Minutes of March 28, 2013 meetings were approved. All action items were closed.
The group went over the current AC Rep voting. Currently 16 replies. Encouraged members to reach out to their AC Reps or AC Reps they know.
Blog posts on dublic core and edbt tutorials were posted. Blog post on PAQ and RDFa will go up next week. Thanks to Daniel, Stian, Paolo for writing posts.
Paul is still working on it hopes to send by Monday
Stephan just published a version for review. FAQ on JAXB will come later. Paul, Luc, Tom to review. James will ask Henry Thompson about possibly reviewing. Reviews are due by Thursday.
Reviews have been received from Stian and Luc. Sam's review will be received after the call. The reviews have no blocking issues but there are issues to be addressed. Graham will circulate information in the coming week.
Draft is almost done. Made available for reviewers to begin to review. Simon, Tom and Satya will review. Tom has asked a colleague to have a look as well. Reviews are due by Thursday. Luc will attempt a quick review.
All reviews were positive with only minor changes. The group voted to release the primer as a final working group note.
all reviews were received for prov-dc. Stian had one concern about the mapping of version. The group agreed to continue the discussion on this to the mailing list. Vote will be had next telcon.
There were no blocking issues but quite some changes to address, thus the vote was delayed till next week.
4 reviews were received, Luc will read and respond in detail later.
No change to implementations except for the need to rerun scripts to update the tables. The group agreed that there was no need for a re-review.
Luc created a full provenance trace for all the documents. We discussed the issue of identifying authors. There was some consensus to use the working group wiki page's to identify people. Editors can either use this provenance trace or create their own.
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14:40:20 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be PROV
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14:40:20 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 20 minutes
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14:40:21 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
14:40:21 <trackbot> Date: 04 April 2013
14:53:45 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: Provenance WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/ -- agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.04.04
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14:55:14 <Zakim> SW_(PROV)11:00AM has now started
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14:55:21 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:55:36 <pgroth> trackbot, start telcon
Paul Groth: trackbot, start telcon ←
14:55:38 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:55:40 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be PROV
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14:55:40 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM already started
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14:55:41 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
14:55:41 <trackbot> Date: 04 April 2013
14:55:43 <pgroth> Zakim, this will be PROV
Paul Groth: Zakim, this will be PROV ←
14:55:44 <Zakim> ok, pgroth, I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, pgroth, I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM already started ←
14:56:19 <pgroth> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.04.04
14:56:30 <pgroth> Chair: Paul Groth
14:56:37 <pgroth> rrsagent, make logs public
Paul Groth: rrsagent, make logs public ←
14:56:42 <pgroth> zakim, who is on the call?
Paul Groth: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:56:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see [IPcaller] ←
14:56:50 <pgroth> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me
Paul Groth: Zakim, [IPcaller] is me ←
14:56:50 <Zakim> +pgroth; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgroth; got it ←
14:57:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:58:49 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
14:59:15 <pgroth> can anyone scribe?
Paul Groth: can anyone scribe? ←
14:59:17 <christine> Zakim, [IPcaller.a] is christine
Christine Runnegar: Zakim, [IPcaller.a] is christine ←
14:59:17 <Zakim> +christine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +christine; got it ←
14:59:33 <Zakim> +??P6
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6 ←
14:59:48 <Zakim> +??P10
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10 ←
14:59:49 <GK> zakim, ??p6 is me
Graham Klyne: zakim, ??p6 is me ←
14:59:51 <Zakim> +GK; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +GK; got it ←
14:59:56 <dgarijo> Zakim, ??P10 is me
Daniel Garijo: Zakim, ??P10 is me ←
14:59:56 <Zakim> +dgarijo; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +dgarijo; got it ←
15:00:13 <pgroth> scribe: christine
(Scribe set to Christine Runnegar)
15:00:31 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
15:00:32 <Zakim> + +1.661.748.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.661.748.aaaa ←
15:00:46 <pgroth> Zakim, who is on the call?
Paul Groth: Zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:00:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgroth, [IPcaller], christine, GK, dgarijo, [IPcaller.a], +1.661.748.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgroth, [IPcaller], christine, GK, dgarijo, [IPcaller.a], +1.661.748.aaaa ←
15:00:53 <stain> zakim, « and » is me
Stian Soiland-Reyes: zakim, « and » is me ←
15:00:53 <Zakim> I don't understand '« and » is me', stain
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '« and » is me', stain ←
15:00:56 <stain> args!
Stian Soiland-Reyes: args! ←
15:01:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aa]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.aa] ←
15:01:12 <smiles> zakim, +1.661.748.aaaa is me
Simon Miles: zakim, +1.661.748.aaaa is me ←
15:01:12 <Zakim> +smiles; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +smiles; got it ←
15:01:13 <Luc_> zakim, +[IPcaller.aa] is me
Luc Moreau: zakim, +[IPcaller.aa] is me ←
15:01:13 <Zakim> sorry, Luc_, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller.aa]'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Luc_, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller.aa]' ←
15:01:17 <stain> zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me
Stian Soiland-Reyes: zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me ←
15:01:17 <Zakim> +stain; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +stain; got it ←
15:01:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
15:01:22 <pgroth> Topic: Admin
Summary: Minutes of March 28, 2013 meetings were approved. All action items were closed.
<pgroth> Summary: Minutes of March 28, 2013 meetings were approved. All action items were closed.
15:01:28 <Luc_> zakim, [IPcaller.aa] is me
Luc Moreau: zakim, [IPcaller.aa] is me ←
15:01:28 <Zakim> +Luc_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Luc_; got it ←
15:01:29 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2013-03-28
Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2013-03-28 ←
15:01:36 <pgroth> Minutes of March 28, 2013 Telcon
Paul Groth: Minutes of March 28, 2013 Telcon ←
15:01:41 <dgarijo> +1
Daniel Garijo: +1 ←
15:01:45 <christine> Vote on minutes of last week
Vote on minutes of last week ←
15:01:48 <khalidBelhajjame> +1
Khalid Belhajjame: +1 ←
15:01:51 <GK> +1
Graham Klyne: +1 ←
15:01:58 <smiles> +1
Simon Miles: +1 ←
15:02:01 <khalidBelhajjame> zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me
Khalid Belhajjame: zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me ←
15:02:02 <stain> +1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 ←
15:02:03 <Zakim> +khalidBelhajjame; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +khalidBelhajjame; got it ←
15:02:23 <Zakim> +Satya_Sahoo
Zakim IRC Bot: +Satya_Sahoo ←
15:02:26 <Paolo> +1
Paolo Missier: +1 ←
15:02:26 <pgroth> accepted: Minutes of March 28, 2013 Telcon
RESOLVED: Minutes of March 28, 2013 Telcon ←
15:02:38 <Zakim> + +1.818.731.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.818.731.aabb ←
15:02:38 <christine> Review of Open Action Items
Review of Open Action Items ←
15:02:48 <christine> Update to editorial (for Paul)
Update to editorial (for Paul) ←
15:02:49 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software ←
15:02:54 <ivan> zakim, code?
Ivan Herman: zakim, code? ←
15:02:54 <Zakim> the conference code is 7768 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7768 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan ←
15:02:59 <christine> Closed - Graham took care of this
Closed - Graham took care of this ←
15:03:14 <Zakim> +ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +ivan ←
15:03:16 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←
15:03:16 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +TallTed; got it ←
15:03:18 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
15:03:18 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted ←
15:03:21 <christine> Blog post action items are also closed
Blog post action items are also closed ←
15:03:38 <pgroth> Topic: AC Rep Reminder
Summary: The group went over the current AC Rep voting. Currently 16 replies. Encouraged members to reach out to their AC Reps or AC Reps they know.
<pgroth> Summary: The group went over the current AC Rep voting. Currently 16 replies. Encouraged members to reach out to their AC Reps or AC Reps they know.
15:03:52 <pgroth> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/provpf/results
Paul Groth: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/provpf/results ←
15:04:01 <christine> Results of current voting see link above
Results of current voting see link above ←
15:04:07 <christine> 16 votes so far
16 votes so far ←
15:04:25 <christine> Quite good. It would be good to have more votes.
Quite good. It would be good to have more votes. ←
15:04:43 <christine> Still waiting for some replies. We may get up to 19 votes by next week.
Still waiting for some replies. We may get up to 19 votes by next week. ←
15:04:58 <Zakim> +TomDN
Zakim IRC Bot: +TomDN ←
15:05:06 <TomDN> Zakim, mute me
Tom De Nies: Zakim, mute me ←
15:05:06 <Zakim> TomDN should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should now be muted ←
15:05:09 <christine> Paul: Please make sure your AC Reps vote.
Paul Groth: Please make sure your AC Reps vote. ←
15:05:12 <pgroth> 1?
Paul Groth: 1? ←
15:05:14 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:05:25 <pgroth> Topic: Blog Posts
Summary: Blog posts on dublic core and edbt tutorials were posted. Blog post on PAQ and RDFa will go up next week. Thanks to Daniel, Stian, Paolo for writing posts.
<pgroth> Summary: Blog posts on dublic core and edbt tutorials were posted. Blog post on PAQ and RDFa will go up next week. Thanks to Daniel, Stian, Paolo for writing posts.
15:05:33 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2013/03/29/dublin-core-to-prov-mapping/
Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2013/03/29/dublin-core-to-prov-mapping/ ←
15:05:40 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2013/04/03/successful-prov-tutorial-at-edbt/
Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2013/04/03/successful-prov-tutorial-at-edbt/ ←
15:05:43 <christine> Paul: 2 blog posts in the last week - see links above
Paul Groth: 2 blog posts in the last week - see links above ←
15:06:13 <dgarijo> yes
Daniel Garijo: yes ←
15:06:16 <stain> yes
Stian Soiland-Reyes: yes ←
15:06:29 <christine> Thanks to Daniel and Stain for two additional blog posts
Thanks to Daniel and Stain for two additional blog posts ←
15:06:34 <dgarijo> no problem :)
Daniel Garijo: no problem :) ←
15:06:35 <christine> They will be posted in the next week
They will be posted in the next week ←
15:06:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
15:07:03 <pgroth> - Topic: PROV-SEM
Paul Groth: - Topic: PROV-SEM ←
15:07:05 <christine> Paul: review of outstanding items
Paul Groth: review of outstanding items ←
15:07:23 <SamCoppens> zakim, I am with TomDN
Sam Coppens: zakim, I am with TomDN ←
15:07:23 <Zakim> +SamCoppens; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SamCoppens; got it ←
15:07:25 <Zakim> +jcheney
Zakim IRC Bot: +jcheney ←
15:07:25 <Zakim> -jcheney
Zakim IRC Bot: -jcheney ←
15:07:26 <pgroth> james?
Paul Groth: james? ←
15:07:27 <christine> Paul: is PROV-SEM ready to be sent out for review?
Paul Groth: is PROV-SEM ready to be sent out for review? ←
15:07:35 <jcheney> just tried calling in will try again
James Cheney: just tried calling in will try again ←
15:07:46 <jcheney> sorry
James Cheney: sorry ←
15:07:47 <christine> Moving to another item
Moving to another item ←
15:07:50 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-Overview
Summary: Paul is still working on it hopes to send by Monday
<pgroth> Summary: Paul is still working on it hopes to send by Monday
15:08:17 <christine> Paul: Not ready - edits not finished - more time needed - hopefully can sent out by Monday of next week
Paul Groth: Not ready - edits not finished - more time needed - hopefully can sent out by Monday of next week ←
15:08:22 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:08:45 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-XML
Summary: Stephan just published a version for review. FAQ on JAXB will come later. Paul, Luc, Tom to review. James will ask Henry Thompson about possibly reviewing. Reviews are due by Thursday.
<pgroth> Summary: Stephan just published a version for review. FAQ on JAXB will come later. Paul, Luc, Tom to review. James will ask Henry Thompson about possibly reviewing. Reviews are due by Thursday.
15:08:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aa]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.aa] ←
15:08:59 <jcheney> zakim, +[ipcaller.aa] is me
James Cheney: zakim, +[ipcaller.aa] is me ←
15:08:59 <Zakim> sorry, jcheney, I do not recognize a party named '+[ipcaller.aa]'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, jcheney, I do not recognize a party named '+[ipcaller.aa]' ←
15:09:01 <christine> Update from Stephen
Update from Stephen ←
15:09:05 <jcheney> zakim, aa is me
James Cheney: zakim, aa is me ←
15:09:05 <Zakim> sorry, jcheney, I do not recognize a party named 'aa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, jcheney, I do not recognize a party named 'aa' ←
15:09:08 <jcheney> zakim, aa] is me
James Cheney: zakim, aa] is me ←
15:09:08 <Zakim> sorry, jcheney, I do not recognize a party named 'aa]'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, jcheney, I do not recognize a party named 'aa]' ←
15:09:13 <jcheney> zakim, [ipcaller.aa] is me
James Cheney: zakim, [ipcaller.aa] is me ←
15:09:13 <Zakim> +jcheney; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jcheney; got it ←
15:09:24 <christine> Stephen: is ready for review but is missing the FAQ entry
Stephan Zednik: is ready for review but is missing the FAQ entry ←
15:09:38 <christine> but the note content is ready for review
but the note content is ready for review ←
15:09:48 <Luc_> s/Stephen/zednik/
15:09:51 <christine> Paul: is the schema finalised?
Paul Groth: is the schema finalised? ←
15:10:21 <christine> Stephen: yes but FAQ may introduce a modification to the new schema but not a change to the schema - so my intention that it is finalised
Stephen Cresswell: yes but FAQ may introduce a modification to the new schema but not a change to the schema - so my intention that it is finalised ←
15:10:29 <christine> Paul: review by what date?
Paul Groth: review by what date? ←
15:10:54 <christine> Stephen: staged last night - not sure
Stephen Cresswell: staged last night - not sure ←
15:11:10 <christine> Paul: original reviews by 4 and changes by 15
Paul Groth: original reviews by 4 and changes by 15 ←
15:11:29 <christine> Paul: if reviewed by 11 can you incorporate changes by 15
Paul Groth: if reviewed by 11 can you incorporate changes by 15 ←
15:11:52 <christine> Stephen: hope so - small changes ok - but 11th and 15th should work
Stephen Cresswell: hope so - small changes ok - but 11th and 15th should work ←
15:11:59 <christine> Paul: reviewer?
Paul Groth: reviewer? ←
15:12:03 <Luc_> +1
Luc Moreau: +1 ←
15:12:16 <pgroth> +1
Paul Groth: +1 ←
15:12:22 <TomDN> +1
Tom De Nies: +1 ←
15:12:45 <christine> Paul: any responses from our last publication of it?
Paul Groth: any responses from our last publication of it? ←
15:12:57 <christine> ? from Luc
? from Luc ←
15:13:18 <christine> Paul: will try to get someone from Oracle to take a look
Paul Groth: will try to get someone from Oracle to take a look ←
15:13:58 <christine> and would be good for Henry to review
and would be good for Henry to review ←
15:14:10 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:14:28 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-AQ
Summary: Reviews have been received from Stian and Luc. Sam's review will be received after the call. The reviews have no blocking issues but there are issues to be addressed. Graham will circulate information in the coming week.
<pgroth> Summary: Reviews have been received from Stian and Luc. Sam's review will be received after the call. The reviews have no blocking issues but there are issues to be addressed. Graham will circulate information in the coming week.
15:14:34 <SamCoppens> zakim, unmute me
Sam Coppens: zakim, unmute me ←
15:14:34 <Zakim> sorry, SamCoppens, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, SamCoppens, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
15:14:52 <SamCoppens> My review is following tonight
Sam Coppens: My review is following tonight ←
15:15:06 <christine> Graham: we have reviews in now from Stain and Luc - not one from Sam yet - had a cursory look at the review - not aware of any blocker there
Graham Klyne: we have reviews in now from Stain and Luc - not one from Sam yet - had a cursory look at the review - not aware of any blocker there ←
15:15:09 <SamCoppens> but no blocking issues from my side
Sam Coppens: but no blocking issues from my side ←
15:15:50 <christine> Graham: plan to review in detail in the coming week and finalise the document by this time next week - and then aim to hand over to Paul to finish up as will be out of circulation in 2 weeks time
Graham Klyne: plan to review in detail in the coming week and finalise the document by this time next week - and then aim to hand over to Paul to finish up as will be out of circulation in 2 weeks time ←
15:16:05 <christine> Paul: Stain and Luc, could we vote to be a final note?
Paul Groth: Stain and Luc, could we vote to be a final note? ←
15:16:08 <Luc_> q+
Luc Moreau: q+ ←
15:16:45 <SamCoppens> zakim, unmute TomDN
Sam Coppens: zakim, unmute TomDN ←
15:16:45 <Zakim> TomDN should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should no longer be muted ←
15:16:49 <pgroth> ack Luc_
Paul Groth: ack Luc_ ←
15:17:15 <SamCoppens> q+
Sam Coppens: q+ ←
15:17:21 <christine> Luc: we want to publish the note - some comments are more serious than Graham said - related to ping back - would like to see some responses to my comments
Luc Moreau: we want to publish the note - some comments are more serious than Graham said - related to ping back - would like to see some responses to my comments ←
15:17:23 <pgroth> ack SamCoppens
Paul Groth: ack SamCoppens ←
15:17:40 <christine> Sam: read the document today - will send review tonight - no blocking issues
Sam Coppens: read the document today - will send review tonight - no blocking issues ←
15:17:48 <stain> q+
Stian Soiland-Reyes: q+ ←
15:17:51 <GK> I'll need to look in more detail at Luc;s comments, and the others - I'll respond when I do so.
Graham Klyne: I'll need to look in more detail at Luc;s comments, and the others - I'll respond when I do so. ←
15:18:10 <pgroth> ack stain
Paul Groth: ack stain ←
15:18:27 <christine> Stain: no blocking issues but some of my issues are more serious
Stian Soiland-Reyes: no blocking issues but some of my issues are more serious ←
15:18:32 <SamCoppens> zakim, mute TomDN
Sam Coppens: zakim, mute TomDN ←
15:18:32 <Zakim> TomDN should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should now be muted ←
15:18:44 <christine> Paul: then let's wait for next week for the vote
Paul Groth: then let's wait for next week for the vote ←
15:19:06 <christine> to ensure issues are addressed before vote
to ensure issues are addressed before vote ←
15:19:06 <jcheney> q+
James Cheney: q+ ←
15:19:15 <pgroth> ack jcheney
Paul Groth: ack jcheney ←
15:19:29 <christine> jcheney: need reviewers for PROV-SEM
James Cheney: need reviewers for PROV-SEM ←
15:19:48 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-SEM
Summary: Draft is almost done. Made available for reviewers to begin to review. Simon, Tom and Satya will review. Tom has asked a colleague to have a look as well. Reviews are due by Thursday. Luc will attempt a quick review.
<pgroth> Summary: Draft is almost done. Made available for reviewers to begin to review. Simon, Tom and Satya will review. Tom has asked a colleague to have a look as well. Reviews are due by Thursday. Luc will attempt a quick review.
15:19:56 <jcheney> draft almost done: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/semantics/releases/NOTE-prov-sem-20130430/Overview.html
James Cheney: draft almost done: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/semantics/releases/NOTE-prov-sem-20130430/Overview.html ←
15:20:05 <GK> I'd like to review PROV-SEM, but cannot be sure I'll have time in the coming week.
Graham Klyne: I'd like to review PROV-SEM, but cannot be sure I'll have time in the coming week. ←
15:20:38 <christine> jcheney: vote on everything next week?
James Cheney: vote on everything next week? ←
15:20:45 <christine> Paul: yes (if not today)
Paul Groth: yes (if not today) ←
15:21:16 <christine> jcheney: better if reviewers can look now rather than waiting for it to be completely done
James Cheney: better if reviewers can look now rather than waiting for it to be completely done ←
15:21:22 <khalidBelhajjame> I ll review it
Khalid Belhajjame: I ll review it ←
15:21:23 <TomDN> Zakim, unmute me
Tom De Nies: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:21:23 <Zakim> TomDN should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should no longer be muted ←
15:21:26 <TomDN> q+
Tom De Nies: q+ ←
15:21:32 <christine> Paul: reviewers
Paul Groth: reviewers ←
15:21:33 <pgroth> ack TomDN
Paul Groth: ack TomDN ←
15:21:55 <smiles> I can review it
Simon Miles: I can review it ←
15:21:55 <christine> Tom: a colleague (logic/maths background) and Tom will review
Tom De Nies: a colleague (logic/maths background) and Tom will review ←
15:22:00 <Paolo> when is it due again?
Paolo Missier: when is it due again? ←
15:22:02 <GK> I'd like to review PROV-SEM, but cannot be sure I'll have time in the coming week
Graham Klyne: I'd like to review PROV-SEM, but cannot be sure I'll have time in the coming week ←
15:22:06 <TomDN> Zakim, mute me
Tom De Nies: Zakim, mute me ←
15:22:06 <Zakim> TomDN should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should now be muted ←
15:22:09 <christine> Paul: review due by next Thursday
Paul Groth: review due by next Thursday ←
15:22:24 <Paolo> would love to but on leave, sorry...
Paolo Missier: would love to but on leave, sorry... ←
15:22:48 <Luc_> q+
Luc Moreau: q+ ←
15:22:48 <satya> I will try to complete
Satya Sahoo: I will try to complete ←
15:22:53 <christine> jcheney: goal to have something complete - anything controversial will have to be left out
James Cheney: goal to have something complete - anything controversial will have to be left out ←
15:23:10 <pgroth> ack Luc_
Paul Groth: ack Luc_ ←
15:23:28 <christine> Luc: What change has been regarding this issue [?]
Luc Moreau: What change has been regarding this issue [?] ←
15:24:11 <christine> jcheney: to get semantics general enough to not constrain the formal constraints - less of the connection to the inituitve model but necessary
James Cheney: to get semantics general enough to not constrain the formal constraints - less of the connection to the inituitve model but necessary ←
15:24:27 <christine> jcheney: takes a while to figure out the right way to do that
James Cheney: takes a while to figure out the right way to do that ←
15:24:33 <pgroth> reviewers - Tom, Khalid, (tom's colleague), simon, satya,
Paul Groth: reviewers - Tom, Khalid, (tom's colleague), simon, satya, ←
15:24:41 <Luc_> +1 will attempt a quick review
Luc Moreau: +1 will attempt a quick review ←
15:24:53 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-Primer
Summary: All reviews were positive with only minor changes. The group voted to release the primer as a final working group note.
<pgroth> Summary: All reviews were positive with only minor changes. The group voted to release the primer as a final working group note.
15:25:14 <christine> smiles: received some reviews - only outstanding is from Craig
Simon Miles: received some reviews - only outstanding is from Craig ←
15:25:34 <christine> smiles: don't see any blocking issues - will make the changes by next week - timeframe is okay
Simon Miles: don't see any blocking issues - will make the changes by next week - timeframe is okay ←
15:25:36 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:25:42 <khalidBelhajjame> It read well, no comment really
Khalid Belhajjame: It read well, no comment really ←
15:26:01 <christine> Paul: agree, only a need for some minor changes
Paul Groth: agree, only a need for some minor changes ←
15:26:07 <christine> Paul: vote now
Paul Groth: vote now ←
15:26:25 <pgroth> proposed: release prov-primer as a final note
PROPOSED: release prov-primer as a final note ←
15:26:28 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:26:31 <khalidBelhajjame> +1
Khalid Belhajjame: +1 ←
15:26:32 <GK> +1
Graham Klyne: +1 ←
15:26:36 <jcheney> +1
James Cheney: +1 ←
15:26:37 <zednik> +1
Stephan Zednik: +1 ←
15:26:38 <satya> +1
Satya Sahoo: +1 ←
15:26:39 <TomDN> +1
Tom De Nies: +1 ←
15:26:40 <dgarijo> +1
Daniel Garijo: +1 ←
15:26:41 <hook> +1
15:26:42 <stain> +1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 ←
15:26:55 <SamCoppens> +1
Sam Coppens: +1 ←
15:27:01 <Paolo> +1
Paolo Missier: +1 ←
15:27:12 <Luc_> +1
Luc Moreau: +1 ←
15:27:22 <pgroth> accepted: release prov-primer as a final note
RESOLVED: release prov-primer as a final note ←
15:27:30 <smiles> Great, thanks :)
Simon Miles: Great, thanks :) ←
15:27:37 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-DC
Summary: all reviews were received for prov-dc. Stian had one concern about the mapping of version. The group agreed to continue the discussion on this to the mailing list. Vote will be had next telcon.
<pgroth> Summary: all reviews were received for prov-dc. Stian had one concern about the mapping of version. The group agreed to continue the discussion on this to the mailing list. Vote will be had next telcon.
15:27:38 <christine> Paul: congrats Simon and Yolanda
Paul Groth: congrats Simon and Yolanda ←
15:28:01 <christine> - received a couple of reviews - no blocking issues
- received a couple of reviews - no blocking issues ←
15:28:06 <stain> q+
Stian Soiland-Reyes: q+ ←
15:28:09 <christine> - missing a review by Stain
- missing a review by Stain ←
15:28:27 <pgroth> ack stain
Paul Groth: ack stain ←
15:28:43 <christine> Stain: almost finished - some changes re mapping but should be able to be done in the week
Stian Soiland-Reyes: almost finished - some changes re mapping but should be able to be done in the week ←
15:28:53 <christine> Paul: given that, do not want to vote now
Paul Groth: given that, do not want to vote now ←
15:29:04 <christine> Paul: Tom's review was very long. What was the main issue?
Paul Groth: Tom's review was very long. What was the main issue? ←
15:29:49 <christine> - issue with how we declare the classes - specialising the ontology and also a lot of editorial issues with intro and also with naming spaces - no criticism of the mapppings - so i think no blocking issues
- issue with how we declare the classes - specialising the ontology and also a lot of editorial issues with intro and also with naming spaces - no criticism of the mapppings - so i think no blocking issues ←
15:29:59 <christine> Paul: Stain, which mapping to change?
Paul Groth: Stain, which mapping to change? ←
15:30:05 <christine> Stain: the is version
Stian Soiland-Reyes: the is version ←
15:31:10 <christine> - analysed defns and realised they are equivalent - version and revisions {/}
- analysed defns and realised they are equivalent - version and revisions {/} ←
15:31:57 <christine> - not necessarily a directional element - don't want to go into the detail now
- not necessarily a directional element - don't want to go into the detail now ←
15:32:06 <christine> Paul: only one?
Paul Groth: only one? ←
15:32:10 <christine> - yes
- yes ←
15:32:15 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:32:22 <christine> Paul: debate the issue online and delay the vote to next week
Paul Groth: debate the issue online and delay the vote to next week ←
15:32:31 <TomDN> Zakim, unmute me
Tom De Nies: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:32:31 <Zakim> TomDN should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should no longer be muted ←
15:32:33 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-Dictionary
Summary: There were no blocking issues but quite some changes to address, thus the vote was delayed till next week.
<pgroth> Summary: There were no blocking issues but quite some changes to address, thus the vote was delayed till next week.
15:33:08 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:33:08 <Luc_> +1
Luc Moreau: +1 ←
15:33:17 <christine> TomDN: review from Luc and Simon, thanks, no blocking issues, have enough time, give an update next week, do not forsee problems
Tom De Nies: review from Luc and Simon, thanks, no blocking issues, have enough time, give an update next week, do not forsee problems ←
15:33:18 <Luc_> +q
Luc Moreau: +q ←
15:33:20 <TomDN> q+
Tom De Nies: q+ ←
15:33:27 <pgroth> ack Luc_
Paul Groth: ack Luc_ ←
15:34:07 <christine> Luc: in my review, indicated I have implemented PROV-Dictionary, but it turns out it was not working - it took a while to find problem - extensibility production and the new productions conflict
Luc Moreau: in my review, indicated I have implemented PROV-Dictionary, but it turns out it was not working - it took a while to find problem - extensibility production and the new productions conflict ←
15:34:37 <christine> Luc: problem will also occur in PROV-LINKS
Luc Moreau: problem will also occur in PROV-LINKS ←
15:34:47 <Luc_> q-
Luc Moreau: q- ←
15:35:07 <christine> Luc: fix in both
Luc Moreau: fix in both ←
15:35:11 <Luc_> q+
Luc Moreau: q+ ←
15:35:17 <pgroth> ack TomDN
Paul Groth: ack TomDN ←
15:35:21 <pgroth> ack Luc_
Paul Groth: ack Luc_ ←
15:35:24 <christine> Craig: suggest holding off on voting until the document is in a more final state
Craig Trim: suggest holding off on voting until the document is in a more final state ←
15:35:38 <christine> Craig = Tom
TomDN = Tom ←
15:35:38 <pgroth> s/Craig/TomDN
15:35:47 <pgroth> s/TomDN/Craig
15:35:54 <christine> Luc: agree useful to have time to discuss issues further
Luc Moreau: agree useful to have time to discuss issues further ←
15:36:03 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:36:16 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-Links
Summary: 4 reviews were received, Luc will read and respond in detail later.
<pgroth> Summary: 4 reviews were received, Luc will read and respond in detail later.
15:36:19 <TomDN> Zakim, mute me
Tom De Nies: Zakim, mute me ←
15:36:19 <Zakim> TomDN should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should now be muted ←
15:36:44 <zednik> I have to leave now
Stephan Zednik: I have to leave now ←
15:36:56 <christine> Luc: 4 reviews received - thank you - have not had time to read them in detail - but you seem to be happy with the document - some small changes
Luc Moreau: 4 reviews received - thank you - have not had time to read them in detail - but you seem to be happy with the document - some small changes ←
15:37:00 <smiles> No blocking issues from me
Simon Miles: No blocking issues from me ←
15:37:04 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a] ←
15:37:06 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:37:06 <TomDN> none from me either
Tom De Nies: none from me either ←
15:37:08 <GK> No blockers that I recall
Graham Klyne: No blockers that I recall ←
15:37:12 <khalidBelhajjame> No bloking issues from me either
Khalid Belhajjame: No bloking issues from me either ←
15:37:21 <pgroth> Topic: PROV Implementations
Summary: No change to implementations except for the need to rerun scripts to update the tables. The group agreed that there was no need for a re-review.
<pgroth> Summary: No change to implementations except for the need to rerun scripts to update the tables. The group agreed that there was no need for a re-review.
15:38:20 <christine> Paul: held it open a little longer - nothing to change in the text - just to rerun scripts to update the tables (essentially) - no need to review
Paul Groth: held it open a little longer - nothing to change in the text - just to rerun scripts to update the tables (essentially) - no need to review ←
15:38:22 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:38:28 <Luc_> +1
Luc Moreau: +1 ←
15:38:45 <christine> Paul: one or two people who said they want to register another implementation
Paul Groth: one or two people who said they want to register another implementation ←
15:38:59 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:38:59 <christine> Paul: there is still time
Paul Groth: there is still time ←
15:39:28 <pgroth> Topic: Provenance of Docs
Summary: Luc created a full provenance trace for all the documents. We discussed the issue of identifying authors. There was some consensus to use the working group wiki page's to identify people. Editors can either use this provenance trace or create their own.
<pgroth> Summary: Luc created a full provenance trace for all the documents. We discussed the issue of identifying authors. There was some consensus to use the working group wiki page's to identify people. Editors can either use this provenance trace or create their own.
15:39:35 <Luc_> +q
Luc Moreau: +q ←
15:39:36 <christine> Paul: status?
Paul Groth: status? ←
15:39:48 <Luc_> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/e1fa26593295/provenance/test/prov-family.svg
Luc Moreau: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/e1fa26593295/provenance/test/prov-family.svg ←
15:39:57 <Luc_> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/e1fa26593295/provenance/test/prov-family.ttl
Luc Moreau: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/e1fa26593295/provenance/test/prov-family.ttl ←
15:40:01 <Luc_> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/e1fa26593295/provenance/test/prov-family.provn
Luc Moreau: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/e1fa26593295/provenance/test/prov-family.provn ←
15:40:26 <christine> Luc: tried to recreate the history of all our documents assuming the specs were out
Luc Moreau: tried to recreate the history of all our documents assuming the specs were out ←
15:40:43 <ivan> wow
Ivan Herman: wow ←
15:40:57 <GK> Third link returns "error: provenance/test/prov-family.provn@e1fa26593295: not found in manifest" for me
Graham Klyne: Third link returns "error: provenance/test/prov-family.provn@e1fa26593295: not found in manifest" for me ←
15:41:25 <christine> Luc: covering all versions of the reports we publish - will ask all editors to check when finalised - also should add authorship - do we have URIs for everybody?
Luc Moreau: covering all versions of the reports we publish - will ask all editors to check when finalised - also should add authorship - do we have URIs for everybody? ←
15:41:56 <christine> Paul: Ivan, can we use URLs for the name in the tracker to represent people?
Paul Groth: Ivan, can we use URLs for the name in the tracker to represent people? ←
15:42:11 <Paolo> @Luc: provn version, I get: error: provenance/test/prov-family.provn@e1fa26593295: not found in manifest
Paolo Missier: @Luc: provn version, I get: error: provenance/test/prov-family.provn@e1fa26593295: not found in manifest ←
15:42:26 <GK> How many of us have ORCID IDs?
Graham Klyne: How many of us have ORCID IDs? ←
15:42:31 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/
Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/ ←
15:42:34 <christine> Ivan: hmm, it can be used ... but ... often people put a page about themselves on the wiki ... can you give me an example URL to look at in tracker?
Ivan Herman: hmm, it can be used ... but ... often people put a page about themselves on the wiki ... can you give me an example URL to look at in tracker? ←
15:42:54 <christine> Ivan: not ideal
Ivan Herman: not ideal ←
15:43:08 <TallTed> WebID! :-)
Ted Thibodeau: WebID! :-) ←
15:43:09 <stain> you would have hoped for W3C to provide an ontology or dataset of every member!
Stian Soiland-Reyes: you would have hoped for W3C to provide an ontology or dataset of every member! ←
15:43:13 <christine> Paul: wiki user pages?
Paul Groth: wiki user pages? ←
15:43:19 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/User:Ctrim
Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/User:Ctrim ←
15:43:19 <Luc_> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/User:Lmoreau
Luc Moreau: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/User:Lmoreau ←
15:43:20 <christine> Ivan: not sure those are public
Ivan Herman: not sure those are public ←
15:43:38 <christine> Ivan: what I was suggesting - if they are all complete that is fine
Ivan Herman: what I was suggesting - if they are all complete that is fine ←
15:43:48 <christine> Ivan: they will be frozen
Ivan Herman: they will be frozen ←
15:43:53 <stain> in foaf they might or might not be seen to represent accounts rather than people..
Stian Soiland-Reyes: in foaf they might or might not be seen to represent accounts rather than people.. ←
15:44:09 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:44:14 <pgroth> ack Luc_
Paul Groth: ack Luc_ ←
15:44:14 <christine> Paul: use wiki ones - so if you want your proper info recorded update your wiki page
Paul Groth: use wiki ones - so if you want your proper info recorded update your wiki page ←
15:44:19 <christine> Luc: fine with that
Luc Moreau: fine with that ←
15:44:44 <stain> it might be easiest to identify people like [ a prov:Person, foaf:homepage <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/User:Lmorea> ]
Stian Soiland-Reyes: it might be easiest to identify people like [ a prov:Person, foaf:homepage <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/User:Lmorea> ] ←
15:45:09 <stain> - foaf:homepage is inverse functional, thus identifying (but not being) the person
Stian Soiland-Reyes: - foaf:homepage is inverse functional, thus identifying (but not being) the person ←
15:45:19 <christine> [?] useful to add the link from the RDF files ...
[?] useful to add the link from the RDF files ... ←
15:45:20 <pgroth> q+
Paul Groth: q+ ←
15:45:31 <pgroth> s/SVG/RDF
Paul Groth: s/SVG/RDF (warning: replacement failed) ←
15:45:42 <pgroth> s/SVG/RDF/
Paul Groth: s/SVG/RDF/ (warning: replacement failed) ←
15:45:44 <christine> Paul: can we do content negotation on SVG?
Paul Groth: can we do content negotation on SVG? ←
15:46:02 <christine> Ivan: not exactly - not a serialisation
Ivan Herman: not exactly - not a serialisation ←
15:46:06 <Luc_> q+
Luc Moreau: q+ ←
15:46:12 <pgroth> ack pgroth
Paul Groth: ack pgroth ←
15:46:17 <pgroth> ack Luc_
Paul Groth: ack Luc_ ←
15:46:44 <christine> Luc: when the file is more or less finalised - post a blog explaining provenance - could put the SVG file there
Luc Moreau: when the file is more or less finalised - post a blog explaining provenance - could put the SVG file there ←
15:47:02 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:47:04 <stain> you COULD define a prov-diagram that is a formal language that says how to describe prov-dm as a diagram - and then the SVG could still be a representation of the provenance
Stian Soiland-Reyes: you COULD define a prov-diagram that is a formal language that says how to describe prov-dm as a diagram - and then the SVG could still be a representation of the provenance ←
15:47:09 <TallTed> possibly better pages than wiki -- e.g., https://www.w3.org/users/42501
Ted Thibodeau: possibly better pages than wiki -- e.g., https://www.w3.org/users/42501 ←
15:47:11 <christine> Ivan: could point to as wekk
Ivan Herman: could point to as wekk ←
15:47:24 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:47:30 <stain> TallTed: except they are seeecret :(
Ted Thibodeau: except they are seeecret :( [ Scribe Assist by Stian Soiland-Reyes ] ←
15:47:37 <pgroth> secret
Paul Groth: secret ←
15:47:39 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:47:39 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should no longer be muted ←
15:47:53 <smiles> q+
Simon Miles: q+ ←
15:47:56 <TomDN> I get Sorry, Insufficient Access Privileges
Tom De Nies: I get Sorry, Insufficient Access Privileges ←
15:47:59 <GK> No, browser is asking for login
Graham Klyne: No, browser is asking for login ←
15:48:08 <pgroth> ack smiles
Paul Groth: ack smiles ←
15:48:24 <Luc_> up to editors
Luc Moreau: up to editors ←
15:48:29 <christine> smiles: re provenance for primer - what is the preference?
Simon Miles: re provenance for primer - what is the preference? ←
15:48:40 <christine> Luc: editors can decide to use the same provenance, don't have to
Luc Moreau: editors can decide to use the same provenance, don't have to ←
15:49:06 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:49:12 <pgroth> ack ivan
Paul Groth: ack ivan ←
15:49:16 <christine> Paul: thanks everyone, good work, keep it up
Paul Groth: thanks everyone, good work, keep it up ←
15:49:18 <dgarijo> @smiles: we did already a file for prov-o. You can base yours in that one, if you want
Daniel Garijo: @smiles: we did already a file for prov-o. You can base yours in that one, if you want ←
15:49:55 <christine> Ivan: votes ends on Tuesday - well send an official transition request to publish - expect to get green light by email - try to take care of this next week
Ivan Herman: votes ends on Tuesday - well send an official transition request to publish - expect to get green light by email - try to take care of this next week ←
15:50:14 <dgarijo> bbye
Daniel Garijo: bbye ←
15:50:17 <Zakim> -Satya_Sahoo
Zakim IRC Bot: -Satya_Sahoo ←
15:50:18 <Luc_> bye
Luc Moreau: bye ←
15:50:18 <Zakim> -christine
Zakim IRC Bot: -christine ←
15:50:19 <Zakim> -pgroth
Zakim IRC Bot: -pgroth ←
15:50:19 <GK> Bye
Graham Klyne: Bye ←
15:50:20 <Zakim> - +1.818.731.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.818.731.aabb ←
15:50:21 <Zakim> -ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -ivan ←
15:50:21 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
15:50:23 <Zakim> -Luc_
Zakim IRC Bot: -Luc_ ←
15:50:24 <stain> bye
Stian Soiland-Reyes: bye ←
15:50:24 <Zakim> -dgarijo
Zakim IRC Bot: -dgarijo ←
15:50:26 <Zakim> -smiles
Zakim IRC Bot: -smiles ←
15:50:27 <SamCoppens> Bye!
Sam Coppens: Bye! ←
15:50:28 <Zakim> -TallTed
Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed ←
15:50:29 <Zakim> -TomDN
Zakim IRC Bot: -TomDN ←
15:50:29 <Zakim> -stain
Zakim IRC Bot: -stain ←
15:50:33 <pgroth> rrsagent, set log public
Paul Groth: rrsagent, set log public ←
15:50:34 <Zakim> -jcheney
Zakim IRC Bot: -jcheney ←
15:50:36 <Zakim> -khalidBelhajjame
Zakim IRC Bot: -khalidBelhajjame ←
15:50:36 <pgroth> rrsagent, draft minutes
Paul Groth: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
15:50:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/04-prov-minutes.html pgroth
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15:50:39 <Zakim> -GK
Zakim IRC Bot: -GK ←
15:50:39 <pgroth> rackbot, end telcon
Paul Groth: rackbot, end telcon ←
15:50:40 <Zakim> SW_(PROV)11:00AM has ended
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15:50:40 <Zakim> Attendees were pgroth, [IPcaller], christine, GK, dgarijo, smiles, stain, Luc_, khalidBelhajjame, Satya_Sahoo, +1.818.731.aabb, ivan, TallTed, TomDN, SamCoppens, jcheney
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15:50:43 <pgroth> trackbot, end telcon
Paul Groth: trackbot, end telcon ←
15:50:43 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
15:50:43 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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15:50:51 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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15:50:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/04-prov-minutes.html trackbot
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15:50:52 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
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15:50:52 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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