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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 28 November 2014

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Adriano Pereira, Annette Greiner, Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Iglesias, Caroline Burle, Ghislain Atemezing, Jeremy Debattista, Makx Dekkers, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício, Newton Calegari, Riccardo Albertoni, Yaso Córdova
Chair
Yaso Córdova
Scribe
Caroline Burle
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. approve last week's meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-21 link
  2. close the issue http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69 link
  3. close the issue http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69 link
Topics
13:55:16 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/11/28-dwbp-irc

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13:55:20 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

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13:55:21 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:55:21 <trackbot> Date: 28 November 2014
13:55:53 <yaso> zakim, this will be dwbp

Yaso Córdova: zakim, this will be dwbp

13:55:53 <Zakim> ok, yaso; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes

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13:58:32 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

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13:58:39 <Zakim> +Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso

13:58:55 <newton> Zakim, yaso has Caroline_, newton

Newton Calegari: Zakim, yaso has Caroline_, newton

13:58:55 <Zakim> +Caroline_, newton; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline_, newton; got it

13:59:02 <newton> Zakim, yaso has Caroline_ and newton

Newton Calegari: Zakim, yaso has Caroline_ and newton

13:59:02 <Zakim> Caroline_ was already listed in Yaso, newton

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_ was already listed in Yaso, newton

13:59:03 <Zakim> newton was already listed in Yaso, newton

Zakim IRC Bot: newton was already listed in Yaso, newton

14:00:37 <Caroline_> Hello!

Caroline Burle: Hello!

14:02:11 <Zakim> +??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1

14:02:39 <yaso> ??P1 is MTCarrasco

Yaso Córdova: ??P1 is MTCarrasco

14:02:50 <yaso> Zakim, ??P1 is MTCarrasco

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, ??P1 is MTCarrasco

14:02:50 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it

14:03:33 <Zakim> +??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2

14:03:53 <AdrianoC> Zakim, ??P2 is AdrianoC

Adriano Pereira: Zakim, ??P2 is AdrianoC

14:03:53 <Zakim> +AdrianoC; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AdrianoC; got it

14:04:48 <AdrianoC> Hello Everybody!

Adriano Pereira: Hello Everybody!

14:04:52 <yaso> Hi!

Yaso Córdova: Hi!

14:05:35 <AdrianoC> Ok!

Adriano Pereira: Ok!

14:06:07 <yaso> Any volunteer to scribe?

Yaso Córdova: Any volunteer to scribe?

14:06:31 <yaso> Zakim, pick a victim

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, pick a victim

14:06:31 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose newton

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose newton

14:06:38 <yaso> Chair: yaso
14:06:55 <yaso> scribe: Caroline_

(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)

14:07:19 <yaso> Zakim, yaso has Nathalia

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, yaso has Nathalia

14:07:19 <Zakim> +Nathalia; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Nathalia; got it

14:07:48 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-21

Yaso Córdova: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-21

14:08:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:08:25 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

14:08:25 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

14:08:52 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is talking?

Zakim, who is talking?

14:08:56 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:08:56 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

14:08:56 <yaso> Zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:08:57 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was already muted, yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was already muted, yaso

14:08:57 <gatemezi> +0 .I was not present, so nothing to say ...

Ghislain Atemezing: +0 .I was not present, so nothing to say ...

14:09:03 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yaso (33%), MTCarrasco (14%), BernadetteLoscio (25%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yaso (33%), MTCarrasco (14%), BernadetteLoscio (25%)

14:09:08 <yaso> ok~

Yaso Córdova: ok~

14:09:09 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

14:09:13 <nathalia> 0

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: 0

14:09:15 <Caroline_> PROPOSED: approve last week's meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-21

PROPOSED: approve last week's meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-21

14:09:19 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

14:09:19 <Caroline_> +1

+1

14:09:20 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:09:23 <AdrianoC> +1

Adriano Pereira: +1

14:09:35 <Zakim> +annette_g

Zakim IRC Bot: +annette_g

14:09:43 <Caroline_> Zakim: who is speaking?

Zakim IRC Bot: who is speaking?

14:10:27 <Caroline_> RESOLVED: approve last week's meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-21

RESOLVED: approve last week's meeting http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-11-21

14:11:00 <Caroline_> yaso: there was a discussion on the deadlines of the BP document

Yaso Córdova: there was a discussion on the deadlines of the BP document

14:11:23 <BernadetteLoscio> not just the editors, but also some contributors :)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: not just the editors, but also some contributors :)

14:11:40 <Caroline_> ... the chairs agreed that the fisrt draft should be released before Christmans

... the chairs agreed that the fisrt draft should be released before Christmans

14:11:56 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/114

Yaso Córdova: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/114

14:11:57 <Caroline_> ... let's talk about the actions

... let's talk about the actions

14:12:25 <Caroline_> ... the first one to talk about is Action 114, which Adriano will talk about

... the first one to talk about is ACTION-114, which Adriano will talk about

14:12:41 <Caroline_> AdrianoC: we have discussed aobut data enrichment process

Adriano Pereira: we have discussed aobut data enrichment process

14:12:50 <Caroline_> ... I have talked with BernadetteLoscio during TPAC

... I have talked with BernadetteLoscio during TPAC

14:13:09 <Caroline_> ... we will describe a new use case aobut the Observatory

... we will describe a new use case aobut the Observatory

14:13:37 <Caroline_> ... the idea is that publishing this new use case we will have content for data enrichment requirement

... the idea is that publishing this new use case we will have content for data enrichment requirement

14:13:38 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aaaa

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14:14:12 <Caroline_> ... we will be able to publish the new requirement on on the BP document

... we will be able to publish the new requirement on on the BP document

14:14:28 <Caroline_> yaso: do you have a data to publish this use case

Yaso Córdova: do you have a data to publish this use case

14:14:36 <Zakim> +??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6

14:14:36 <Caroline_> AdrianoC: we will publish it next week

Adriano Pereira: we will publish it next week

14:14:46 <gatemezi> Zakim, +33.4.93.00.aaaa is me

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, +33.4.93.00.aaaa is me

14:14:46 <Zakim> +gatemezi; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +gatemezi; got it

14:14:47 <Caroline_> ... and the new document about data enrichment

... and the new document about data enrichment

14:15:09 <Zakim> -??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P6

14:15:30 <Zakim> + +39.349.096.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +39.349.096.aabb

14:15:49 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:15:57 <Caroline_> yaso: can you explain more about this use case?

Yaso Córdova: can you explain more about this use case?

14:16:19 <Caroline_> AdrianoC: it is about an app on the Observatory of the University

Adriano Pereira: it is about an app on the Observatory of the University

14:16:25 <RiccardoAlbertoni> zakim, +39.349.096.aabb is RiccardoAlbertoni

Riccardo Albertoni: zakim, +39.349.096.aabb is RiccardoAlbertoni

14:16:25 <Zakim> +RiccardoAlbertoni; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +RiccardoAlbertoni; got it

14:16:28 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:16:35 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Sorry, If I am in late ..

Riccardo Albertoni: Sorry, If I am in late ..

14:16:37 <Caroline_> ... the app is about data enrichment tests that we are providing

... the app is about data enrichment tests that we are providing

14:16:38 <Zakim> +??P7

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P7

14:16:48 <yaso> No problem, Riccardo :-)

Yaso Córdova: No problem, Riccardo :-)

14:16:49 <jerdeb_> Zakim, ??P7 is me

Jeremy Debattista: Zakim, ??P7 is me

14:16:49 <Zakim> +jerdeb_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb_; got it

14:16:50 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:16:57 <BernadetteLoscio> I think it should be in the 2nd round

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think it should be in the 2nd round

14:17:04 <Caroline_> ... second round

... second round

14:17:21 <Caroline_> yaso: is it about data on social network?

Yaso Córdova: is it about data on social network?

14:17:23 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:17:34 <Caroline_> ... data enrichment on data network?

... data enrichment on data network?

14:17:48 <Caroline_> AdrianoC: the use case is the aplication on the Web Observatory

Adriano Pereira: the use case is the aplication on the Web Observatory

14:17:52 <RiccardoAlbertoni> OK thanks

Riccardo Albertoni: OK thanks

14:18:03 <Caroline_> ... it can be used for a desease, sports, etc

... it can be used for a desease, sports, etc

14:18:15 <gatemezi> q+ to ask for a small description of Adriano UC on the wiki

Ghislain Atemezing: q+ to ask for a small description of Adriano UC on the wiki

14:18:15 <Caroline_> ... the Web Observatory will demand data enrichment test

... the Web Observatory will demand data enrichment test

14:18:16 <yaso> Ack Annete-g

Yaso Córdova: Ack Annete-g

14:18:23 <yaso> ack Annete_g

Yaso Córdova: ack Annete_g

14:18:41 <Caroline_> annette_g: What is meant by data enrichment?

Annette Greiner: What is meant by data enrichment?

14:19:13 <Caroline_> AdrianoC: the idea of emphasing data enrichment is

Adriano Pereira: the idea of emphasing data enrichment is

14:19:27 <gatemezi> Data enrichment is the process of reconciling different datasets in a common model, such as RDF

Ghislain Atemezing: Data enrichment is the process of reconciling different datasets in a common model, such as RDF

14:19:38 <Caroline_> ... since there are many data published, it is needed to process and apply specific tests to enrich the data

... since there are many data published, it is needed to process and apply specific tests to enrich the data

14:19:45 <Caroline_> ... e.g. data segmentation

... e.g. data segmentation

14:20:00 <BernadetteLoscio> q-

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q-

14:20:04 <Caroline_> ... the idea is to enrich this data to provide more value to the user app

... the idea is to enrich this data to provide more value to the user app

14:20:15 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:20:33 <yaso> ack annete_g

Yaso Córdova: ack annete_g

14:20:52 <Caroline_> ... one more point about data enrichment is that we try to define different tests

... one more point about data enrichment is that we try to define different tests

14:21:04 <Caroline_> ... there is the raw data that we collect from the web

... there is the raw data that we collect from the web

14:21:07 <gatemezi> q-

Ghislain Atemezing: q-

14:21:14 <annette_g> q-

Annette Greiner: q-

14:21:49 <Caroline_> ... there are different tests that can be performed to add value to the data

... there are different tests that can be performed to add value to the data

14:22:05 <yaso> Ack gatemezi

Yaso Córdova: Ack gatemezi

14:22:05 <gatemezi> Zakim, unmute me

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, unmute me

14:22:06 <Zakim> gatemezi was not muted, gatemezi

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14:22:19 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:23:04 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:23:04 <Caroline_> gatemezi: AdrianoC, could you put the use case detailed on the wiki

Ghislain Atemezing: AdrianoC, could you put the use case detailed on the wiki

14:23:11 <Caroline_> AdrianoC: yes!

Adriano Pereira: yes!

14:23:35 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:23:35 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

14:23:39 <yaso> ack BernadetteLoscio

Yaso Córdova: ack BernadetteLoscio

14:23:53 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:24:04 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: I want to clarify that they will put the use case on data enrichment and that may be used on the BP

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I want to clarify that they will put the use case on data enrichment and that may be used on the BP

14:24:13 <MakxDekkers> zakim, ipcaller is me

Makx Dekkers: zakim, ipcaller is me

14:24:13 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MakxDekkers; got it

14:24:20 <Caroline_> ... if it is okay by the group, we may add it on the BP document

... if it is okay by the group, we may add it on the BP document

14:24:21 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:24:22 <AdrianoC> Ok, perfect!

Adriano Pereira: Ok, perfect!

14:24:32 <gatemezi> Zakim, who is here ?

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, who is here ?

14:24:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see Yaso, MTCarrasco, AdrianoC, BernadetteLoscio, annette_g, gatemezi, RiccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb_, MakxDekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Yaso, MTCarrasco, AdrianoC, BernadetteLoscio, annette_g, gatemezi, RiccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb_, MakxDekkers

14:24:35 <Zakim> Yaso has Nathalia

Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has Nathalia

14:24:35 <Zakim> On IRC I see MakxDekkers, jerdeb_, RiccardoAlbertoni, annette_g, nathalia, BernadetteLoscio, gatemezi, AdrianoC, MTCarrasco, Zakim, RRSAgent, Caroline_, yaso, newton, rhiaro,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see MakxDekkers, jerdeb_, RiccardoAlbertoni, annette_g, nathalia, BernadetteLoscio, gatemezi, AdrianoC, MTCarrasco, Zakim, RRSAgent, Caroline_, yaso, newton, rhiaro,

14:24:35 <Zakim> ... hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... hadleybeeman, sandro, trackbot

14:24:56 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:24:56 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

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14:25:06 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/125

Yaso Córdova: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/125

14:25:16 <Caroline_> +1 to use the data enrichment use case on the BP document

+1 to use the data enrichment use case on the BP document

14:25:38 <Caroline_> newton: the action 125 is about the dataset versioning

Newton Calegari: the ACTION-125 is about the dataset versioning

14:25:52 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:25:52 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

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14:26:01 <newton> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

Newton Calegari: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

14:26:02 <Caroline_> ... I am not sure if we should include it on the BP document. Maybe BernadetteLoscio could hlep me to clarify that

... I am not sure if we should include it on the BP document. Maybe BernadetteLoscio could hlep me to clarify that

14:26:08 <gatemezi> q+ to ask what is the difference with issue 69

Ghislain Atemezing: q+ to ask what is the difference with ISSUE-69

14:26:13 <AdrianoC> I agree with Bernadette: +1 (data enrichment)

Adriano Pereira: I agree with Bernadette: +1 (data enrichment)

14:26:18 <Caroline_> s/125s/69

s/125s/69 (warning: replacement failed)

14:26:24 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

14:26:31 <gatemezi> q-

Ghislain Atemezing: q-

14:26:54 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: we had some discussions by email about dataset versioning

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we had some discussions by email about dataset versioning

14:27:17 <Caroline_> ... we were discussing about having different versions of datasets

... we were discussing about having different versions of datasets

14:27:31 <Caroline_> ... how can we have different verions of datasets

... how can we have different versions of datasets

14:27:44 <gatemezi> s/verions/versions
14:27:51 <Caroline_> ... also the question about metadata to discuss versions

... also the question about metadata to discuss versions

14:27:58 <annette_g> +1 for including versioning

Annette Greiner: +1 for including versioning

14:28:12 <AdrianoC> +1

Adriano Pereira: +1

14:28:13 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

14:28:16 <Caroline_> ... I think we should have both to describe versioning medata and indetify it

... I think we should have both to describe versioning medata and indetify it

14:28:19 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:28:20 <Caroline_> +1 to BernadetteLoscio

+1 to BernadetteLoscio

14:28:33 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:28:33 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

14:28:47 <Caroline_> newton: Flavio and I we will write it

Newton Calegari: Flavio and I we will write it

14:28:47 <BernadetteLoscio> noy yet

Bernadette Farias Loscio: noy yet

14:28:55 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:28:56 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:28:59 <yaso> Ack MTCarrasco

Yaso Córdova: Ack MTCarrasco

14:29:00 <Caroline_> ... the draft about versioning considering the new use cases

... the draft about versioning considering the new use cases

14:29:17 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

Yaso Córdova: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

14:29:44 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: version is one of metadata resource

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: version is one of metadata resource

14:29:45 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:29:49 <yaso> ack BernadetteLoscio

Yaso Córdova: ack BernadetteLoscio

14:29:54 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:29:54 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

14:30:22 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: we agree that we should talk about ite

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we agree that we should talk about iteme

14:30:26 <MTCarrasco> resource version covers more: db - table - record - field

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: resource version covers more: db - table - record - field

14:30:37 <gatemezi> s/it/item
14:30:45 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: you have ontology and the content of ontolongy

Bernadette Farias Loscio: you have ontology and the content of ontolongy

14:31:15 <Caroline_> ... the identifier of the content shouldn't change if the version change, but the identifier of the collect should change

... the identifier of the content shouldn't change if the version change, but the identifier of the collect should change

14:31:24 <Caroline_> ... I think is too soon to close this issue

... I think is too soon to close this issue

14:31:28 <gatemezi> q+

Ghislain Atemezing: q+

14:31:33 <yaso> Ack gatemezi

Yaso Córdova: Ack gatemezi

14:31:33 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:31:34 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

14:31:52 <yaso> +1 to gatemezi

Yaso Córdova: +1 to gatemezi

14:31:57 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: the point is that we agree to add versioning on the BP document

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the point is that we agree to add versioning on the BP document

14:32:01 <Caroline_> +1

+1

14:32:12 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1 to gatemezi

Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to gatemezi

14:32:12 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:32:16 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:32:17 <AdrianoC> +1

Adriano Pereira: +1

14:32:36 <Caroline_> yaso: we may agree that we want to talk about versioning on the BP document

Yaso Córdova: we may agree that we want to talk about versioning on the BP document

14:32:44 <newton> q+ to ask if do we need to put content related to Resource Versioning on Data Versioning section or it should be added to Data Identification section

Newton Calegari: q+ to ask if do we need to put content related to Resource Versioning on Data Versioning section or it should be added to Data Identification section

14:32:45 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:32:50 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: we should not put label on it

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: we should not put label on it

14:32:50 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:32:50 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

14:33:00 <yaso> ack BernadetteLoscio

Yaso Córdova: ack BernadetteLoscio

14:33:31 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: the issue is about to include versioning on the document, so maybe we can close it and open another one on how to descibe it

Bernadette Farias Loscio: the issue is about to include versioning on the document, so maybe we can close it and open another one on how to descibe it

14:33:53 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

Yaso Córdova: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

14:33:53 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:33:53 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

14:34:01 <Caroline_> PROPOSED: close the issue http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

PROPOSED: close the issue http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

14:34:04 <Caroline_> +1

+1

14:34:05 <gatemezi> q?

Ghislain Atemezing: q?

14:34:07 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

14:34:08 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

14:34:08 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:34:11 <annette_g> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

14:34:12 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:34:13 <nathalia> +1

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: +1

14:34:14 <BernadetteLoscio> +1

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1

14:34:17 <AdrianoC> +1

Adriano Pereira: +1

14:34:24 <Caroline_> RESOLVED: close the issue http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

RESOLVED: close the issue http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

14:34:27 <yaso> we agree that we want to speak about data versioning

Yaso Córdova: we agree that we want to speak about data versioning

14:34:28 <MTCarrasco> +1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: +1

14:34:30 <jerdeb_> +1

Jeremy Debattista: +1

14:34:39 <Caroline_> RESOLVED: close the issue http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

RESOLVED: close the issue http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

14:34:43 <Zakim> -RiccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: -RiccardoAlbertoni

14:34:59 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:35:00 <Caroline_> gatemezi: the issue 125 is similar

Ghislain Atemezing: the ISSUE-125 is similar

14:35:15 <Zakim> +RiccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: +RiccardoAlbertoni

14:35:38 <newton> q-

Newton Calegari: q-

14:35:39 <Caroline_> yaso: we should open an action for MTCarrasco and BernadetteLoscio

Yaso Córdova: we should open an action for MTCarrasco and BernadetteLoscio

14:35:40 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:35:53 <BernadetteLoscio> q-

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q-

14:36:06 <gatemezi> q + are we closing issue 125 ?

Ghislain Atemezing: q + are we closing ISSUE-125 ?

14:36:12 <Caroline_> ACTION: MTCarrasco will write about resource version

ACTION: MTCarrasco will write about resource version

14:36:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-131 - Will write about resource version [on Manuel Tomas Carrasco Benitez - due 2014-12-05].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-131 - Will write about resource version [on Manuel Tomas Carrasco Benitez - due 2014-12-05].

14:36:22 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:36:28 <yaso> ack gatemezi

Yaso Córdova: ack gatemezi

14:36:33 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:36:35 <Caroline_> gatemezi: are we closing the issue 125?

Ghislain Atemezing: are we closing the ISSUE-125?

14:36:41 <Caroline_> yaso: yes

Yaso Córdova: yes

14:36:53 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, IPcaller is me

Carlos Iglesias: zakim, IPcaller is me

14:36:53 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it

14:37:19 <Caroline_> newton: we don't have an issue 125, we have an action 125

Newton Calegari: we don't have an ISSUE-125, we have an ACTION-125

14:37:19 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:37:33 <Caroline_> PROPOSED: close the action 125

PROPOSED: close the ACTION-125

14:37:47 <Caroline_> q+

q+

14:37:55 <yaso> Ack BernadetteLoscio

Yaso Córdova: Ack BernadetteLoscio

14:37:59 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:37:59 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

14:38:01 <gatemezi> sorry with the confusion, between issue and action

Ghislain Atemezing: sorry with the confusion, between issue and action

14:38:10 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: we should discuss a litle bit more

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we should discuss a litle bit more

14:38:17 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:38:19 <Caroline_> ... we have a discussion going on by email now

... we have a discussion going on by email now

14:38:26 <Caroline_> +1 to BernadetteLoscio

+1 to BernadetteLoscio

14:38:36 <yaso>  gatemezi I confused myself too :-)

Yaso Córdova: gatemezi I confused myself too :-)

14:38:42 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:38:54 <Caroline_> ... we should have more discussion about it and then create an action for it

... we should have more discussion about it and then create an action for it

14:39:08 <yaso> Ack Caroline_

Yaso Córdova: Ack Caroline_

14:39:43 <gatemezi> can we merge two actions with Zakim ?

Ghislain Atemezing: can we merge two actions with Zakim ?

14:39:54 <newton> Caroline_: we can keep the action 125 open and keep the discussion on mail list

Caroline Burle: we can keep the ACTION-125 open and keep the discussion on mail list [ Scribe Assist by Newton Calegari ]

14:40:13 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: we could continue the discussion on the list

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: we could continue the discussion on the list

14:40:23 <BernadetteLoscio> he is talking about 131

Bernadette Farias Loscio: he is talking about 131

14:40:29 <gatemezi> Zakim, can you merge two actions?

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, can you merge two actions?

14:40:29 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, gatemezi.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, gatemezi.

14:40:35 <Caroline_> ... we could suggest that we are discussing on data versioning

... we could suggest that we are discussing on data versioning

14:40:51 <Caroline_> yaso: I will send an email to the list

Yaso Córdova: I will send an email to the list

14:41:02 <Caroline_> ... newton is proposing that we don't close the action 125

... newton is proposing that we don't close the ACTION-125

14:41:11 <Caroline_> ... and continue the discussion on the list

... and continue the discussion on the list

14:41:16 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is speaking?

Zakim, who is speaking?

14:41:28 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:41:28 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

14:41:28 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is speaking?

Zakim, who is speaking?

14:41:29 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yaso (4%), MTCarrasco (10%), BernadetteLoscio (56%), RiccardoAlbertoni (4%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yaso (4%), MTCarrasco (10%), BernadetteLoscio (56%), RiccardoAlbertoni (4%)

14:41:40 <yaso> Zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:41:40 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was already muted, yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was already muted, yaso

14:41:42 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yaso (23%), gatemezi (4%), MakxDekkers (11%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: Yaso (23%), gatemezi (4%), MakxDekkers (11%)

14:41:59 <newton> I guess we have to kinds of "versioning" to discuss: Dataset Versioning and Resource Versioning. Isn't?

Newton Calegari: I guess we have to kinds of "versioning" to discuss: Dataset Versioning and Resource Versioning. Isn't?

14:42:02 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:42:13 <Caroline_> +1 to newton

+1 to newton

14:42:15 <yaso> Ack annette_g

Yaso Córdova: Ack annette_g

14:42:45 <Caroline_> annette_g: maybe we should go to the list and find out who is talking on what

Annette Greiner: maybe we should go to the list and find out who is talking on what

14:43:05 <Caroline_> ... there is quite a few issues being discussed

... there is quite a few issues being discussed

14:43:07 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/94

Yaso Córdova: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/94

14:43:11 <BernadetteLoscio> can we discuss ACTION-126?

Bernadette Farias Loscio: can we discuss ACTION-126?

14:43:14 <Caroline_> yaso: regarding the issue 94

Yaso Córdova: regarding the ISSUE-94

14:43:22 <BernadetteLoscio> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/126

Bernadette Farias Loscio: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/126

14:43:28 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:43:29 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:43:38 <Caroline_> ... we can talk about data versioning on the mailing list

... we can talk about data versioning on the mailing list

14:43:39 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:43:39 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

14:43:47 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: about action 126

Bernadette Farias Loscio: about ACTION-126

14:44:23 <Caroline_> ... It is about how are we going to organize the BP document, which we have discussed on the F2F

... It is about how are we going to organize the BP document, which we have discussed on the F2F

14:45:09 <newton> COMURI document

Newton Calegari: COMURI document

14:45:19 <Caroline_> ... this action it to discuss with MTCarrasco of how are we going to combine the document he has done on URI with the BP document

... this action it to discuss with MTCarrasco of how are we going to combine the document he has done on URI with the BP document

14:45:27 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: I would not put it inside the BP document

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I would not put it inside the BP document

14:45:38 <Caroline_> ... the best it to separate the document

... the best it to separate the document

14:45:58 <MTCarrasco> http://dragoman.org/comuri.html

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://dragoman.org/comuri.html

14:46:19 <MTCarrasco> http://dragoman.org/deuri.html

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://dragoman.org/deuri.html

14:46:34 <Caroline_> ... we are woking on it http://dragoman.org/deuri.html separately

... we are woking on it http://dragoman.org/deuri.html separately

14:46:50 <Caroline_> ... This is for our open data portal

... This is for our open data portal

14:47:09 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:47:12 <Caroline_> yaso: could you add on the second round of the use case document?

Yaso Córdova: could you add on the second round of the use case document?

14:47:43 <Caroline_> ... are you talking aobut a new work that you are doing for the open data portal?

... are you talking aobut a new work that you are doing for the open data portal?

14:48:01 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: the new data portal of European Union

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the new data portal of European Union

14:48:07 <Caroline_> ... this one is going much faster

... this one is going much faster

14:48:17 <gatemezi> It could be nice to have the requirements you have at the EU portal in our UCs document

Ghislain Atemezing: It could be nice to have the requirements you have at the EU portal in our UCs document

14:48:26 <Caroline_> +1 to gatemezi

+1 to gatemezi

14:48:32 <yaso> Ack gatemezi

Yaso Córdova: Ack gatemezi

14:48:56 <Caroline_> gatemezi: some of the requirements of the portal maybe in the Use Case document

Ghislain Atemezing: some of the requirements of the portal maybe in the Use Case document

14:49:12 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: the proposal is to include the document?

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the proposal is to include the document?

14:49:21 <Caroline_> gatemezi: is to use the requirement

Ghislain Atemezing: is to use the requirement

14:49:56 <Caroline_> ... it is hard to do it because the portal is in a transition

... it is hard to do it because the portal is in a transition

14:50:04 <Caroline_> ... it is too premature to put it there

... it is too premature to put it there

14:50:22 <Caroline_> yaso: let's leave this topic open until hadleybeeman comes back

Yaso Córdova: let's leave this topic open until hadleybeeman comes back

14:50:35 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:50:35 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

14:50:35 <yaso> ack Ber

Yaso Córdova: ack Ber

14:50:38 <yaso> Ack BernadetteLoscio

Yaso Córdova: Ack BernadetteLoscio

14:50:44 <Caroline_> ... it could be usefull for the Use Cases requirements

... it could be usefull for the Use Cases requirements

14:51:02 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: MTCarrasco is there something that could be included in the BP document?

Bernadette Farias Loscio: MTCarrasco is there something that could be included in the BP document?

14:51:18 <Caroline_> ... do you want to create some BP according to this template you have proposed?

... do you want to create some BP according to this template you have proposed?

14:51:37 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: is the proposal that I include in the BP document about the comuri document

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: is the proposal that I include in the BP document about the comuri document

14:51:38 <Caroline_> ?

?

14:51:48 <newton> Data Identifcation section

Newton Calegari: Data Identifcation section

14:51:57 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: we have one section for identifiers and we need a short description

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we have one section for identifiers and we need a short description

14:52:11 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: should I put the reference to the comuri document?

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: should I put the reference to the comuri document?

14:52:20 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: I am talking about the BP document

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I am talking about the BP document

14:52:47 <Caroline_> ... are you going to include some of this on the BP document

... are you going to include some of this on the BP document

14:52:54 <gatemezi> For e.g., we can include this  http://dragoman.org/comuri.html#nature-of-the-resources in the section regarding versioning and URI design

Ghislain Atemezing: For e.g., we can include this http://dragoman.org/comuri.html#nature-of-the-resources in the section regarding versioning and URI design

14:53:03 <gatemezi> ..but using the template of BP

Ghislain Atemezing: ..but using the template of BP

14:53:19 <Caroline_> yaso: maybe we should use the Use Case requirements to follow the procedures

Yaso Córdova: maybe we should use the Use Case requirements to follow the procedures

14:53:39 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: I am not proposing a merge

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I am not proposing a merge

14:53:55 <Caroline_> ... we have some requirement on data identification

... we have some requirement on data identification

14:53:58 <gatemezi> And ACK the rest of the big document for details to the users

Ghislain Atemezing: And ACK the rest of the big document for details to the users

14:54:18 <yaso> +1 to gatemezi

Yaso Córdova: +1 to gatemezi

14:54:20 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:54:20 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

14:54:21 <Caroline_> ... the idea was just to understand with MTCarrasco how he will include this work on the BP document

... the idea was just to understand with MTCarrasco how he will include this work on the BP document

14:54:33 <Caroline_> gatemezi: we can reuse part of it

Ghislain Atemezing: we can reuse part of it

14:54:58 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: we have produce something that is the BP

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: we have produce something that is the BP

14:55:15 <Caroline_> gatemezi: inside of the BP document there are different section

Ghislain Atemezing: inside of the BP document there are different section

14:55:48 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:55:49 <newton> I think BernadetteLoscio is not proposing one merge. We would like to know if MTCarrasco wants to put content related to Identification on Data Identification section on BP document.

Newton Calegari: I think BernadetteLoscio is not proposing one merge. We would like to know if MTCarrasco wants to put content related to Identification on Data Identification section on BP document.

14:56:20 <BernadetteLoscio> yes Tomas! thanks!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes Tomas! thanks!

14:56:47 <Caroline_> yaso: can we make a action to discuss it by email?

Yaso Córdova: can we make a action to discuss it by email?

14:57:42 <Caroline_> ACTION: gatemezi will write an email about what he understandes about the discussion on the URI document and MTCarrasco work to be put on the BP document

ACTION: gatemezi will write an email about what he understandes about the discussion on the URI document and MTCarrasco work to be put on the BP document

14:57:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-132 - Will write an email about what he understandes about the discussion on the uri document and mtcarrasco work to be put on the bp document [on Ghislain Auguste Atemezing - due 2014-12-05].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-132 - Will write an email about what he understandes about the discussion on the uri document and mtcarrasco work to be put on the bp document [on Ghislain Auguste Atemezing - due 2014-12-05].

14:58:19 <Caroline_> yaso: we will have a call on Monday from 12h London Time until 3PM London Time

Yaso Córdova: we will have a call on Monday from 12h London Time until 3PM London Time

14:58:20 <yaso> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141201

Yaso Córdova: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141201

14:58:59 <gatemezi> I will try to join the meeting at some point

Ghislain Atemezing: I will try to join the meeting at some point

14:59:11 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco

14:59:14 <Caroline_> ... the goal is to adress contributors for the BP document and it will be great if everyone can participate

... the goal is to adress contributors for the BP document and it will be great if everyone can participate

14:59:16 <nathalia> bye

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye

14:59:17 <CarlosIglesias> bye!

Carlos Iglesias: bye!

14:59:17 <jerdeb_> bye

Jeremy Debattista: bye

14:59:19 <Zakim> -annette_g

Zakim IRC Bot: -annette_g

14:59:20 <gatemezi> bye

Ghislain Atemezing: bye

14:59:20 <BernadetteLoscio> bye!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: bye!

14:59:21 <Caroline_> bye!

bye!

14:59:23 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Thanks, Bye

Riccardo Albertoni: Thanks, Bye

14:59:25 <Zakim> -jerdeb_

Zakim IRC Bot: -jerdeb_

14:59:25 <annette_g> bye!

Annette Greiner: bye!

14:59:27 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias

Zakim IRC Bot: -CarlosIglesias

14:59:28 <AdrianoC> Bye! See you on Monday!

Adriano Pereira: Bye! See you on Monday!

14:59:28 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

14:59:28 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: -MakxDekkers

14:59:32 <Zakim> -RiccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: -RiccardoAlbertoni

14:59:35 <yaso> RRSAgent, make logs public

Yaso Córdova: RRSAgent, make logs public

14:59:45 <Zakim> -Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yaso

14:59:45 <AdrianoC> bye!

Adriano Pereira: bye!

14:59:50 <yaso> Bye all1

Yaso Córdova: Bye all1

14:59:57 <yaso> all

Yaso Córdova: all

14:59:59 <AdrianoC> -AdrianoC

Adriano Pereira: -AdrianoC

15:01:51 <Zakim> -AdrianoC

Zakim IRC Bot: -AdrianoC

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15:06:53 <Zakim> Attendees were Caroline_, newton, MTCarrasco, AdrianoC, Nathalia, BernadetteLoscio, annette_g, gatemezi, RiccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb_, MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Caroline_, newton, MTCarrasco, AdrianoC, Nathalia, BernadetteLoscio, annette_g, gatemezi, RiccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb_, MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias



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