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<trackbot> Date: 29 June 2010
<scribe> Scribe: Mark
Minutes are approved without modification#
Agenda approved
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/146 - Eric
scribe: will follow up with Oracle
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/177 - Peter - no status
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/179 - Eric - spec now points at latest draft
close action-179
<trackbot> ACTION-179 Update URI editors spec to reflect latest URI scheme URL closed
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/180 - Eric - new issue (40) raised
close action-180
<trackbot> ACTION-180 Raise issue for use of "m:MaxTime" XML in SOAP 1.2 example from section 2.8 closed
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/181 - Eric - pending namespace discussion
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/182 - Mark - proposal submitted
close action-182
<trackbot> ACTION-182 Check how much of the binding spec. needs to change and make a proposal closed
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/183 - Eric - still pending
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jun/0028.html
Eric: We do not have a stable namespace URL
Yves: We might want to keep the namespace from the working draft if there have been no significant changes, but if there are changes from the WD then suggest we use the "ns" version of the namespace - see http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-nsuri
Eric: Two places where the
namespace is used - to define the protocol, and to namespace
the WSDL elements
... Should these be kept the same?
Can't see a reason why we shouldn't keep these the same
Eric: The date has the advantage of showing when the spec was finalised
<Yves> can be http://www.w3.org/YYYY/ssss if you want to keep the date aspect
Eric: So we would establish a new namespace of http://www.w3.org/2010/soapjms
Yves: Implementations, tests, and
test reports would need to reflect this
... Could publish a new CR to signal to implementors that the
namespace has changed
... (going back to CR is ok unless changes are significant
enough to go back to Last Call)
... CR process lasts for 6 weeks
Amy: So this shouldn't push out the target PR date
Eric: If we do an additional CR then we could fix the broken link to point to the new value?
Yves: Yes
RESOLUTION: No objections to moving through CR again
<scribe> ACTION: mark to change the namespace to http://www.w3.org/2010/soapjms [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-soap-jms-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-185 - Change the namespace to http://www.w3.org/2010/soapjms [on Mark Phillips - due 2010-07-06].
<scribe> ACTION: Eric to review the spec. looking for other items that will need to change - e.g. editorial notes / nits [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-soap-jms-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-186 - Review the spec. looking for other items that will need to change - e.g. editorial notes / nits [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-07-06].
<scribe> ACTION: Derek to review the spec. looking for other items that will need to change - e.g. editorial notes / nits [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-soap-jms-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-187 - Review the spec. looking for other items that will need to change - e.g. editorial notes / nits [on Derek Rokicki - due 2010-07-06].
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/40
Eric: Essentially a bug in the fault example - no namespace declared for the 'm:' prefix
No objections to opening issue 40
RESOLUTION: Open issue 40
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/27 - leaving open until the URI scheme is finalised
Eric: Also need to change the date in the spec. - will re-open this action item
<eric> ISSUE-39: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jun/0027.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-39 Please don't rely on JMSMessageID for Protocol 2038 notes added
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/39 - Mark
Mark: Spec needs to change in 3 places per email linked above
No objections to accepting proposal
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/40
Eric: Suggest we remove the detail element
<eric> http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html#SOAP12FaultPayload
No objections to accepting proposed resolution to issue 40
<scribe> ACTION: mark to apply the resolution to issue 39 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-soap-jms-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-188 - Apply the resolution to issue 39 [on Mark Phillips - due 2010-07-06].
<scribe> ACTION: Eric to apply resolution for issue 40 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-soap-jms-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-189 - Apply resolution for issue 40 [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-07-06].
<scribe> ACTION: Eric to review the test cases once the changes for issue 39 have been applied [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-soap-jms-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-190 - Review the test cases once the changes for issue 39 have been applied [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-07-06].
Nothing to review
We will go through another CR, this should not affect overall schedule
No update on conforming implementations
Eric: No news from IETF
... But Glen Daniels has offered to be an independent
reviewer
... SO his name has been sent to IETF
None
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