SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 31 July 2012

Present

Gregory Williams, Andy Seaborne, Birte Glimm, Steve Harris, Chimezie Ogbuji, Matthew Perry, Paul Gearon, Lee Feigenbaum

Scribe

Gregory Williams

IRC Log

Original and Editable Wiki Version

Resolutions

1. Unapprove tests bindings/manifest#b[1-8] and syntax-query/manifest#test_3[5-8] and services/manifest#service4 and property-path/manifest#pp28 as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0081.html link
2. Approve the 3 service description tests service-description/manifest#conforms-to-schema service-description/manifest#has-endpoint-triple & service-description/manifest#returns-rdf link

Topics

1. testsuite

   Need to put GSP test suite on next week's agenda

<kasei> Present: Greg, AndyS, bglimm, SteveH, chimezie, MattPerry, pgearon, Lee_Feigenbaum

13:59:32 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/07/31-sparql-irc

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13:59:34 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

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13:59:36 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 77277 ←

13:59:36 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute ←

13:59:37 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

13:59:37 <trackbot> Date: 31 July 2012

13:59:45 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone? ←

13:59:45 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AndyS ←

13:59:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, MattPerry, bglimm, MacTed, LeeF, AndyS, iv_an_ru, SteveH, pgearon, trackbot, kasei, sandro, ya, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, MattPerry, bglimm, MacTed, LeeF, AndyS, iv_an_ru, SteveH, pgearon, trackbot, kasei, sandro, ya, ericP ←

14:00:13 <AndyS> zakim, start 77277

Andy Seaborne: zakim, start 77277 ←

14:00:13 <Zakim> I don't understand 'start 77277', AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'start 77277', AndyS ←

14:00:19 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone? ←

14:00:19 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AndyS ←

14:00:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, MattPerry, bglimm, MacTed, LeeF, AndyS, iv_an_ru, SteveH, pgearon, trackbot, kasei, sandro, ya, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, MattPerry, bglimm, MacTed, LeeF, AndyS, iv_an_ru, SteveH, pgearon, trackbot, kasei, sandro, ya, ericP ←

14:00:31 <SteveH> Zakim, this is 77277

Steve Harris: Zakim, this is 77277 ←

14:00:31 <Zakim> ok, SteveH; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, SteveH; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM ←

14:00:38 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone? ←

14:00:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P2, kasei, ??P6, ??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P2, kasei, ??P6, ??P8 ←

14:00:48 <AndyS> zakim, ??P2 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P2 is me ←

14:00:48 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←

14:00:53 <bglimm> Zakim, ??P8 is me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, ??P8 is me ←

14:00:53 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm; got it ←

14:01:02 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←

14:01:02 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←

14:01:09 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P6 is me

Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P6 is me ←

14:01:09 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveH; got it ←

14:01:16 <bglimm> ack me

Birte Glimm: ack me ←

14:01:23 <bglimm> Zakim, ack me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, ack me ←

14:01:23 <Zakim> I see ??P8, ??P6 on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see ??P8, ??P6 on the speaker queue ←

14:01:33 <SteveH> Zakim, q=

Steve Harris: Zakim, q= ←

14:01:35 <Zakim> SteveH, if you meant to query the queue, please say 'q?'; if you meant to replace the queue, please say 'queue= ...'

Zakim IRC Bot: SteveH, if you meant to query the queue, please say 'q?'; if you meant to replace the queue, please say 'queue= ...' ←

14:01:45 <SteveH> Zakim, queue=

Steve Harris: Zakim, queue= ←

14:01:45 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see no one on the speaker queue ←

14:01:58 <bglimm> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Birte Glimm: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←

14:01:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, kasei, SteveH, bglimm

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, kasei, SteveH, bglimm ←

14:02:20 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←

14:02:22 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←

14:02:54 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.603.897.aaaa ←

14:03:00 <Zakim> + +1.216.694.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.216.694.aabb ←

14:03:07 <chimezie> Zakim, +1.216.694.aabb is me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, +1.216.694.aabb is me ←

14:03:07 <Zakim> +chimezie; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +chimezie; got it ←

14:03:10 <MattPerry> zakim, aaaa is me

Matthew Perry: zakim, aaaa is me ←

14:03:10 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry; got it ←

14:03:16 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←

14:03:16 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should now be muted ←

14:04:05 <Zakim> +pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon ←

14:05:32 <SteveH> ping LeeF  ?

Steve Harris: ping LeeF ? ←

14:06:55 <AndyS> OK - plan C in a couple of mins - ad hoc.

Andy Seaborne: OK - plan C in a couple of mins - ad hoc. ←

14:07:14 <SteveH> I have to go in about 10 mins

Steve Harris: I have to go in about 10 mins ←

14:07:58 <bglimm> at least we could record holiday plans

Birte Glimm: at least we could record holiday plans ←

14:08:10 <SteveH> I can scribe for 10 mins

Steve Harris: I can scribe for 10 mins ←

14:08:16 <kasei> i can do it after that

Gregory Williams: i can do it after that ←

14:08:39 <SteveH> AndyS: queyr went to 3rd LC - no substantive comments

Andy Seaborne: queyr went to 3rd LC - no substantive comments [ Scribe Assist by Steve Harris ] ←

14:08:54 <SteveH> … one question from David B., just a question

Steve Harris: … one question from David B., just a question ←

14:08:55 <LeeF> I'm here, I'm here. Sigh, I stink.

Lee Feigenbaum: I'm here, I'm here. Sigh, I stink. ←

14:09:23 <Zakim> +Lee_Feigenbaum

Zakim IRC Bot: +Lee_Feigenbaum ←

14:09:34 <SteveH> … message from Greg about testsuite status

Steve Harris: … message from Greg about testsuite status ←

14:09:53 <SteveH> … few update issues around

Steve Harris: … few update comments around ←

14:10:04 <SteveH> s/issues/comments/

14:10:14 <SteveH> pgearon: not sure, some are not done

Paul Gearon: not sure, some are not done [ Scribe Assist by Steve Harris ] ←

14:10:39 <SteveH> … will chase them up after the (abreviated) call

Steve Harris: … will chase them up after the (abreviated) call ←

14:10:53 <SteveH> AndyS: couple of David B comments

Andy Seaborne: couple of David B comments [ Scribe Assist by Steve Harris ] ←

14:11:26 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←

14:11:26 <Zakim> chimezie should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should no longer be muted ←

14:11:29 <SteveH> … and some for chimezie

Steve Harris: … and some for chimezie ←

14:11:54 <SteveH> chimezie: are there a couple of GSP comments still open

Chimezie Ogbuji: are there a couple of GSP comments still open [ Scribe Assist by Steve Harris ] ←

14:11:57 <SteveH> AndyS: yes

Andy Seaborne: yes [ Scribe Assist by Steve Harris ] ←

14:12:01 <AndyS> KK-6, GR-3

Andy Seaborne: KK-6, GR-3 ←

14:12:07 <AndyS> KK-6, GR-3

Andy Seaborne: KK-6, GR-3 ←

14:12:09 <AndyS> GR-4

Andy Seaborne: GR-4 ←

14:12:15 <AndyS> KK-8, KK-9

Andy Seaborne: KK-8, KK-9 ←

14:12:24 <AndyS> KK-13

Andy Seaborne: KK-13 ←

14:12:24 <SteveH> AndyS: I think some of these are done

Andy Seaborne: I think some of these are done [ Scribe Assist by Steve Harris ] ←

14:12:29 <SteveH> … from memory

Steve Harris: … from memory ←

14:12:59 <Zakim> -chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: -chimezie ←

14:13:03 <chimezie> Will check those

Chimezie Ogbuji: Will check those ←

14:13:16 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments ←

14:13:32 <SteveH> AndyS: looking for red comments

Andy Seaborne: looking for red comments [ Scribe Assist by Steve Harris ] ←

14:14:56 <AndyS> RC-2 draft

Andy Seaborne: RC-2 draft ←

14:16:23 <SteveH> Topic: testsuite

14:16:30 <kasei> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0081.html

Gregory Williams: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0081.html ←

14:16:35 <SteveH> kasei: sent email ^^

Gregory Williams: sent email ^^ [ Scribe Assist by Steve Harris ] ←

14:16:47 <SteveH> .. there's a few typos, but in general I think it's the current state

Steve Harris: .. there's a few typos, but in general I think it's the current state ←

14:16:54 <SteveH> … about 12 tests need unapproving

Steve Harris: … about 12 tests need unapproving ←

14:17:01 <SteveH> … one needs changing

Steve Harris: … one needs changing ←

14:17:17 <SteveH> … there's a list of tests that are waiting agreement, but have multiple agreement

Steve Harris: … there's a list of tests that are waiting agreement, but have multiple agreement ←

14:17:29 <SteveH> s/agreement$/implementation/

Steve Harris: s/agreement$/implementation/ (warning: replacement failed) ←

14:17:51 <SteveH> AndyS: can we do the unaproving, all to do with BINDINGS

Andy Seaborne: can we do the unaproving, all to do with BINDINGS [ Scribe Assist by Steve Harris ] ←

14:18:14 <SteveH> … and can we do the fix, and go for mass approval of long list later

Steve Harris: … and can we do the fix, and go for mass approval of long list later ←

14:19:06 <SteveH> AndyS: let unapprove a PP test too

Andy Seaborne: let unapprove a PP test too [ Scribe Assist by Steve Harris ] ←

14:19:29 <LeeF> #pp28

Lee Feigenbaum: #pp28 ←

14:19:45 <kasei> and bindings/manifest#b1 - #b8

Gregory Williams: and bindings/manifest#b1 - #b8 ←

14:20:16 <kasei> scribenick: kasei

(Scribe set to Gregory Williams)

14:20:20 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Unapprove tests bindings/manifest#b[1-8] and syntax-query/manifest#test_3[5-8] and services/manifest#service4 and property-path/manifest#pp28 as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0081.html

PROPOSED: Unapprove tests bindings/manifest#b[1-8] and syntax-query/manifest#test_3[5-8] and services/manifest#service4 and property-path/manifest#pp28 as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0081.html ←

14:20:26 <Zakim> -SteveH

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH ←

14:20:32 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1 ←

14:20:40 <MattPerry> +1

Matthew Perry: +1 ←

14:20:41 <kasei> +1

+1 ←

14:20:42 <bglimm> +1

Birte Glimm: +1 ←

14:20:43 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Unapprove tests bindings/manifest#b[1-8] and syntax-query/manifest#test_3[5-8] and services/manifest#service4 and property-path/manifest#pp28 as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0081.html

RESOLVED: Unapprove tests bindings/manifest#b[1-8] and syntax-query/manifest#test_3[5-8] and services/manifest#service4 and property-path/manifest#pp28 as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0081.html ←

14:21:22 <kasei> kasei: I can commit these changes after the call.

Gregory Williams: I can commit these changes after the call. ←

14:21:26 <LeeF> ACTION: Gregory to record unapprovals

ACTION: Gregory to record unapprovals ←

14:21:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-662 - Record unapprovals [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-08-07].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-662 - Record unapprovals [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-08-07]. ←

14:21:28 <kasei> AndyS: I can write a new test for pp28

Andy Seaborne: I can write a new test for pp28 ←

14:21:41 <kasei> ... and can run all the tests.

... and can run all the tests. ←

14:21:44 <LeeF> ACTION: Andy to write a new test for pp28 and run a new report for ARQ on all the tests

ACTION: Andy to write a new test for pp28 and run a new report for ARQ on all the tests ←

14:21:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-663 - Write a new test for pp28 and run a new report for ARQ on all the tests [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-08-07].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-663 - Write a new test for pp28 and run a new report for ARQ on all the tests [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-08-07]. ←

14:22:01 <kasei> LeeF: that would bring us totally up to date on query, correct?

Lee Feigenbaum: that would bring us totally up to date on query, correct? ←

14:22:03 <kasei> AndyS: yes.

Andy Seaborne: yes. ←

14:22:22 <kasei> LeeF: what's the situation with the two notclassified update tests?

Lee Feigenbaum: what's the situation with the two notclassified update tests? ←

14:24:25 <kasei> kasei: this was the fix to Axel's new-ish test (regarding parsing of bnodes)

Gregory Williams: this was the fix to Axel's new-ish test (regarding parsing of bnodes) ←

14:24:59 <kasei> ... the fix needs approval with all the rest next week.

... the fix needs approval with all the rest next week. ←

14:25:25 <kasei> LeeF: what about entailment tests?

Lee Feigenbaum: what about entailment tests? ←

14:25:40 <kasei> ... are there people we should reach out to that could run the test suite?

... are there people we should reach out to that could run the test suite? ←

14:25:49 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←

14:25:49 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←

14:26:18 <kasei> bglimm: I haven't finished implementation, and am going on holiday. Will try to do that when I get back.

Birte Glimm: I haven't finished implementation, and am going on holiday. Will try to do that when I get back. ←

14:26:41 <kasei> ... I can run the tests, but still some things that I need to fix before I can do a proper implementation report.

... I can run the tests, but still some things that I need to fix before I can do a proper implementation report. ←

14:26:55 <kasei> bglimm: I'm only implementing the direct semantics regime.

Birte Glimm: I'm only implementing the direct semantics regime. ←

14:26:59 <LeeF> kasei, sorry

Lee Feigenbaum: kasei, sorry ←

14:27:06 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←

14:27:06 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←

14:27:26 <bglimm> Jeff is implementing at the moment

Birte Glimm: Jeff is implementing at the moment ←

14:27:52 <bglimm> and I also contacted Michael Schneider and he is currently working on the RDF-Based semantics regime

Birte Glimm: and I also contacted Michael Schneider and he is currently working on the RDF-Based semantics regime ←

14:28:04 <kasei> LeeF: Stardog does some entailment. Do we know specifics?

Lee Feigenbaum: Stardog does some entailment. Do we know specifics? ←

14:28:05 <bglimm> I haven't talked to Kendall yet

Birte Glimm: I haven't talked to Kendall yet ←

14:28:17 <bglimm> Michael Schneider will also support RDF and RDFS

Birte Glimm: Michael Schneider will also support RDF and RDFS ←

14:28:32 <bglimm> We'll need RIF implementations

Birte Glimm: We'll need RIF implementations ←

14:28:50 <kasei> ... would be good to determine where we stand in terms of which tests we think will have implementation coverage.

... would be good to determine where we stand in terms of which tests we think will have implementation coverage. ←

14:28:56 <bglimm> Chime maybe?

Birte Glimm: Chime maybe? ←

14:29:17 <pgearon> Errr… I implement RIF

Paul Gearon: Errr… I implement RIF ←

14:29:23 <bglimm> :-)

Birte Glimm: :-) ←

14:30:02 <kasei> LeeF: paul, can we get you to run the entailment tests?

Lee Feigenbaum: paul, can we get you to run the entailment tests? ←

14:30:08 <bglimm> I guess we also need more tests ;-)

Birte Glimm: I guess we also need more tests ;-) ←

14:30:12 <kasei> pgearon: I can try to get it done outside of work.

Paul Gearon: I can try to get it done outside of work. ←

14:30:20 <bglimm> That's also still on my TODO list

Birte Glimm: That's also still on my TODO list ←

14:30:45 <kasei> AndyS: I'm sure revelytix would like to be on th implementation report.

Andy Seaborne: I'm sure revelytix would like to be on th implementation report. ←

14:31:51 <kasei> LeeF: service description?

Lee Feigenbaum: service description? ←

14:32:55 <kasei> kasei: Chime and I both have implementations that pass the tests.

Gregory Williams: Chime and I both have implementations that pass the tests. ←

14:32:59 <kasei> ... need to approve the tests.

... need to approve the tests. ←

14:33:20 <kasei> LeeF: could we approve the tests right now?

Lee Feigenbaum: could we approve the tests right now? ←

14:34:39 <kasei> https://github.com/kasei/sparql11-sdvalidator

https://github.com/kasei/sparql11-sdvalidator ←

14:35:29 <kasei> kasei: the documentation at the github page for the service description validator has some brief description of the three tests.

Gregory Williams: the documentation at the github page for the service description validator has some brief description of the three tests. ←

14:36:08 <kasei> LeeF: happy with the three test descriptions.

Lee Feigenbaum: happy with the three test descriptions. ←

14:36:54 <LeeF>  PROPOSED: Approve the 3 service description tests at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/

Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: Approve the 3 service description tests at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/ ←

14:37:42 <LeeF>  PROPOSED: Approve the 3 service description tests service-description/manifest#conforms-to-schema service-description/manifest#has-endpoint-triple & service-description/manifest#returns-rdf

Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: Approve the 3 service description tests service-description/manifest#conforms-to-schema service-description/manifest#has-endpoint-triple & service-description/manifest#returns-rdf ←

14:37:46 <kasei> +1

+1 ←

14:37:58 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve the 3 service description tests service-description/manifest#conforms-to-schema service-description/manifest#has-endpoint-triple & service-description/manifest#returns-rdf

PROPOSED: Approve the 3 service description tests service-description/manifest#conforms-to-schema service-description/manifest#has-endpoint-triple & service-description/manifest#returns-rdf ←

14:38:01 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve the 3 service description tests service-description/manifest#conforms-to-schema service-description/manifest#has-endpoint-triple & service-description/manifest#returns-rdf

RESOLVED: Approve the 3 service description tests service-description/manifest#conforms-to-schema service-description/manifest#has-endpoint-triple & service-description/manifest#returns-rdf ←

14:38:11 <LeeF> ACTION: Gregory to mark the Sd tests as approved

ACTION: Gregory to mark the Sd tests as approved ←

14:38:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-664 - Mark the Sd tests as approved [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-08-07].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-664 - Mark the Sd tests as approved [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-08-07]. ←

14:38:42 <kasei> LeeF: protocol validator status?

Lee Feigenbaum: protocol validator status? ←

14:40:11 <kasei> kasei: I had gotten about half way through the work on implementing the protocol validator.

Gregory Williams: I had gotten about half way through the work on implementing the protocol validator. ←

14:40:22 <kasei> ... good idea on path forward, just having trouble finding the time to finish it.

... good idea on path forward, just having trouble finding the time to finish it. ←

14:40:37 <kasei> LeeF: have we discussed GSP testing?

Lee Feigenbaum: have we discussed GSP testing? ←

14:41:04 <kasei> ... need to add that to the agenda (next week)

... need to add that to the agenda (next week) ←

14:41:25 <kasei> ... who implements GSP?

... who implements GSP? ←

14:41:41 <kasei> kasei: Kjetil has been working on an implementation. could check with him on status.

Gregory Williams: Kjetil has been working on an implementation. could check with him on status. ←

14:41:47 <kasei> AndyS: I do. Steve does as well.

Andy Seaborne: I do. Steve does as well. ←

14:42:29 <LeeF> Summary: Need to put GSP test suite on next week's agenda

14:42:52 <kasei> LeeF: should be able to wrap up query and update next week.

14:43:03 <kasei> ... JSON is fine. Federation should be done next week.

14:43:11 <kasei> ... entailment has a path forward, but we don't know the timeline yet.

14:43:11 <bglimm> I updated last years vacation list: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Vacation_List2012

14:43:15 <kasei> ... CSV/TSV is fine.

14:43:22 <kasei> ... SD has a path forward that should be quick.

14:43:30 <bglimm> So we could also record our vacation plans there

14:43:30 <kasei> ... Protocol has a path forward, but work needed to make progress.

14:43:35 <AndyS> q+ to speak when this section is finished

14:43:37 <kasei> ... GSP needs discussion next week.

14:44:11 <kasei> AndyS: advertisement of recent publication?

14:44:27 <kasei> LeeF: W3C announcement has been done. haven't reached out to RDF WG yet. let's do that now.

14:44:35 <AndyS> ack me

14:44:35 <Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to speak when this section is finished

14:45:04 <bglimm> OWL WG?

14:45:12 <bglimm> RIF?

14:45:47 <bglimm> Also we got both RIF and OWL to review the Ent. Regimes doc I believe

14:46:10 <bglimm> s/Also/Althouhg/

14:46:49 <kasei> q+ to ask about test suite CVS

14:47:50 <kasei> LeeF: anything specific we want other groups to look at?

14:48:12 <kasei> ... at risk parts of document?

14:49:48 <kasei> LeeF: the at risk note at the start of query section 19... all 4 of those changes are in the document currently?

14:50:15 <kasei> AndyS: would have to check how \u escapes are worded.

14:50:32 <kasei> ... I think the statement is true.

14:50:53 <kasei> ... shouldn't be a colon in the 3rd bullet point.

14:51:31 <kasei> LeeF: will include this as something to look at in reviews.

14:53:37 <LeeF> q?

14:54:22 <LeeF> ack kasei

14:54:22 <Zakim> kasei, you wanted to ask about test suite CVS

14:55:13 <kasei> kasei: wondering if we ever figured out the problems with CVS that were yielding outdated versions of the test suite via http.

14:55:34 <kasei> LeeF: don't remember this issue.

14:57:43 <kasei> kasei: jeen had suggested publishing a tarball of the test suite once its stabilized.

14:57:44 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Vacation_List2012

14:57:49 <kasei> LeeF: happy to do that when we get there.

14:58:20 <pgearon> +q

14:58:25 <LeeF> ack pgearon

14:58:45 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Future_Work_Items

14:58:48 <kasei> pgearon: one of david booth's comments was a wish list item. is there a document where we're keeping things like that?

14:58:59 <pgearon> q-