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SV_MEETING_TITLE

11 Jan 2012

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
Regrets
Marco_Ranon, Gez_Lemon, Everett_Zufelt
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
hhillen

Contents


The passcode does not seem to work for me

It either says "The conference is restricted at this time" or "the passcode is incorrect"

either is fine by me

IS there a limit to how many conferences there can be at a time?

ah ok

<scribe> scribe: hhillen

Fixed bugs

<MichaelC> drop item 6

<MichaelC> drop item 7

Invalid bugs

<MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0055.html

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7601

MC: No Action

LW: I will take out the a11ytf keyword

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10481

MC: This one already has a tracker issue, so it's already escalated

HH: It's associated with http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129

LW: Do we still need to track it if it has already been escalated?

MC: That's something that should be discussed

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10482

MC: Already assigned to a tracker issue

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10905

MC: It's an old issue that dropped off the radar. We assigned it to Gregory but maybe we should assign it to Steve
... This should be part of the (possibly yet to be created) ARIA mapping tracker issue

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11238

MC: Already has a tracker issue

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13326

MC: Requester already marked it as invalid, so there's no need to track it. I'll remove the a11ytf keyword.

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13504

MC: This should be a feature request

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13533

HH: This is a user agent rather than an HTML feature

MC: Should we remove the a11ytf keyword?

LW: It's out of the scope of this spec so it should be filed somewhere else.

MC: I'll remove the keyword. It's something that should be handled by UAAG

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13535

HH: This is more related to WCAG than HTML

MC: I'll ping Joshue, this bug should be added as a WCAG technique
... Removing the a11ytf keyword

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13562

MC: I propose we reassign this to the HTML A11Y API component.
... That means assigning it to Cynthia
... Marking it as reopend

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13617

MC: I think the HTML spec should address this, but I think it's more informative
... I don't want to escalate this bug but I also don't want to drop it

HH: To me this is not an a11y issue but a privacy issue in general
... And not related to HTML5 in particular

MC: I'll add a note that this is a valid issue but that we're not sure who the owner should be (perhaps UAAG or Privacy), or that it even belongs in HTML. The issue is not related to accessibility but to privacy in general.
... I can alert the person who is handling privacy about this bug

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13619

MC: Some API from the Web Apps WG should handle this

LW: An API would make sense if it's platform neutral

MC: Maybe we can raise this as a question at the task force meeting tomorrow

LW: It's really a feature request though, a request for something that's absent rather than broken
... So our options are treat it as a feature request or escalate it

MC: We'll treat it as a feature request, it's relevant but does not need to be escalated now
... We could change the resolution state from 'invalid' to 'later'
... I'll make that change now

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13621

MC: Escalating seems problematic, dropping doesn't quite sound right
... I'll assign it back to Greg but take of the a11ytf keyword, no other changes

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13647

MC: We need to have a way of not dropping this. It's a relevant issue but related to MathML and not HTML
... We should remove the TF keyword, add verify invalid
... We may have to consider having another call on Friday
... We'll process Cynthia's issue now

Fixed bugs

Cynthia's questions

MC: Bug 8000, Cynthia asked if it could be closed

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8000

MC: We should stay focused on escalation, this one is already escalated and she 's asking about de-escalation. We should email back to Cynthia that we leave this to her judgement

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/0318.html

MC: Cynthia's proposing to let this one go
... I'll remove the TF keyword

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/0317.html

MC: There is nothing we can do for this, it should go back to the task force

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/0316.html

13512

MC: We agree with wont fix and out of scope

13659

MC: No objections

13662

MC: We should leave that on Cynthia's plate

13656

That would go back to the task force

13528

MC: That's fine, we don't need to do anything.
... We need to figure out if we should drop the a11ytf keyword for bugs that are already verified or that have been add to tracker

13531

MC: Are we going to escalate on an example? This might fall under the 'pick your battles' thing

LW: Yes, the request is correct but probably not worth picking up right now

The above applies to 13542

13548

MC: We're leaving this one alone

13549

MC: If Cynthia wants to escalate this she can do this on her own steam, the bug triage team does not see the need to escalate

13552

MC: I don't think we want to pursue this

13560

MC: We should put this on the list for tomorrow

13559

MC: NOt one for use to escalate

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/0329.html

13561

MC: Nothing for us to do

13562

MC: Nothing for us to do

13566

MC: Does not need escalating
... Friday we'll look at the fixed and needs info bugs
... And go through the tracker issues

Summary of Action Items

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