RDFa Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 20 May 2010

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010May/0088.html
Present
Ivan Herman, Manu Sporny, Mark Birbeck, Benjamin Adrian, Steven Pemberton, Knud Möller, Toby Inkster
Regrets
Ben Adida, Shane McCarron
Chair
Manu Sporny
Scribe
Benjamin Adrian
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. RDFa Core specification should specify what constitutes whitespaces within attribute values. link
  2. RDFa attributes containing all invalid values should be interpreted as those attributes with an empty attribute value. link
Topics
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13:47:31 <trackbot> Meeting: RDFa Working Group Teleconference
13:47:31 <trackbot> Date: 20 May 2010
13:47:41 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010May/0088.html
13:47:44 <manu> Chair: Manu
13:47:53 <manu> Present: Ivan, Manu, MarkB, BenjaminA, Steven, Knud, Toby
13:48:15 <manu> Regrets: BenA, ShaneM
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14:00:27 <manu> zakim, I am IPcaller

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14:00:54 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

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14:01:28 <manu> zakim, ?aaaa is Knud

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14:01:28 <Zakim> sorry, manu, I do not recognize a party named '?aaaa'

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14:01:42 <manu> zakim, aaaa is Knud

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14:01:52 <Zakim> +tinkster

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14:01:52 <manu> zakim, aabb is BenjaminA

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14:04:04 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?

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14:04:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see Knud (muted), [MIT528] (muted), [IPcaller], Ivan, BenjaminA, tinkster

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14:04:38 <tinkster> zakim, who's on the phone?

Toby Inkster: zakim, who's on the phone?

14:04:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see Knud (muted), [MIT528] (muted), [IPcaller], Ivan, BenjaminA, tinkster

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14:04:50 <tinkster> zakim, mute me

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14:06:01 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?

Mark Birbeck: zakim, code?

14:06:01 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck

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14:06:32 <Zakim> + +0208761aacc

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14:06:32 <Benjamin> scribenick: Benjamin

(Scribe set to Benjamin Adrian)

14:06:41 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ?aacc

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14:06:41 <Zakim> sorry, markbirbeck, I do not see a party named '?aacc'

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14:06:53 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010May/0088.html

Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010May/0088.html

14:06:59 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am aacc

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14:08:11 <Benjamin> ivan: let's discuss ISSUE-6 with Shane

Ivan Herman: let's discuss ISSUE-6 with Shane

14:10:20 <Benjamin> Topic: RDFa DOM API Status Update

1. RDFa DOM API Status Update

14:10:27 <Benjamin> manu: Mark and Manu discussed issues on integrating both RDFa DOM API proposals

Manu Sporny: Mark and Manu discussed issues on integrating both RDFa DOM API proposals

14:10:49 <Benjamin> ... Benjamin is ok with the changes.

... Benjamin is ok with the changes.

14:11:13 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-dom-api/

Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-dom-api/

14:11:25 <Benjamin> markbirbeck: Excellent work manu!

Mark Birbeck: Excellent work manu!

14:11:42 <Benjamin> manu: changes are highlighted on the mailing list

Manu Sporny: changes are highlighted on the mailing list

14:12:32 <Benjamin> ... what we had was a low level API covering RDF types and some basic methods for retrieving triples

... what we had was a low level API covering RDF types and some basic methods for retrieving triples

14:13:27 <Benjamin> ... Mark had many ideas to improve that and proposed to use this API even for other language formats (microformats, vcard, ...) than RDFa.

... Mark had many ideas to improve that and proposed to use this API even for other language formats (microformats, vcard, ...) than RDFa.

14:14:19 <Benjamin> ... added concepts of parser and store into the API and wrote about how to initialize the API

... added concepts of parser and store into the API and wrote about how to initialize the API

14:15:05 <Benjamin> ... We agreed on a much more gentle introduction of the document

... We agreed on a much more gentle introduction of the document

14:15:38 <Benjamin> ... Is this the right direction?

... Is this the right direction?

14:16:29 <Benjamin> ivan: wrote my oppinion in the mailing list.

Ivan Herman: wrote my oppinion in the mailing list.

14:17:02 <Benjamin> ...  Finally, we should split parts of the document into several documents

... Finally, we should split parts of the document into several documents

14:17:47 <Benjamin> ... It's hard to understand the document because of the different levels that are mentioned.

... It's hard to understand the document because of the different levels that are mentioned.

14:18:31 <Benjamin> ... Ordinary users may be confused by too technical parts (e.g., store, parsers)

... Ordinary users may be confused by too technical parts (e.g., store, parsers)

14:19:50 <Benjamin> ... in an Appendix a clean IDL specification of the API should exist

... in an Appendix a clean IDL specification of the API should exist

14:20:58 <Benjamin> ... The examples  do not specify enough what is happening underneath

... The examples do not specify enough what is happening underneath

14:22:35 <Benjamin> manu: We plan to have implementation details in section 3 and 4.

Manu Sporny: We plan to have implementation details in section 3 and 4.

14:22:45 <manu> zakim, q?

Manu Sporny: zakim, q?

14:22:45 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue

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14:22:58 <markbirbeck> q+

Mark Birbeck: q+

14:23:17 <Benjamin> ivan: The document should be edited more as manual or reference guide.

Ivan Herman: The document should be edited more as manual or reference guide.

14:24:06 <Benjamin> q+

q+

14:24:11 <manu> ack markbirbeck

Manu Sporny: ack markbirbeck

14:25:36 <Benjamin> markbirbeck: We can move several specifications and examples to be more self explanatory.

Mark Birbeck: We can move several specifications and examples to be more self explanatory.

14:26:19 <manu> ack benjamin

Manu Sporny: ack benjamin

14:26:51 <manu> q+

Manu Sporny: q+

14:26:59 <manu> Benjamin: I'm wondering about who the audience is for this?

Benjamin Adrian: I'm wondering about who the audience is for this? [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ]

14:27:21 <manu> Benjamin: Maybe we want to have different sections for different readers.

Benjamin Adrian: Maybe we want to have different sections for different readers. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ]

14:28:27 <Benjamin> ivan: man target group are developers but for a while users won't have any other document source than this specification

Ivan Herman: man target group are developers but for a while users won't have any other document source than this specification

14:28:57 <markbirbeck> s/man target/main target/

Mark Birbeck: s/man target/main target/

14:29:40 <Benjamin> manu: The HTML WG also discuss on existing difficult specifications. Anyway specifications should read like an O'Reilly book.

Manu Sporny: The HTML WG also discuss on existing difficult specifications. Anyway specifications should read like an O'Reilly book.

14:29:47 <tinkster> q+

Toby Inkster: q+

14:29:49 <markbirbeck> q+ To comment on end-users needing to be able to use specs.

Mark Birbeck: q+ To comment on end-users needing to be able to use specs.

14:30:01 <Benjamin> ... we have two target groups, developers and users

... we have two target groups, developers and users

14:30:02 <manu> ack IPcaller

Manu Sporny: ack IPcaller

14:30:02 <tinkster> zakim, unmute me

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14:30:12 <manu> ack [IPcaller]

Manu Sporny: ack [IPcaller]

14:30:44 <Benjamin> tinkster: We should publish an extra document with examples that reads like a Primer

Toby Inkster: We should publish an extra document with examples that reads like a Primer

14:30:51 <manu> ack mark

Manu Sporny: ack mark

14:30:51 <Zakim> markbirbeck, you wanted to comment on end-users needing to be able to use specs.

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14:30:55 <tinkster> zakim, mute me

Toby Inkster: zakim, mute me

14:30:55 <Zakim> tinkster should now be muted

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14:31:01 <manu> ack tinkster

Manu Sporny: ack tinkster

14:31:13 <tinkster> zakim, mute me

Toby Inkster: zakim, mute me

14:31:13 <Zakim> tinkster should now be muted

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14:32:21 <Benjamin> markbirbeck: A Primer will set off pressure of this document. But a single document will preserve what is really meant to happen in the specification instead of having multiple documents like they exist for RDF(S).

Mark Birbeck: A Primer will set off pressure of this document. But a single document will preserve what is really meant to happen in the specification instead of having multiple documents like they exist for RDF(S).

14:32:51 <Benjamin> q+

q+

14:33:44 <manu> ack Benjamin

Manu Sporny: ack Benjamin

14:34:06 <manu> Benjamin: Having read the document, I don't think we need to strip the document into separate documents.

Benjamin Adrian: Having read the document, I don't think we need to strip the document into separate documents. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ]

14:34:42 <manu> Benjamin: We may want several sections Beginner Users vs. Advanced Developers vs. Implementers

Benjamin Adrian: We may want several sections Beginner Users vs. Advanced Developers vs. Implementers [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ]

14:34:48 <markbirbeck> q+

Mark Birbeck: q+

14:35:02 <manu> Benjamin: I think it's okay to repeat ourselves throughout the document.

Benjamin Adrian: I think it's okay to repeat ourselves throughout the document. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ]

14:36:08 <markbirbeck> :)

Mark Birbeck: :)

14:36:10 <manu> ack mark

Manu Sporny: ack mark

14:36:46 <manu> Mark: I don't think that we'll repeat ourselves as much as you think we will.

Mark Birbeck: I don't think that we'll repeat ourselves as much as you think we will. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ]

14:36:51 <Benjamin> manu: Can we publish a FPWD of this API in two weeks?

Manu Sporny: Can we publish a FPWD of this API in two weeks?

14:37:57 <markbirbeck> Mark: Agree with Benjamin that we shouldn't be scared of repeating ourselves in each section (with later sections being more detailed than previous ones). However, since we have some interfaces that are aimed at web developers only, and some interfaces that are aimed at more experienced programmers, then early sections will have different content to later ones.

Mark Birbeck: Agree with Benjamin that we shouldn't be scared of repeating ourselves in each section (with later sections being more detailed than previous ones). However, since we have some interfaces that are aimed at web developers only, and some interfaces that are aimed at more experienced programmers, then early sections will have different content to later ones. [ Scribe Assist by Mark Birbeck ]

14:38:06 <Benjamin> ivan: If we integrate the issues we are discussing here into this document, we can do a FPWD.

Ivan Herman: If we integrate the issues we are discussing here into this document, we can do a FPWD.

14:38:10 <tinkster> zakim, unmu8te me

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14:38:10 <Zakim> I don't understand 'unmu8te me', tinkster

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14:39:13 <Benjamin> tinkster: The API has a different shape than the current document.

Toby Inkster: The API has a different shape than the current document.

14:39:18 <tinkster> zakim, mute me

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14:40:18 <manu> Topic: ISSUE-8: Parsing CURIE lists (on Shane)

2. ISSUE-8: Parsing CURIE lists (on Shane)

14:40:26 <manu>    http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/8

Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/8

14:41:11 <Benjamin> manu: We never specified handling whitespaces in RDFa specs.

Manu Sporny: We never specified handling whitespaces in RDFa specs.

14:41:59 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:42:02 <manu> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

14:42:36 <Benjamin> ... e.g. newlines tabs etc. are specified in XML.

... e.g. newlines tabs etc. are specified in XML.

14:43:13 <tinkster> Could we recommend that authors always use a single space character?

Toby Inkster: Could we recommend that authors always use a single space character?

14:43:16 <Benjamin> ivan: the host language (HTML, or XML dialect) has to specify handling whitespaces.

Ivan Herman: the host language (HTML, or XML dialect) has to specify handling whitespaces.

14:43:20 <tinkster> (as a SHOULD)

Toby Inkster: (as a SHOULD)

14:44:55 <tinkster> HTML5 it seems defers the definition of whitespace to Unicode.

Toby Inkster: HTML5 it seems defers the definition of whitespace to Unicode.

14:46:06 <Benjamin> manu: we may propose that RDFa refers to the host language for handling whitespaces.

Manu Sporny: we may propose that RDFa refers to the host language for handling whitespaces.

14:46:42 <manu> PROPOSAL: RDFa defaults to the Host Language for what constitutes whitespace.

PROPOSED: RDFa defaults to the Host Language for what constitutes whitespace.

14:46:58 <manu> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:47:00 <Benjamin> +1

+1

14:47:17 <manu> PROPOSAL: RDFa defers to the Host Language for what constitutes whitespace.

PROPOSED: RDFa defers to the Host Language for what constitutes whitespace.

14:47:21 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:47:23 <markbirbeck> +1

Mark Birbeck: +1

14:47:24 <manu> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:47:28 <tinkster> XML just has 0x20, 0x0D, 0x0A and 0x09

Toby Inkster: XML just has 0x20, 0x0D, 0x0A and 0x09

14:47:29 <Benjamin> +1

+1

14:47:30 <Knud> +1

Knud Möller: +1

14:47:32 <tinkster> +0.5

Toby Inkster: +0.5

14:47:59 <tinkster> (i.e. XML is space, tab, carriage return and newline)

Toby Inkster: (i.e. XML is space, tab, carriage return and newline)

14:48:21 <Benjamin> ivan: Did we leave whitespace handling unclear in the spec?

Ivan Herman: Did we leave whitespace handling unclear in the spec?

14:48:52 <tinkster> zakim, unmute me

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14:49:07 <Benjamin> ivan: We used a whitespace separated list in CURIE specification. That should be clear enough.

Ivan Herman: We used a whitespace separated list in CURIE specification. That should be clear enough.

14:50:06 <Benjamin> tinkster: Most languages leave whitespace handling and occurances open e.g. in XML and HTML5

Toby Inkster: Most languages leave whitespace handling and occurances open e.g. in XML and HTML5

14:50:08 <Steven> zakim, who is on the phone?

Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is on the phone?

14:50:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Knud (muted), [MIT528] (muted), [IPcaller], Ivan, BenjaminA, tinkster, markbirbeck

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Knud (muted), [MIT528] (muted), [IPcaller], Ivan, BenjaminA, tinkster, markbirbeck

14:50:16 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617

Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617

14:50:16 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

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14:50:18 <Zakim> +Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven

14:50:40 <Steven> Apologies, I got my times mixed up.... :-(

Steven Pemberton: Apologies, I got my times mixed up.... :-(

14:51:20 <Benjamin> tinkster: we are talking about whitespaces within attributes.

Toby Inkster: we are talking about whitespaces within attributes.

14:51:50 <Benjamin> ... the host language specs does not talk much about that

... the host language specs does not talk much about that

14:52:04 <Steven> rrsagent, here?

Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, here?

14:52:04 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2010/05/20-rdfa-irc#T14-52-04

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14:52:37 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

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14:52:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/20-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

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14:53:37 <manu> PROPOSAL: RDFa Core specification should specify what constitutes whitespace.

PROPOSED: RDFa Core specification should specify what constitutes whitespace.

14:53:42 <tinkster> +1

Toby Inkster: +1

14:53:48 <manu> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:53:49 <ivan> And the definition in XML spec are S	   ::=   	(#x20 | #x9 | #xD | #xA)+

Ivan Herman: And the definition in XML spec are S ::= (#x20 | #x9 | #xD | #xA)+

14:53:54 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:53:54 <Steven> s/whitespaces in/whitespaces within/

Steven Pemberton: s/whitespaces in/whitespaces within/

14:53:56 <markbirbeck> s/whitespaces in/whitespaces within/

Mark Birbeck: s/whitespaces in/whitespaces within/

14:53:58 <Benjamin> +1

+1

14:53:59 <Knud> +1

Knud Möller: +1

14:53:59 <markbirbeck> :)

Mark Birbeck: :)

14:54:02 <markbirbeck> +1

Mark Birbeck: +1

14:54:03 <Steven> :-)

Steven Pemberton: :-)

14:54:40 <manu> PROPOSAL: RDFa Core specification should specify what constitutes whitespaces within attribute values.

PROPOSED: RDFa Core specification should specify what constitutes whitespaces within attribute values.

14:57:45 <Benjamin> manu: Anybody disagree with the latest proposal text?

Manu Sporny: Anybody disagree with the latest proposal text?

14:55:01 <manu> RESOLVED: RDFa Core specification should specify what constitutes whitespaces within attribute values.

RESOLVED: RDFa Core specification should specify what constitutes whitespaces within attribute values.

14:55:02 <markbirbeck> :)

Mark Birbeck: :)

14:55:29 <manu> Topic: ISSUE-6: Invalid values in @datatype (on Ivan)

3. ISSUE-6: Invalid values in @datatype (on Ivan)

14:55:36 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/6

Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/6

14:57:41 <Steven> i/2) ISSUE-8: Parsing CURIE list/Topic: ISSUE-8: Parsing CURIE lists

Steven Pemberton: i/2) ISSUE-8: Parsing CURIE list/Topic: ISSUE-8: Parsing CURIE lists

14:57:44 <Benjamin> ivan: attributes with invalid values should behave like attributes with empty content

Ivan Herman: attributes with invalid values should behave like attributes with empty content

14:57:47 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make minutes

14:57:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/20-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

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14:57:54 <ivan> @attribute="ILLEGALVALUE" is @attribute="" or no attribute at all

Ivan Herman: @attribute="ILLEGALVALUE" is @attribute="" or no attribute at all

14:59:00 <manu> RDFa attributes containing all invalid values should be interpreted as those attributes with an empty attribute value.

Manu Sporny: RDFa attributes containing all invalid values should be interpreted as those attributes with an empty attribute value.

14:59:23 <manu> PROPOSAL: RDFa attributes containing all invalid values should be interpreted as those attributes with an empty attribute value.

PROPOSED: RDFa attributes containing all invalid values should be interpreted as those attributes with an empty attribute value.

14:59:26 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:59:27 <tinkster> +1

Toby Inkster: +1

14:59:29 <manu> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:59:35 <Benjamin> ivan: Shane will understand that

Ivan Herman: Shane will understand that

14:59:37 <Benjamin> +1

+1

14:59:44 <Steven> "all" or "any"?

Steven Pemberton: "all" or "any"?

14:59:45 <markbirbeck> +1

Mark Birbeck: +1

14:59:49 <Knud> +1

Knud Möller: +1

15:00:15 <markbirbeck> all

Mark Birbeck: all

15:00:27 <manu> RESOLVED: RDFa attributes containing all invalid values should be interpreted as those attributes with an empty attribute value.

RESOLVED: RDFa attributes containing all invalid values should be interpreted as those attributes with an empty attribute value.

15:00:42 <Benjamin> tinkster: we should make an errata for RDFa 1.0 spec

Toby Inkster: we should make an errata for RDFa 1.0 spec

15:01:11 <Steven> Errata are here: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/REC-rdfa-syntax-20081014-errata/

Steven Pemberton: Errata are here: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/REC-rdfa-syntax-20081014-errata/

15:02:12 <manu> trackbot, issue Should RDFa allow relative URIs in any CURIE-based attribute?

Manu Sporny: trackbot, issue Should RDFa allow relative URIs in any CURIE-based attribute?

15:02:12 <trackbot> Sorry, manu, I don't understand 'trackbot, issue Should RDFa allow relative URIs in any CURIE-based attribute?'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help

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15:02:30 <ivan> Does  TERMorCURIEorURIs allow relative URI-s

Ivan Herman: Does TERMorCURIEorURIs allow relative URI-s

15:02:38 <Steven> s/FPWG/FPWD/

Steven Pemberton: s/FPWG/FPWD/

15:02:53 <manu> trackbot, ISSUE: Does TermorCURIEorURI allow relative URIs?

Manu Sporny: trackbot, ISSUE: Does TermorCURIEorURI allow relative URIs?

15:02:53 <trackbot> Sorry, manu, I don't understand 'trackbot, ISSUE: Does TermorCURIEorURI allow relative URIs?'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help

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15:02:57 <manu> ISSUE: Does TermorCURIEorURI allow relative URIs?

ISSUE: Does TermorCURIEorURI allow relative URIs?

15:02:57 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-27 - Does TermorCURIEorURI allow relative URIs? ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/27/edit .

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ISSUE-27 - Does TermorCURIEorURI allow relative URIs? ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/27/edit .

15:03:19 <manu> ACTION: Shane to errata RDFa attributes containing all invalid values should be interpreted as those attributes with an empty attribute value.

ACTION: Shane to errata RDFa attributes containing all invalid values should be interpreted as those attributes with an empty attribute value.

15:03:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-29 - Errata RDFa attributes containing all invalid values should be interpreted as those attributes with an empty attribute value. [on Shane McCarron - due 2010-05-27].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-29 - Errata RDFa attributes containing all invalid values should be interpreted as those attributes with an empty attribute value. [on Shane McCarron - due 2010-05-27].

15:04:19 <Zakim> -tinkster

Zakim IRC Bot: -tinkster

15:04:23 <Zakim> -markbirbeck

Zakim IRC Bot: -markbirbeck

15:04:25 <Zakim> -Knud

Zakim IRC Bot: -Knud

15:04:25 <Benjamin> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

15:04:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/20-rdfa-minutes.html Benjamin

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/20-rdfa-minutes.html Benjamin

15:04:26 <ivan> zakim, drop me

Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me

15:04:27 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller]

15:04:29 <Zakim> -Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven

15:04:33 <Zakim> -[MIT528]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[MIT528]

15:04:37 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected

15:04:39 <Zakim> -Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan

15:04:55 <Steven> zakim, who is on the phone?

Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is on the phone?

15:05:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see BenjaminA

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BenjaminA

15:05:10 <Zakim> -BenjaminA

Zakim IRC Bot: -BenjaminA

15:05:11 <Steven> zakim, dro pBenj

Steven Pemberton: zakim, dro pBenj

15:05:12 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended

15:05:14 <Zakim> Attendees were +03539149aaaa, [MIT528], [IPcaller], Ivan, +49.631.205.7.aabb, Knud, tinkster, BenjaminA, +0208761aacc, markbirbeck, Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +03539149aaaa, [MIT528], [IPcaller], Ivan, +49.631.205.7.aabb, Knud, tinkster, BenjaminA, +0208761aacc, markbirbeck, Steven

15:05:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'dro pBenj', Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'dro pBenj', Steven

15:05:24 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make minutes

15:05:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/20-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/20-rdfa-minutes.html Steven



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