ISSUE-34: Adding and removing arcs in weak aggregation

aggregation

Adding and removing arcs in weak aggregation

State:
CLOSED
Product:
Linked Data Platform Spec
Raised by:
Richard Cyganiak
Opened on:
2012-11-05
Description:
LDPCs provide a way of managing groups of resources with composition semantics. But it is unclear how to do the same for groups of resources with simple aggregation semantics.

Many resources in a graph have lots of in- or outlinks with the same property: a person's friends, an author's publications, a company's employees, a class's members, a geographical area's contained entities, and so on. This is simple “weak” aggregation—we merely have lots of resources connected to one other via the same property from a domain vocabulary, with no additional LDP-related semantics.

If a node has many arcs, the representation can become way too large, so that PUT becomes impractical as a means of adding and removing arcs from the resource. However, the ability to handle graphs with such resources seems quite important. ISSUE-33 (paging) is one piece of this. How to add and remove arcs is another one.

PATCH, if supported, may be one answer to this; but only if a patch format is specified.

Something that allows adding and removing arcs via POST might be another answer.
Related Actions Items:
Related emails:
  1. LDP Rec (from eric@w3.org on 2015-02-20)
  2. Re: Proposal to close ISSUE-59 (recursive-delete): Reconsider usage of Aggregate/Composite construct to get predictable container delete behavior - take #2 (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-04-29)
  3. Re: Proposal to close ISSUE-59 (recursive-delete): Reconsider usage of Aggregate/Composite construct to get predictable container delete behavior (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-04-20)
  4. Re: ldp-ISSUE-59 (recursive-delete): Reconsider usage of Aggregate/Composite construct to get predictable container delete behavior [Linked Data Platform core] (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2013-04-05)
  5. Re: ldp-ISSUE-59 (recursive-delete): Reconsider usage of Aggregate/Composite construct to get predictable container delete behavior [Linked Data Platform core] (from sspeiche@gmail.com on 2013-04-04)
  6. Re: ldp-ISSUE-59 (recursive-delete): Reconsider usage of Aggregate/Composite construct to get predictable container delete behavior [Linked Data Platform core] (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-03-19)
  7. Re: ldp-ISSUE-59 (recursive-delete): Reconsider usage of Aggregate/Composite construct to get predictable container delete behavior [Linked Data Platform core] (from sspeiche@gmail.com on 2013-03-19)
  8. Re: ldp-ISSUE-59 (recursive-delete): Reconsider usage of Aggregate/Composite construct to get predictable container delete behavior [Linked Data Platform core] (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-03-19)
  9. Re: ldp-ISSUE-59 (recursive-delete): Reconsider usage of Aggregate/Composite construct to get predictable container delete behavior [Linked Data Platform core] (from lehors@us.ibm.com on 2013-03-19)
  10. ldp-ISSUE-59 (recursive-delete): Reconsider usage of Aggregate/Composite construct to get predictable container delete behavior [Linked Data Platform core] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2013-03-19)
  11. Re: Aggregate/Container (from sspeiche@gmail.com on 2013-03-08)
  12. Aggregate/Container (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-03-08)
  13. Re: The Intuitive/ Requirement (from Roger.Menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-03-07)
  14. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-28)
  15. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from Erik.Wilde@emc.com on 2013-02-28)
  16. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-02-27)
  17. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from Roger.Menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-02-27)
  18. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2013-02-22)
  19. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-22)
  20. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-11)
  21. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from sergio.fernandez@salzburgresearch.at on 2013-02-11)
  22. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-02-10)
  23. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2013-02-08)
  24. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from lehors@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-08)
  25. Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2013-02-08)
  26. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-08)
  27. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-05)
  28. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from sergio.fernandez@salzburgresearch.at on 2013-02-05)
  29. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from sergio.fernandez@salzburgresearch.at on 2013-02-05)
  30. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-02-04)
  31. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-04)
  32. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-04)
  33. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-02-04)
  34. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-04)
  35. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-04)
  36. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-02-04)
  37. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-04)
  38. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-04)
  39. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-02-03)
  40. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from steve.battle@sysemia.co.uk on 2013-02-02)
  41. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from lehors@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-01)
  42. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2013-02-01)
  43. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from lehors@us.ibm.com on 2013-02-01)
  44. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-02-01)
  45. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from sspeiche@gmail.com on 2013-02-01)
  46. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from sspeiche@gmail.com on 2013-02-01)
  47. Re: ISSUE-37 WAS:Proposal for containers (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-02-01)
  48. Re: Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from Erik.Wilde@emc.com on 2013-02-01)
  49. Issue-34 Back_to_Basics proposal (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-01-31)
  50. Re: Proposal for containers (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2013-01-31)
  51. Re: Proposal for containers (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-31)
  52. Re: recursive deletion (Re: Model questions) (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-01-29)
  53. Re: composition and aggregation (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-29)
  54. composition and aggregation (from Erik.Wilde@emc.com on 2013-01-29)
  55. Re: recursive deletion (Re: Model questions) (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-29)
  56. Re: recursive deletion (Re: Model questions) (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2013-01-29)
  57. Re: recursive deletion (Re: Model questions) (from eric@w3.org on 2013-01-29)
  58. Re: Model questions (from sergio.fernandez@salzburgresearch.at on 2013-01-29)
  59. Re: Model questions (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-29)
  60. recursive deletion (Re: Model questions) (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-01-29)
  61. Model questions (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2013-01-28)
  62. Re: Interaction model vs data model (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-01-25)
  63. Re: issue-34 example (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-22)
  64. Re: issue-34 example (from lehors@us.ibm.com on 2013-01-21)
  65. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-21)
  66. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-01-21)
  67. Re: issue-34 example (from Erik.Wilde@emc.com on 2013-01-21)
  68. Re: issue-34 example (from david@3roundstones.com on 2013-01-21)
  69. Re: issue-34 example (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-01-21)
  70. Re: issue-34 example (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-21)
  71. Re: issue-34 example (from Erik.Wilde@emc.com on 2013-01-21)
  72. Re: issue-34 example (from johnarwe@us.ibm.com on 2013-01-21)
  73. Re: issue-34 example (from Erik.Wilde@emc.com on 2013-01-21)
  74. Re: issue-34 example (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-01-21)
  75. Re: issue-34 example (from Erik.Wilde@emc.com on 2013-01-21)
  76. Re: issue-34 example (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-21)
  77. Re: issue-34 example (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-01-21)
  78. Re: issue-34 example (from andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com on 2013-01-20)
  79. Re: issue-34 example (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-01-20)
  80. Re: issue-34 example (from andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com on 2013-01-20)
  81. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from kidehen@openlinksw.com on 2013-01-20)
  82. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from nmihindu@fi.upm.es on 2013-01-20)
  83. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-01-20)
  84. Re: issue-34 example (from Roger.Menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-01-20)
  85. Re: issue-34 example (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-20)
  86. Re: issue-34 example (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-01-20)
  87. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from nmihindu@fi.upm.es on 2013-01-20)
  88. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from nmihindu@fi.upm.es on 2013-01-20)
  89. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-20)
  90. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-20)
  91. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from kidehen@openlinksw.com on 2013-01-19)
  92. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-19)
  93. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from sspeiche@gmail.com on 2013-01-19)
  94. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-19)
  95. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-19)
  96. Re: Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from lehors@us.ibm.com on 2013-01-18)
  97. Feedback on Henry's proposal for ISSUE-34 (from sspeiche@gmail.com on 2013-01-18)
  98. Re: issue-34 example (from lehors@us.ibm.com on 2013-01-18)
  99. Re: issue-34 example (from nmihindu@fi.upm.es on 2013-01-18)
  100. Re: issue-34 example (from andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com on 2013-01-18)
  101. Re: Aggregation: simple proposal (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-18)
  102. Re: Aggregation: simple proposal (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-18)
  103. Re: Aggregation: simple proposal (from nmihindu@fi.upm.es on 2013-01-18)
  104. Re: issue-34 example (from lehors@us.ibm.com on 2013-01-17)
  105. issue-34 example (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-01-17)
  106. Re: container/member models (from roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com on 2013-01-17)
  107. Re: container/member models (from lehors@us.ibm.com on 2013-01-17)
  108. Re: Aggregation: simple proposal (from henry.story@bblfish.net on 2013-01-16)
  109. Approach to spec changes for resolution of ISSUE-25 Weak aggregation and strong composition in containers (from sspeiche@us.ibm.com on 2012-11-19)
  110. Re: Can ISSUE-7 be closed? (from andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com on 2012-11-07)
  111. Re: (un)blessed container use cases and implementation expectations (from andy.seaborne@epimorphics.com on 2012-11-07)
  112. Re: Can ISSUE-7 be closed? (from lehors@us.ibm.com on 2012-11-06)
  113. Can ISSUE-7 be closed? (from richard@cyganiak.de on 2012-11-06)
  114. Re: (un)blessed container use cases and implementation expectations (from richard@cyganiak.de on 2012-11-06)
  115. ldp-ISSUE-34 (aggregation): Adding and removing arcs in weak aggregation [Linked Data Platform core] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2012-11-05)

Related notes:

Wiki page to track and compare proposals: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/ISSUE-34

Known email threads as of 2013-01-11 (not flagged as related to this issue, so doing so manually): http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Dec/0110.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Dec/0113.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Jan/0000.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Dec/0118.html

John Arwe, 11 Jan 2013, 15:18:52

Closed per http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2013-02-11

Arnaud Le Hors, 11 Feb 2013, 22:35:19

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