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<Adesina> Hello All!
Hi Adesina
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Aug/0014.html
http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Mw4d_tools
StephR: updated the wiki
transcribed everythign i had so far
asked for comments
received 5-6 answers
tried to capture all the discussions
created a large table with a series of criteria
with sub-criteria
Will update after the discussion today and send it to the list
<raphael> I have
<raphael> quickly
raphael: went go through quickly
will add directly in the wiki
StephR: criteria different for user and deployment
different categorie
might be good to separate in two different pieces
different type of information
might be good to differentiate
<raphael> I agree. We may need more categories
steph: +1 to separate end-user and those who will deploy
raphael: good to capture the difference between plug&play and those who needs integration
good to structure
StephR: right. interesting to see how oteh rpeople are structuring tools
my next step
steph: capturing use cases is important too
... also applying the method to a set of tools
<betty> Spoken Web from IBM India?
<Shwet.> yes, spoken web work is done in india
betty: example spoken web ?
<Shwet.> at least part of it
going to be analyzed
<Adesina> Is there is report on the spoken web work in India?
Shwet.: research project for now
not a tool
<betty> @Adesina: I can e-mail list of papers about spoken Web.
<Adesina> Kindly do Betty. Thanks
Adesina, links to spoken web are on the wiki
Shwet.: things are ambiguous
certain tools are not gears to mobile
but might be useful
things like task manager or alike
<raphael> a should be smthg one can use on a mobile
<raphael> no?
StephR: anything that can someone use from a mobile
is ok
+1
<raphael> +1
<Shwet.> good to know
<raphael> j2me apps and mobile web apps are tools, I guess
steph: licensed ones too ?
<raphael> pc-based tools to interact with phones via SMS are toosl too
Shwet.: as far as they can be used to provide social value, they are ok
<StephR> +1
http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Mw4d_tools
http://rishida.net/blog/?p=445
raphael:
could be documented on the wiki
motivation behind the discussion
lots of exchange
might be good to capture that on one of our wiki page
<StephR> +1
Shwet.: would be good to capture which phones/os supports which type of fonts
but thousand of phones
<Shwet.> agree
steph: understanding what information is important is essetial
gathering lmarket info is harder, particularly as things are getting outdated very quickly
StephR: doing lots of research on mobile and browser, but don't know yet this info
this is very sensitive with the local context
phones released in different regions have different features
but might be interesting to have more info
<Shwet.> I could work a little on this .... as having this kind of info, even a small bit, could be usefull
<scribe> ACTION: steph to create a wiki page about I81N isue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/23-mw4d-minutes.html#action01]
<Shwet.> great
Shwet.: i've interest in banking and will look at that
raphael: working on pineapple in beni
n
i would be happy to help in Agriculture
steph: will create a page on agriculture soon
<scribe> ACTION: steph to create a wiki page on agriculture, and a page mbanking [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/23-mw4d-minutes.html#action02]
<Shwet.> cool, got it
<betty> My research uses social anthropological & statistical approach to analysis the 2-way impact between mobile Web & society.
steph: more domain better, but need more resource
betty: about impact, this is my research
happy to work on that
http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Mw4d_impact
<StephR> I can work on Education and have quite a bit of historical data on the subject but less information about initiatives in the past 1-2 years.
<scribe> ACTION: steph to create a page about education [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/23-mw4d-minutes.html#action03]
steph: good to do a new workshop ?
raphel: great opportunity
but not enough participation from people form target communities
but we might to put more energy ot bring people online
mobilizing people is critical
trying to mobilize people to interact online
more efficient than one time event
steph: target groups ?
raphael: apps developer
they would bring input
more people could participate in the wiki and on the mailing-list
we need more people
particuarly working in Africa
field experience is critical
Shwet.: more participation from dev countries
would be good to outreach to other people like china or indonesia
identifying people and outreaching to them
<betty> I agree with the face-to-face workshop, because it's strengthen bond among people working in MW4D. But travelling can be costly to gather people from various places, so is it possible to arrange representation? Eg someone represents MW4D projects in Sub Saharan countries, South East Asia, etc.
steph: +1
<raphael> +1
september 6
steph: ok ?
<raphael> OK
<betty> Sep 6 is OK with me.