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Minutes Day 1 Day 2

Agenda

Times in Oxford are +4 hours. Times in parentheses are UK time.

Day 1

• Optional: (10:30-12:00) Breakout Oxford (e.g. Entailment issues?)
• 8:00-8:45 (12:00-12:45) Welcome & administrivia
  • Welcome
  • Local logistics
  • Agenda amendments
  • Scribes - see Scribe List.
  • Decision/Discussion on process regarding "time-permitting features"
• 8:45-10:00 (12:45-14:00) Update Issues to get to LC
  • Finalize update language and syntax (datasets? CREATE & DROP? CLEAR? delimiters?)
    • Keep CREATE and DROP? (http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/20)
    • Keep CLEAR? (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0539.html)
    • Delimiters/Separators? (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0538.html)
    • Datasets? (http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/51 ; http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-09#line0159 ; waiting on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/202 ; http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0616.html)
  • Required and optional error conditions
    • CREATEing graphs that already exist; DROPping graphs that do not exist
  • Update spec. treatment of transactions, concurrency, security
    • Concurrency - http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/18
    • Security - http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/19
    • Atomicity, transactions - http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/26
  • Update language semantics
• 10:00-10:30 (14:00-14:30) Break
• 10:30-12:30 (14:30-16:30) Update Issues to get to LC, continued
• 12:30-13:30 (16:30-17:30) Lunch Break
• 13:30-14:30 (17:30-18:30) Update test suite
  • See http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/197
• 14:30-16:00 (18:30-20:00) Protocol; HTTP-Update Issues to get to LC
  • Protocol faults - http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/33
  • Bring protocol inline with update language
  • Testing
• Optional: 16:00-17:30 Breakout Boston (??? e.g. Update-Semantics?)

Day 2

• Optional: (10:30-12:00) Breakout Oxford (e.g. Entailment issues? TF-func?)
• 8:00-10:00 (12:00-14:00) Query Issues to get to LC
  • Handling errors in aggregates and in solution set rows - http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/53
    • See recent mailing list thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0499.html
    • See also F2F2 opinion: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/F2F2_Issue_Discussions#ISSUE-16:_Mixed_datatypes_with_built-in_aggregates
  • Decide standard set of aggregates - http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/14
    • GROUP_CONCAT?
      • If so, separator string? http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/55
    • SAMPLE?
    • Anything else? (extensibility? how do we handle it in the spec?)
  • GROUP BY with expressions? http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/41
  • Decide NOT EXISTS vs. MINUS - http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/29
  • Decide (NOT) EXISTS in FILTERs - @@ can't find reference to discussions @@
• 10:00-10:45 (14:00-14:45) Break
• 10:45-12:45 (14:30-16:45) Query issues, continued, Property Paths, & test suite
  • Property Paths issues http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0566.html
  • Actions on testcases: ACTION-191-ACTION-199
• 12:45-13:30 (16:30-17:30) Lunch Break
• 13:30-14:30 (17:30-18:30) Entailment Issues to get to LC
  • Issues to be closed? ISSUE-28, ISSUE-40 (update+entailment) ISSUE-34 (aggregates+entailment) ISSUE-42 (inconsistencies)
  • Finite answer criteria
  • Datatype canonicalisation
  • rif:imports (time-allowed?)
• 14:30-15:30 (18:30-19:30) Service description issues to LC & testing
  • Decide vocabulary for available graphs / dataset (and POWDER)
  • Entailments per graph? (Now have the modeling to allow this) ISSUE-43
  • URIs and media types for result formats
  • Indicate empty graphs can exist? Are CREATE/DROP required/optional/noop?
• 15:30-16:00 (19:30-20:00) Wrapping up open issues from other sessions, planning
• Optional: 16:00-17:30 Breakout Boston (??? e.g. TF-func?)