

13:59:16 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see Team_(egovtf)14:00Z scheduled to start in 1 minute

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see Team_(egovtf)14:00Z scheduled to start in 1 minute ←

13:59:54 <josema> josema has changed the topic to: ongoing TF coordinators + Chairs call

José Alonso: josema has changed the topic to: ongoing TF coordinators + Chairs call ←

14:00:12 <josema> Meeting: eGov IG TF coordinators + Chairs call

14:00:23 <josema> Agenda: no specific agenda

14:00:47 <josema> scribe: josema

(Scribe set to José Alonso)

14:01:12 <josema> chair: Kevin

14:01:24 <Zakim> Team_(egovtf)14:00Z has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: Team_(egovtf)14:00Z has now started ←

14:01:25 <Zakim> +Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema ←

14:02:41 <Zakim> + +1.202.731.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.731.aaaa ←

14:03:53 <josema> zakim, aaaa is kevin

zakim, aaaa is kevin ←

14:03:54 <Zakim> +kevin; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +kevin; got it ←

14:04:12 <Zakim> + +1.202.488.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.488.aabb ←

14:04:39 <josema> zakim, aabb is Chris

zakim, aabb is Chris ←

14:04:39 <Zakim> +Chris; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Chris; got it ←

14:07:12 <josema> jose: [about how to encourage people to participate, add content to the wiki]

José Alonso: [about how to encourage people to participate, add content to the wiki] ←

14:07:26 <josema> chris: only got one response so far

Scribe problem: the name 'chris' does not match any of the 26 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Richard Murphy Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown chris: only got one response so far ←

14:07:37 <josema> ... maybe I should go ahead and add content to the wiki

... maybe I should go ahead and add content to the wiki ←

14:07:49 <josema> kevin: it's also the time of the year

Kevin Novak: it's also the time of the year ←

14:08:42 <josema> ... probably stuff like the recent eGov Monitor could help people

... probably stuff like the recent eGov Monitor could help people ←

14:09:28 <josema> ... to be more aware of our work

... to be more aware of our work ←

14:09:54 <josema> -> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=42481&public=1 list of participants

-> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=42481&public=1 list of participants ←

14:10:41 <kevin> ok I am on

Kevin Novak: ok I am on ←

14:10:44 <kjetil> I'm not going to call in, but if I should leave the channel to allow the team to chat in private...

Kjetil Kjernsmo: I'm not going to call in, but if I should leave the channel to allow the team to chat in private... ←

14:12:00 <josema> jose: several agencies represented

José Alonso: several agencies represented ←

14:12:09 <josema> ... also people as IE working for agencies

... also people as IE working for agencies ←

14:12:13 <josema> ... looks good as a start

... looks good as a start ←

14:13:00 <kjetil> ok :-)

Kjetil Kjernsmo: ok :-) ←

14:13:43 <josema> kevin: I'm in touch with more people from agencies around

Kevin Novak: I'm in touch with more people from agencies around ←

14:13:53 <josema> ... trying to find ways to engage them

... trying to find ways to engage them ←

14:15:55 <kevin> http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/19406

Kevin Novak: http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/19406 ←

14:16:08 <kevin> Jose's article in govmonitor

Kevin Novak: Jose's article in govmonitor ←

14:16:15 <josema> ... I'll re-use some of the article to make people aware

... I'll re-use some of the article to make people aware ←

14:17:05 <josema> chris: there are also the web managers roundtable events

Unknown chris: there are also the web managers roundtable events ←

14:17:32 <josema> ... one next week, but clashed with the Group call

... one next week, but clashed with the Group call ←

14:17:52 <josema> kevin: there's also a Facebook Group for the round table

Kevin Novak: there's also a Facebook Group for the round table ←

14:18:13 <josema> chris: we could draft a statement so they could read before the session

Unknown chris: we could draft a statement so they could read before the session ←

14:18:32 <josema> ACTION kevin to draft statement to open Round Table event

ACTION kevin to draft statement to open Round Table event ←

14:18:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2 - Draft statement to open Round Table event [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-2 - Draft statement to open Round Table event [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10]. ←

14:20:51 <josema> chris: any facebook or the like used at W3c?

Unknown chris: any facebook or the like used at W3c? ←

14:21:21 <josema> jose: AFAIR, no, sometimes difficult to choose tools

José Alonso: AFAIR, no, sometimes difficult to choose tools ←

14:21:29 <josema> ... not sure if doable, could find out

... not sure if doable, could find out ←

14:22:34 <josema> kevin: maybe we could even write an article together with Carol (OASIS)

Kevin Novak: maybe we could even write an article together with Carol (OASIS) ←

14:23:50 <josema> jose: what about organize one of those Round Tables later in time?

José Alonso: what about organize one of those Round Tables later in time? ←

14:23:59 <josema> chris: yes, would be useful

Unknown chris: yes, would be useful ←

14:24:13 <josema> kevin: several of the attendants come from gov

Kevin Novak: several of the attendants come from gov ←

14:24:22 <josema> ... some private industry

... some private industry ←

14:24:37 <josema> ... Google, Microsoft sponsors from time to time

... Google, Microsoft sponsors from time to time ←

14:24:49 <josema> ... also some consultancies involved

... also some consultancies involved ←

14:25:09 <josema> kevin: also blogs related to eGov

Kevin Novak: also blogs related to eGov ←

14:25:23 <josema> ... maybe we should watch and comment on those blogs, too

... maybe we should watch and comment on those blogs, too ←

14:26:40 <josema> ... this should be a Group task

... this should be a Group task ←

14:26:49 <josema> [topic was outreach]

[topic was outreach] ←

14:27:24 <josema> TOPIC: engaging Group Members

1. engaging Group Members

14:27:46 <josema> chris: probably difficult time of the year

Unknown chris: probably difficult time of the year ←

14:28:05 <josema> ... maybe starting proposing agenda items

... maybe starting proposing agenda items ←

14:28:21 <josema> ... get info on what is more interesting, what is not

... get info on what is more interesting, what is not ←

14:29:21 <josema> chris: how do you envision the Group's progress in the near future

Unknown chris: how do you envision the Group's progress in the near future? ←

14:29:29 <josema> s/future/future?

14:29:35 <josema> kevin: jose and I talked about how to get the Group together

Kevin Novak: jose and I talked about how to get the Group together ←

14:29:48 <josema> ... not splitting it on TF different calls, etc.

... not splitting it on TF different calls, etc. ←

14:30:13 <josema> ... maybe in the future and if needed

... maybe in the future and if needed ←

14:38:40 <josema> [some talk on StratML and how/if liaise with community]

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[some talk on StratML and how/if liaise with community] ←

14:39:02 <josema> ACTION kevin to get in touch with AIIM

ACTION kevin to get in touch with AIIM ←

14:39:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-3 - Get in touch with AIIM [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-3 - Get in touch with AIIM [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10]. ←

14:40:25 <josema> [too early to decide, needs more review]

[too early to decide, needs more review] ←

14:40:44 <josema> kevin: I encourage you to go ahead and add content to the wiki

Kevin Novak: I encourage you to go ahead and add content to the wiki ←

14:42:37 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Next_Meeting

http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Next_Meeting ←

14:44:31 <josema> [let's put info up in the wiki and have people contributing]

[let's put info up in the wiki and have people contributing] ←

14:45:05 <josema> kevin: I encourage TF coordinators to start and pave the path

Kevin Novak: I encourage TF coordinators to start and pave the path ←

14:45:15 <josema> ... then people will add, comment, etc.

... then people will add, comment, etc. ←

14:51:08 <josema> zakim, code?

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zakim, code? ←

14:51:08 <Zakim> the conference code is 26632 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), josema

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 26632 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), josema ←

14:52:02 <josema> [jose talks about experience traveling and projects, highlights Web guidelines, OS Policies]

[jose talks about experience traveling and projects, highlights Web guidelines, OS Policies] ←

14:52:30 <josema> kevin: we should talk about the specific work of the TFs during the next Group call

Kevin Novak: we should talk about the specific work of the TFs during the next Group call ←

14:53:33 <Zakim> + +34.63.557.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +34.63.557.aacc ←

14:57:49 <josema> RRSAgent, pointer?

RRSAgent, pointer? ←

14:57:49 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-egov-irc#T14-57-49

RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-egov-irc#T14-57-49 ←

14:58:01 <josema> [Oscar joins the call]

[Oscar joins the call] ←

14:58:19 <josema> oscar: new to W3C, probably many people the same

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Unknown oscar: new to W3C, probably many people the same ←

14:58:29 <josema> ... we might need some "W3C training"

... we might need some "W3C training" ←

14:58:57 <josema> ... TF coordinators should dinamyze the Group

... TF coordinators should dinamyze the Group ←

14:59:03 <josema> ... couple ideas:

... couple ideas: ←

14:59:26 <josema> ... think about want we want to see in the use cases

... think about want we want to see in the use cases ←

14:59:36 <josema> ... maybe put a soft deadline

... maybe put a soft deadline ←

14:59:49 <josema> ... 4-6 weeks, see what people say

... 4-6 weeks, see what people say ←

15:00:01 <josema> ... definitely put up use cases days asap and see

... definitely put up use cases days asap and see ←

15:00:17 <josema> ... also a comment:

... also a comment: ←

15:00:48 <josema> ... maybe we should outline how the whole Group process will look like

... maybe we should outline how the whole Group process will look like ←

15:00:53 <josema> ... what after use cases?

... what after use cases? ←

15:01:09 <josema> ... probably this needs explanation about how we'll handle it

... probably this needs explanation about how we'll handle it ←

15:01:46 <josema> [all agree about the need to detail the process]

[all agree about the need to detail the process] ←

15:04:28 <Zakim> -Chris

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Chris ←

15:05:30 <oazanon> zakim, code?

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Unknown oazanon: zakim, code? ←

15:05:30 <Zakim> the conference code is 26632 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), oazanon

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15:07:54 <josema> ACTION kevin to draft outline Group Activity Plan

ACTION kevin to draft outline Group Activity Plan ←

15:07:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-4 - Draft outline Group Activity Plan [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-4 - Draft outline Group Activity Plan [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10]. ←

15:08:12 <Zakim> -kevin

Zakim IRC Bot: -kevin ←

15:08:20 <Zakim> -Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←

15:08:27 <josema> RRSAgent, list attendees

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15:08:27 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'list attendees', josema.  Try /msg RRSAgent help

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15:08:28 <Zakim> -Oscar

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Oscar ←

15:08:30 <Zakim> Team_(egovtf)14:00Z has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: Team_(egovtf)14:00Z has ended ←

15:08:31 <Zakim> Attendees were Josema, +1.202.731.aaaa, kevin, +1.202.488.aabb, Chris, +34.63.557.aacc, Oscar

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Josema, +1.202.731.aaaa, kevin, +1.202.488.aabb, Chris, +34.63.557.aacc, Oscar ←

15:08:36 <josema> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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15:08:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-egov-minutes.html josema

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15:09:23 <josema> Zakim, list attendees

Zakim, list attendees ←

15:09:23 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is

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15:46:46 <josema> RRSAgent, make minutes

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15:51:00 <josema> RRSAgent, stop

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