Agenda PROV-WG telecon 12 April 2012

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Admin

• Chair: Luc Moreau
• Scribe: James Cheney
• Regrets: Paul Groth

• Minutes of the April 05 2012 Telecon
• Review OPEN Action Items
• Scribes

PAQ

• New draft available from: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/paq/prov-aq.html
• prov-aq needs reviewers
• agree on timetable
• Questions for reviewers:
  • Is this ready for release as a working draft?
  • Is the service specification now meeting expectations?
  • Are additions or modifications necessary?

Word from the chairs

• Reminder of our agreed strategy http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-02-02#resolution_1
  • Ambitions should be inline with agreed timetable
  • Timetable is essentially not negotiable
  • We agreed on a synchronized release of all documents; prov-o hasn't had a release since Xmas

Release of documents

• Check whether all reviews are in
• Recommendation summary
  • Prov-dm - Tim (yes-ish), Khalid (yes), Satya (?), Curt (yes), Jun (yes), GK (no);
  • Prov-dm-constraints - James (no), Tim (no), Graham (no);
  • Prov-N - Khalid (yes), Simon (yes-ish), Tim (yes), James (yes)
  • Prov-O: Luc (yes), Paul (yes), Simon (yes), Sam (yes), macted (?)
  • Prov-PRIMER: Paolo (yes), Christine (?), Curt (yes), Luc (yes)

• Two options:
  • Option A (release early): Stick to the timetable, make minor changes, vote for formal release on 19th, get external feedback, in parallel confront challenging issues.
  • Option B (delay release): Confront challenging issues, force resolution, delay release.
• In any case, time-bounded tackling of issues, resulting in: consensus to incorporate in LC or drop from REC documents
• Vote on option

Challenging Issues

• PROV-DM-Constraints
  • Editorial team bottleneck. James joining the team.
• PROV-N
  • Looking for someone who could write a YACC grammar (also to help generate html automatically)
• PROV-O
• PROV-PRIMER
• PROV-DM
  • Specialization/Alternate
    • http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Apr/0156.html
    • Who is taking the lead?
    • Timetable?
  • Responsibility
    • see section 2.4 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Apr/0110.html
      • "... I can't see a software agent as being accountable. "
    • word "Responsibility" overloaded: see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Apr/0111.html
  • Collections
    • see section 4.5 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Apr/0110.html
    • are we restrictive by defining collections as key-value map, is this appropriate?
  • Account
    • At F2F2, we agreed to put this on a back burner until reorganization is addressed
    • Propose to work on this after synchronized release
  • Annotations
    • Linked (or not) to accounts ISSUE-260
  • Invalidation/Destruction

AOB