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<trackbot> Date: 03 March 2010
<scribe> scribenick: raphael
<scribe> scribe: Raphael
PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 24 February 2009 telecon, http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html
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<mhausenblas> +1
<davy> +1
+1
Minutes accepted
ACTIOn-145?
<trackbot> ACTION-145 -- Raphaël Troncy to adjust the milestones in the charter -- due 2010-03-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/145
close ACTION-145
<trackbot> ACTION-145 Adjust the milestones in the charter closed
see the new table schedule on the group home page, http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/
ACTION-119?
<trackbot> ACTION-119 -- Yves Lafon to request admins to set up a cvs notifications mailing list and notifications -- due 2009-10-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119
<scribe> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/FithF2FAgenda
I'm requesting you put more items of things you would like to have been discussed
ACTION-134?
<trackbot> ACTION-134 -- Erik Mannens to mark up the spec with normative and informative classes -- due 2010-02-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/134
Propose to close it, since we marked up already what is stable and not
Some support from Yves
no objections
<conrad> +1
<davy> +1
<mhausenblas> +1
close ACTION-134
<trackbot> ACTION-134 Mark up the spec with normative and informative classes closed
ACTION-142?
<trackbot> ACTION-142 -- Raphaël Troncy to apply this change in the section 5.1.3 (jack's note) -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/142
close ACTION-142
<trackbot> ACTION-142 Apply this change in the section 5.1.3 (jack's note) closed
ACTION-126?
<trackbot> ACTION-126 -- Yves Lafon to follow up on error in ABFN for npt -- due 2009-12-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/126
Yves: it is done, both the wiki page and the document has been changed
In the document, at the end, there is a consolidated annex with what we have imported
<Yves> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/
<Yves> 4.2.1.3 Wall-clock time code
<Yves> Editorial note: Philip
<Yves> The datetime definition should be imported from either global date and time (HTML 5) or utc-time (RFC 2326).
<Yves> Editorial note: Yves
<Yves> In fact it should be a subset of ISO 8601, RFC 3339 would do. (Need WG decision)
Issue: which def should we take?
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-15 - Which def should we take? ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/15/edit .
<Yves> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3339.txt
drop ISSUE-15
Yves: I would prefer to use the
3339 rather than the def used in HTML5 and the RTSP
protocol
... HTML5 have chosen the ISO def rather than the RFC
definition
... I think they are the same, but we should be consistent in
our ref
Raphael: do you want a WG decision now ? We are not that many on the call
Yves: this is not rocket science, but should be pretty straightforward
Raphael: I would propose a 5 min
discussion at the F2F meeting
... in order to take a WG decision (re: section 4.2.1.3)
Bug at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0023.html is corrected
Bug at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jan/0093.html is corrected
The 's' has been dropped
close ACTION-126
<trackbot> ACTION-126 Follow up on error in ABFN for npt closed
Yves: the 's' was already optional but has been dropped
<Yves> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#collected-syntax
Yves: the Annex B collects all the bits of the syntax
ACTION-150?
<trackbot> ACTION-150 -- Erik Mannens to summarize the discussion on the quotes in a mail or on the wiki -- due 2010-03-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/150
Raphael: whether we should have quotes or not for track and id will be a topic at the F2F meeting
Yves: using quotes seem more secure ... but it is matter of discussion
<Yves> we need jack for this one
ACTION-123?
<trackbot> ACTION-123 -- Yves Lafon to come up with ABNF for header syntax -- due 2009-12-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/123
<scribe> -- pending
Yves: we need some further
discussion
... in particular how we express the non-temporal
dimension
... my plan is to actually _do_ that during the F2F meeting
Raphael: this is another topic for the f2f
ACTION-141?
<trackbot> ACTION-141 -- Conrad Parker to add a paragraph in the section 5.2.1 that further clarify the role of the UA for rendering a media fragment -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/141
Conrad: I will do that by f2f
ACTION-135?
<trackbot> ACTION-135 -- Erik Mannens to extend section 5 regarding spatial and track dimension -- due 2010-02-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/135
Davy: I have looked at it a little bit
Davy: look for examples
... examples of bow text fragments can be rendered,
highlighted
<davy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsaq6W3V1s
Davy: I look also at the
annotation tool of YouTube
... we also look at Flash development
... on the F2F I will make an implementation report
... perhaps with a demo
... but mainly the problems we have
ACTION-118?
<trackbot> ACTION-118 -- Michael Hausenblas to come up with individual 'normal' test cases (+/- 20) -- due 2010-03-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/118
close ACTIONB-118
close ACTION-118
<trackbot> ACTION-118 Come up with individual 'normal' test cases (+/- 20) closed
ACTION-147?
<trackbot> ACTION-147 -- Michael Hausenblas to add all MF WG members to corrib -- due 2010-03-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/147
scribe: will be done by F2F
Michael: goal of the F2F is to review the TC that are in corrib
Other actions
ACTION-71?
<trackbot> ACTION-71 -- Michael Hausenblas to investigate whether he could have an implementation in Javascript that does the client-side media fragments parsing -- due 2009-10-14 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/71
Davy: we mostly look at how to
generate HTTP headers with js
... not really on parsing media fragments
... Silvia was looking at this
Raphael: I will ask Silvia if she wants to take this action or not at f2f
Raphael: is there any other business to discuss?
Next gathering is in Ghent
Michael: will be around most of the time remotely
Silvia: any slots you will 'more' here than others?
<silvia> the morning sessions, as usual
same for conrad
Raphael: we will focus deep discussion during our morning sessions
<silvia> thanks, much appreciated
Raphael: please, all, finish all your actions BEFORE the f2f
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