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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group

Minutes of 12 December 2014

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141212
Seen
Adriano Pereira, Annette Greiner, Antoine Isaac, Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Iglesias, Carlos Laufer, Christophe Gueret, Eric Stephan, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, Jeremy Debattista, Joao Almeida, Makx Dekkers, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício, Newton Calegari, Phil Archer, Reinaldo Ferraz, Riccardo Albertoni, Steven Adler, Yaso Córdova
Guests
Reinaldo Ferraz
Regrets
Makx Dekkers, Antoine Isaac
Chair
Hadley Beeman
Scribe
Yaso Córdova
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-12-05 link
Topics
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13:57:28 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141212

Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141212

13:57:36 <phila> RRSAgent, make logs public

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13:57:45 <phila> zakim, this will be dwbp

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13:57:45 <Zakim> ok, phila; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes

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13:58:49 <phila> zakim, ipcaller is me

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13:58:50 <Zakim> +phila; got it

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13:59:41 <gatemezi> Hi all

Ghislain Atemezing: Hi all

13:59:58 <cgueret> hello!

Christophe Gueret: hello!

13:59:58 <phila> Guest: Reinaldo Ferraz
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14:00:20 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller i sme

Joao Almeida: Zakim, IPcaller i sme

14:00:20 <Zakim> I don't understand 'IPcaller i sme', JoaoPauloAlmeida

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14:00:26 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P21 is me

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P21 is me

14:00:26 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it

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14:00:26 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, IPcaller is me

14:00:27 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

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14:01:36 <hadleybeeman> Hello!

Hadley Beeman: Hello!

14:02:03 <hadleybeeman> Oh no! Sorry to hear that, cgueret

Hadley Beeman: Oh no! Sorry to hear that, cgueret

14:02:38 <Zakim> + +1.509.554.aaaa

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14:02:51 <ericstephan> zakim, +1.509 is me

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14:02:51 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it

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14:02:58 <Zakim> +??P28

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14:03:04 <cgueret> Zakim, ??P28 is me

Christophe Gueret: Zakim, ??P28 is me

14:03:04 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it

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14:03:09 <cgueret> zakim, mute me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me

14:03:09 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted

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14:03:20 <Zakim> +Reinaldo

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14:03:31 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: Agenda: Chair brought to you by Royal Appointment. We are your humble servants, ready to do as you command

Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: Agenda: Chair brought to you by Royal Appointment. We are your humble servants, ready to do as you command

14:03:48 <cgueret> :)

Christophe Gueret: :)

14:03:54 <hadleybeeman> Ha! Thanks, PhilA. *blushes*

Hadley Beeman: Ha! Thanks, PhilA. *blushes*

14:04:34 <yaso> Hi all

Yaso Córdova: Hi all

14:04:39 <phila> Hi yaso

Phil Archer: Hi yaso

14:05:07 <yaso> I was going to ask about this, hadleybeeman ...

Yaso Córdova: I was going to ask about this, hadleybeeman ...

14:05:09 <Zakim> +Steve

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14:05:17 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141212

Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141212

14:05:34 <Zakim> + +1.510.384.aabb

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14:05:52 <yaso> Zakim, yaso has newton

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, yaso has newton

14:05:52 <Zakim> sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso'

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14:06:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:06:11 <yaso> Zakim, who’s on the phone

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, who’s on the phone

14:06:11 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who’s on the phone', yaso

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14:06:16 <Zakim> + +39.349.096.aacc

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14:06:17 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Carlos Laufer: Zakim, IPcaller is me

14:06:17 <Zakim> +laufer; got it

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14:06:38 <yaso> Zakim, Caroline is yaso

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline is yaso

14:06:38 <Zakim> sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline'

14:06:40 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

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14:07:00 <RiccardoAlbertoni> zakim, +39.349.096.aacc is me

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14:08:19 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

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14:08:39 <Zakim> +??P33

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14:08:40 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Hello all

Riccardo Albertoni: Hello all

14:08:44 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aadd

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14:09:00 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim who is making noise?

Joao Almeida: Zakim who is making noise?

14:09:03 <cgueret> :-)

Christophe Gueret: :-)

14:09:08 <cgueret> hello!

Christophe Gueret: hello!

14:09:22 <AdrianoC> Zakim, ??P33 is AdrianoC

Adriano Pereira: Zakim, ??P33 is AdrianoC

14:09:22 <Zakim> +AdrianoC; got it

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14:09:43 <gatemezi> Zakim, +33.4.93.00.aadd is me

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, +33.4.93.00.aadd is me

14:09:43 <Zakim> +gatemezi; got it

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14:09:51 <Zakim> +??P32

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14:10:08 <jerdeb> Zakim, ??P32 is me

Jeremy Debattista: Zakim, ??P32 is me

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14:10:42 <laufer> Hot

Carlos Laufer: Hot

14:10:47 <phila> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-12-05

PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-12-05

14:10:51 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> laufer lives in Rio :-)

Joao Almeida: laufer lives in Rio :-)

14:10:52 <laufer> very hot

Carlos Laufer: very hot

14:10:58 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> right?

Joao Almeida: right?

14:11:05 <laufer> right

Carlos Laufer: right

14:11:36 <gatemezi> +0 since I was absent

Ghislain Atemezing: +0 since I was absent

14:11:39 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:11:39 <ericstephan> +0 didn't attend

Eric Stephan: +0 didn't attend

14:11:41 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

14:11:43 <phila> I was impressed to see that Sumit scribed so well last week that I didn't need to make any edits to get rid of red boxes

Phil Archer: I was impressed to see that Sumit scribed so well last week that I didn't need to make any edits to get rid of red boxes

14:11:46 <AdrianoC> +1

Adriano Pereira: +1

14:11:48 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

14:11:50 <annette_g> I was in Michigan, not very hot

Annette Greiner: I was in Michigan, not very hot

14:11:57 <yaso> scribe: yaso

(Scribe set to Yaso Córdova)

14:11:57 <yaso> proposed: aprove last week’s minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-12-12

PROPOSED: aprove last week’s minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-12-12

14:11:57 <yaso> PROPOSED: aprove last week’s minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-12-12

PROPOSED: aprove last week’s minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-12-12

14:11:57 <yaso> +1

+1

14:11:57 <yaso> PROPOSED: aprove last week’s minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-12-12

PROPOSED: aprove last week’s minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-12-12

14:12:09 <annette_g> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

14:12:14 <cgueret> that's the minutes for today...

Christophe Gueret: that's the minutes for today...

14:12:22 <adler1> +1

Steven Adler: +1

14:12:42 <cgueret> +1 to approve last week minutes

Christophe Gueret: +1 to approve last week minutes

14:12:48 <phila> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-12-05

RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-12-05

14:12:50 <gatemezi> We still continue with +1's from phil link ;)

Ghislain Atemezing: We still continue with +1's from phil link ;)

14:13:04 <phila> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141212
14:13:15 <phila> chair: Hadley
14:14:06 <phila> Regrets: Makx, Antoine
14:14:23 <cgueret> Zakim, unmute me

Christophe Gueret: Zakim, unmute me

14:14:23 <Zakim> cgueret should no longer be muted

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14:14:35 <gatemezi> Not sure to understand ..

Ghislain Atemezing: Not sure to understand ..

14:14:48 <phila> I think Newton is talking about http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/

Phil Archer: I think Newton is talking about http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/

14:14:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:14:53 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

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14:15:03 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

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14:15:40 <MTCarrasco> xmllint

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: xmllint

14:15:52 <cgueret> https://github.com/w3c/tidy-html5

Christophe Gueret: https://github.com/w3c/tidy-html5

14:16:00 <cgueret> tidy -im bp.html

Christophe Gueret: tidy -im bp.html

14:16:23 <gatemezi> Zakim, unmute me

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14:16:23 <Zakim> gatemezi should no longer be muted

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14:17:14 <yaso_> newton: I think that everyone that is editting the document should use the same html format

Newton Calegari: I think that everyone that is editting the document should use the same html format

14:17:48 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

14:17:58 <yaso_> q+

q+

14:18:05 <phila> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

14:18:06 <nathalia> Zakim, yaso has nathalia

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, yaso has nathalia

14:18:06 <Zakim> sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso'

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14:18:13 <nathalia> Zakim, yaso_ has nathalia

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, yaso_ has nathalia

14:18:13 <Zakim> sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso_'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso_'

14:18:22 <nathalia> Zakim, yaso has nathalia

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, yaso has nathalia

14:18:22 <Zakim> sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso'

14:18:35 <yaso> phila: the reason that we had a problem with a merge this week is that html tidy changes things

Phil Archer: the reason that we had a problem with a merge this week is that html tidy changes things

14:18:44 <nathalia> Zakim, caroline has nathalia

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, caroline has nathalia

14:18:44 <Zakim> sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'caroline'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'caroline'

14:19:03 <adler1> +1 phila

Steven Adler: +1 phila

14:19:09 <cgueret> +1

Christophe Gueret: +1

14:19:11 <MTCarrasco> q

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q

14:19:14 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

14:19:17 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> the editor could use it...

Joao Almeida: the editor could use it...

14:19:29 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> to clean things up

Joao Almeida: to clean things up

14:19:35 <BernadetteLoscio> we can use just in the end?

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we can use just in the end?

14:19:45 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> yes at certain milestones

Joao Almeida: yes at certain milestones

14:19:50 <cgueret> zakim, mute me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me

14:19:50 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted

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14:19:55 <cgueret> +1 to that

Christophe Gueret: +1 to that

14:19:57 <phila> +1

Phil Archer: +1

14:19:57 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:20:03 <annette_g> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

14:20:13 <phila> q?

Phil Archer: q?

14:20:15 <yaso> newton: we keep editing the document without using tidy and just run it at the end ?

Newton Calegari: we keep editing the document without using tidy and just run it at the end ?

14:20:18 <yaso> +1

+1

14:20:22 <yaso> q-

q-

14:20:30 <yaso> q-

q-

14:20:36 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

14:20:40 <phila> ack MTCarrasco

Phil Archer: ack MTCarrasco

14:20:58 <yaso> q-

q-

14:21:06 <phila> MTCarrasco: I use XML Lint - it gives a minimal syntax validation

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I use XML Lint - it gives a minimal syntax validation [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:21:08 <MTCarrasco> q-

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q-

14:21:11 <phila> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

14:21:46 <MTCarrasco> +1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: +1

14:21:49 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

14:21:51 <yaso> phila: I suggest to move on to the standards document

Phil Archer: I suggest to move on to the standards document

14:21:51 <phila> q- yaso_

Phil Archer: q- yaso_

14:21:52 <yaso> +1

+1

14:21:53 <cgueret> +1

Christophe Gueret: +1

14:21:54 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:21:55 <MTCarrasco> to Phil

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: to Phil

14:22:07 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1 to Phil

Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to Phil

14:22:34 <yaso> Newton: no problem, I’ll send an email later

Newton Calegari: no problem, I’ll send an email later

14:22:42 <yaso> topic: Best practices document

1. Best practices document

14:23:03 <yaso> hadleybeeman: this discussion should be guided by the editors

Hadley Beeman: this discussion should be guided by the editors

14:23:07 <phila> regrets+ Caroline

Phil Archer: regrets+ Caroline

14:23:17 <yaso> newton: caroline is not here

Newton Calegari: caroline is not here

14:23:40 <newton> BernadetteLoscio can you hear us?

Newton Calegari: BernadetteLoscio can you hear us?

14:23:44 <BernadetteLoscio> yes...

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes...

14:23:51 <BernadetteLoscio> there is a lot of noisy here

Bernadette Farias Loscio: there is a lot of noisy here

14:23:56 <BernadetteLoscio> i can try to talk

Bernadette Farias Loscio: i can try to talk

14:24:12 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:24:12 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

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14:24:31 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: to noise here, and with bad connection

Bernadette Farias Loscio: to noise here, and with bad connection

14:24:59 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: I’m happy we have a first version, thanks, but we still have a lot of work to do

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I’m happy we have a first version, thanks, but we still have a lot of work to do

14:25:29 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: we had a discussion about the audience, this is one of my ponts, the other is about the organizations of the best practices: if we are going to organize it

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we had a discussion about the audience, this is one of my points, the other is about the organizations of the best practices: if we are going to organize it

14:25:41 <BernadetteLoscio> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

Bernadette Farias Loscio: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

14:25:46 <gatemezi> s/ponts/points
14:25:50 <yaso> .. according to the lifecicle or other organization

.. according to the lifecycle or other organization

14:26:20 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

14:26:50 <yaso> … the other thing is that I don’t know if our priority now, to have the 1st wd, is writing more content on sections that are empty or continue editing the sections that are already being constructed

… the other thing is that I don’t know if our priority now, to have the 1st wd, is writing more content on sections that are empty or continue editing the sections that are already being constructed

14:26:53 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> s/lifecicle/lifecycle
14:27:03 <yaso> … this is something that I would like to discuss with the group

… this is something that I would like to discuss with the group

14:27:04 <adler1> q+

Steven Adler: q+

14:27:09 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:27:09 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

14:27:24 <hadleybeeman> ack mt

Hadley Beeman: ack mt

14:27:34 <yaso> MTCarrasco: regarding the content: I’m adding parts of the COMURI document

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: regarding the content: I’m adding parts of the COMURI document

14:27:37 <MTCarrasco> http://dragoman.org/bpc.html

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://dragoman.org/bpc.html

14:27:40 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:27:56 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:28:03 <yaso> … and there was no comments about the document, so I’m going forward merging it

… and there was no comments about the document, so I’m going forward merging it

14:28:23 <cgueret> q+ to speak about preservation, again

Christophe Gueret: q+ to speak about preservation, again

14:28:37 <hadleybeeman> ack adler

Hadley Beeman: ack adler

14:28:48 <yaso> adler1: first I wanna to comment that we’re doing fantastic work

Steven Adler: first I wanna to comment that we’re doing fantastic work

14:29:00 <BernadetteLoscio> Tomas, before doing the merge, I think you should specify in which sections of the BP document the information from COMURI should be included.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Tomas, before doing the merge, I think you should specify in which sections of the BP document the information from COMURI should be included.

14:29:04 <hadleybeeman> +1 to Steve:  everyone on the BP doc has done a great amount of work

Hadley Beeman: +1 to Steve: everyone on the BP doc has done a great amount of work

14:29:11 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is noisy?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is noisy?

14:29:15 <yaso> Zakim, whos noisy?

Zakim, whos noisy?

14:29:15 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, yaso.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, yaso.

14:29:22 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Steve (67%), Reinaldo (14%), gatemezi (45%)

Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Steve (67%), Reinaldo (14%), gatemezi (45%)

14:29:36 <gatemezi> Zakim, mute me

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, mute me

14:29:36 <Zakim> gatemezi should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: gatemezi should now be muted

14:30:23 <yaso> … phil has begun with providing some native english to the document, I can help with this too

… phil has begun with providing some native english to the document, I can help with this too

14:30:45 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:30:49 <yaso> adler1: I suggest that the group can focus on content and not with sintaxes

Steven Adler: I suggest that the group can focus on content and not with sintaxes

14:30:58 <hadleybeeman> ack annete

Hadley Beeman: ack annete

14:31:01 <hadleybeeman> ack annette

Hadley Beeman: ack annette

14:31:03 <MTCarrasco> Bernadette: the sections that are starting to appear in BP and that are in http://dragoman.org/bpc.html and http://dragoman.org/comuri.html

Bernadette Farias Loscio: the sections that are starting to appear in BP and that are in http://dragoman.org/bpc.html and http://dragoman.org/comuri.html [ Scribe Assist by Manuel Carrasco Benitez ]

14:31:32 <MTCarrasco> URI should be in COMURI

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: URI should be in COMURI

14:31:37 <yaso> hadleybeeman: are you talking about the COMURI?

Hadley Beeman: are you talking about the COMURI?

14:31:54 <yaso> hadleybeeman: we have to agree on publishing the COMURI document

Hadley Beeman: we have to agree on publishing the COMURI document

14:32:03 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

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14:32:51 <hadleybeeman> ack bernadette

Hadley Beeman: ack bernadette

14:32:51 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

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14:33:02 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, [ipcaller] is me

Carlos Iglesias: zakim, [ipcaller] is me

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14:33:32 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

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14:33:33 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio:  we should not be specific about technologies, so MTCarrasco if you can

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we should not be specific about technologies, so MTCarrasco if you can

14:33:47 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

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14:33:55 <yaso> … check what information fits in each section

… check what information fits in each section

14:34:05 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

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14:34:07 <yaso> … just to help us to organize all this information of the COMURI document

… just to help us to organize all this information of the COMURI document

14:34:07 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:34:33 <hadleybeeman> ack mtcarrasco

Hadley Beeman: ack mtcarrasco

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14:34:45 <yaso> MTCarrasco: the point is:  dont’ want to merge the document if the content is not relevant

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the point is: dont’ want to merge the document if the content is not relevant

14:34:50 <cgueret> zakim, ??P37 is me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P37 is me

14:34:50 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it

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14:34:54 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:35:01 <yaso> … the COMURI is mostly concerned about URIs

… the COMURI is mostly concerned about URIs

14:35:56 <yaso> … I’ll have to create a new section on

… I’ll have to create a new section on

14:36:04 <hadleybeeman> ack cgueret

Hadley Beeman: ack cgueret

14:36:05 <Zakim> cgueret, you wanted to speak about preservation, again

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret, you wanted to speak about preservation, again

14:36:47 <MTCarrasco> archiving +1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: archiving +1

14:37:00 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

14:37:10 <yaso> cgueret: can you repeat your proposal?

Christophe Gueret: can you repeat your proposal?

14:37:33 <adler1> q+

Steven Adler: q+

14:37:39 <cgueret> currently as 6.2.2 on github

Christophe Gueret: currently as 6.2.2 on github

14:37:44 <gatemezi> section 6.2.2 cgueret

Ghislain Atemezing: section 6.2.2 cgueret

14:37:45 <yaso> cgueret: thanks

Christophe Gueret: thanks

14:37:49 <newton> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#dataPreservation

Newton Calegari: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#dataPreservation

14:38:11 <hadleybeeman> ack mt

Hadley Beeman: ack mt

14:38:15 <cgueret> zakim, mute me

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14:38:22 <yaso> MTCarrasco: This is a good way to put it

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: This is a good way to put it

14:38:28 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I bleieve that preservation is outside the scope because our focus in on the interoperability of data (data on the web).

Joao Almeida: I believe that preservation is outside the scope because our focus in on the interoperability of data (data on the web).

14:38:38 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> s/bleieve/believe
14:38:45 <adler1> I agree with this

Steven Adler: I agree with this

14:38:55 <hadleybeeman> ack adler

Hadley Beeman: ack adler

14:38:59 <yaso> MTCarrasco: how to adress that should be in the scope

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: how to adress that should be in the scope

14:39:03 <laufer> +1 to tomas

Carlos Laufer: +1 to tomas

14:39:14 <yaso> +1 also

+1 also

14:39:18 <cgueret> BP9 right now for this

Christophe Gueret: BP9 right now for this

14:39:27 <cgueret> ;)

Christophe Gueret: ;)

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14:39:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> so, requirements on the preservation are relevant (agreeing with MTCarrasco)

Joao Almeida: so, requirements on the preservation are relevant (agreeing with MTCarrasco)

14:39:48 <yaso> hadleybeeman: I don’t think you need formal approval of the group

Hadley Beeman: I don’t think you need formal approval of the group

14:40:06 <cgueret> zakim, mute me

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14:40:08 <yaso> Thanks JoaoPauloAlmeida

Thanks JoaoPauloAlmeida

14:40:29 <yaso> hadleybeeman: What else do we need to have at the document for the FPWD

Hadley Beeman: What else do we need to have at the document for the FPWD

14:40:40 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

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14:40:54 <yaso> hadleybeeman: do you want to propose specific questions to the group?

Hadley Beeman: do you want to propose specific questions to the group?

14:41:36 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: we had discussions by email about the audience, annette_g asked if we are going to consider both publishers and consumers

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we had discussions by email about the audience, annette_g asked if we are going to consider both publishers and consumers

14:41:44 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:41:45 <yaso> … I think that we should consider both

… I think that we should consider both

14:42:04 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: we need to decide if we are going to consider data publishers and data consumers

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we need to decide if we are going to consider data publishers and data consumers

14:42:25 <ericstephan> +1 @BernadetteLoscio publishers and consumers

Eric Stephan: +1 @BernadetteLoscio publishers and consumers

14:42:27 <yaso> … in my opinion, the Best Practices should be for both

… in my opinion, the Best Practices should be for both

14:42:33 <RiccardoAlbertoni> I agree on having both data consumer and publisher, they are at some extents two faces of the same coin.

Riccardo Albertoni: I agree on having both data consumer and publisher, they are at some extents two faces of the same coin.

14:42:37 <hadleybeeman> ack annette

Hadley Beeman: ack annette

14:42:39 <yaso> .. I think data consumers should be aware of it also

.. I think data consumers should be aware of it also

14:43:04 <MTCarrasco> I need to know if I merge into BP some relevant sections or not: data packing, etc - COMURI syntax should be a separated doc

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I need to know if I merge into BP some relevant sections or not: data packing, etc - COMURI syntax should be a separated doc

14:43:06 <jerdeb> +1 for Bernadette's view on data publishers and consumers

Jeremy Debattista: +1 for Bernadette's view on data publishers and consumers

14:43:12 <yaso> annette_g: looking at the list of the best practices that we have now, It seems to me that we should focus on publishers

Annette Greiner: looking at the list of the best practices that we have now, It seems to me that we should focus on publishers

14:43:22 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:43:26 <laufer> a person that is responsible for defining a URI scheme is a data publisher?

Carlos Laufer: a person that is responsible for defining a URI scheme is a data publisher?

14:43:35 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

14:43:36 <yaso> … I don’t know either, but I would like to see what other think about it

… I don’t know either, but I would like to see what other think about it

14:43:44 <BernadetteLoscio> q-

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q-

14:43:49 <yaso> q?

q?

14:43:57 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:44:04 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Scope

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Scope

14:44:28 <hadleybeeman> ack ericstephan

Hadley Beeman: ack ericstephan

14:44:33 <MTCarrasco> laufer URI : yes  the publisher is the URI minter

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: laufer URI : yes the publisher is the URI minter

14:44:37 <gatemezi> I agree that we should focus on publishers, but also to take into account consumers view during the publication process

Ghislain Atemezing: I agree that we should focus on publishers, but also to take into account consumers view during the publication process

14:44:46 <yaso> ericstephan: I just want to add that even if the document is focused on published

Eric Stephan: I just want to add that even if the document is focused on published

14:45:09 <annette_g> +1 to considering consumers in info for publishers

Annette Greiner: +1 to considering consumers in info for publishers

14:45:18 <MTCarrasco> +1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: +1

14:45:23 <yaso> ericstephan: I think that to publish data without consumers in mind don’t seems to me a good practice

Eric Stephan: I think that to publish data without consumers in mind don’t seems to me a good practice

14:45:25 <phila> q+ to make a new suggestion

Phil Archer: q+ to make a new suggestion

14:45:36 <MTCarrasco> Consumer are the customers

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Consumer are the customers

14:45:46 <hadleybeeman> ack bern

Hadley Beeman: ack bern

14:46:00 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: in the document, section 6.3 it’s about BP for external user feedback

Bernadette Farias Loscio: in the document, section 6.3 it’s about BP for external user feedback

14:46:02 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1 to ericstephan

Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to ericstephan

14:46:03 <laufer> I agree that consumers are consumers...  but consumers could assume a publisher role too...

Carlos Laufer: I agree that consumers are consumers... but consumers could assume a publisher role too...

14:46:15 <nathalia> +1 to ericstephan

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: +1 to ericstephan

14:46:21 <yaso> .. if we are going to consider data enrichment we will have to consider how this data will be used

.. if we are going to consider data enrichment we will have to consider how this data will be used

14:46:34 <phila> q-

Phil Archer: q-

14:46:34 <yaso> … we will have to consider how to use this data

… we will have to consider how to use this data

14:46:43 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

14:47:01 <yaso> q+

q+

14:47:24 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:47:37 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

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14:47:42 <hadleybeeman> ack mt

Hadley Beeman: ack mt

14:47:59 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:47:59 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

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14:47:59 <yaso> MTCarrasco: the point of the lifecycle - should we take archiving in to account?

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the point of the lifecycle - should we take archiving in to account?

14:48:34 <yaso> MTCarrasco: if the data is dinamic, it will be impossible to read it in the future

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: if the data is dinamic, it will be impossible to read it in the future

14:48:37 <hadleybeeman> ack yaso

Hadley Beeman: ack yaso

14:48:40 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

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14:49:07 <MTCarrasco> static vs. dynamic data - http://dragoman.org/bpc.html#static-and-dynamic-data

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: static vs. dynamic data - http://dragoman.org/bpc.html#static-and-dynamic-data

14:49:24 <cgueret> q+ to discuss that data on the web is by definition dynamic

Christophe Gueret: q+ to discuss that data on the web is by definition dynamic

14:49:25 <gatemezi> Bernadette: Are we going to draft a "big picture" of the lifecycle ?

Ghislain Atemezing: A question to Bernadette: Are we going to draft a "big picture" of the lifecycle ?

14:49:37 <BernadetteLoscio> yes!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes!

14:49:42 <gatemezi> s/Bernadette/ A question to Bernadette
14:49:52 <BernadetteLoscio> It is part of our plans

Bernadette Farias Loscio: It is part of our plans

14:49:54 <BernadetteLoscio> :0

Bernadette Farias Loscio: :0

14:49:57 <BernadetteLoscio> :)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: :)

14:50:13 <hadleybeeman> q+ to draw things back to the scope: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Scope

Hadley Beeman: q+ to draw things back to the scope: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Scope

14:50:15 <yaso> annette_g:  I wanna to adress this question about data enrichnment

Annette Greiner: I wanna to adress this question about data enrichnment

14:50:36 <yaso> annette_g: surely people can reuse data

Annette Greiner: surely people can reuse data

14:50:40 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:50:42 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1 to Yaso!!!;)

Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to Yaso!!!;)

14:50:49 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

14:51:00 <MTCarrasco> Cooks often eat their own food: we must be able to read our own data in the next 25 to 50 years

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Cooks often eat their own food: we must be able to read our own data in the next 25 to 50 years

14:51:24 <cgueret> that's why we need data preservation

Christophe Gueret: that's why we need data preservation

14:51:27 <yaso> … I support doing a separate document - the question of the organization of the data lyfecycle

… I support doing a separate document - the question of the organization of the data lyfecycle

14:51:56 <cgueret> Zakim, ack me

Christophe Gueret: Zakim, ack me

14:51:56 <Zakim> unmuting cgueret

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14:51:57 <Zakim> cgueret, you wanted to discuss that data on the web is by definition dynamic

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret, you wanted to discuss that data on the web is by definition dynamic

14:51:57 <Zakim> I see annette_g, hadleybeeman, BernadetteLoscio, laufer on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see annette_g, hadleybeeman, BernadetteLoscio, laufer on the speaker queue

14:51:59 <hadleybeeman> ack annette

Hadley Beeman: ack annette

14:52:00 <yaso> .. I do think that in the organization we should be based on other that the lyfecycle

.. I do think that in the organization we should be based on other that the lyfecycle

14:52:11 <yaso> cgueret: should we take archiving in to account?

Christophe Gueret: should we take archiving in to account?

14:52:28 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

14:52:37 <yaso> hadleybeeman, should we vote it now? Can I make a proposal on this?

hadleybeeman, should we vote it now? Can I make a proposal on this?

14:52:42 <annette_g> q+ to say that archiving is a publisher function

Annette Greiner: q+ to say that archiving is a publisher function

14:53:02 <hadleybeeman> @yaso, I think we should let the queue run down first.

Hadley Beeman: @yaso, I think we should let the queue run down first.

14:53:14 <yaso> @hadleybeeman ok!

@hadleybeeman ok!

14:53:17 <hadleybeeman> (since we still have a few more minutes)

Hadley Beeman: (since we still have a few more minutes)

14:53:24 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:53:37 <cgueret> zakim, mute me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me

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14:53:37 <hadleybeeman> ack me

Hadley Beeman: ack me

14:53:38 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, you wanted to draw things back to the scope: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Scope

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14:54:33 <yaso> hadleybeeman: we can’t focus in just one group or other

Hadley Beeman: we can’t focus in just one group or other

14:54:49 <yaso> hadleybeeman: about data preservation and archiving

Hadley Beeman: about data preservation and archiving

14:55:20 <yaso> … it’s important to be aware

… it’s important to be aware

14:55:27 <hadleybeeman> ack bern

Hadley Beeman: ack bern

14:56:22 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: I’d like to know if it’s possible to have the FPWD before christmas

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I’d like to know if it’s possible to have the FPWD before christmas

14:56:58 <yaso> hadleybeeman: our next call is in january

Hadley Beeman: our next call is in january

14:57:04 <ericstephan> @annette perhaps "reuse" as Hadley suggested instead of consumer?

Eric Stephan: @annette perhaps "reuse" as Hadley suggested instead of consumer?

14:57:57 <hadleybeeman> @phila, do you want to comment on what needs to be in a FPWD?

Hadley Beeman: @phila, do you want to comment on what needs to be in a FPWD?

14:57:57 <yaso> hadleybeeman: its not clear what else is really important to do at the document to have the draft. We are going to work on the document, but we have a lot of questions to answer.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: its not clear what else is really important to do at the document to have the draft. We are going to work on the document, but we have a lot of questions to answer.

14:58:13 <hadleybeeman> s/hadleybeeman/bernadetteloscio
14:58:33 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: can we move on improving the sections that we already have, or should we work on something elsE?

Bernadette Farias Loscio: can we move on improving the sections that we already have, or should we work on something elsE?

14:59:12 <yaso> phila: I think that the document is very new, but is evolving fast

Phil Archer: I think that the document is very new, but is evolving fast

14:59:22 <MTCarrasco> Phil +1 - probably too early

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Phil +1 - probably too early

14:59:44 <yaso> … it’s possible that we could have a general resolution that over the christmas people want to take a look over it

… it’s possible that we could have a general resolution that over the christmas people want to take a look over it

14:59:54 <adler1> +1 phila

Steven Adler: +1 phila

15:00:01 <cgueret> +1

Christophe Gueret: +1

15:00:06 <adler1> well said

Steven Adler: well said

15:00:09 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

15:00:12 <AdrianoC> +1

Adriano Pereira: +1

15:00:21 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

15:00:24 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: so we are going to continue to work at the document, help is welcome, it’s really important that we continue writing

Bernadette Farias Loscio: so we are going to continue to work at the document, help is welcome, it’s really important that we continue writing

15:00:26 <annette_g> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

15:00:27 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

15:00:28 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

15:00:38 <yaso> … we can evaluate and vote for this on the next friday

… we can evaluate and vote for this on the next friday

15:00:48 <MTCarrasco> Data preservation directly related to web technologies - if we recommend only to archive static data, one has to describe the degration of the dynamic data

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Data preservation directly related to web technologies - if we recommend only to archive static data, one has to describe the degration of the dynamic data

15:01:04 <yaso> phila: I would say that at the moment we don’t have consensus on what the audience is

Phil Archer: I would say that at the moment we don’t have consensus on what the audience is

15:01:14 <yaso> … we have annette_g making a strong objection

… we have annette_g making a strong objection

15:01:21 <yaso> … so at the moment we don’t have consensus

… so at the moment we don’t have consensus

15:01:39 <yaso> +1

+1

15:01:41 <annette_g> I'm happy to continue on email

Annette Greiner: I'm happy to continue on email

15:01:50 <BernadetteLoscio> thank you!!!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: thank you!!!

15:01:50 <gatemezi> thanks all!

Ghislain Atemezing: thanks all!

15:01:51 <yaso> Thank you all!

Thank you all!

15:01:55 <ericstephan> thank you!

Eric Stephan: thank you!

15:01:56 <cgueret> thx all!

Christophe Gueret: thx all!

15:01:57 <laufer> bye all, nice wkd

Carlos Laufer: bye all, nice wkd

15:01:57 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> bye

Joao Almeida: bye

15:01:58 <CarlosIglesias> bye bye!

Carlos Iglesias: bye bye!

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15:01:59 <newton> bye all

Newton Calegari: bye all

15:02:00 <cgueret> bye

Christophe Gueret: bye

15:02:00 <Zakim> -Steve

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15:02:00 <MTCarrasco> bye

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: bye

15:02:01 <Zakim> -phila

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15:02:03 <jerdeb> bye

Jeremy Debattista: bye

15:02:03 <Zakim> - +1.510.384.aabb

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15:02:04 <RiccardoAlbertoni> thanks all!

Riccardo Albertoni: thanks all!

15:02:04 <BernadetteLoscio> bye bye!!!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: bye bye!!!

15:02:05 <Zakim> -cgueret

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15:02:05 <AdrianoC> Bye, see ya!

Adriano Pereira: Bye, see ya!

15:02:06 <Zakim> -gatemezi

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15:02:06 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

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15:02:07 <Zakim> -laufer

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15:02:08 <yaso> Bye!

Bye!

15:02:08 <Zakim> -ericstephan

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15:02:08 <Zakim> -jerdeb

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15:02:11 <Zakim> -Reinaldo

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15:02:15 <nathalia> bye

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye

15:02:21 <Zakim> -RiccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: -RiccardoAlbertoni

15:02:26 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

15:02:34 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida

15:07:34 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, cgueret, in DATA_DWBP()9:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: disconnecting the lone participant, cgueret, in DATA_DWBP()9:00AM

15:07:35 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

15:07:35 <Zakim> Attendees were phila, MTCarrasco, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.509.554.aaaa, ericstephan, cgueret, Reinaldo, Steve, +1.510.384.aabb, laufer, RiccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were phila, MTCarrasco, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.509.554.aaaa, ericstephan, cgueret, Reinaldo, Steve, +1.510.384.aabb, laufer, RiccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman,

15:07:36 <Zakim> ... AdrianoC, gatemezi, jerdeb, BernadetteLoscio, CarlosIglesias

Zakim IRC Bot: ... AdrianoC, gatemezi, jerdeb, BernadetteLoscio, CarlosIglesias



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