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Data on the Web Best Practices half-day call

Minutes of 01 December 2014

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Adriano Pereira, Annette Greiner, Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Laufer, Christophe Gueret, Deirdre Lee, Newton Calegari, Phil Archer, Yaso Córdova
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Yaso Córdova
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Annette Greiner
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  1. that we finish the meeting now link
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11:58:35 <phila> RRSAgent, make logs public

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11:58:44 <phila> zakim, room for 10?

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11:58:46 <Zakim> ok, phila; conference Team_(dwbp)11:58Z scheduled with code 3927 (DWBP) for 60 minutes until 1258Z

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12:00:22 <cgueret> Zakim, mute me

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12:00:28 <cgueret> Hello!

Christophe Gueret: Hello!

12:00:29 <phila> zakim, ipcaller is me

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12:02:46 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P3 is me again', cgueret

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12:02:48 <cgueret> zakim, ??P3 is me

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12:07:13 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller is me

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12:07:37 <laufer> zakim, mute me

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12:07:42 <Zakim> -cgueret

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12:08:04 <yaso> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141201

Yaso Córdova: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141201

12:09:37 <newton> Here is the link: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Issues_vs_BP_Document

Newton Calegari: Here is the link: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Issues_vs_BP_Document

12:10:16 <yaso> Scribe: annette_g

(Scribe set to Annette Greiner)

12:10:44 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/73

Yaso Córdova: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/73

12:11:01 <phila> issue-73?

Phil Archer: ISSUE-73?

12:11:01 <trackbot> issue-73 -- What exactly is the audience for the bp doc? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-73 -- What exactly is the audience for the bp doc? -- open

12:11:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/73

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12:11:59 <annette_g> newton: Did we have a conference about that issue?

Newton Calegari: Did we have a conference about that issue?

12:12:06 <annette_g> Yaso: Not sure

Yaso Córdova: Not sure

12:12:52 <laufer> yes

Carlos Laufer: yes

12:12:54 <newton> Are you hearing us?

Newton Calegari: Are you hearing us?

12:13:03 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

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12:13:03 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

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12:13:04 <phila> laufer:

Carlos Laufer: [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

12:13:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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12:13:31 <annette_g> Issue 74: Laufer inaudible

ISSUE-74: Laufer inaudible

12:13:40 <phila> issue-74?

Phil Archer: ISSUE-74?

12:13:41 <trackbot> issue-74 -- Is it in scope to include mention of policy framework etc. as part of the non-normative discussion/editorialisation of the bp doc -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-74 -- Is it in scope to include mention of policy framework etc. as part of the non-normative discussion/editorialisation of the bp doc -- open

12:13:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/74

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12:13:49 <Zakim> -laufer

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12:13:50 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

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12:14:07 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/82

Yaso Córdova: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/82

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12:14:15 <phila> isseu-82?

Phil Archer: isseu-82?

12:14:20 <phila> issue-82?

Phil Archer: ISSUE-82?

12:14:20 <trackbot> issue-82 -- What is the definition of a dataset? -- open

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12:14:20 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/82

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12:14:37 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller is me

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12:15:05 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

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12:15:05 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, laufer

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12:15:16 <laufer> I will try writing when necessary

Carlos Laufer: I will try writing when necessary

12:15:19 <annette_g> Laufer: garbled connection

Carlos Laufer: garbled connection

12:15:58 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

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12:16:26 <annette_g> phila:  asks will this help to finish the FPWD of the BP document

Phil Archer: asks will this help to finish the FPWD of the BP document

12:17:25 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: wonders if people are still worried about open issues or something else.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: wonders if people are still worried about open issues or something else.

12:17:34 <phila> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Best_Practices

Phil Archer: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Best_Practices

12:18:11 <annette_g> phila: are you saying that you want people to do some writing? Is that the holdup?

Phil Archer: are you saying that you want people to do some writing? Is that the holdup?

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12:19:11 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

12:19:17 <annette_g> phila: Some writing tasks are assigned to particular people, but they haven't moved forward. Is it a matter of time?

Phil Archer: Some writing tasks are assigned to particular people, but they haven't moved forward. Is it a matter of time?

12:19:38 <phila> And there's some content at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata

Phil Archer: And there's some content at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata

12:19:39 <BernadetteLoscio> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page

Bernadette Farias Loscio: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page

12:20:08 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: we have a lot of information already

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we have a lot of information already

12:20:19 <laufer> I will write my comments instead talking

Carlos Laufer: I will write my comments instead talking

12:20:19 <annette_g> phila: but what is the holdup?

Phil Archer: but what is the holdup?

12:20:31 <laufer> for me are both, phil

Carlos Laufer: for me are both, phil

12:20:57 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: working more on the document itself than in the section

Bernadette Farias Loscio: working more on the document itself than in the section

12:21:10 <annette_g> phila: is there any content on github?

Phil Archer: is there any content on github?

12:21:24 <phila> GitHub skeleton http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

Phil Archer: GitHub skeleton http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

12:22:02 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: no. we have info on the wiki, e.g. description of data formats. Editors are working on the first sections, but it's not on github yet

Bernadette Farias Loscio: no. we have info on the wiki, e.g. description of data formats. Editors are working on the first sections, but it's not on github yet

12:22:59 <annette_g> phila: If we're aiming for Dec. 18, the group has to resolve to publish on Dec.12. You've done a lot of work so far, what can we do to help you get it to the stage where everyone can approve it?

Phil Archer: If we're aiming for Dec. 18, the group has to resolve to publish on Dec.12. You've done a lot of work so far, what can we do to help you get it to the stage where everyone can approve it?

12:24:03 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: normative sections we can do. we still need to polish them. Data life cycle bit is in pretty good shape.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: non-normative sections we can do. we still need to polish them. Data life cycle bit is in pretty good shape.

12:24:19 <phila> s/normative/non-normative/
12:24:20 <annette_g> we are working to have a section by the end of the week

we are working to have a section by the end of the week

12:24:49 <annette_g> people still have to write

people still have to write

12:25:26 <annette_g> phila: the non-norrmative intro is really important. we should probably have at least a few normative best practices

Phil Archer: the non-norrmative intro is really important. we should probably have at least a few normative best practices

12:25:47 <annette_g> a FPWD without some normative content would look a bit weak

a FPWD without some normative content would look a bit weak

12:25:51 <cgueret> +1 to get some normative content before Dec 12

Christophe Gueret: +1 to get some normative content before Dec 12

12:25:59 <annette_g> yaso: not sure what best strategy is

Yaso Córdova: not sure what best strategy is

12:26:18 <annette_g> we have 7 proposed sections now, only 2 have something

we have 7 proposed sections now, only 2 have something

12:26:28 <annette_g> thanks, phila

thanks, phila

12:27:07 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: I can try to write some more normative stuff

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I can try to write some more normative stuff

12:27:19 <annette_g> …not sure if we have time for the other stuff

…not sure if we have time for the other stuff

12:27:38 <annette_g> phila: there are lots of people who can help you

Phil Archer: there are lots of people who can help you

12:28:02 <annette_g> …help from others can be spread across the doc

…help from others can be spread across the doc

12:28:43 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: would be nice to have something about metadata

Bernadette Farias Loscio: would be nice to have something about metadata

12:28:57 <annette_g> … Mackx sent a message with some good ideas last week

… Mackx sent a message with some good ideas last week

12:29:27 <annette_g> I'm doing three periods

I'm doing three periods

12:29:37 <annette_g> not sure what you're suggesting different

not sure what you're suggesting different

12:30:11 <cgueret> humm, they show up as one character here...

Christophe Gueret: humm, they show up as one character here...

12:30:54 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: we should have a deadline

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we should have a deadline

12:31:38 <annette_g> … next Thursday?

… next Thursday?

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12:32:06 <annette_g> phila: it's important that everyone has time to review

Phil Archer: it's important that everyone has time to review

12:32:55 <cgueret> +q to ask if edit priority should be given to the Wiki or github for this deadline

Christophe Gueret: +q to ask if edit priority should be given to the Wiki or github for this deadline

12:33:21 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: this Friday for initial review, revisions early next week

Bernadette Farias Loscio: this Friday for initial review, revisions early next week

12:33:35 <newton> q?

Newton Calegari: q?

12:33:36 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

12:33:39 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

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12:33:48 <laufer> May I "talk"

Carlos Laufer: May I "talk"

12:33:50 <yaso> Ack Laufer

Yaso Córdova: Ack Laufer

12:33:54 <laufer> I will write

Carlos Laufer: I will write

12:34:12 <AdrianoC> Hi, good morning!

Adriano Pereira: Hi, good morning!

12:34:15 <laufer> I still have doubts about what exactly could be a normative thing or a kind of suggestion.

Carlos Laufer: I still have doubts about what exactly could be a normative thing or a kind of suggestion.

12:34:29 <laufer> We could, for example, assert that a publisher MUST provide License metadata, MAY provide Data Quality metadata, MAY provide Provenance metadata.

Carlos Laufer: We could, for example, assert that a publisher MUST provide License metadata, MAY provide Data Quality metadata, MAY provide Provenance metadata.

12:34:47 <laufer> We can suggest, or provide examples, about Licenses types, etc.

Carlos Laufer: We can suggest, or provide examples, about Licenses types, etc.

12:35:00 <laufer> Another issue is about how to provide these metadata, how to catalog these information. I think we are agreeing that should be information that DCAT defines.

Carlos Laufer: Another issue is about how to provide these metadata, how to catalog these information. I think we are agreeing that should be information that DCAT defines.

12:35:19 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

12:35:37 <laufer> Go on

Carlos Laufer: Go on

12:35:50 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: I didn't understand

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I didn't understand

12:36:00 <laufer> I think that a normative thing is a storn thing

Carlos Laufer: I think that a normative thing is a strong thing

12:36:03 <laufer> strong

Carlos Laufer: strong

12:36:12 <newton> s/storn/strong
12:36:34 <annette_g> phila: "must" has a specific meaning, "may" has another, "should" has another

Phil Archer: "must" has a specific meaning, "may" has another, "should" has another

12:36:36 <BernadetteLoscio> we have some examples about BP: http://www.w3.org/TR/xmldsig-bestpractices/

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we have some examples about BP: http://www.w3.org/TR/xmldsig-bestpractices/

12:37:03 <annette_g> …we're going to talk about the intentions

…we're going to talk about the intentions

12:37:18 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

12:37:23 <annette_g> …then provide RFC 2219 "must" etc

…then provide RFC 2219 "must" etc

12:37:24 <cgueret> +1

Christophe Gueret: +1

12:37:26 <laufer> Bernadette, we have different best practices documents

Carlos Laufer: Bernadette, we have different best practices documents

12:37:35 <yaso> ack cgueret

Yaso Córdova: ack cgueret

12:37:35 <Zakim> cgueret, you wanted to ask if edit priority should be given to the Wiki or github for this deadline

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12:38:01 <annette_g> cgueret: considering short time remaining, should we contribute on github or wiki?

Christophe Gueret: considering short time remaining, should we contribute on github or wiki?

12:38:04 <yaso> ack BernadetteLoscio

Yaso Córdova: ack BernadetteLoscio

12:38:27 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: write directly on github if you're comfortable with it, use the wiki if you're more comfortable on that

Bernadette Farias Loscio: write directly on github if you're comfortable with it, use the wiki if you're more comfortable on that

12:38:35 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

12:38:51 <phila> If you write in the wiki, someone still has to transfer it to GitHub. So you save someone the task of transferring if you do it straight on GH

Phil Archer: If you write in the wiki, someone still has to transfer it to GitHub. So you save someone the task of transferring if you do it straight on GH

12:39:22 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: I understand Laufer's doubt, but we need to just try to write first so that we have something concrete to discuss

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I understand Laufer's doubt, but we need to just try to write first so that we have something concrete to discuss

12:40:04 <annette_g> …we should start really doing things, so I propose you just try to write

…we should start really doing things, so I propose you just try to write

12:40:40 <laufer> I agree. I am only exposing what are the doubts about the "granularity" of our recommendations, or suggestions...

Carlos Laufer: I agree. I am only exposing what are the doubts about the "granularity" of our recommendations, or suggestions...

12:40:53 <annette_g> … when we writie a BP about metadata, try to give at least one or two examples of what would be a best practice

… when we writie a BP about metadata, try to give at least one or two examples of what would be a best practice

12:40:57 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

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12:41:01 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

12:41:05 <phila> +1 to BernadetteLoscio

Phil Archer: +1 to BernadetteLoscio

12:42:03 <annette_g> yaso: do we want to continue working for 2 hours, or work offline?

Yaso Córdova: do we want to continue working for 2 hours, or work offline?

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12:42:25 <laufer> I think that there is a strong polarization in the cataloging view of the process

Carlos Laufer: I think that there is a strong polarization in the cataloging view of the process

12:42:36 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: not sure

Bernadette Farias Loscio: not sure

12:42:56 <annette_g> …do we have something to discuss now?

…do we have something to discuss now?

12:43:06 <annette_g> …data versioning is going on by mail

…data versioning is going on by mail

12:43:11 <yaso> Should we continue working now, or should we work offline, with people working with the editors if they have any question or something like this

Yaso Córdova: Should we continue working now, or should we work offline, with people working with the editors if they have any question or something like this

12:44:10 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: for the next year, we should have meetings that are more focused

Bernadette Farias Loscio: for the next year, we should have meetings that are more focused

12:44:21 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

12:44:29 <annette_g> …for today, what do people want to discuss?

…for today, what do people want to discuss?

12:44:38 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

12:44:50 <yaso> ack laufer

Yaso Córdova: ack laufer

12:45:01 <laufer> I think that we need a discussion abou the phases

Carlos Laufer: I think that we need a discussion abou the phases

12:45:02 <annette_g> laufer: do you want to speak or write?

Carlos Laufer: do you want to speak or write?

12:45:15 <laufer> the lifecycle

Carlos Laufer: the lifecycle

12:45:42 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: will send a message to the group, but it's important that everyone keep in mind that we have a deadline

Bernadette Farias Loscio: will send a message to the group, but it's important that everyone keep in mind that we have a deadline

12:46:08 <laufer> so, how the phase of publishing apeears in aour documents, as metadata that are provided during the catalog phase

Carlos Laufer: so, how the phase of publishing apeears in aour documents, as metadata that are provided during the catalog phase

12:46:13 <annette_g> it's a huge work and we have a big group, so everyone needs to collaborate

it's a huge work and we have a big group, so everyone needs to collaborate

12:46:39 <annette_g> everyone should feel free to write

everyone should feel free to write

12:47:11 <annette_g> q+

q+

12:47:20 <annette_g> yaso: thank you

Yaso Córdova: thank you

12:47:43 <annette_g> …sorry, Laufer

…sorry, Laufer

12:47:49 <phila> q?

Phil Archer: q?

12:47:57 <laufer> I thinks is very important to wite abou the data lifecycle

Carlos Laufer: I thinks is very important to wite abou the data lifecycle

12:48:03 <laufer> think

Carlos Laufer: think

12:48:22 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: a few months ago I did some work on the lifecycle

Bernadette Farias Loscio: a few months ago I did some work on the lifecycle

12:49:02 <BernadetteLoscio> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_Life_Cycle

Bernadette Farias Loscio: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_Life_Cycle

12:49:14 <laufer> because we have different user´s roles that will be responsible for each phase

Carlos Laufer: because we have different user´s roles that will be responsible for each phase

12:49:40 <phila> I'll read through that on the plane later today :-)

Phil Archer: I'll read through that on the plane later today :-)

12:49:41 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: on Thursday we'll have something more concrete to discuss, different roles, publishers and consumers

Bernadette Farias Loscio: on Thursday we'll have something more concrete to discuss, different roles, publishers and consumers

12:49:49 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

12:50:10 <laufer> I agree with your idea of the lifecycle

Carlos Laufer: I agree with your idea of the lifecycle

12:50:17 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: I'm now improving the definitions

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I'm now improving the definitions

12:50:23 <yaso> Ack annette_g

Yaso Córdova: Ack annette_g

12:50:43 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

12:51:26 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

12:51:28 <phila> annette_g: It would be helpful if the editors could indicate the parts of the doc that they are particularly looking for help with

Annette Greiner: It would be helpful if the editors could indicate the parts of the doc that they are particularly looking for help with [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

12:51:32 <newton> annette_g https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Best_Practices

Newton Calegari: annette_g https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Best_Practices

12:51:33 <annette_g> annette_g: is there a way editors can indicate parts they want help with?

Annette Greiner: is there a way editors can indicate parts they want help with?

12:51:37 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Mabe you can help us with...

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Mabe you can help us with... [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

12:51:43 <BernadetteLoscio> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Table_of_Contents_of_Data_on_the_Web_Best_Practices

Bernadette Farias Loscio: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Table_of_Contents_of_Data_on_the_Web_Best_Practices

12:52:33 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: and we need contributions in red. But on the main page we already have some contributors

Bernadette Farias Loscio: and we need contributions in red. But on the main page we already have some contributors [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

12:53:08 <phila> ... you can help in one of the normative sections. For e.g. if you want to talk about metadata, or you can help in the non-normative section

Phil Archer: ... you can help in one of the normative sections. For e.g. if you want to talk about metadata, or you can help in the non-normative section

12:53:12 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: if you want to work on normative, you can work on metadata.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: if you want to work on normative, you can work on metadata.

12:53:24 <phila> ... so it depends where you feel most comfortable contributing

Phil Archer: ... so it depends where you feel most comfortable contributing

12:53:54 <annette_g> … you can work with Laufer and give another point of view

… you can work with Laufer and give another point of view

12:54:36 <annette_g> … e.g., what would be the best way to describe the best way to use metadata

… e.g., what would be the best way to describe the best way to use metadata

12:54:40 <annette_g> annette: okay

Annette Greiner: okay

12:54:58 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: you can also review non-normative sections

Bernadette Farias Loscio: you can also review non-normative sections

12:55:07 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

12:55:16 <annette_g> annette_g: great, thank you

Annette Greiner: great, thank you

12:55:30 <annette_g> yaso: I propose we finish the meeting now, work offline

Yaso Córdova: I propose we finish the meeting now, work offline

12:55:43 <annette_g> …editors can appoint someone to work with them

…editors can appoint someone to work with them

12:55:53 <cgueret> +1

Christophe Gueret: +1

12:55:58 <annette_g> proposed: that we finish the meeting now

PROPOSED: that we finish the meeting now

12:56:06 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

12:56:11 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

12:56:13 <annette_g> PROPOSED: that we finish the meeting now

PROPOSED: that we finish the meeting now

12:56:19 <annette_g> +1

+1

12:56:22 <cgueret> +1

Christophe Gueret: +1

12:56:26 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

12:56:42 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

12:57:03 <BernadetteLoscio> +1

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1

12:57:11 <cgueret> let's go write! ^_^

Christophe Gueret: let's go write! ^_^

12:57:11 <annette_g> RESOLVED: that we finish the meeting now

RESOLVED: that we finish the meeting now

12:57:12 <laufer> bye, sorry about my connection problems

Carlos Laufer: bye, sorry about my connection problems

12:57:22 <yaso> Bye!

Yaso Córdova: Bye!

12:57:27 <cgueret> bye

Christophe Gueret: bye

12:57:36 <Zakim> -Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yaso

12:57:37 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer

12:57:37 <Zakim> -phila

Zakim IRC Bot: -phila

12:57:37 <annette_g> phila: thanks annette for scribing

Phil Archer: thanks annette for scribing

12:57:38 <Zakim> -deirdrelee

Zakim IRC Bot: -deirdrelee

12:57:40 <annette_g> bye!

bye!

12:57:44 <newton> bye!

Newton Calegari: bye!

12:57:44 <Zakim> -cgueret

Zakim IRC Bot: -cgueret

12:57:45 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

12:57:45 <Zakim> -annette_g

Zakim IRC Bot: -annette_g

12:57:46 <Zakim> Team_(dwbp)11:58Z has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: Team_(dwbp)11:58Z has ended

12:57:46 <Zakim> Attendees were deirdrelee, annette_g, cgueret, phila, Yaso, laufer, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were deirdrelee, annette_g, cgueret, phila, Yaso, laufer, BernadetteLoscio

12:57:53 <phila> zakim, list participants

Phil Archer: zakim, list participants

12:57:53 <Zakim> sorry, phila, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, phila, I don't know what conference this is

12:58:05 <phila> zakim, bye

Phil Archer: zakim, bye

12:58:21 <annette_g> rrsagent, generate minutes

rrsagent, generate minutes

12:58:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/01-dwbp-minutes.html annette_g

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/01-dwbp-minutes.html annette_g

13:03:44 <annette_g> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices half-day call
13:04:00 <annette_g> Chair: Yaso
13:09:59 <annette_g> rrsagent, generate minutes

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rrsagent, generate minutes

13:09:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/01-dwbp-minutes.html annette_g

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13:13:30 <annette_g> RRSAgent, make chat logs public

RRSAgent, make chat logs public

13:13:30 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make chat logs public', annette_g.  Try /msg RRSAgent help

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13:13:53 <annette_g> RRSAgent, make logs public

RRSAgent, make logs public

13:14:35 <annette_g> anybody know how to correct the title after the fact?

anybody know how to correct the title after the fact?

13:15:57 <annette_g> chair: yaso
13:16:13 <annette_g> meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices half-day call


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