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EV: Still working on new editor draft and updated
disposition of comments
... tried to answer comments we already discussed
EV: maybe we can split up the work, searching for things we already discussed
VC: will you add the comments received from Giorgio Brajnik
EV: yes, new version is done and will be up shortly
VC: where are we with the 3 questionaires?
... Will anybody go to TPAC?
SAZ: most participants are from EU/US, assumed not a quorum because it is in China
I will not be at TPAC
SAZ: this time no questionnaire on TPAC, because past experiences learn us people probably will not travel that far
EV: worked some feedback from questionnaires into
new ED, other feedback is not yet processed
... still waiting for results from website 3, proposal to postpone filling q3,
use this site for a different testing track
VC: I send around a sample to the list
EV: do you agree to postpone using website three for now, and use it later?
VC: agrees
<Detlev> Fine with me
+1
<Vivienne> The sample was sent by email previously Martijn
VC: see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2013Jun/0012.html
EV: need to discus use case and ramdom sample size
DF: the change from goals oriented to use cases is high impact, we need to go through the entire document and ask the group for permission
SAZ: seems a conceptuel change, we need to get the terms everybody is using clear
EV: maybe put in wbs (survey)
SAZ: we should end up with 3 or 4 typical types
of evaluation
... types could be separated based on an evaluators point of view
... focus on the evaluating procedure
VC: use case: test, remediation, re-test (for
example in accreditation scheme)
... use case: test the testers
EV: i will put this in the survey
DF: testing edge cases (most complex pages) is a
common use case for us
... if the aim is fixing complex situations, the aim is not the same as in
conformance evaluation
<ericvelleman> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2013May/0046.html>
EV: postpone random sample size discussion to when we're with more people
<ericvelleman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2013Jul/0002.html
VC: what is the status on the 'random discussion'
SAZ: sent an e-mail: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2013Jul/0002.html
EV: in the new DoC there are suggestions on sampling
DF: random sampling is useful, we need to include it
EV: we have to keep it, the question is on how to sample, how much pages, etc
<Detlev> :-)
<Detlev> good one :-)))
SAZ: we need to supply the algorithm to choose randomly
DF: is there a holiday schedule?
SAZ: hope we can break if we have a next publication