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<trackbot> Date: 06 June 2012
<scribe> Scribe: Chris
<scribe> ScribeNick: ChrisL
sergeym, thanks for subbmitting the IE10 results
hoping this might be a short call because of those
<sergeym> No problem
http://w3c-test.org/framework/results/woff-ua/
291 of 291 required tests meet CR exit criteria.
CR exit criteria have been met.
<Vlad> Chris, are you coming back?
<Vlad> See http://w3c-test.org/framework/results/woff-ua/ for the latest updates
291 of 291 required tests meet CR exit criteria.
CR exit criteria have been met.
I added results from Chrome 19 today
also the latest Opera beta (no change unfortunately)
Vlad: first order of business is updated UA results
Raph: the chromium bug strictly check table padding
Vlad: we have met the CR exit criteria
ChrisL: added Chrome 19 and Opera
12 beta rwsults, plus Microsoft sent in the IE10/Win8
results
... the advantage of making no changes is we avoid another last
call
Vlad: maybe we can raise the issue with the OT spec folks to get 'highly recommended' changed to 'mist' in line with the implementations
sergeym: agree
Vlad: most impls expect that
anyway
... some will reject a font that has no last-table padding
tal: who knows what is in the Apple sfnt parser?
(no-one)
=== quote ===
This Chromium bug tracks the recent update to OTS to make it fully comply with the W3C spec for strictly checking table padding.
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=109813
I believe this make the implementation comply with the spec, so hopefully there are no further issues.
=== /quote ===
Vlad (explains email list)
ChrisL: so this gives a more strict path for the WOFF path
Raph: yes
... could revisit if OT spec changes
(discussion on how many OT fonts in the wild miss trailing padding)
Raph: older fonts more likely to be brioken
jfkthame: pathc is identical to
one i did for Firefox, to make it pass the same test
case.
... so if that goes into OTS upstream we will inherit it
Raph: can unblock WOFF and make OT more strict later
jfkthame: would still be slow to reject as known fonts that would break. Stricter spec still a good thing longer term
Resolved: move WOFF 1.0 to Proposed Recommendation
http://www.w3.org/2012/06/WebFonts/draft-charter.html
"This proposed charter adds the evaluation of, and (if favourable) the standardisation of, this new method or some variation on it, as a deliverable of the existing WebFonts Working Group. "
jfkthame: at first glance this looks reasonable
Vlad: (explains original and new draft charters)
Raph: milestones still show a
WOFF 2.0
... so standardisation is in scope
... totally fine with that change
... hope more people do their own tests, like CPU usage on
mobile
... now on Android team btw, which does not imply any problem
with the Fonts group - but more focus on fonts for mobile
... in favour of careful evaluation and consideration of
alternatives. Not set in stone. Better alternatives, or
unforseen problems, should be addressed
Vlad: still Google's rep to this WG?
Raph: yes
... definitely have time allocation for W3C standards work
Vlad: so we think the charter is good, then we can go forward to AC review
ChrisL: (explains process)
Vlad: ensure we get adequate responses over summer, and all set for TPAC
sylvaing: any f2f beffore tpac?
Vlad: no
s/vef/bef/
Vlad: more likelyy one f2f a year plus mostly online
ChrisL: when will this patch start showing up in Chrome and Safari?
Raph: likey to ship in Chroime
within 12 weeks, and canary version in 6 weeks.
... safari I don't know
... and does not use OTS AFAIK
... use own code for that. OTS is a separate repo
ChrisL: unfortunate that Opera not present, believe they use it also
Raph: should show up in nightlies
in next day or two
... Tab could say more
ChrisL: the IE10 needs a Win8 preview?
sylvaing: can run in a VM
Vlad: Raph we are on IRC as well as on the phone
cslye: who will be at Typecon?
Raph: no
cslye: just curious
<raph> hi all!
<raph> i'll make sure to use this next call
<Vlad> Hi Raph
(adjourned)
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