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13:55:19 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
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13:55:19 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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13:55:20 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:55:21 <trackbot> Date: 23 January 2015
13:55:48 <deirdrelee> rrsagent, make logs public
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13:55:48 <deirdrelee> Guest: Newton Calegari
13:58:00 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?
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13:58:00 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has not yet started, hadleybeeman
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13:58:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see AdrianoC, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, BernadetteLoscio, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, sandro, trackbot
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13:58:07 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started
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13:58:13 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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13:58:22 <deirdrelee> zakim, [ipcaller] is me
Deirdre Lee: zakim, [ipcaller] is me ←
13:58:22 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it ←
13:59:58 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:00:03 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
14:00:03 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←
14:00:13 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←
14:00:27 <Zakim> +annette_g
Zakim IRC Bot: +annette_g ←
14:01:16 <Zakim> +ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan ←
14:01:32 <Zakim> +??P21
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P21 ←
14:01:47 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P21 is me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P21 is me ←
14:01:47 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it
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14:01:52 <Zakim> + +1.609.557.aaaa
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14:02:13 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
14:02:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, antoine, HadleyBeeman, annette_g, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, +1.609.557.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, antoine, HadleyBeeman, annette_g, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, +1.609.557.aaaa ←
14:02:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see Eric_Kauz, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, ericstephan, annette_g, antoine, AdrianoC, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, BernadetteLoscio, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, sandro,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Eric_Kauz, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, ericstephan, annette_g, antoine, AdrianoC, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, BernadetteLoscio, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, sandro, ←
14:02:16 <Zakim> ... trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot ←
14:02:29 <Eric_Kauz> zakim, aaaa is me
Eric Kauz: zakim, aaaa is me ←
14:02:29 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Eric_Kauz; got it ←
14:02:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:02:39 <phila> zakim, [ is me
Phil Archer: zakim, [ is me ←
14:02:39 <Zakim> +phila; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it ←
14:02:40 <Caroline_> newton and I will call in 1min
Caroline Burle: newton and I will call in 1min ←
14:03:06 <Zakim> +??P29
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P29 ←
14:03:38 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
14:03:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, antoine, HadleyBeeman, annette_g, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, Eric_Kauz, phila, ??P29
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, antoine, HadleyBeeman, annette_g, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, Eric_Kauz, phila, ??P29 ←
14:03:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see gatemezi, Eric_Kauz, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, ericstephan, annette_g, antoine, AdrianoC, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, BernadetteLoscio, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gatemezi, Eric_Kauz, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, ericstephan, annette_g, antoine, AdrianoC, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, BernadetteLoscio, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, ←
14:03:40 <Zakim> ... sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... sandro, trackbot ←
14:03:47 <AdrianoC> zakim, ??P29 is AdrianoC
Adriano Pereira: zakim, ??P29 is AdrianoC ←
14:03:47 <Zakim> +AdrianoC; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AdrianoC; got it ←
14:04:00 <phila> scribe: phila
(Scribe set to Phil Archer)
14:04:05 <phila> scribeNick: phila
14:04:14 <phila> chair: Deirdre
14:04:25 <phila> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150123
14:04:39 <phila> zakim, who is noisy?
zakim, who is noisy? ←
14:04:45 <Zakim> +riccardoAlbertoni
Zakim IRC Bot: +riccardoAlbertoni ←
14:04:50 <Zakim> phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (32%), MTCarrasco (21%)
Zakim IRC Bot: phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (32%), MTCarrasco (21%) ←
14:05:02 <riccardoAlbertoni> hi all
Riccardo Albertoni: hi all ←
14:05:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:05:16 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller is me
Carlos Laufer: Zakim, IPcaller is me ←
14:05:16 <Zakim> +laufer; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it ←
14:05:27 <laufer> Zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: Zakim, mute me ←
14:05:28 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
14:05:37 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
14:05:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, antoine, HadleyBeeman, annette_g, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, Eric_Kauz, phila, AdrianoC, riccardoAlbertoni, laufer (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, antoine, HadleyBeeman, annette_g, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, Eric_Kauz, phila, AdrianoC, riccardoAlbertoni, laufer (muted) ←
14:05:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see laufer, newton, riccardoAlbertoni, gatemezi, Eric_Kauz, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, ericstephan, annette_g, antoine, AdrianoC, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see laufer, newton, riccardoAlbertoni, gatemezi, Eric_Kauz, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, ericstephan, annette_g, antoine, AdrianoC, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, ←
14:05:40 <Zakim> ... BernadetteLoscio, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... BernadetteLoscio, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, sandro, trackbot ←
14:06:01 <laufer> \me hi deirdre
Carlos Laufer: \me hi deirdre ←
14:06:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:06:07 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio ←
14:06:07 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
14:06:22 <Zakim> +yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso ←
14:06:30 <Caroline_> Zakim, yaso is Caroline_
Caroline Burle: Zakim, yaso is Caroline_ ←
14:06:30 <Zakim> +Caroline_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline_; got it ←
14:06:43 <newton> Zakim, Caroline_ has newton
Newton Calegari: Zakim, Caroline_ has newton ←
14:06:43 <Zakim> +newton; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +newton; got it ←
14:07:00 <phila> deirdrelee: Opens the meeteing
Deirdre Lee: Opens the meeteing ←
14:07:12 <phila> ... we have a couple of decisions to make today
... we have a couple of decisions to make today ←
14:07:25 <phila> ... whether we publish FPWD of the BP and the next WD of the UCR
... whether we publish FPWD of the BP and the next WD of the UCR ←
14:07:40 <phila> ... acknowledge the huge amount of work being done this week
... acknowledge the huge amount of work being done this week ←
14:07:40 <hadleybeeman> +1 to deirdrelee. It's been a busy couple of weeks. Well done us! :)
Hadley Beeman: +1 to deirdrelee. It's been a busy couple of weeks. Well done us! :) ←
14:07:46 <phila> ... as a result we have a lot of content in the doc
... as a result we have a lot of content in the doc ←
14:08:09 <phila> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-01-16
PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-01-16 ←
14:08:13 <hadleybeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:08:21 <Caroline_> +1
Caroline Burle: +1 ←
14:08:22 <BernadetteLoscio> 1
14:08:24 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
14:08:24 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
14:08:25 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 ←
14:08:25 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
14:08:27 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
14:08:29 <annette_g> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
14:08:31 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
14:08:31 <MTCarrasco> +1
14:08:34 <phila> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-01-16
RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-01-16 ←
14:08:41 <gatemezi> +0 was absent
Ghislain Atemezing: +0 was absent ←
14:08:45 <AdrianoC> +1
Adriano Pereira: +1 ←
14:08:53 <phila> Topic: BP Document
14:09:17 <phila> s/BP Document/UCR Document/
14:09:32 <phila> deirdrelee: Doc looks pretty complete. Now very few open issues. Most have been resolved
Deirdre Lee: Doc looks pretty complete. Now very few open issues. Most have been resolved ←
14:09:50 <phila> ... some we may need to reopen some again, should some reqs be refined
... some we may need to reopen some again, should some reqs be refined ←
14:10:10 <phila> ... strong set of reqs. Each req leads to multiple UCs and vice versa
... strong set of reqs. Each req leads to multiple UCs and vice versa ←
14:10:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:10:29 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, IPcaller is me ←
14:10:29 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
14:10:39 <phila> -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html the UCR doc
-> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html the UCR doc ←
14:10:47 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:10:54 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
14:10:57 <phila> deirdrelee: Any comments on the UCR doc
Deirdre Lee: Any comments on the UCR doc ←
14:11:00 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
Carlos Iglesias: zakim, [IPcaller] is me ←
14:11:00 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it ←
14:11:06 <annette_g> it's *first* PWD, no?
Annette Greiner: it's *first* PWD, no? ←
14:11:11 <phila> deirdrelee: And so to the BP doc
Deirdre Lee: And so to the BP doc ←
14:11:17 <phila> Topic: The BP Doc
14:11:43 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We have had a lot of discssions about the BP doc this week including some major changes in the vocab section, metadaat seection etc.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We have had a lot of discssions about the BP doc this week including some major changes in the vocab section, metadaat seection etc. ←
14:11:48 <phila> ... some improvements etc.
... some improvements etc. ←
14:11:54 <ericstephan> @annette_g yes
Eric Stephan: @annette_g yes ←
14:11:58 <phila> ... clear that we havea some terminological issues to discuss and agree
... clear that we havea some terminological issues to discuss and agree ←
14:12:22 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: And we need to go deeper on some discussions, that's clear
Bernadette Farias Loscio: And we need to go deeper on some discussions, that's clear ←
14:12:36 <ericstephan> sorry I thought the question was related to BP
Eric Stephan: sorry I thought the question was related to BP ←
14:12:43 <deirdrelee> BP doc http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html
Deirdre Lee: BP doc http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html ←
14:12:44 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We have opened several issues, not alll that can be solved immediately
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We have opened several issues, not alll that can be solved immediately ←
14:13:20 <gatemezi> Zakim, who is speaking?
Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:13:26 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I hope everyone's happy now?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I hope everyone's happy now? ←
14:13:30 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:13:32 <Zakim> gatemezi, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: gatemezi, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
14:13:46 <MakxDekkers> zakim, iocaller is me
Makx Dekkers: zakim, iocaller is me ←
14:13:46 <Zakim> sorry, MakxDekkers, I do not recognize a party named 'iocaller'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, MakxDekkers, I do not recognize a party named 'iocaller' ←
14:13:54 <MakxDekkers> zakim, ipcaller is me
Makx Dekkers: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
14:13:54 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MakxDekkers; got it ←
14:13:59 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I;m happy that we can have substantive discussions now
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I'm happy that we can have substantive discussions now ←
14:14:06 <phila> s/I;m/I'm/
14:14:21 <phila> Caroline_: I think you said it all so maybe we should talk about Phil's proposal
Caroline Burle: I think you said it all so maybe we should talk about Phil's proposal ←
14:14:31 <phila> Caroline_: We are very happy with the collaborative work
Caroline Burle: We are very happy with the collaborative work ←
14:14:39 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is making noise?
Caroline Burle: Zakim, who is making noise? ←
14:14:50 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (15%), Caroline_ (64%), MakxDekkers (14%)
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (15%), Caroline_ (64%), MakxDekkers (14%) ←
14:15:14 <MakxDekkers> zakim, mute me
Makx Dekkers: zakim, mute me ←
14:15:14 <Zakim> MakxDekkers should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MakxDekkers should now be muted ←
14:15:40 <phila> Caroline_: We haven't had time to discuss Phil's proposal by e-mail yet. Not sure whether we can classify them all this meeting
Caroline Burle: We haven't had time to discuss Phil's proposal by e-mail yet. Not sure whether we can classify them all this meeting ←
14:15:55 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I have a question. How stable should the document be to go into FPWD?
Joao Almeida: I have a question. How stable should the document be to go into FPWD? ←
14:16:09 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: IMO we have a lot already and I know that we still have open issues and conflicting issues but we made a lot of progress
Bernadette Farias Loscio: IMO we have a lot already and I know that we still have open issues and conflicting issues but we made a lot of progress ←
14:16:20 <phila> ... maybe an external view will help us solve inernal conflicts
... maybe an external view will help us solve inernal conflicts ←
14:16:23 <ericstephan> +1 Bernadette
Eric Stephan: +1 Bernadette ←
14:16:26 <laufer> +1 to Bernadette
Carlos Laufer: +1 to Bernadette ←
14:16:32 <Caroline_> +1 to BernadetteLoscio
Caroline Burle: +1 to BernadetteLoscio ←
14:16:35 <AdrianoC> +1 Bernadette
Adriano Pereira: +1 Bernadette ←
14:16:35 <annette_g> +1 to Joao Paulo's question
Annette Greiner: +1 to Joao Paulo's question ←
14:16:59 <phila> deirdrelee: Which relates to what I wanted to ask... are things not resolved because we've run out of time or because we need external input?
Deirdre Lee: Which relates to what I wanted to ask... are things not resolved because we've run out of time or because we need external input? ←
14:17:09 <Caroline_> Zakim, Caroline_ has yaso
Caroline Burle: Zakim, Caroline_ has yaso ←
14:17:09 <Zakim> +yaso; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso; got it ←
14:17:23 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: For some issues (most) we need more time because we need to discuss. I don't think the editors can decide by themseleves
Bernadette Farias Loscio: For some issues (most) we need more time because we need to discuss. I don't think the editors can decide by themseleves ←
14:17:23 <gatemezi> +0 to Bernadette. Not sure external view can necessary help to have consensus in some points
Ghislain Atemezing: +0 to Bernadette. Not sure external view can necessary help to have consensus in some points ←
14:17:42 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I think the terminological issues we have is important. We have differnet opinions
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think the terminological issues we have is important. We have differnet opinions ←
14:17:52 <gatemezi> +1 to deirdrelee question
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to deirdrelee question ←
14:17:57 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We can agree but we'll need more time
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We can agree but we'll need more time ←
14:18:09 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We had a long discussion about the audience and then we agreed
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We had a long discussion about the audience and then we agreed ←
14:18:11 <newton> Zakim, Caroline_ has vagner
Newton Calegari: Zakim, Caroline_ has vagner ←
14:18:11 <Zakim> +vagner; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +vagner; got it ←
14:18:14 <hadleybeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
14:18:28 <phila> deirdrelee: So I guess we should discuss this a little more
Deirdre Lee: So I guess we should discuss this a little more ←
14:18:30 <phila> ack hadleybeeman
ack hadleybeeman ←
14:18:54 <phila> hadleybeeman: My question is... we don't have that much time as a WG to talk. An hour a week isn't a lot.
Hadley Beeman: My question is... we don't have that much time as a WG to talk. An hour a week isn't a lot. ←
14:19:07 <phila> ... is it possible to do some of this dicussion by e-mail?
... is it possible to do some of this dicussion by e-mail? ←
14:19:13 <phila> ... can we have a thread per issue?
... can we have a thread per issue? ←
14:19:15 <CarlosIglesias> I think it is not only possible but highly desirable
Carlos Iglesias: I think it is not only possible but highly desirable ←
14:19:16 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
14:19:25 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: how can we have a WG conversation
Hadley Beeman: how can we have a WG conversation ←
14:19:26 <CarlosIglesias> no other way to address such amount of issues
Carlos Iglesias: no other way to address such amount of issues ←
14:19:48 <phila> s/BernadetteLoscio:/Hadley:/
14:19:51 <phila> ack BernadetteLoscio
ack BernadetteLoscio ←
14:20:13 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I agree Hadley, we need to discuss this by mail during ther week and Friday is just to solve things that aren't clear
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I agree Hadley, we need to discuss this by mail during ther week and Friday is just to solve things that aren't clear ←
14:20:24 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: What I think is important is to keep the rhythm
Bernadette Farias Loscio: What I think is important is to keep the rhythm ←
14:20:26 <Caroline_> +1 to hadleybeeman
Caroline Burle: +1 to hadleybeeman ←
14:21:13 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: It's good that finally we're having detailed discussions and if we continue then we can make progress
Bernadette Farias Loscio: It's good that finally we're having detailed discussions and if we continue then we can make progress ←
14:21:15 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
14:21:40 <phila> deirdrelee: In terms of the terminology - we've discussed that a lot and we need to do so some more.
Deirdre Lee: In terms of the terminology - we've discussed that a lot and we need to do so some more. ←
14:21:42 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
14:21:54 <phila> deirdrelee: We can create a wiki page on that topic
Deirdre Lee: We can create a wiki page on that topic ←
14:21:56 <phila> q+
q+ ←
14:22:19 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I'm going to create the wiki page to start the process of discussing...
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I'm going to create the wiki page to start the process of discussing... ←
14:22:35 <ericstephan> Bernadette sounds good about starting wiki page for terminology
Eric Stephan: Bernadette sounds good about starting wiki page for terminology ←
14:22:50 <phila> action: bernadette to create a wiki page to begin a glossary of terminology
ACTION: bernadette to create a wiki page to begin a glossary of terminology ←
14:22:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-136 - Create a wiki page to begin a glossary of terminology [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2015-01-30].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-136 - Create a wiki page to begin a glossary of terminology [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2015-01-30]. ←
14:23:03 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: TNhis might go to GH later
Bernadette Farias Loscio: This might go to GH later ←
14:23:09 <annette_g> *suggests one page per term
Annette Greiner: *suggests one page per term ←
14:23:20 <newton> s/TNhis/This/g
14:23:25 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Everyone can contribute. We might have multiple definitions to choose from
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Everyone can contribute. We might have multiple definitions to choose from ←
14:23:35 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I think we also need a good discussion on the whole "technological bias" issue.
Joao Almeida: I think we also need a good discussion on the whole "technological bias" issue. ←
14:23:40 <phila> ... we want to use existing definitions, not crearte new ones
... we want to use existing definitions, not create new ones ←
14:23:43 <phila> ack me
ack me ←
14:23:59 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 for using the existing definition as much as possible
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 for using the existing definition as much as possible ←
14:24:27 <hadleybeeman> +1 to phila's request
Hadley Beeman: +1 to phila's request ←
14:24:34 <phila> phila: to request that bernadette gives us a guided tour of the doc
Phil Archer: to request that bernadette gives us a guided tour of the doc ←
14:24:38 <gatemezi> s/crearte/create
14:24:44 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We're looking at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We're looking at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html ←
14:24:53 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: The intro is stable, no comments on this one
Bernadette Farias Loscio: The intro is stable, no comments on this one ←
14:25:07 <phila> ... new para to talk about the relationship with the LD-BP
... new para to talk about the relationship with the LD-BP ←
14:25:28 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We had a lot of discussion about the audeince, now we have the final version
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We had a lot of discussion about the audeince, now we have the final version ←
14:25:32 <phila> ... now looks OK
... now looks OK ←
14:25:40 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Scope was decided at TPAC
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Scope was decided at TPAC ←
14:25:56 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Context - the DW challenges and life cycle
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Context - the DW challenges and life cycle ←
14:26:17 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: The challenges can probably be improved, they're probably too informal
Bernadette Farias Loscio: The challenges can probably be improved, they're probably too informal ←
14:26:25 <phila> ... but they make reference to the UCR
... but they make reference to the UCR ←
14:26:52 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Challenges lead to requirements
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Challenges lead to requirements ←
14:27:04 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: The life cycle is based on an existing life cycle
Bernadette Farias Loscio: The life cycle is based on an existing life cycle ←
14:27:16 <phila> ... our initial idea was to organise the BP accoridng to the life cycle
... our initial idea was to organise the BP accoridng to the life cycle ←
14:27:40 <phila> ... but it turned out not to work out so we haven't stuck to that but we think the LC is interesting as it gives context
... but it turned out not to work out so we haven't stuck to that but we think the LC is interesting as it gives context ←
14:27:51 <phila> ... maybe later we can try to associate each BP to a phase of the LC
... maybe later we can try to associate each BP to a phase of the LC ←
14:27:59 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: There is an open issue for this
Bernadette Farias Loscio: There is an open issue for this ←
14:28:03 <yaso> q?
Yaso Córdova: q? ←
14:28:27 <phila> ... I think Annette wasn't too happy with the inclusion of the LC and we need to discuss the definitions within it.
... I think Annette wasn't too happy with the inclusion of the LC and we need to discuss the definitions within it. ←
14:28:32 <phila> ack BernadetteLoscio
ack BernadetteLoscio ←
14:28:39 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Then we have the template
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Then we have the template ←
14:28:47 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> here there is also overlap with GLD BP which was not accounted for
Joao Almeida: here there is also overlap with GLD BP which was not accounted for ←
14:28:51 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: The template was proposed at TPAC
Bernadette Farias Loscio: The template was proposed at TPAC ←
14:29:18 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> (the lifecycle in DWBP x process in GLD BP)
Joao Almeida: (the lifecycle in DWBP x process in GLD BP) ←
14:29:46 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I don't think we'll change the template much although Makx's commetn about why something is a BP can be added bu the template itself is prob stable
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I don't think we'll change the template much although Makx's commetn about why something is a BP can be added bu the template itself is prob stable ←
14:30:02 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: The summary and the numbers are generated automatically
Bernadette Farias Loscio: The summary and the numbers are generated automatically ←
14:30:11 <phila> ... but this is not a stable version and numbers change
... but this is not a stable version and numbers change ←
14:30:23 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> one question: the template currently says "Possible Approach to Implementation". Should it be possible approaches (in the plural)?
Joao Almeida: one question: the template currently says "Possible Approach to Implementation". Should it be possible approaches (in the plural)? ←
14:30:25 <phila> ... so in mails we have some problems of identifiers
... so in mails we have some problems of identifiers ←
14:30:32 <phila> ... but this won't be a problem when we stablise
... but this won't be a problem when we stablise ←
14:30:43 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: The BPs are divided according to the main challenges
Bernadette Farias Loscio: The BPs are divided according to the main challenges ←
14:30:46 <gatemezi> a/commetn/comment
Ghislain Atemezing: a/commetn/comment ←
14:31:01 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: There are some challenges that are not here, e.g. data enrichment
Bernadette Farias Loscio: There are some challenges that are not here, e.g. data enrichment ←
14:31:17 <phila> ... the BPs are for data publishers
... the BPs are for data publishers ←
14:31:30 <phila> ... they'll use thre BPs to improve relationship with users
... they'll use thre BPs to improve relationship with users ←
14:31:44 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: First set is the metadata section. There are 6 BPs here
Bernadette Farias Loscio: First set is the metadata section. There are 6 BPs here ←
14:31:49 <phila> ... lots of discussion on this
... lots of discussion on this ←
14:32:04 <phila> ... there were an intersection with the data vocab section.
... there were an intersection with the data vocab section. ←
14:32:19 <phila> ... it's also not clear on terminilogy - metadata vs. vocabulary
... it's also not clear on terminilogy - metadata vs. vocabulary ←
14:32:39 <phila> ... and we have a new proposal for organisation but I think for now we should keep it like this
... and we have a new proposal for organisation but I think for now we should keep it like this ←
14:32:54 <phila> ... for now it should dtay like this but this is one of the sections that generated a lot of discussion
... for now it should dtay like this but this is one of the sections that generated a lot of discussion ←
14:33:18 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Another issue is related to the technological bias - we should be more neutral
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Another issue is related to the technological bias - we should be more neutral ←
14:33:41 <phila> ... so I think in the metadata and vocab section there's lots of talk about Linked Data and vocabs related to that
... so I think in the metadata and vocab section there's lots of talk about Linked Data and vocabs related to that ←
14:33:46 <phila> ... this needs more discussion
... this needs more discussion ←
14:33:49 <yaso> q?
Yaso Córdova: q? ←
14:34:00 <phila> ... but the metadata section is very important
... but the metadata section is very important ←
14:34:06 <phila> ... but more work is needed
... but more work is needed ←
14:34:15 <gatemezi> Maybe in the intro section, group BPs by sections, like metadata section contains 6 BPs which are BPX, BPY, etc..?
Ghislain Atemezing: Maybe in the intro section, group BPs by sections, like metadata section contains 6 BPs which are BPX, BPY, etc..? ←
14:34:15 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: The data identification so far as one BP
Bernadette Farias Loscio: The data identification so far as one BP ←
14:34:24 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We also had some discussion about this BP
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We also had some discussion about this BP ←
14:34:50 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I think in future we might have more BPs in this section but for now we should leave it as is for now
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think in future we might have more BPs in this section but for now we should leave it as is for now ←
14:35:09 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: The data formats section... we had some discussion but it feels more stable
Bernadette Farias Loscio: The data formats section... we had some discussion but it feels more stable ←
14:35:13 <phila> ... we have 3 BPs
... we have 3 BPs ←
14:35:19 <phila> ... we had discussion but not a lot
... we had discussion but not a lot ←
14:35:41 <phila> ... but terminology came up agaian (format cf. serialisation)
... but terminology came up agaian (format cf. serialisation) ←
14:36:09 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Lots of discssion about the data vocabs section
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Lots of discssion about the data vocabs section ←
14:36:18 <phila> ... issue of tech neutrality comes up a lot
... issue of tech neutrality comes up a lot ←
14:36:39 <phila> ... we made some good improvements. But we still have some conflicts and I'm not sure that they're solved. More work is needed
... we made some good improvements. But we still have some conflicts and I'm not sure that they're solved. More work is needed ←
14:36:52 <phila> ... I think it's also related to terminology as well as tech
... I think it's also related to terminology as well as tech ←
14:37:04 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Data Licence section - not a lot of discussion about this
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Data Licence section - not a lot of discussion about this ←
14:37:07 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I think the issues of terminology and technological bias are quite intertwined
Joao Almeida: I think the issues of terminology and technological bias are quite intertwined ←
14:37:25 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Almost no discussion on this so far
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Almost no discussion on this so far ←
14:37:40 <phila> ... more detailed review needed
... more detailed review needed ←
14:38:04 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: data Provenance, Quality and ?? still not much discussion
Bernadette Farias Loscio: data Provenance, Quality and Licences still not much discussion ←
14:38:19 <phila> s/??/Licences/
14:38:39 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We had on eissue around Sensitive data. We have an open issue on this
Bernadette Farias Loscio: We had on eissue around Sensitive data. We have an open issue on this ←
14:39:00 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Data Access section, also a little discussion about #23 but maybe we should come back to this
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Data Access section, also a little discussion about #23 but maybe we should come back to this ←
14:39:07 <phila> ... but for now we have 4 BPs
... but for now we have 4 BPs ←
14:39:34 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Data Versioning - 3 BPs. It feels stable as we haven't had many comments or make changes
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Data Versioning - 3 BPs. It feels stable as we haven't had many comments or make changes ←
14:39:59 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: data Preservation - some comments on this. Carlos not too happy wth it but Christophe is defending
Bernadette Farias Loscio: data Preservation - some comments on this. Carlos not too happy wth it but Christophe is defending ←
14:40:09 <phila> ... maybe we need to come back to this
... maybe we need to come back to this ←
14:40:33 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: And finally feedback feels stable. Just one BP so far. Section needs improvement
Bernadette Farias Loscio: And finally feedback feels stable. Just one BP so far. Section needs improvement ←
14:40:43 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Not a lot of feedbacl so far
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Not a lot of feedbacl so far ←
14:40:54 <phila> ... most discussion about metadata and data vocabs
... most discussion about metadata and data vocabs ←
14:41:24 <phila> ... other general issues that were open but in the end we have... it's a lot of wowrk to review everything.
... other general issues that were open but in the end we have... it's a lot of wowrk to review everything. ←
14:41:45 <phila> ... when I go through the whole doc and now I feel that it will be really great to get feedback from outside
... when I go through the whole doc and now I feel that it will be really great to get feedback from outside ←
14:41:50 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Excellent walkthrough of the whole BP document by Bernadette, congratulations!
Joao Almeida: Excellent walkthrough of the whole BP document by Bernadette, congratulations! ←
14:42:13 <hadleybeeman> Thanks, bernadette!
Hadley Beeman: Thanks, bernadette! ←
14:42:16 <annette_g> q+ to ask a question
Annette Greiner: q+ to ask a question ←
14:42:45 <phila> deirdrelee: Thanks Bernadette - there's so much to take in, the status etc.
Deirdre Lee: Thanks Bernadette - there's so much to take in, the status etc. ←
14:42:45 <AdrianoC> Thanks, Bernadette, great job in this complete description! (y)
Adriano Pereira: Thanks, Bernadette, great job in this complete description! (y) ←
14:42:46 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> By the way
Joao Almeida: By the way ←
14:42:50 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Conclusions is curently blank
Joao Almeida: Conclusions is currently blank ←
14:42:52 <phila> ... gald that going through it gives oyu more confidence
... gald that going through it gives oyu more confidence ←
14:42:55 <phila> ack annette_g
ack annette_g ←
14:42:55 <Zakim> annette_g, you wanted to ask a question
Zakim IRC Bot: annette_g, you wanted to ask a question ←
14:42:56 <ericstephan> @yaso - good news about your contact with Christine in the privacy group
Eric Stephan: @yaso - good news about your contact with Christine in the privacy group ←
14:42:58 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> s/curently/currently
14:43:47 <gatemezi> Very nice presentation, thanks BernadetteLoscio
Ghislain Atemezing: Very nice presentation, thanks BernadetteLoscio ←
14:44:00 <Caroline_> +1 to gatemezi
Caroline Burle: +1 to gatemezi ←
14:45:51 <deirdrelee> guys I'm wary of time.....time to vote?
Deirdre Lee: guys I'm wary of time.....time to vote? ←
14:48:04 <ericstephan> vote vote vote vote :-)
Eric Stephan: vote vote vote vote :-) ←
14:48:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> q+ to ask question
Joao Almeida: q+ to ask question ←
14:48:58 <phila> phila: Tries to clarify the situation
Phil Archer: Tries to clarify the situation ←
14:49:02 <hadleybeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
14:49:05 <phila> ack JoaoPauloAlmeida
ack JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:49:05 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida, you wanted to ask question
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida, you wanted to ask question ←
14:49:12 <deirdrelee> zakim, close speaker queue
Deirdre Lee: zakim, close speaker queue ←
14:49:12 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close speaker queue', deirdrelee
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'close speaker queue', deirdrelee ←
14:49:19 <hadleybeeman> zakim, close the queue
Hadley Beeman: zakim, close the queue ←
14:49:19 <Zakim> ok, hadleybeeman, the speaker queue is closed
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, hadleybeeman, the speaker queue is closed ←
14:49:39 <phila> JoaoPauloAlmeida: In some cases, it's not clear that we're looking for feedback on everything
Joao Almeida: In some cases, it's not clear that we're looking for feedback on everything ←
14:49:54 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: If I understand you want something more explicit
Bernadette Farias Loscio: If I understand you want something more explicit ←
14:50:01 <ericstephan> It could also go out in the announcement as well
Eric Stephan: It could also go out in the announcement as well ←
14:50:39 <phila> This is the first working draft of this document to be formally published. In this first version, more than 30 best practices are proposed and more than 25 requirements have been addressed. However, there are still some ongoing discussions in the group about important subjects, like terminology and scope. The group is still working towards consensus on the meaning and application of some important terms including: vocabulary, metadata, data model, data format, sche
This is the first working draft of this document to be formally published. In this first version, more than 30 best practices are proposed and more than 25 requirements have been addressed. However, there are still some ongoing discussions in the group about important subjects, like terminology and scope. The group is still working towards consensus on the meaning and application of some important terms including: vocabulary, metadata, data model, data format, sche ←
14:50:39 <phila> ma and dataset. Other important issues relate to the definition of best practices for vocabularies. For example it is not clear if providing advice to data publishers to create and reuse vocabularies is in the scope of the DWBP. Likewise, there is not yet consensus on whether data preservation is in scope. The Working Group is therefore particularly keen to receive comments to ensure that its future work is relevant, useful and comprehensive.
ma and dataset. Other important issues relate to the definition of best practices for vocabularies. For example it is not clear if providing advice to data publishers to create and reuse vocabularies is in the scope of the DWBP. Likewise, there is not yet consensus on whether data preservation is in scope. The Working Group is therefore particularly keen to receive comments to ensure that its future work is relevant, useful and comprehensive. ←
14:51:03 <phila> phila: ^ is a propsoed block of text to go in the intro
Phil Archer: ^ is a propsoed block of text to go in the intro ←
14:51:09 <antoine> this reads good
Antoine Isaac: this reads good ←
14:51:14 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> nice
Joao Almeida: nice ←
14:51:18 <ericstephan> looks good
Eric Stephan: looks good ←
14:51:23 <phila> and yes, ericstephan we can say things in the anno, blog posts etc.
and yes, ericstephan we can say things in the anno, blog posts etc. ←
14:51:37 <annette_g> still doesn't say that everything is under reiew
Annette Greiner: still doesn't say that everything is under review ←
14:51:47 <annette_g> s/reiew/review
14:52:01 <yaso> nice
Yaso Córdova: nice ←
14:52:06 <antoine> annette_g: "The Working Group is therefore particularly keen to receive comments"
Annette Greiner: "The Working Group is therefore particularly keen to receive comments" [ Scribe Assist by Antoine Isaac ] ←
14:52:19 <CarlosIglesias> to be included as an issue note?
Carlos Iglesias: to be included as an issue note? ←
14:52:20 <hadleybeeman> I think, by definition, everything is under review until it's a formal recommendation, no?
Hadley Beeman: I think, by definition, everything is under review until it's a formal recommendation, no? ←
14:52:35 <Caroline_> annette_g: it says in the end that we are looking to receive comments
Annette Greiner: it says in the end that we are looking to receive comments [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ] ←
14:52:43 <Caroline_> +1 to put this text in the introduction
Caroline Burle: +1 to put this text in the introduction ←
14:53:31 <Zakim> -AdrianoC
Zakim IRC Bot: -AdrianoC ←
14:53:49 <phila> Discussion around inclusion of the text, where it goes etc
Discussion around inclusion of the text, where it goes etc ←
14:54:02 <CarlosIglesias> still think data preservation sections needs an specific issue note
Carlos Iglesias: still think data preservation sections needs an specific issue note ←
14:54:04 <phila> deirdrelee: Concerned about timing
Deirdre Lee: Concerned about timing ←
14:54:09 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> a caipirinha
Joao Almeida: a caipirinha ←
14:54:09 <gatemezi> +1 to put the text ..
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to put the text .. ←
14:54:17 <BernadetteLoscio> yes Carlos! We're gonna include
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes Carlos! We're gonna include ←
14:54:19 <phila> PROPOSED: To include this para or something like it, in the intro
PROPOSED: To include this para or something like it, in the intro ←
14:54:23 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:54:24 <CarlosIglesias> relevant enough to deserve that
Carlos Iglesias: relevant enough to deserve that ←
14:54:27 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
14:54:27 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
14:54:27 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
14:54:27 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
14:54:28 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
14:54:29 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
14:54:29 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 ←
14:54:30 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
14:54:30 <phila> +1
+1 ←
14:54:31 <Caroline_> +1
Caroline Burle: +1 ←
14:54:34 <vagner> +1
Vagner Diniz: +1 ←
14:54:36 <AdrianoC> +1
Adriano Pereira: +1 ←
14:54:39 <hadleybeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:54:42 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
14:54:43 <phila> RESOLVED: To include this para or something like it, in the intro
RESOLVED: To include this para or something like it, in the intro ←
14:54:45 <Eric_Kauz> +1
14:54:49 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice] ←
14:54:50 <phila> deirdrelee: So we have two votes
Deirdre Lee: So we have two votes ←
14:54:50 <annette_g> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
14:54:58 <MTCarrasco> +1
14:55:00 <MakxDekkers> +1
Makx Dekkers: +1 ←
14:55:25 <antoine> btw I note that our organization is not on it :-)
Antoine Isaac: btw I note that our organization is not on it :-) ←
14:55:25 <deirdrelee> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html
Deirdre Lee: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html ←
14:55:39 <phila> PROPOSED: That the WG publish the next WD of the Use Case document http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html
PROPOSED: That the WG publish the next WD of the Use Case document http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html ←
14:55:44 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
14:55:45 <hadleybeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:55:46 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
14:55:50 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
14:55:53 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
14:55:53 <annette_g> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
14:55:54 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:55:54 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
14:55:55 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
14:55:58 <Eric_Kauz> +1
14:55:59 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
14:55:59 <AdrianoC> +1
Adriano Pereira: +1 ←
14:56:00 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 ←
14:56:02 <Caroline_> +1
Caroline Burle: +1 ←
14:56:03 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
14:56:05 <MTCarrasco> +1
14:56:05 <MakxDekkers> +1
Makx Dekkers: +1 ←
14:56:08 <phila> +1 if the DWBP doc is published simultaneously
+1 if the DWBP doc is published simultaneously ←
14:56:16 <vagner> +1
Vagner Diniz: +1 ←
14:56:24 <phila> RESOLVED: That the WG publish the next WD of the Use Case document http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html
RESOLVED: That the WG publish the next WD of the Use Case document http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html ←
14:56:38 <annette_g> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
14:56:55 <phila> PROPOSED: That the BP doc currenetly at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html is published a a FPWD
PROPOSED: That the BP doc currently at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html is published as a FPWD ←
14:57:01 <annette_g> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
14:57:01 <hadleybeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:57:01 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
14:57:01 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
14:57:02 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:57:03 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
14:57:06 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
14:57:06 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
14:57:07 <Caroline_> +1
Caroline Burle: +1 ←
14:57:09 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
14:57:09 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 ←
14:57:10 <AdrianoC> +1
Adriano Pereira: +1 ←
14:57:11 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
14:57:12 <MTCarrasco> +1
14:57:13 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> s/currenetly/currently
14:57:13 <MakxDekkers> 0
Makx Dekkers: 0 ←
14:57:31 <vagner> +1
Vagner Diniz: +1 ←
14:57:38 <Eric_Kauz> +1
14:57:38 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
14:57:40 <phila> ack MakxDekkers
ack MakxDekkers ←
14:57:45 <MakxDekkers> zakim, unmute me
Makx Dekkers: zakim, unmute me ←
14:57:45 <Zakim> MakxDekkers was not muted, MakxDekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: MakxDekkers was not muted, MakxDekkers ←
14:57:45 <CarlosIglesias> would like to raise your attention to the fact that similar terminology problems may apply also to the Use Case Document
Carlos Iglesias: would like to raise your attention to the fact that similar terminology problems may apply also to the Use Case Document ←
14:57:46 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> s/published a a/published as a
14:58:06 <CarlosIglesias> so need to coordinate once we decide on final terminology
Carlos Iglesias: so need to coordinate once we decide on final terminology ←
14:58:21 <MTCarrasco> q+
14:58:38 <phila> MakxDekkers: From my POV there is too much that we're still discussing. I don't want to stop it, but if this were for a client I wouldn't want to pass this on
Makx Dekkers: From my POV there is too much that we're still discussing. I don't want to stop it, but if this were for a client I wouldn't want to pass this on ←
14:58:46 <phila> ack MTCarrasco
ack MTCarrasco ←
14:58:54 <BernadetteLoscio> yes Carlos... we're gonna do this
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes Carlos... we're gonna do this ←
14:59:19 <hadleybeeman> Makx, that makes sense to me. But I feel okay because this is a FPWD, not a full rec yet.
Hadley Beeman: Makx, that makes sense to me. But I feel okay because this is a FPWD, not a full rec yet. ←
14:59:24 <phila> MTCarrasco: I'm not extremely happy, but at the otehr hand we have to publish something to get feedback so it's not that we're voting on the final recommendations
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I'm not extremely happy, but at the otehr hand we have to publish something to get feedback so it's not that we're voting on the final recommendations ←
14:59:29 <hadleybeeman> +1 to MTCarrasco! Well said :)
Hadley Beeman: +1 to MTCarrasco! Well said :) ←
14:59:32 <phila> ... so let's go ahead and take the punches
... so let's go ahead and take the punches ←
14:59:33 <ericstephan> +1 MTCarrasco
Eric Stephan: +1 MTCarrasco ←
14:59:34 <antoine> I think that the idea is not to go to clients yet.
Antoine Isaac: I think that the idea is not to go to clients yet. ←
14:59:49 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 MTCarrasco
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 MTCarrasco ←
14:59:50 <hadleybeeman> I think that's a resolved
Hadley Beeman: I think that's a resolved ←
15:00:22 <ericstephan> 3 proposal approvals in 5 minutes is this a W3C record?
Eric Stephan: 3 proposal approvals in 5 minutes is this a W3C record? ←
15:00:23 <phila> RESOLVED: That the BP doc currently at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html is published as a FPWD
RESOLVED: That the BP doc currently at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html is published as a FPWD ←
15:00:23 <annette_g> +1 for nervousness
Annette Greiner: +1 for nervousness ←
15:00:35 <BernadetteLoscio> :)
Bernadette Farias Loscio: :) ←
15:00:38 <phila> phila: Is nervous...
Phil Archer: Is nervous... ←
15:00:39 <hadleybeeman> We still have work left to do, I think we all agree on that.
Hadley Beeman: We still have work left to do, I think we all agree on that. ←
15:00:40 <antoine> +1 but in the end it will be alright :-)
Antoine Isaac: +1 but in the end it will be alright :-) ←
15:00:48 <hadleybeeman> But yes — feedback should help us!
Hadley Beeman: But yes — feedback should help us! ←
15:00:48 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila's disclaimer makes me less nervous
Joao Almeida: phila's disclaimer makes me less nervous ←
15:00:53 <Caroline_> +1 to hadleybeeman
Caroline Burle: +1 to hadleybeeman ←
15:01:02 <hadleybeeman> Yeay!! 2 big resolutions today!
Hadley Beeman: Yeay!! 2 big resolutions today! ←
15:01:06 <laufer> comgrats to the editors!
Carlos Laufer: comgrats to the editors! ←
15:01:12 <antoine> congrats!
Antoine Isaac: congrats! ←
15:01:13 <phila> deirdrelee: Congrats to editors, esp Bernadette
Deirdre Lee: Congrats to editors, esp Bernadette ←
15:01:14 <yaso> yes!!
Yaso Córdova: yes!! ←
15:01:19 <laufer> congrats
Carlos Laufer: congrats ←
15:01:20 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> good stuff, congrats
Joao Almeida: good stuff, congrats ←
15:01:20 <AdrianoC> Congrats! (y)
Adriano Pereira: Congrats! (y) ←
15:01:21 <gatemezi> congrats all editors... deirdrelee, BernadetteLoscio et al.
Ghislain Atemezing: congrats all editors... deirdrelee, BernadetteLoscio et al. ←
15:01:29 <phila> deirdrelee: So next steps are how to address feedback etc.
Deirdre Lee: So next steps are how to address feedback etc. ←
15:01:30 <annette_g> go, us! let's keep up the work!
Annette Greiner: go, us! let's keep up the work! ←
15:01:33 <yaso> tks editors - agree to pay more beer to BernadetteLoscio :-)
Yaso Córdova: tks editors - agree to pay more beer to BernadetteLoscio :-) ←
15:01:35 <ericstephan> Deirdre thank you for carrying the UCR forward!
Eric Stephan: Deirdre thank you for carrying the UCR forward! ←
15:01:42 <vagner> congrasts editors
Vagner Diniz: congrasts editors ←
15:01:43 <phila> ... +1 to ericstephan
... +1 to ericstephan ←
15:01:44 <newton> thanks to Bernadette to lead us so well :-)
Newton Calegari: thanks to Bernadette to lead us so well :-) ←
15:01:46 <riccardoAlbertoni> thanks for all the work, Congrats!!
Riccardo Albertoni: thanks for all the work, Congrats!! ←
15:01:51 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
15:01:55 <MTCarrasco> bye
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: bye ←
15:02:03 <gatemezi> bye
Ghislain Atemezing: bye ←
15:02:07 <Caroline_> +1 to newton BernadetteLoscio was incredible!
Caroline Burle: +1 to newton BernadetteLoscio was incredible! ←
15:02:10 <laufer> nice weekend! by all! work is only beginning...
Carlos Laufer: nice weekend! by all! work is only beginning... ←
15:02:19 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: -MakxDekkers ←
15:02:24 <annette_g> thanks, Phil!
Annette Greiner: thanks, Phil! ←
15:02:27 <ericstephan> yahoo!
Eric Stephan: yahoo! ←
15:02:29 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> bye
Joao Almeida: bye ←
15:02:31 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco
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15:02:32 <riccardoAlbertoni> bye
Riccardo Albertoni: bye ←
15:02:33 <Zakim> -Eric_Kauz
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15:02:33 <CarlosIglesias> bye!
Carlos Iglesias: bye! ←
15:02:37 <yaso> bye!!!
Yaso Córdova: bye!!! ←
15:02:37 <Zakim> -annette_g
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15:02:38 <AdrianoC> Bye!
Adriano Pereira: Bye! ←
15:02:39 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias
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15:02:40 <Zakim> -phila
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15:02:40 <Zakim> -deirdrelee
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15:02:40 <Zakim> -riccardoAlbertoni
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15:02:42 <Zakim> -Caroline_
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15:02:42 <Zakim> -ericstephan
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15:02:43 <Zakim> -antoine
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15:02:45 <Zakim> -laufer
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15:02:47 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
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15:02:50 <Zakim> -[GVoice]
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15:02:52 <annette_g> bye!
Annette Greiner: bye! ←
15:03:03 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
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15:03:04 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended ←
15:03:04 <Zakim> Attendees were deirdrelee, antoine, HadleyBeeman, annette_g, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, +1.609.557.aaaa, Eric_Kauz, phila, AdrianoC, riccardoAlbertoni, laufer, BernadetteLoscio,
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15:03:04 <Zakim> ... newton, JoaoPauloAlmeida, CarlosIglesias, MakxDekkers, yaso, vagner, [GVoice]
Zakim IRC Bot: ... newton, JoaoPauloAlmeida, CarlosIglesias, MakxDekkers, yaso, vagner, [GVoice] ←
15:03:57 <hadleybeeman> Yeay!! :) Glad you're coming, deirdrelee
Hadley Beeman: Yeay!! :) Glad you're coming, deirdrelee ←
15:04:28 <deirdrelee> looking forward to it!
Deirdre Lee: looking forward to it! ←
15:04:35 <deirdrelee> thanks for scribing phil
Deirdre Lee: thanks for scribing phil ←
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