<Andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/sites-older-users/Overview.html
Andrew: Thoughts on the page contents
Kate: Looks good and easier to read
Darren: agrees with Kate
Andrew: Any perceivable,
operable, understandable, robust requirements missing?
... change of order?
Darren: Operable - move Navigation and Location up after Links
Andrew: Any suggestions for the
Applying WCAG 2.0 section?
... Is Text style and presentation appropriate heading?
Kate: "Style" is OK
Darren: agrees
Andrew: Any references about underlining and emboldening text would be useful.
Kate: Possibly occurs in the literature review.
<scribe> ACTION: Refer text style to WCAG group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-waiage-minutes.html#action01]
Andrew: Should "Many older people experience changing color perception" be Many or All?
Kate: suggests using most
Andrew: Color and Contrast
Darren: Example G14 and G122 are almost the same
Andrew: Multimedia section. WCAG requirements originally grouped types but then returned to numerical ordering. Any comments?
Darren: Numerical ordering better. Also goes in A / AA/ AAA order this way
Andrew: Speech synthesis section. Seen iPad users using Voice Over. Good way of getting non-text content and semantic markup in.
Kate: Providing should be written as provide as it becomes more of a command.
Andrew: Operable. Links rolled two elements together - link purpose and link style
Kate: Would separate this
section.
... Sections could be Link text and Link Style
Darren: agrees with Kate
Andrew: Navigation and Location. Primarily about navigation. Should it be split?
Kate: Fine as it is
Darren: Agrees
Andrew: Mouse Use. Rolled
together vision and dexterity aspects.
... Keyboard use and tabbing.
... Distractions. This is vaguer
Kate: "Creating content that blinks for less than 5 seconds" sounds like we recommend creating content that blinks
Andrew: Timing and Timeouts section. Doesn't like the word issues
Darren: Agrees.
Kate: Never seen a way for the user to turn the time limit off
Andrew: HSBC warns people when a timeout is to occur allowing users to extend the session.
<Andrew> ACTION: timing and timeout - "due to vision or cognition issues" > "due to declining vision or cognition" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-waiage-minutes.html#action02]
<Andrew> ACTION: look for a technique related to time-up warning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-waiage-minutes.html#action03]
Andrew: Understandable section.
Readable and understandable text. Note taken example techniques
for all of them.
... Consistency. Related to Navigation but a different
aspect.
... Pop-ups and new-windows? Should also include new
tabs
<Andrew> ACTION: Pop-ups and new-windows - add mention of 'new tabs' [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-waiage-minutes.html#action04]
Andrew: Refresh and page updates.
Could be addressed with ARIA
... Forms and Transactions. Have split the section into
subtopics
Kate: Some requirements are more editorial.
Andrew: These have been put under
error prevention for the moment.
... Error prevention could be split into help and
instructions
<Andrew> ACTION: Forms - maybe split Error prevention into 'help and instructions' and 'error prevention' [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-waiage-minutes.html#action05]
Kate: Keep them all in the forms and transactions box
Andrew: Order would be Help and
Assistance, input assistance, error prevention, error
recovery
... Use Older equipment/software in the Robust section but
mainly focuses on Older Software.
Andrew: Purpose is to write some articles so media outlets could pick up on our work and reprint it in a succinct manner.
http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/age-articles/articles-plan.html
<Andrew> draft manager oriented article
Kate: Split into sections with subheadings
<Kate> Subheadings - statistics/demographics; types of user; organisational benefits?
Darren: Legal and General pull-quote is good. Makes the work more concrete with real tangible benefits.
Kate: Older people pull-quote
could be improved. Most people know population is ageing
... Re jig "But it's not..."
<Andrew> kate - keep the disability bits together and the externality bit together
Kate: Likes the introduction.
Andrew: Titles for this article?
Darren: Web Accessibility Pays Dividends for Your Business
Andrew:Draft user-oriented article
Kate: Would go straight into the adaptive strategies as it's more useful for the audience.
Andrew: Draft developer-oriented article
Kate: Covers the right things in
the right order but would add some subheadings.
...
older people and
their disabilities; wcag; involving older people