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14:51:05 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
14:51:05 <trackbot> Date: 24 March 2014
15:00:19 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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15:00:35 <Zakim> +Stearns
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15:00:54 <Zakim> +??P5
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15:01:02 <mgylling> zakim, ??P5 is me
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15:01:02 <Zakim> +mgylling; got it
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15:01:04 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is liza
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15:01:04 <Zakim> +liza; got it
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15:01:10 <Zakim> +duga
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15:01:17 <Zakim> +Tzviya
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15:01:17 <Zakim> + +1.201.236.aabb
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15:01:22 <Zakim> + +1.646.336.aacc
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15:01:40 <ivan> zakim, aabb is pbelfanti
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15:01:40 <Zakim> +pbelfanti; got it
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15:01:55 <ivan> zakim, aacc is Julie_Morris
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15:01:55 <Zakim> +Julie_Morris; got it
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15:02:04 <mgylling> regrets: Laura Fowler, Luc Audrain, Phil Madans, Tom De Nies, Dave Cramer
15:02:17 <ivan> zakim, Julie_Morris is Julie
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15:02:17 <Zakim> +Julie; got it
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15:02:34 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
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15:02:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ivan, Stearns, liza, mgylling, duga, pbelfanti, Tzviya, Julie
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15:02:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see Bill_Kasdorf, Julie, liza, pbelfanti, brady_duga, mgylling, tzviya, Zakim, RRSAgent, tmichel, ivan, liam, astearns__, plinss, trackbot
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15:03:06 <ivan> zakim, aadd is Bill_Kasdorf
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15:04:12 <Zakim> +??P9
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15:04:22 <tmichel> zakim, ??P9 is me
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15:04:34 <mgylling> zakim, who is here?
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15:04:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ivan, Stearns, liza, mgylling, duga, pbelfanti, Tzviya, Julie, Bill_Kasdorf, tmichel
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15:04:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see fjh, Bill_Kasdorf, Julie, liza, pbelfanti, brady_duga, mgylling, tzviya, Zakim, RRSAgent, tmichel, ivan, liam, astearns__, plinss, trackbot
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15:04:52 <mgylling> zakim, pick a victim
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15:04:52 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Stearns
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15:05:09 <mgylling> zakim, pick a victim
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15:05:09 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose mgylling
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15:05:18 <mgylling> zakim, pick a victim
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15:05:18 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Stearns
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15:05:30 <mgylling> zakim, pick a victim
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15:05:30 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Stearns
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15:05:33 <liza> Zakim, try harder
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15:05:33 <Zakim> I don't understand 'try harder', liza
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15:05:33 <astearns__> agh
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15:05:37 <Zakim> + +1.585.217.aaee
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15:05:38 <mgylling> zakim, pick a victim
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15:05:38 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose pbelfanti
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15:05:45 <Zakim> +Bert
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15:05:46 <mgylling> zakim, pick a victim
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15:05:46 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Bert
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15:06:48 <Bert> ScribeNick: bert
(Scribe set to Bert Bos)
15:07:07 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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15:07:09 <Bert> Topic: Approving minutes
15:07:11 <fjh> zakim, ipcaller is me
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15:07:11 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
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15:07:16 <Bert> mgylling: Any objections?
Markus Gylling: Any objections? ←
15:07:30 <Bert> RESOLVED: minutes of last week are approved
RESOLVED: minutes of last week are approved ←
15:07:31 <ivan> zakim, 585 is david_stroup
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15:07:31 <Zakim> sorry, ivan, I do not recognize a party named '585'
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15:07:41 <ivan> zakim aaee is david_stroup
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15:07:46 <Bert> Topic: Participation of content & mark-up TF
15:08:14 <Bert> mgylling: TFs focus on one topic at a time.
Markus Gylling: TFs focus on one topic at a time. ←
15:08:29 <Bert> ... Current for this TF is tructural semantics inflection.
... Current for this TF is tructural semantics inflection. ←
15:08:40 <Bert> ... Recap:
... Recap: ←
15:09:00 <Bert> ... Try to figure out how to do inflection of domain-specific structural semantics in HTML5.
... Try to figure out how to do inflection of domain-specific structural semantics in HTML5. ←
15:09:14 <Bert> ... EPUB uses epub:type namespaced attribute.
... EPUB uses epub:type namespaced attribute. ←
15:09:42 <Bert> ... Want attribute to be serializing-agnostic, i.e., good for both HTML and XML.
... Want attribute to be serializing-agnostic, i.e., good for both HTML and XML. ←
15:09:50 <Bert> ... Work with ARIA.
... Work with ARIA. ←
15:10:11 <Bert> ... I think we want to produce use-cases for semantic inflection.
... I think we want to produce use-cases for semantic inflection. ←
15:10:26 <Bert> ... I haven't had time to start on it.
... I haven't had time to start on it. ←
15:10:46 <Bert> ... We should try to describe our options:
... We should try to describe our options: ←
15:11:17 <Bert> ... Different approaches: epub:type, ITS-inspired attributes (with a hyphen).
... Different approaches: epub:type, ITS-inspired attributes (with a hyphen). ←
15:11:31 <Bert> ... Hyphen instea dof namespace makes a difference in HTML5.
... Hyphen instea dof namespace makes a difference in HTML5. ←
15:11:56 <Bert> ... Industry uses data-* already. Class attrib also.
... Industry uses data-* already. Class attrib also. ←
15:12:19 <Bert> ... But data-* is not really recommended for spec extensions.
... But data-* is not really recommended for spec extensions. ←
15:12:38 <Bert> ... So there are various approaches and we get questions why we don't do this or don't do that.
... So there are various approaches and we get questions why we don't do this or don't do that. ←
15:12:46 <ivan> +1 to the summary
Ivan Herman: +1 to the summary ←
15:12:46 <Bert> ... Need a summary of pros and cons.
... Need a summary of pros and cons. ←
15:12:58 <Bert> ... Thus help the publishing industry.
... Thus help the publishing industry. ←
15:13:10 <Bert> ... So: 1) use cases and 2) source mapping.
... So: 1) use cases and 2) source mapping. ←
15:13:20 <Bert> ... Is this too slow?
... Is this too slow? ←
15:13:44 <Bert> ... Given that we have a liason with PF already, via Richard Schwertfeger.
... Given that we have a liason with PF already, via Richard Schwertfeger. ←
15:13:47 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:14:17 <Bert> liza: Some approaches "work" but shouldn't be used.
Tzviya Siegman: Some approaches "work" but shouldn't be used. ←
15:14:31 <mgylling> ack ivan
Markus Gylling: ack ivan ←
15:14:41 <liza> s/liza/tzviya/
15:14:45 <Bert> ivan: The summary mneans to list the issues and discussions.
Ivan Herman: The summary means to list the issues and discussions. ←
15:14:52 <liza> :)
15:14:58 <Bert> ... We should also add RDF/a vs microdata.
... We should also add RDF/a vs microdata. ←
15:15:14 <ivan> s/RDF\/a/RDFa/
Ivan Herman: s/RDF\/a/RDFa/ (warning: replacement failed) ←
15:15:18 <Bert> mgylling: It's a long list of options...
Markus Gylling: It's a long list of options... ←
15:15:40 <ivan> s/mneans/means/
15:15:46 <Bert> ... Twofold approach: 1st work on ARIA role attribute and make it applicable for us.
... Twofold approach: 1st work on ARIA role attribute and make it applicable for us. ←
15:16:11 <Bert> ... Rich said changes are needed, wrt. treating unknown values.
... Rich said changes are needed, wrt. treating unknown values. ←
15:16:22 <Bert> ... pF also intends to work on sub-modules for ARIA roles.
... pF also intends to work on sub-modules for ARIA roles. ←
15:16:31 <Bert> ... E.g., for SVG.
... E.g., for SVG. ←
15:16:41 <Bert> ... And alsofor book structure sematics.
... And alsofor book structure sematics. ←
15:17:12 <Bert> ... Who can work on that?
... Who can work on that? ←
15:17:18 <mgylling> q?
Markus Gylling: q? ←
15:17:19 <Bert> ... Comments?
... Comments? ←
15:17:43 <Bert> ... Wrt. wiki activity: we need help.
... Wrt. wiki activity: we need help. ←
15:17:56 <Bert> ... I.e., provide use cases and list options.
... I.e., provide use cases and list options. ←
15:18:06 <Bert> ... Who wants to work with us on that over next 2-3 weeks?
... Who wants to work with us on that over next 2-3 weeks? ←
15:18:08 <ivan> FYI: http://www.w3.org/2012/10/draft-pfwg-charter is the upcoming charter of the PF WG
Scribe problem: the name 'FYI' does not match any of the 68 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Tam Alan Stearns Ben Ko Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Casey Dougherty Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dmitry Shkolnik Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu Frederick Hirsch George Kerscher George Walkley Gerardo Capiel Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Ivan Herman Jean Kaplansky Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Manuel Rego Casasnovas Marilyn Siderwicz Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Paolo Ciccarese Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Priyanka Malik Richard Schwerdtfeger Robin Berjon Sharad Garg Somnath Chandra Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Tom Burns Tom De Nies Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vlad Stirbu Vladimir Levantovsky akiyoshi ibuki Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown FYI: http://www.w3.org/2012/10/draft-pfwg-charter is the upcoming charter of the PF WG [ Scribe Assist by Ivan Herman ] ←
15:18:21 <Bert> ivan: For me those weeks are difficult.
Ivan Herman: For me those weeks are difficult. ←
15:18:30 <Bert> ... After that I'd be happy to contribute.
... After that I'd be happy to contribute. ←
15:18:47 <Bert> ... (Travel to workshop and then to Korea.)
... (Travel to workshop and then to Korea.) ←
15:18:49 <tzviya> q+
Tzviya Siegman: q+ ←
15:19:06 <mgylling> ack tzviya
Markus Gylling: ack tzviya ←
15:19:07 <Bert> ... But I want to contribute, or get info from my colleagues.
... But I want to contribute, or get info from my colleagues. ←
15:19:28 <Bert> tzviya: Dave or Paul, since you did some work, are you interested?
Tzviya Siegman: Dave or Paul, since you did some work, are you interested? ←
15:19:39 <Bert> dave: Yes.
Dave Cramer: Yes. ←
15:19:47 <liza> Hooray
15:20:10 <Bert> mgylling: So me, tzviya and dave in charge of the TF wiki.
Markus Gylling: So me, tzviya and dave in charge of the TF wiki. ←
15:20:53 <Bert> ... Comparison table could do with help from Robin.
... Comparison table could do with help from Robin. ←
15:21:14 <Bert> ... We want EPUB to pick the rigjht options.
... We want EPUB to pick the rigjht options. ←
15:21:50 <Bert> ivan: The reasons why we think multi-serializing is necessary, we will get questions about that and what's wrong wity epub:type.
Ivan Herman: The reasons why we think multi-serializing is necessary, we will get questions about that and what's wrong wity epub:type. ←
15:22:01 <Bert> mgylling: We can list pros and cons in the comparison table.
Markus Gylling: We can list pros and cons in the comparison table. ←
15:22:28 <Bert> ivan: And also: microformats-style, using class attribute, will also be asked about. Controversial issue.
Ivan Herman: And also: microformats-style, using class attribute, will also be asked about. Controversial issue. ←
15:22:33 <tzviya> q+
Tzviya Siegman: q+ ←
15:22:53 <Bert> mgylling: We try to move quickly, because epub:typ[e and clas attr both have issues.
Markus Gylling: We try to move quickly, because epub:type and clas attr both have issues. ←
15:23:08 <Bert> ivan: Documenting that and having a ref for for the future is important.
Ivan Herman: Documenting that and having a ref for for the future is important. ←
15:23:10 <ivan> s/typ[e/type/
15:23:26 <mgylling> ack tzviya
Markus Gylling: ack tzviya ←
15:23:26 <ivan> ack tzviya
Ivan Herman: ack tzviya ←
15:23:49 <Bert> tzviya: Is the doc going to descruibe why this vocab is necessary at all? Some people would say HTML is perfect...
Tzviya Siegman: Is the doc going to descruibe why this vocab is necessary at all? Some people would say HTML is perfect... ←
15:24:17 <Bert> ivan: Half of it will be a version of th euse cases. The olther half is technical stuff.
Ivan Herman: Half of it will be a version of th euse cases. The other half is technical stuff. ←
15:24:39 <Bert> mgylling: List of names of people wishing to join PF to work with them.
Markus Gylling: List of names of people wishing to join PF to work with them. ←
15:24:47 <ivan> s/olther/other/
15:25:06 <Bert> ivan: They have to be members, because Invited Experts here are only IE in DPUB.
Ivan Herman: They have to be members, because Invited Experts here are only IE in DPUB. ←
15:25:17 <tzviya> I'm working on it :)
Tzviya Siegman: I'm working on it :) ←
15:25:22 <Bert> dave: I can look into it.
Dave Cramer: I can look into it. ←
15:25:33 <Bert> ivan: You're a me,ber, so no problem.
Ivan Herman: You're a me,ber, so no problem. ←
15:25:36 <liza> Thanks Pearson!
15:25:48 <Bert> mgylling: Anybody else?
Markus Gylling: Anybody else? ←
15:26:01 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:26:11 <ivan> acq ivan
Ivan Herman: acq ivan ←
15:26:18 <ivan> ack ivan
Ivan Herman: ack ivan ←
15:26:28 <Bert> ivan: OK to start on wiki. Do we want to publish a doc later?
Ivan Herman: OK to start on wiki. Do we want to publish a doc later? ←
15:26:37 <Bert> mgylling: Like a Note? Yes, probably.
Markus Gylling: Like a Note? Yes, probably. ←
15:27:12 <Bert> ivan: I agree that would be good. At what point do we move the document to github? Don't wait to long, becauseit gets harder to transform.
Ivan Herman: I agree that would be good. At what point do we move the document to github? Don't wait to long, becauseit gets harder to transform. ←
15:27:25 <Bert> ... Ping me and I'll set it up.
... Ping me and I'll set it up. ←
15:27:34 <tmichel> http://www.w3.org/2013/02/digpubig.html#deliverables
Thierry Michel: http://www.w3.org/2013/02/digpubig.html#deliverables ←
15:27:45 <Bert> Topic: deliverable "A comprehensive and prioritized list..."
15:27:47 <mgylling> A comprehensive and prioritized list of W3C specifications that are important for the Digital Publishing industry but are still in an unstable state at the W3C, as well as their current state in the process. The goal of this deliverable is to help the Digital Publishing industry, as well as the different specification and standardization activities within that community, to be aware of the evolution of the W3C specifications, and to possibly adapt their
Markus Gylling: A comprehensive and prioritized list of W3C specifications that are important for the Digital Publishing industry but are still in an unstable state at the W3C, as well as their current state in the process. The goal of this deliverable is to help the Digital Publishing industry, as well as the different specification and standardization activities within that community, to be aware of the evolution of the W3C specifications, and to possibly adapt their ←
15:27:48 <mgylling> specifications accordingly.
Markus Gylling: specifications accordingly. ←
15:28:27 <Bert> mgylling: This is a cross-TF thing.
Markus Gylling: This is a cross-TF thing. ←
15:28:41 <Bert> ... Doesn't look so complicated. How do we go about producing this?
... Doesn't look so complicated. How do we go about producing this? ←
15:28:56 <Bert> ... One option is to start with a wiki and let the TF leads add listings.
... One option is to start with a wiki and let the TF leads add listings. ←
15:29:17 <Bert> .. We should be more specifgic than CSS2/CSS3, but list specific modules.
.. We should be more specifgic than CSS2/CSS3, but list specific modules. ←
15:29:28 <Bert> ivan: Not all CSS modules are of interest.
Ivan Herman: Not all CSS modules are of interest. ←
15:29:48 <Bert> ... Add their status, ready for publication, ready to use, etc.
... Add their status, ready for publication, ready to use, etc. ←
15:30:05 <Bert> ... A numbe rof specs highly relevant but only WD still.
... A numbe rof specs highly relevant but only WD still. ←
15:30:18 <Bert> mgylling: OK, so add a status as well.
Markus Gylling: OK, so add a status as well. ←
15:30:26 <Bert> ... Is a wiki the right approach?
... Is a wiki the right approach? ←
15:30:26 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
Bill Kasdorf: q+ ←
15:30:40 <mgylling> ack Bill_
Markus Gylling: ack Bill_ ←
15:30:44 <Bert> Bill_Kasdorf: Yes, right way to start.
Bill Kasdorf: Yes, right way to start. ←
15:31:12 <Bert> ... On meta data work: all of these deliverables are directed at W3C WGs. Should we direct also at publishers?
... On meta data work: all of these deliverables are directed at W3C WGs. Should we direct also at publishers? ←
15:31:25 <Bert> ... There's a lack of awareness of what's already there.
... There's a lack of awareness of what's already there. ←
15:31:32 <Bert> ivan: Example?
Ivan Herman: Example? ←
15:31:50 <Bert> Bill_Kasdorf: Various widely, based on publisher and how techn they are.
Bill Kasdorf: Various widely, based on publisher and how techn they are. ←
15:32:15 <Bert> ... Not many are aware of ARIA, RDF/a. Schema.org is easier, but even that they often don't know.
... Not many are aware of ARIA, RDF/a. Schema.org is easier, but even that they often don't know. ←
15:32:52 <Bert> ivan: In the table we'll have what's done and what's under devel.
Ivan Herman: In the table we'll have what's done and what's under devel. ←
15:32:55 <Zakim> -pbelfanti
Zakim IRC Bot: -pbelfanti ←
15:33:06 <Bert> ... ARIA is in former category.
... ARIA is in former category. ←
15:33:34 <Bert> ... For tech. that are already there, we can point at primers annd intro material.
... For tech. that are already there, we can point at primers annd intro material. ←
15:33:46 <Bert> ... In a few cases W3C has such documents.
... In a few cases W3C has such documents. ←
15:34:06 <Bert> ... For many that doesn't exist. And then the q is what documents are useful for that community.
... For many that doesn't exist. And then the q is what documents are useful for that community. ←
15:34:15 <Bert> ... But we can look at what is useful info.
... But we can look at what is useful info. ←
15:34:36 <Bert> mgylling: So another extra column in the wiki: primer links
Markus Gylling: So another extra column in the wiki: primer links ←
15:34:55 <Bert> ... As soon as we have sufficient content, we'll assign an editor.
... As soon as we have sufficient content, we'll assign an editor. ←
15:35:19 <Bert> ivan: We need to discuss: these documents tend to become outdated quickly.
Ivan Herman: We need to discuss: these documents tend to become outdated quickly. ←
15:35:43 <Bert> ... I know similar work in mobile area. One of my colleagues worked on a table.
... I know similar work in mobile area. One of my colleagues worked on a table. ←
15:36:07 <Bert> ... Mobile is a different world, but he has a mechanism to update it maybe every 6 months.
... Mobile is a different world, but he has a mechanism to update it maybe every 6 months. ←
15:36:17 <Bert> ... So it is different from a Note.
... So it is different from a Note. ←
15:36:46 <Bert> mgylling: Yes, keeping as a wiki might also be doable. We start with a wiki anyway.
Markus Gylling: Yes, keeping as a wiki might also be doable. We start with a wiki anyway. ←
15:36:53 <ivan> -> http://www.w3.org/2014/01/mobile-web-app-state/ Dominque’s table
Ivan Herman: -> http://www.w3.org/2014/01/mobile-web-app-state/ Dominque’s table ←
15:36:56 <Bert> ... Who can start the wiki page?
... Who can start the wiki page? ←
15:37:09 <Bert> ivan: Here [above] is the table I was referring to.
Ivan Herman: Here [above] is the table I was referring to. ←
15:37:28 <Bert> ... Different from what we need, e.g., it has APIs.
... Different from what we need, e.g., it has APIs. ←
15:37:58 <Bert> ... A number of things there are related to testing and deployment in browsers, also.
... A number of things there are related to testing and deployment in browsers, also. ←
15:38:11 <Bert> ... Reading systems such as Readium are different.
... Reading systems such as Readium are different. ←
15:38:24 <Bert> ... But still a good example of a table.
... But still a good example of a table. ←
15:38:28 <tmichel> I can setup the wiki page
Thierry Michel: I can setup the wiki page ←
15:38:35 <Bert> mgylling: So who can set up the wiki?
Markus Gylling: So who can set up the wiki? ←
15:38:50 <Bert> ... Thierry will. Thanks!
... Thierry will. Thanks! ←
15:38:53 <tmichel> Ok will add categories
Thierry Michel: Ok will add categories ←
15:39:05 <Bert> Topic: AOB
15:39:23 <Bert> mgylling: Q for Bill:
Markus Gylling: Q for Bill: ←
15:39:32 <Bert> ... I punted on your metadata date?
... I punted on your metadata date? ←
15:39:38 <Bert> ... How about next Monday?
... How about next Monday? ←
15:39:56 <Bert> Bill_Kasdorf: Next Monday is too soon, need to discuss with Mady first.
Bill Kasdorf: Next Monday is too soon, need to discuss with Mady first. ←
15:40:06 <Bert> ivan: Not here in two weeks.
Ivan Herman: Not here in two weeks. ←
15:40:39 <Bert> Bill_Kasdorf: 7 OK, 14 not...
Bill Kasdorf: 7 OK, 14 not... ←
15:40:53 <Bert> ivan: 14th I'll be jetlagged.
Ivan Herman: 14th I'll be jetlagged. ←
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15:41:07 <Bert> Bill_Kasdorf: 14th probably doesn't work for me either.
Bill Kasdorf: 14th probably doesn't work for me either. ←
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15:41:29 <Zakim> -Bert
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15:41:44 <Bert> RRSAgent, make minutes
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15:41:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/24-dpub-minutes.html Bert
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15:41:54 <Zakim> Attendees were Ivan, Stearns, +1.617.453.aaaa, mgylling, liza, duga, Tzviya, +1.201.236.aabb, +1.646.336.aacc, pbelfanti, Julie, +1.734.904.aadd, Bill_Kasdorf, tmichel,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Ivan, Stearns, +1.617.453.aaaa, mgylling, liza, duga, Tzviya, +1.201.236.aabb, +1.646.336.aacc, pbelfanti, Julie, +1.734.904.aadd, Bill_Kasdorf, tmichel, ←
15:41:54 <Zakim> ... +1.585.217.aaee, Bert, fjh
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15:42:01 <Zakim> +Ruben
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15:42:09 <Bert> RRSAgent, make minutes
RRSAgent, make minutes ←
15:42:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/24-dpub-minutes.html Bert
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/24-dpub-minutes.html Bert ←
15:42:34 <Bert> Chair: mgylling
15:43:52 <Zakim> -Ruben
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15:43:53 <Zakim> Attendees were Ruben
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