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HTML Weekly Teleconference

23 Feb 2012

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
glenn, hober, eliot, Radhika_Roy, Julian, Sam, mjs, [Microsoft], Cynthia_Shelly, krisk
Regrets
Chair
mjs
Scribe
glenn

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 23 February 2012

<scribe> scribe: glenn

yes

already set up

ACTION items due by Thursday, February 23

None

New Issues This Week:

None

There is 1 tracker request

http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest

Items Closed Last Week

ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example call for Change Proposals closed Feb 15

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0070.html

<trackbot> ISSUE-193 Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content notes added

ISSUE-194: full-transcript call for Change Proposals closed Feb 15

<trackbot> ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0073.html

ISSUE-195: form-http-req call for Change Proposals closed Feb 15

<trackbot> ISSUE-195 Enhance http request generation from forms notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0071.html

ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling call for Change Proposals closed Feb 15

<trackbot> ISSUE-196 Define user agent http response handling behaviour notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0072.html

ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext call for Change Proposals closed Feb 15

<trackbot> ISSUE-197 Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0074.html

ISSUE-182: footnote-recommendation call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closed Feb 16

<trackbot> ISSUE-182 Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0084.html

ISSUE-185: drop-pubdate call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closed Feb 16

<trackbot> ISSUE-185 Drop the pubdate attribute notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0083.html

ISSUE-188: generic-track-format call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closed Feb 16

<trackbot> ISSUE-188 Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0085.html

ISSUE-189: uri-web-prefix call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closed Feb 16

<trackbot> ISSUE-189 Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0086.html

ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy call for Change Proposals closed Feb 16

<trackbot> ISSUE-198 Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0077.html

ISSUE-199: aria-processing call for Change Proposals closed Feb 16

<trackbot> ISSUE-199 Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0078.html

ISSUE-200: legend-placement call for Change Proposals closed Feb 16

<trackbot> ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0079.html

ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback call for Change Proposals closed Feb 16

<trackbot> ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0080.html

ISSUE-202: figcaption-words call for Change Proposals closed Feb 16

<trackbot> ISSUE-202 Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions over 50 words in length notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0081.html

ISSUE-203: media-descriptions call for Change Proposals closed Feb 17

<trackbot> ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0098.html

mjs: questions or comments?

Items Closing This Week

ISSUE-172: restore-rb, extension closes Feb 21

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0197.html

<trackbot> ISSUE-172 restore <rb> as an optional element notes added

ISSUE-187: validity-stability, extension closes Feb 23

<trackbot> ISSUE-187 Document conformance has to be stable over the time notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0032.html

ISSUE-190: coding-example, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 23

<trackbot> ISSUE-190 Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0127.html

ISSUE-191: ins-del, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 23

<trackbot> ISSUE-191 Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0128.html

ISSUE-192: title-attribute, Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 23

<trackbot> ISSUE-192 title attribute definition does not match reality notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0129.html

mjs: questions or comments on issues closed last week?

<rubys> request: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0306.html

<paulc> Cannot join on the phone today due to other commitments

Ted: re: issue-189 requests extensions for counter proposal

mjs: at least a week before this one closes
... will check on formal extension

Items Closing Next Week

None

New Calls this week

Call for Consensus to publish 10 Heartbeat drafts

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html

ISSUE-182: footnote-recommendation, Call for Consensus closes Feb 29

<trackbot> ISSUE-182 Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0250.html

ISSUE-188: generic-track-format, Call for Consensus closes Feb 29

<trackbot> ISSUE-188 Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0251.html

ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21

<trackbot> ISSUE-193 Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0264.html

ISSUE-194: full-transcript, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21

<trackbot> ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0266.html

ISSUE-195: form-http-req, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21

<trackbot> ISSUE-195 Enhance http request generation from forms notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0263.html

ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21

<trackbot> ISSUE-196 Define user agent http response handling behaviour notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0268.html

ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21

<trackbot> ISSUE-197 Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0265.html

ISSUE-199: aria-processing, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21

<trackbot> ISSUE-199 Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0269.html

ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Mar 21

<trackbot> ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0267.html

mjs: wants to make sure people understand a "deferred"

issue-187?

<trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187

issue-190?

<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190

issue-192?

<trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192

mjs: today's the day for counter proposals

issue-188?

<trackbot> ISSUE-188 -- Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/188

closes 29th

issue-193?

<trackbot> ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193

issue-194?

<trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194

issue-195?

issue-196?

<trackbot> ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from forms -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195

issue-197?

issue-199?

<trackbot> ISSUE-196 -- Define user agent http response handling behaviour -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196

issue-201?

<trackbot> ISSUE-197 -- Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197

<trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes -- open

mjs: deadlines march 21st

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199

<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open

mjs: comments questions?

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201

New Surveys this week

None.

Decisions this week

ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy, Closed Without Prejudice and DEFERRED

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0248.html

<trackbot> ISSUE-198 Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy notes added

ISSUE-202: figcaption-words, Closed Without Prejudice and DEFERRED

<trackbot> ISSUE-202 Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions over 50 words in length notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0249.html

Task Force Reports

Testing Task Force

Krisk: met as planned on 14th

<krisk> Here is the meeting notes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Feb/0010.html

<krisk> Here is the bug https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15925

krisk: a few test submissions, see meeting notes
... but don't work in a lot of browsers
... feedback requested

<krisk> http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/html5bidi/

krisk: tests, spec, or impl may be wrong

Accessibility Task Force

mjs: anyone from Accessibility Task Force here?

cynthia: alternatives, canvas, ...., issue processing status
... wasn't prepared to give report
... major topic was text processing, and timing
... how to get all bug processing done

AOB

ISSUE-203: media-descriptions

<trackbot> ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0084.html

mjs: expecting CP soon
... email cited in agenda
... will close soon sans update

ISSUE-189: uri-web-prefix, update required

<trackbot> ISSUE-189 Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF notes added

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0270.html

mjs: updated by julian, only one CP; would proceed to CfC, but an extra week requested for counter
... any other topics?

Scribe for next meeting

<rubys> I'll likely be the chair

ted volunteers to scribe

sam will chair

Adjournment

now adjourned

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Summary of Action Items

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