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<scribe> Scribe: Jan
JS: No news for this week
JR: Doesn't it end today?
JS: Yes...big implication is we
can't publish
... I'm just unsure...I didn't talk to Judy about it
... I will send an email to the group
JT: But we can continue with the meetings, etc?
JS: Still just the one comment
<Greg> What was the comment about?
JS: Comments close end of day... midnight Eastern on Tues.
<Greg> +1
<jeanne> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-atag2-comments/2013Sep/0001.html
JS: This is the comment
JR: Proposed response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2013JulSep/0071.html
<Greg> NO
> Capturing the results of accessibility evaluation performed by authors has
> several advantages, including:
> • enabling the re-use of self-evaluation results to substantiate WCAG 2.0
> conformance claims;
> • enabling auditing as a credible alternative to product inspections;
> • enabling aggregation of evaluation results (for research purposes,
> monitoring and ranking);
> • enhancement of the scope of large-scale monitoring of web accessibility,
> which at present often is limited to a subset of WCAG 2.0 (i.e. what can be
> reliably programmatically determined);
> • supporting the transition of web content accessibility management from
> a product-based approach to a process-based approach. This will especially
> help integrating the subject of web accessibility into complex and/or multi-
> stakeholder environments.
Previous intent: http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-IMPLEMENTING-ATAG20-20130910/#sc_b315
<Greg> facilitate and encourage however we are not an enforcement body, these are guidelines, others with authority may choose to make them rules
JR: Reads it.
Greg: "facilitate and encourage"
JS: I like it
JT: Acknowledges thoughtful input
JR: Any objections to making that change to the implementations and to sending this rationale.
All: No
Resolution: All agree to the response and change in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2013JulSep/0071.html with two edits "facilitate"->"facilitate and encourage" AND remove duplicate "repair tools"
JT: We will keep eye out for
additional comments.
... If no additional substantive comments received,
timeline?
JS: I hope it can happen in 2
weeks...but I will need to attend a Directors meeting with
Judy.... need to show that we've met various requirements
... I have a doc that is largely ready.
... Once it passes Directors meeting, we can publish
... But there may be changes we need to make
... e.g. they will be spot-checking comment responses etc.
JT: Great
... Good to hear when that meeting will happen, keep us up to
date
... Any other people have questions?
All: None
http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2013/ATAG2ImplementationReport.html
JR: Heard from AC about Part A for Defacto, Part B is coming soon
JS: This weekend I was talking to one of TB's colleagues about Lotus Connections....
TB: Basically this tool will have
the same process as the MCE, we will need to get approval
etc.
... It's very accessible but it's complex
JS: This person was suggesting we
only look at the wiki part
... Thought it could be considered in isolation
TB: OK that seems managable
... Thought it was considered and dismissed int he past?
JR: Yes, because it was thought too complex...if the wiki can be looked at separately then maybe it becomes viable
JT: Maybe softwares are complex so it may be common for us to explain that we are looking at a part of something
JS: Strategically good to have large companies products moving towards ATAG2 conformance
TB: Do you need approvals if it is a public product
JS: No, but 6-8 months down the road, we will be looking for testimonials.
JR: So that's what I know about...
JT; There is also Google CourseBuilder
JT: The contact would like a walkthrough
JR: I can do that
JT: I qwill send JR the contact
JS: You should suggest they look at "ATAG at a glance" document
JT: Another one...OPS internal
... Test harness...evaluation tool.
... Framework does have a lot of Authoring Tool features
JR: OK, please send me the contacts
All: None heard
JT: OK we will keep an eye out
for comments...
... Next meeting Oct 7
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