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<trackbot> Date: 29 March 2012
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<trackbot> Meeting: MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 29 March 2012
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<dF> Jirko, are you joining the GoTo? Would you mind scribing
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<scribe> ACTION: df to delete this action [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-38 - Delete this action [on David Filip - due 2012-04-05].
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<Arle> I never received the call-in details (I just checked). Can someone send them?
<tadej> Arle: https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/220653286
<tadej> ... passcode is 54321
df: objections to the previous
minutes? following meeting in luxembourg
... lots of actions arised from luxembourg meeting.
... lots of technical action items are in the minutes, dave L
busy and Felix sick, David F only co-chair
... next two weeks DaveL will be chairing meetings, felix will
be away until early may. David F will chair meetings after
easter
... teleconferences will alternate between thursday evening and
friday morning, bi-weekly.
... next week meeting will be held on Friday morning 6th
April
moritz: holiday in germany, german members will not be present
df: has sent goToMeeeting invites
for both the Thursday and Friday meetings
... task meetings / f-2-f events - closest one is in June,
Dublin. 11-13th of June 2012. CFP is being prepared and will be
distributed
domJones: Meeting regarding summer June meeting is planned for Monday
<scribe> ACTION: DomJones to organise CFP conference call on Monday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action02]
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<scribe> ACTION: DomJones_ to organise CFP conference call on Monday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - DomJones_
daveL: 11th+12th meeting will be MLW-LT meeting, whereas the 13th June will be a more MLW focused meeting based on one of the break-out sessions from Luxembourg
df: LOD Workshop will be
co-chaired by Paul Beuier (SP) and Felix, although this may
change
... LOD Workshop will close requirements gathering
process
... Please look at questionnaire, which will close by the end
of march, maybe prolong this for another couple of weeks
... any objections?
daveL: how many responses have we had?
df: less than a dozen
mortiz: Drupcon in denver resulted in some interest about the questionnaire
<scribe> ACTION: daveL to establish where the questionnaire responses are stored [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-39 - Establish where the questionnaire responses are stored [on David Lewis - due 2012-04-05].
df: please forward questionnaire to interesting contacts. Also draw your attention to Work in progress (point 5) everyone in the workgroup is able to add items into the req items
DomJones_: Arle is editing the requirements document
DaveL: Arle has done a great job tidying up and editing the req doc, are you happy to continue editing?
Arle: makes sense for me to edit high level content, if other members want to edit, go ahead...
df: the req doc is open to all,
but arle is the "Gardener"
... apart from reg calls and 2nd quater gathering meeting more
general event schedulle exists for general
"dissemination"
... in Sept LRC conference will be going ahead in Ireland,
cocomore will be at drupal con, etc. Important members keep an
eye on this page and suggest trips
df: numbering of TOC only appears in the TOC not the body of the requirements. Can someone follow up on this
<scribe> ACTION: DomJones_ to contact RI about item numbers in wiki page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - DomJones_
<scribe> ACTION: DomJones to contact RI about item numbers in wiki page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - DomJones
Pedro: Can you resend the questionnaire to all the members?
df: Can you find out who to talk to at GALA about distribution of this? Can Arle make contact with GALA and liase with Pedro to send the questionnaire to the GALA members
<scribe> ACTION: Arle to contact GALA about distributing the req questionnaire to all GALA members [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-40 - Contact GALA about distributing the req questionnaire to all GALA members [on Arle Lommel - due 2012-04-05].
dF: We dont need every GALA
member to respond, but more than we have now
... Aiming for the 17th of April
... We can also distribute to the XLIFF TPC
ACTION Yves_ to distributed link through XLIFF TPC
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ACTION Yves_ to distributed link through XLIFF TPC
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Yves_
ACTION Yves to distributed link through XLIFF TPC
<trackbot> Created ACTION-41 - Distributed link through XLIFF TPC [on Yves Savourel - due 2012-04-05].
Arle: If you want to take ownership of particular items please identify this in the table in the req document which lists everything in short form. Colum exists for "Owners"
daveL: Good idea which helps reviewing these tasks, anything without a name against it comes down to co-chairs and arle to follow up on
Arle and Df agree
dF: Action item to assure features between requirements are tracked, where should this exist?
daveL: Annex of draft rec or
standards doc?
... So everyone sees it, its small and compact? Keep peoples
focus on a couple of docs.
dF: Any preferences, drafts doc or standards doc?
daveL: Once mature, supporting documentation will exist, have as annex then it can be extracted if needs be
df: mapping between req doc and data categories.
Pedro: Doc of req has become doc of data categories iteself
Arle agrees.
Arle: Felix wanted cross linking between tables, include something on requirements
Pedro: Maybe its not necessary ?
daveL agrees
dF: Owener of each requriement should check that theirs still exist
Arle: Items exist that are replicated and therefore may have been merged / deleted
dF: Everyone who had initial input in doc must check that their input exists and if not establish corrections. Appeals to group to check for their interests in the requirements
dF: Felix was doing some work
against normative and non-normative parts, please check and see
if you agree with it against req docs
... Finally, open issues - Issue 2 has been closed, felix
proposed resolution on issue 2, no resolution, hence
closed.
... Details included in the issue tracker
daveL: Good proposal from Felix on Act2, later other issues will occur, but for now happy to close
dF: Any one have comments on
remaining four issues?
... Need to look at scripting content. Its out of scope
daveL: Procedural issues - if an issue is not responded to in certain time frame, close anyway?
dF: No, not heard this
daveL: Discussed in a meeting, Yves, is this common practice?
Yves: No, keep open, not everything is disposed off
dF: This is a borderline case, scripting is not at core of charter, can be addressed non-normativly, keep open for now?
tadej: I opened an issue about Ontology / Taxonomy for defining topics and entity types, any opinions?
dF: Close issue on scripting,
Pedro: in LUX, and discussed in
best-practices, decided that impl will be out of scope but
still in best-practices we could discuss this, esp for real
time translation system.
... Provide some general principles of concrete place with
concrete client.
dF: We all agree its not in scope but could be included in best practices. How about priority on this, for issue tracking?
<scribe> ACTION: Pedro to provide some input on the scripting issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-42 - Provide some input on the scripting issue [on Pedro Luis Díez Orzas - due 2012-04-05].
Pedro: Scripting maybe important in the CMS domain
Mortiz: Agrees
daveL: Suggest Pedro provides background on this in terms of other groups looking at internationalisation of scripting langs
Pedro: I dont know
dF closes discssion of issue 5
tadej: This issue may get stuck / left behind for a while. 2 Options
daveL: Difficult subject - basic
things that schema.org may have (micro-data, RDFa etc) its a
difficult application dependant problem hard to nail down in
standard
... better off to identify term related to concept in a
particular taxonomy where that taxonomy is referenced and the
term itself is referenced.
... Restrivtive to scope terms in a single ontology
tadej: Agree on this point but
wants to emphasize on types, a person, scientist, etc should
exist as an inventory.
... Should be allowed to specify own types but also link to
common model
daveL: Does this not overlap onto the issue to do with mapping to different types of schema? There are different referencing approaches to external meta-data depending on technology
<philR> I have to leave the call. Will pick up the final conversations from the minutes.
daveL: Jirka, do you have any comments on this?
tadej: Only concerned about this in terms on technical contrainsts, must be practical
daveL: its not a case of one approach but a pattern to have defualt set, in microdata, which we may adopt
dF: please continue discussions
offline.
... Please also use [TAGS] in emails
... Thanks to all, for discussion, participation, etc, calls
will be chaired by Dave L for the next two weeks. Then David F,
then Felix.
... Closes meeting.
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<Yves_> bye
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