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15:58:47 <davidwood> Zakim, this will be RDF
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15:59:06 <davidwood> chair: David Wood
15:59:10 <cygri> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.01.23
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16:01:39 <davidwood> Zakim, who is here?
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16:04:29 <ericP> scribe: ericP
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16:04:46 <Zakim> +Arnaud
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16:05:31 <davidwood> PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 16 January telecon: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2013-01-16
David Wood: PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 16 January telecon: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2013-01-16 ←
16:05:56 <davidwood> RESOLVED to accept the minutes of the 16 January telecon: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2013-01-16
David Wood: RESOLVED to accept the minutes of the 16 January telecon: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/meeting/2013-01-16 ←
16:05:59 <Guus> +1
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16:06:01 <ericP> +1
+1 ←
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16:06:08 <davidwood> topic: Review of action items
16:06:08 <davidwood> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/pendingreview
David Wood: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/pendingreview ←
16:06:08 <davidwood> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/open
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16:07:49 <davidwood> Zakim, who is here?
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16:07:51 <Zakim> ... sandro, ericP
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16:08:34 <Zakim> +Guus
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16:08:42 <ericP> topic: Turtle
16:09:01 <AndyS> guus: draft progress?
Guus Schreiber: draft progress? [ Scribe Assist by Andy Seaborne ] ←
16:09:03 <Zakim> +AZ
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16:09:39 <AndyS> ericP: actions in progress (for eric and gavin) ...
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16:09:41 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF WG - http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/ - current agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.01.23
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16:09:59 <AndyS> guus: waiting for confirmation for ready to go
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16:10:17 <AndyS> scribenick: AndyS
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16:10:30 <AndyS> ACTION-220?
16:10:30 <trackbot> ACTION-220 -- Eric Prud'hommeaux to change the AtRisk styling to allow searching documents for the words "feature" and "risk" to find Features At Risk -- due 2013-01-16 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-220 -- Eric Prud'hommeaux to change the AtRisk styling to allow searching documents for the words "feature" and "risk" to find Features At Risk -- due 2013-01-16 -- OPEN ←
16:10:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/220
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16:10:57 <Zakim> +cygri
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16:11:30 <AndyS> ericP: action should be on gavin as tech expert?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: action should be on gavin as tech expert? ←
16:11:41 <AndyS> ACTION-190?
16:11:41 <trackbot> ACTION-190 -- Gavin Carothers to respond for i18n 186 -- due 2012-10-17 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-190 -- Gavin Carothers to respond for i18n 186 -- due 2012-10-17 -- OPEN ←
16:11:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/190
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16:11:47 <AndyS> ACTION-191?
16:11:47 <trackbot> ACTION-191 -- Gavin Carothers to add escaping to Turtle in HTML -- due 2012-10-17 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-191 -- Gavin Carothers to add escaping to Turtle in HTML -- due 2012-10-17 -- OPEN ←
16:11:47 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/191
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16:12:03 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/I18n-Comments
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16:12:28 <cygri> scribe: cygri
(Scribe set to Richard Cyganiak)
16:12:53 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/186 I18N issue 186
Eric Prud'hommeaux: -> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/186 I18N ISSUE-186 ←
16:13:38 <cygri> ericP: there was internal debate in I18N on this
Eric Prud'hommeaux: there was internal debate in I18N on this ←
16:13:46 <ericP> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2012JulSep/0119 Martin J. Dürst says a document has an encoding
Eric Prud'hommeaux: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2012JulSep/0119 Martin J. Dürst says a document has an encoding ←
16:14:23 <cygri> ... Addison wanted us to say that a document is a sequence of Unicode chars, but Martin said, no, a document has an encoding
... Addison wanted us to say that a document is a sequence of Unicode chars, but Martin said, no, a document has an encoding ←
16:14:40 <cygri> ... I believe Martin is always right
... I believe Martin is always right ←
16:14:53 <cygri> ... They asked us to support any encoding
... They asked us to support any encoding ←
16:15:03 <cygri> ... We said we only do UTF-8
... We said we only do UTF-8 ←
16:15:26 <cygri> ... I can send an email saying we go with Martin's story
... I can send an email saying we go with Martin's story ←
16:16:06 <cygri> davidwood: ok, I have re-assigned ACTION-190 to you
David Wood: ok, I have re-assigned ACTION-190 to you ←
16:16:58 <cygri> ericP: This (?) is tricky to do in ReSpec but easy at publication time, so please go ahead with the publication request
Eric Prud'hommeaux: This (?) is tricky to do in ReSpec but easy at publication time, so please go ahead with the publication request ←
16:17:28 <cygri> ericP: This (?) is tricky to do in ReSpec but easy at publication time, so please go ahead with the publication request, and I'll make the fix in the preparation for publication
Eric Prud'hommeaux: This (?) is tricky to do in ReSpec but easy at publication time, so please go ahead with the publication request, and I'll make the fix in the preparation for publication ←
16:18:07 <cygri> ACTION-191?
16:18:07 <trackbot> ACTION-191 -- Gavin Carothers to add escaping to Turtle in HTML -- due 2012-10-17 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-191 -- Gavin Carothers to add escaping to Turtle in HTML -- due 2012-10-17 -- OPEN ←
16:18:07 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/191
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16:18:25 <cygri> Guus: We did that.
Guus Schreiber: We did that. ←
16:18:52 <ericP> -> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html Turtle Ed draft
Eric Prud'hommeaux: -> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html Turtle Ed draft ←
16:19:45 <cygri> (discussion of the date in the ED)
(discussion of the date in the ED) ←
16:19:59 <davidwood> Looking at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#in-html it looks like action 191 is complete.
David Wood: Looking at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#in-html it looks like ACTION-191 is complete. ←
16:20:55 <Zakim> +FabGandon
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16:20:55 <cygri> davidwood: The section on embedding Turtle in HTML appears to be talking sufficiently about escaping.
David Wood: The section on embedding Turtle in HTML appears to be talking sufficiently about escaping. ←
16:21:19 <davidwood> Close ACTION-191
David Wood: Close ACTION-191 ←
16:21:19 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-191 Add escaping to Turtle in HTML.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-191 Add escaping to Turtle in HTML. ←
16:21:21 <cygri> Guus: Let's call ACTION-191 done
Guus Schreiber: Let's call ACTION-191 done ←
16:22:04 <ericP> scribenick: ericP
(Scribe set to Eric Prud'hommeaux)
16:22:17 <cygri> topic: Semantics
16:22:29 <ericP> davidwood: hard to address issue 109 without Pat and Peter
David Wood: hard to address ISSUE-109 without Pat and Peter ←
16:22:32 <cygri> davidwood: Pat and Peter not around, so let's move on from this one
David Wood: Pat and Peter not around, so let's move on from this one [ Scribe Assist by Richard Cyganiak ] ←
16:22:44 <cygri> topic: Cleanup items
16:23:11 <ericP> davidwood: four open issues
David Wood: four open issues ←
16:23:16 <cygri> davidwood: Four open issues here. Can we get through a couple of them?
David Wood: Four open issues here. Can we get through a couple of them? [ Scribe Assist by Richard Cyganiak ] ←
16:23:27 <cygri> ISSUE-25?
16:23:27 <trackbot> ISSUE-25 -- Should we deprecate (RDF 2004) reification of statements? -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-25 -- Should we deprecate (RDF 2004) reification of statements? -- open ←
16:23:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/25
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/25 ←
16:23:58 <cygri> subtopic: ISSUE-25 Deprecation of reification?
16:23:59 <ericP> davidwood: last input from WG member was in Oct 2011
David Wood: last input from WG member was in Oct 2011 ←
16:24:40 <ericP> ... discussion about marking reification or aspects of reification archaic
... discussion about marking reification or aspects of reification archaic ←
16:24:50 <ericP> ... we should close noting that resolution
... we should close noting that resolution ←
16:25:14 <davidwood> PROPOSAL: Close ISSUE-25 by saying that this WG will not deprecate reification of statements.
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-25 by saying that this WG will not deprecate reification of statements. ←
16:25:18 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
16:25:22 <AndyS> +1 to do nothing for or against reification (let it quietly slip away)
Andy Seaborne: +1 to do nothing for or against reification (let it quietly slip away) ←
16:25:22 <Arnaud> would be nice to briefly say why
Arnaud Le Hors: would be nice to briefly say why ←
16:25:24 <davidwood> ack cygri
David Wood: ack cygri ←
16:26:03 <ericP> cygri: it might be a good idea to note informatively in the relevent spec section (RDF Schema) that named graphs and RDF datasets are another mechanism to accomplish the same goals
Richard Cyganiak: it might be a good idea to note informatively in the relevent spec section (RDF Schema) that named graphs and RDF datasets are another mechanism to accomplish the same goals ←
16:26:14 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
16:26:16 <ericP> davidwood: yes, and we have to republish RDF Schema
David Wood: yes, and we have to republish RDF Schema ←
16:26:31 <ericP> ... Arnaud said it would be nice to know why.
... Arnaud said it would be nice to know why. ←
16:26:43 <ericP> ... fundamental issue is that the WG couldn't gain concensus
... fundamental issue is that the WG couldn't gain concensus ←
16:27:48 <yvesr> +1, but it is added 'noise' to the spec, which will make it harder to understand for new-comers
Yves Raimond: +1, but it is added 'noise' to the spec, which will make it harder to understand for new-comers ←
16:27:53 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
16:28:01 <ericP> ericP: are there folks using it?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: are there folks using it? ←
16:28:16 <cygri> q+ to mention Talis changesets
Richard Cyganiak: q+ to mention Talis changesets ←
16:28:24 <ericP> Arnaud: i used to tell people at IBM that reification was going away
Arnaud Le Hors: i used to tell people at IBM that reification was going away ←
16:28:30 <davidwood> ack AndyS
David Wood: ack AndyS ←
16:28:34 <ericP> ... can we doc why we don't have consensus?
... can we doc why we don't have consensus? ←
16:28:47 <Zakim> +PatH
Zakim IRC Bot: +PatH ←
16:28:55 <ericP> AndyS: i'd rather not make a value judgement about reification.
Andy Seaborne: i'd rather not make a value judgement about reification. ←
16:28:58 <davidwood> ack cygri
David Wood: ack cygri ←
16:28:58 <Zakim> cygri, you wanted to mention Talis changesets
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri, you wanted to mention Talis changesets ←
16:29:10 <ericP> ... it's used in fewer cases than before, but still sometimes the right thing to do
... it's used in fewer cases than before, but still sometimes the right thing to do ←
16:29:36 <ericP> cygri: at the beginning of the WG, we mentioned that Talis used reification for their change sets
Richard Cyganiak: at the beginning of the WG, we mentioned that Talis used reification for their change sets ←
16:29:36 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
16:29:36 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
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16:30:23 <ericP> ... they've left that line of business ('cause of reificiation...?)
... they've left that line of business ('cause of reificiation...?) ←
16:30:42 <ericP> macted: they've left the public service part of that business but still do it in private
Ted Thibodeau: they've left the public service part of that business but still do it in private ←
16:31:27 <davidwood> q?
David Wood: q? ←
16:31:35 <ericP> cygri: in private has less weight for us, but yes, we can document that there are multiple ways to accomplish these goals
Richard Cyganiak: in private has less weight for us, but yes, we can document that there are multiple ways to accomplish these goals ←
16:32:21 <ericP> PatH: it's not correct to say that named graphs provide an alternative 'cause it doesn't have a semantics.
Patrick Hayes: it's not correct to say that named graphs provide an alternative 'cause it doesn't have a semantics. ←
16:32:46 <ericP> ... reification does have a semantics; it's just not normative
... reification does have a semantics; it's just not normative ←
16:33:21 <ericP> cygri: the reification semantics are *neither* normative or informative
Richard Cyganiak: the reification semantics are *neither* normative nor formal ←
16:33:33 <davidwood> PROPOSAL: Close ISSUE-25 by saying that this WG will not deprecate reification of statements. We will note informatively in the RDF Schema spec that named graphs and RDF datasets are another mechanism to accomplish the same goals.
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-25 by saying that this WG will not deprecate reification of statements. We will note informatively in the RDF Schema spec that named graphs and RDF datasets are another mechanism to accomplish the same goals. ←
16:33:40 <cygri> s/or informative/nor formal/
16:33:47 <yvesr> +1
Yves Raimond: +1 ←
16:33:54 <cygri> +1
Richard Cyganiak: +1 ←
16:33:55 <FabGandon> +1
Fabien Gandon: +1 ←
16:33:55 <zwu2> +1
16:33:57 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
16:33:59 <ericP> davidwood: i think we don't have agreement about the text for guiding users
David Wood: i think we don't have agreement about the text for guiding users ←
16:33:59 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
16:34:02 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
16:34:02 <pchampin> +1
16:34:04 <ericP> ... but this is the best we can do
... but this is the best we can do ←
16:34:04 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
16:34:04 <Arnaud> +1
Arnaud Le Hors: +1 ←
16:34:05 <ericP> +1
+1 ←
16:34:08 <Souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
16:34:12 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
16:34:12 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted ←
16:34:12 <AZ> +1
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 ←
16:34:20 <cygri> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-25 by saying that this WG will not deprecate reification of statements. We will note informatively in the RDF Schema spec that named graphs and RDF datasets are another mechanism to accomplish the same goals.
RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-25 by saying that this WG will not deprecate reification of statements. We will note informatively in the RDF Schema spec that named graphs and RDF datasets are another mechanism to accomplish the same goals. ←
16:34:29 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
16:34:29 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should no longer be muted ←
16:35:00 <cygri> subtopic: Errata and comments mailing list
16:36:24 <ericP> davidwood: we have earlier issues, issue-3 and issue-6, about handling errata
David Wood: we have earlier issues, ISSUE-3 and ISSUE-6, about handling errata ←
16:36:37 <ericP> ... gus summarized the errata in Oct 2012
... Guus summarized the errata in Oct 2012 ←
16:36:50 <ericP> s/gus/Guus/
16:37:02 <ericP> davidwood: any volunteers to cleaning that up?
David Wood: any volunteers to cleaning that up? ←
16:37:04 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
16:37:09 <davidwood> ack cygri
David Wood: ack cygri ←
16:37:48 <ericP> cygri: issue-3 seems to be about reviewing everything sent to the mailing list
Richard Cyganiak: ISSUE-3 seems to be about reviewing everything sent to the mailing list ←
16:37:58 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/errata
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/errata ←
16:38:06 <ericP> ... issue-6 is about reviewing the well-structured errata page
... ISSUE-6 is about reviewing the well-structured errata page ←
16:38:26 <davidwood> Guus' summary of errata and issues: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Oct/0234.html
David Wood: Guus' summary of errata and issues: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Oct/0234.html ←
16:38:58 <ericP> ... some errata for RDF/XML, some for Semantics and 2 for test cases
... some errata for RDF/XML, some for Semantics and 2 for test cases ←
16:39:59 <ericP> ericP: actions on the spec editors for those specs?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: actions on the spec editors for those specs? ←
16:40:19 <ericP> PatH: action to review, incorporate and report
Patrick Hayes: action to review, incorporate and report ←
16:40:42 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
16:40:42 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted ←
16:41:13 <ericP> Guus: my message has a long list of errata, not separated by doc
Guus Schreiber: my message has a long list of errata, not separated by doc ←
16:41:23 <ericP> cygri: which were already captured on the errata page?
Richard Cyganiak: which were already captured on the errata page? ←
16:41:49 <ericP> Guus: none. I intended to take only those not covered by the errata page
Guus Schreiber: none. I intended to take only those not covered by the errata page ←
16:42:51 <ericP> davidwood: we need to raise all of these as potential issues and decide which to open
David Wood: we need to raise all of these as potential issues and decide which to open ←
16:43:41 <ericP> ACTION: Guus to partition by document the issues in his summary and raise issues on the appropriate documents
ACTION: Guus to partition by document the issues in his summary and raise issues on the appropriate documents ←
16:43:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-223 - Partition by document the issues in his summary and raise issues on the appropriate documents [on Guus Schreiber - due 2013-01-30].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-223 - Partition by document the issues in his summary and raise issues on the appropriate documents [on Guus Schreiber - due 2013-01-30]. ←
16:44:00 <cygri> subtopic: ISSUE-62, semantic error in test cases manifest
16:44:20 <ericP> davidwood: in issue-62, the test cases manifest has a semantic error
David Wood: in ISSUE-62, the test cases manifest has a semantic error ←
16:44:39 <ericP> ... we decided 1.5 years ago that we need to look at this.
... we decided 1.5 years ago that we need to look at this. ←
16:45:02 <ericP> ACTION: PatH to review and report on ISSUE-62
ACTION: PatH to review and report on ISSUE-62 ←
16:45:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-224 - Review and report on ISSUE-62 [on Patrick Hayes - due 2013-01-30].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-224 - Review and report on ISSUE-62 [on Patrick Hayes - due 2013-01-30]. ←
16:45:06 <AndyS> Hmm - it's used by other groups already.
Andy Seaborne: Hmm - it's used by other groups already. ←
16:45:14 <davidwood> q?
David Wood: q? ←
16:45:30 <davidwood> Topic: Extension Request
16:45:46 <ericP> davidwood: this needs to be done within the week
David Wood: this needs to be done within the week ←
16:45:48 <davidwood> Draft in progress: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Rdf-extension.html
David Wood: Draft in progress: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Rdf-extension.html ←
16:45:52 <ericP> ... i have a draft on the wiki
... i have a draft on the wiki ←
16:46:07 <ericP> ... i'm basing that off of the PROV WG's extension request
... i'm basing that off of the PROV WG's extension request ←
16:46:10 <davidwood> …based on PROV-WG's extension request: https://www.w3.org/2012/08/prov-extension.html
David Wood: …based on PROV-WG's extension request: https://www.w3.org/2012/08/prov-extension.html ←
16:46:34 <ericP> ... next step is to make a list of our document states
... next step is to make a list of our document states ←
16:46:43 <ericP> ... Last Calls, CRs, etc.
... Last Calls, CRs, etc. ←
16:47:19 <ericP> ... the draft already has a list of docs, but it would be nice if editors would update their versions
... the draft already has a list of docs, but it would be nice if editors would update their versions ←
16:48:11 <ericP> ... ivan will want to see this done when he gets back from bejing
... ivan will want to see this done when he gets back from bejing ←
16:51:04 <ericP> ACTION: ericP to update extension request with Turtle publication dates
ACTION: ericP to update extension request with Turtle publication dates ←
16:51:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-225 - Update extension request with Turtle publication dates [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2013-01-30].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-225 - Update extension request with Turtle publication dates [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2013-01-30]. ←
16:52:28 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
16:52:29 <ericP> davidwood: we've been waiting for semantics and concepts to align
David Wood: we've been waiting for semantics and concepts to align ←
16:52:46 <ericP> ... we spent two years getting consensus
... we spent two years getting consensus ←
16:52:54 <ericP> ... now that we have that, they should roll out quickly
... now that we have that, they should roll out quickly ←
16:53:12 <ericP> cygri: and having consensus, the editorial changes are minimal
Richard Cyganiak: and having consensus, the editorial changes are minimal ←
16:53:16 <davidwood> ack cygri
David Wood: ack cygri ←
16:53:29 <ericP> PatH: in the Semantics docs, the changes are deletions
Patrick Hayes: in the Semantics docs, the changes are deletions ←
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17:35:01 <Zakim> Attendees were AndyS, gkellogg, yvesr, Guus, davidwood, TallTed, Souri, EricP, Arnaud, pchampin, zwu2, AZ, cygri, FabGandon, PatH
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