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13:59:15 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
13:59:16 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
13:59:16 <trackbot> Date: 03 July 2008
13:59:16 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see Team_(egovtf)14:00Z scheduled to start in 1 minute
13:59:54 <josema> josema has changed the topic to: ongoing TF coordinators + Chairs call
14:00:12 <josema> Meeting: eGov IG TF coordinators + Chairs call
14:00:23 <josema> Agenda: no specific agenda
14:00:47 <josema> scribe: josema
14:01:12 <josema> chair: Kevin
14:01:24 <Zakim> Team_(egovtf)14:00Z has now started
14:01:25 <Zakim> +Josema
14:02:41 <Zakim> + +1.202.731.aaaa
14:03:53 <josema> zakim, aaaa is kevin
14:03:54 <Zakim> +kevin; got it
14:04:12 <Zakim> + +1.202.488.aabb
14:04:39 <josema> zakim, aabb is Chris
14:04:39 <Zakim> +Chris; got it
14:07:12 <josema> jose: [about how to encourage people to participate, add content to the wiki]
14:07:26 <josema> chris: only got one response so far
14:07:37 <josema> ... maybe I should go ahead and add content to the wiki
14:07:49 <josema> kevin: it's also the time of the year
14:08:42 <josema> ... probably stuff like the recent eGov Monitor could help people
14:09:28 <josema> ... to be more aware of our work
14:09:40 <chris> chris has joined #egov
14:09:54 <josema> -> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=42481&public=1 list of participants
14:10:33 <kevin> kevin has joined #egov
14:10:41 <kevin> ok I am on
14:10:44 <kjetil> I'm not going to call in, but if I should leave the channel to allow the team to chat in private...
14:12:00 <josema> jose: several agencies represented
14:12:09 <josema> ... also people as IE working for agencies
14:12:13 <josema> ... looks good as a start
14:13:00 <kjetil> ok :-)
14:13:43 <josema> kevin: I'm in touch with more people from agencies around
14:13:53 <josema> ... trying to find ways to engage them
14:15:55 <kevin> http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/19406
14:16:08 <kevin> Jose's article in govmonitor
14:16:15 <josema> ... I'll re-use some of the article to make people aware
14:17:05 <josema> chris: there are also the web managers roundtable events
14:17:32 <josema> ... one next week, but clashed with the Group call
14:17:52 <josema> kevin: there's also a Facebook Group for the round table
14:18:13 <josema> chris: we could draft a statement so they could read before the session
14:18:32 <josema> ACTION kevin to draft statement to open Round Table event
14:18:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2 - Draft statement to open Round Table event [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10].
14:20:51 <josema> chris: any facebook or the like used at W3c?
14:21:21 <josema> jose: AFAIR, no, sometimes difficult to choose tools
14:21:29 <josema> ... not sure if doable, could find out
14:22:34 <josema> kevin: maybe we could even write an article together with Carol (OASIS)
14:23:50 <josema> jose: what about organize one of those Round Tables later in time?
14:23:59 <josema> chris: yes, would be useful
14:24:13 <josema> kevin: several of the attendants come from gov
14:24:22 <josema> ... some private industry
14:24:37 <josema> ... Google, Microsoft sponsors from time to time
14:24:49 <josema> ... also some consultancies involved
14:25:09 <josema> kevin: also blogs related to eGov
14:25:23 <josema> ... maybe we should watch and comment on those blogs, too
14:26:40 <josema> ... this should be a Group task
14:26:49 <josema> [topic was outreach]
14:27:24 <josema> TOPIC: engaging Group Members
14:27:46 <josema> chris: probably difficult time of the year
14:28:05 <josema> ... maybe starting proposing agenda items
14:28:21 <josema> ... get info on what is more interesting, what is not
14:29:21 <josema> chris: how do you envision the Group's progress in the near future
14:29:29 <josema> s/future/future?
14:29:35 <josema> kevin: jose and I talked about how to get the Group together
14:29:48 <josema> ... not splitting it on TF different calls, etc.
14:30:13 <josema> ... maybe in the future and if needed
14:38:40 <josema> [some talk on StratML and how/if liaise with community]
14:39:02 <josema> ACTION kevin to get in touch with AIIM
14:39:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-3 - Get in touch with AIIM [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10].
14:40:25 <josema> [too early to decide, needs more review]
14:40:44 <josema> kevin: I encourage you to go ahead and add content to the wiki
14:42:37 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Next_Meeting
14:44:31 <josema> [let's put info up in the wiki and have people contributing]
14:45:05 <josema> kevin: I encourage TF coordinators to start and pave the path
14:45:15 <josema> ... then people will add, comment, etc.
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14:51:08 <josema> zakim, code?
14:51:08 <Zakim> the conference code is 26632 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), josema
14:52:02 <josema> [jose talks about experience traveling and projects, highlights Web guidelines, OS Policies]
14:52:30 <josema> kevin: we should talk about the specific work of the TFs during the next Group call
14:53:33 <Zakim> + +34.63.557.aacc
14:57:49 <josema> RRSAgent, pointer?
14:57:49 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-egov-irc#T14-57-49
14:58:01 <josema> [Oscar joins the call]
14:58:19 <josema> oscar: new to W3C, probably many people the same
14:58:29 <josema> ... we might need some "W3C training"
14:58:57 <josema> ... TF coordinators should dinamyze the Group
14:59:03 <josema> ... couple ideas:
14:59:26 <josema> ... think about want we want to see in the use cases
14:59:36 <josema> ... maybe put a soft deadline
14:59:49 <josema> ... 4-6 weeks, see what people say
15:00:01 <josema> ... definitely put up use cases days asap and see
15:00:17 <josema> ... also a comment:
15:00:48 <josema> ... maybe we should outline how the whole Group process will look like
15:00:53 <josema> ... what after use cases?
15:01:09 <josema> ... probably this needs explanation about how we'll handle it
15:01:46 <josema> [all agree about the need to detail the process]
15:04:28 <Zakim> -Chris
15:05:30 <oazanon> zakim, code?
15:05:30 <Zakim> the conference code is 26632 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), oazanon
15:07:54 <josema> ACTION kevin to draft outline Group Activity Plan
15:07:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-4 - Draft outline Group Activity Plan [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10].
15:08:12 <Zakim> -kevin
15:08:20 <Zakim> -Josema
15:08:27 <josema> RRSAgent, list attendees
15:08:27 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'list attendees', josema.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:08:28 <Zakim> -Oscar
15:08:30 <Zakim> Team_(egovtf)14:00Z has ended
15:08:31 <Zakim> Attendees were Josema, +1.202.731.aaaa, kevin, +1.202.488.aabb, Chris, +34.63.557.aacc, Oscar
15:08:36 <josema> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:08:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-egov-minutes.html josema
15:09:23 <josema> Zakim, list attendees
15:09:23 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is
15:46:46 <josema> RRSAgent, make minutes
15:46:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-egov-minutes.html josema
15:51:00 <josema> RRSAgent, stop