IRC log of egov on 2008-07-03

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Zakim, this will be EGOV

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Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference

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Date: 03 July 2008

13:59:16 [Zakim]

ok, trackbot; I see Team_(egovtf)14:00Z scheduled to start in 1 minute

13:59:54 [josema]

josema has changed the topic to: ongoing TF coordinators + Chairs call

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Meeting: eGov IG TF coordinators + Chairs call

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Agenda: no specific agenda

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scribe: josema

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chair: Kevin

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Team_(egovtf)14:00Z has now started

14:01:25 [Zakim]

+Josema

14:02:41 [Zakim]

+ +1.202.731.aaaa

14:03:53 [josema]

zakim, aaaa is kevin

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+kevin; got it

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+ +1.202.488.aabb

14:04:39 [josema]

zakim, aabb is Chris

14:04:39 [Zakim]

+Chris; got it

14:07:12 [josema]

jose: [about how to encourage people to participate, add content to the wiki]

14:07:26 [josema]

chris: only got one response so far

14:07:37 [josema]

... maybe I should go ahead and add content to the wiki

14:07:49 [josema]

kevin: it's also the time of the year

14:08:42 [josema]

... probably stuff like the recent eGov Monitor could help people

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... to be more aware of our work

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-> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=42481&public=1 list of participants

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14:10:41 [kevin]

ok I am on

14:10:44 [kjetil]

I'm not going to call in, but if I should leave the channel to allow the team to chat in private...

14:12:00 [josema]

jose: several agencies represented

14:12:09 [josema]

... also people as IE working for agencies

14:12:13 [josema]

... looks good as a start

14:13:00 [kjetil]

ok :-)

14:13:43 [josema]

kevin: I'm in touch with more people from agencies around

14:13:53 [josema]

... trying to find ways to engage them

14:15:55 [kevin]

http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/19406

14:16:08 [kevin]

Jose's article in govmonitor

14:16:15 [josema]

... I'll re-use some of the article to make people aware

14:17:05 [josema]

chris: there are also the web managers roundtable events

14:17:32 [josema]

... one next week, but clashed with the Group call

14:17:52 [josema]

kevin: there's also a Facebook Group for the round table

14:18:13 [josema]

chris: we could draft a statement so they could read before the session

14:18:32 [josema]

ACTION kevin to draft statement to open Round Table event

14:18:32 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-2 - Draft statement to open Round Table event [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10].

14:20:51 [josema]

chris: any facebook or the like used at W3c?

14:21:21 [josema]

jose: AFAIR, no, sometimes difficult to choose tools

14:21:29 [josema]

... not sure if doable, could find out

14:22:34 [josema]

kevin: maybe we could even write an article together with Carol (OASIS)

14:23:50 [josema]

jose: what about organize one of those Round Tables later in time?

14:23:59 [josema]

chris: yes, would be useful

14:24:13 [josema]

kevin: several of the attendants come from gov

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... some private industry

14:24:37 [josema]

... Google, Microsoft sponsors from time to time

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... also some consultancies involved

14:25:09 [josema]

kevin: also blogs related to eGov

14:25:23 [josema]

... maybe we should watch and comment on those blogs, too

14:26:40 [josema]

... this should be a Group task

14:26:49 [josema]

[topic was outreach]

14:27:24 [josema]

TOPIC: engaging Group Members

14:27:46 [josema]

chris: probably difficult time of the year

14:28:05 [josema]

... maybe starting proposing agenda items

14:28:21 [josema]

... get info on what is more interesting, what is not

14:29:21 [josema]

chris: how do you envision the Group's progress in the near future

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s/future/future?

14:29:35 [josema]

kevin: jose and I talked about how to get the Group together

14:29:48 [josema]

... not splitting it on TF different calls, etc.

14:30:13 [josema]

... maybe in the future and if needed

14:38:40 [josema]

[some talk on StratML and how/if liaise with community]

14:39:02 [josema]

ACTION kevin to get in touch with AIIM

14:39:02 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-3 - Get in touch with AIIM [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10].

14:40:25 [josema]

[too early to decide, needs more review]

14:40:44 [josema]

kevin: I encourage you to go ahead and add content to the wiki

14:42:37 [josema]

http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Next_Meeting

14:44:31 [josema]

[let's put info up in the wiki and have people contributing]

14:45:05 [josema]

kevin: I encourage TF coordinators to start and pave the path

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... then people will add, comment, etc.

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zakim, code?

14:51:08 [Zakim]

the conference code is 26632 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), josema

14:52:02 [josema]

[jose talks about experience traveling and projects, highlights Web guidelines, OS Policies]

14:52:30 [josema]

kevin: we should talk about the specific work of the TFs during the next Group call

14:53:33 [Zakim]

+ +34.63.557.aacc

14:57:49 [josema]

RRSAgent, pointer?

14:57:49 [RRSAgent]

See http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-egov-irc#T14-57-49

14:58:01 [josema]

[Oscar joins the call]

14:58:19 [josema]

oscar: new to W3C, probably many people the same

14:58:29 [josema]

... we might need some "W3C training"

14:58:57 [josema]

... TF coordinators should dinamyze the Group

14:59:03 [josema]

... couple ideas:

14:59:26 [josema]

... think about want we want to see in the use cases

14:59:36 [josema]

... maybe put a soft deadline

14:59:49 [josema]

... 4-6 weeks, see what people say

15:00:01 [josema]

... definitely put up use cases days asap and see

15:00:17 [josema]

... also a comment:

15:00:48 [josema]

... maybe we should outline how the whole Group process will look like

15:00:53 [josema]

... what after use cases?

15:01:09 [josema]

... probably this needs explanation about how we'll handle it

15:01:46 [josema]

[all agree about the need to detail the process]

15:04:28 [Zakim]

-Chris

15:05:30 [oazanon]

zakim, code?

15:05:30 [Zakim]

the conference code is 26632 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), oazanon

15:07:54 [josema]

ACTION kevin to draft outline Group Activity Plan

15:07:54 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-4 - Draft outline Group Activity Plan [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-07-10].

15:08:12 [Zakim]

-kevin

15:08:20 [Zakim]

-Josema

15:08:27 [josema]

RRSAgent, list attendees

15:08:27 [RRSAgent]

I'm logging. I don't understand 'list attendees', josema. Try /msg RRSAgent help

15:08:28 [Zakim]

-Oscar

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Team_(egovtf)14:00Z has ended

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Attendees were Josema, +1.202.731.aaaa, kevin, +1.202.488.aabb, Chris, +34.63.557.aacc, Oscar

15:08:36 [josema]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-egov-minutes.html josema

15:09:23 [josema]

Zakim, list attendees

15:09:23 [Zakim]

sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is

15:46:46 [josema]

RRSAgent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-egov-minutes.html josema

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RRSAgent, stop