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WAI AU

14 Feb 2011

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Jeanne, Jan, Alexandro, Cherie, Alex, Sueann, Jutta, Greg, Tim_Boland
Regrets
Andrew_R., Greg_P., Alastair_C.
Chair
Jutta Treviranus
Scribe
jeanne

Contents


<Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0044.html

Schedule Discussion

<Jan> Not meeting Feb 21 due to absence of multiple US, CDN members...

<Jan> So a pre-CSUN TR draft will not be happening

2. Feb 14 Survey

<scribe> scribe: jeanne

Closing out comments

AUWG Survey for 14 February

<Jan> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110211/results

Jutta: Discuss with your company commenters to make sure that there is agreement with how we have handled the comments. Also any other issues from within the group need to be handled, so that we do not rehash issues that we have already worked through - especially with people internal to the group.
... so any comments that come forward at this stage should be significant and not issues we have already addressed.

Tim: Is there a process to get feelers to see if there are any other issues?

Jutta: This next draft is a way to ask people to see if there are any issues left before we go into Last Call.

Survey

Proposal to remove B.2.1.1

<Jan> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110211/results#xq2

<Jan> JT: We will revisit

Proposal on document convention: WCAG

<Jan> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110211/results#xq1

<Jan> Resolution: All accept

New note under "Specialized Tools":

<Jan> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110211/results#xq3

<Jan> Note on Accessibility Checker: While accessibility checking functionality is an important part of an ATAG 2.0 conforming authoring tool, a stand-alone accessibility checker with no automated or semi-automated repair functionality is not considered an authoring tool because it is not used to edit web content for use by other people.

Jutta: While we are not going to be considering an accessibility checker with no repair or edit functions, when a checker is including in the authoring tool or when it is bundled with an authoring tool, it will be included

<Jan> JR: Agree to GP's request for a note that checkers can be considered part of tool

Jutta: Creating, modifying content is what we want.

Alex: We are excluding specific categories, like Simple Text Editor, and Checkers that don't have repair, but we aren't giving the criteria for something being included/excluded which isn't sound.
... We need to have specific if/then statements in the criteria

Jan: We have it in most success criteria.

Alex: Any given product can go through ATAG and go through the if/then statements in a yes/no. So a specialized tool like a checker will only say yes to the ones that apply. Then conformance doesn't have to deal with collections.

Jan: A lot of tools don't haave built-in checkers, so we wanted to encourage bundling with a checker

Jutta: We need to make it clear that if the Success Criteria doesn't apply, then we don't have to restrict our definition of authoring tool.

<Jan> ACTION: JR to To write a note about what "not applicable" means and how to use it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/14-au-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-322 - Write a note about what "not applicable" means and how to use it [on Jan Richards - due 2011-02-21].

Jan: If it applies or not, then evaluate whether you met it. The conformance section section then says that you meet all the success criteria that apply to your tool.

Definition of author

Move "Live Authoring Tools" note

<Jan> Resolution: all accept

Definition of authors

<Jan> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110211/results#xq5

<Jan> ACTION: JR to Provide more explanation around why unaware people to be excluded as authors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/14-au-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-323 - Provide more explanation around why unaware people to be excluded as authors [on Jan Richards - due 2011-02-21].

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Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: JR to Provide more explanation around why unaware people to be excluded as authors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/14-au-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: JR to To write a note about what "not applicable" means and how to use it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/14-au-minutes.html#action01]
 
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