<daniel> me Oops, I can't make a call in office due to line construction tonight...sigh...

<wonsuk> 1)

<chris_ibbt> scribe: chris_ibbt

minute approval

<wbailer> http://www.w3.org/2009/12/08-mediaann-minutes.html

minutes approved

the link to the scribe list is not yet updated

<daniel> Please make sure the next call schedule : January 19 of 2010

florian volunteers to scribe next meeting

werner: is january 19 ok for next phone conf?

<wonsuk> i think January 19 of 2010 is too late... :-)

<wbailer> was there a reason not to schedule for 12th, daniel?

<daniel> 12th is workable neither myself nor Joakim...unfortunately

werner: let's stay with january 19

<wbailer> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open

open action items

action-47 is ongoing

action-124 remains open

same for action-135 to action-171

veronique: waiting for feedback on updates of ontology document relating to action-171

action-175: some updates have been sent on the mailing list

<trackbot> ACTION-175 Define data type mappings as soon as the data types for the formats are defined notes added

action-175 -- some updates have been sent on the mailing list

daniel sent mails to the authors of the mapping tables

<daniel> action-197 can be closed

<wbailer> daniel, do you keep track of the updates of the format mapping tables?

<daniel> yes,

close action-197

<trackbot> ACTION-197 Daniel to remind table editors to update closed

action-194

Joakim sent the mails regarding action-194

close action-195

<trackbot> ACTION-195 Update the API document regarding error management closed

close action-194

<trackbot> ACTION-194 Send a mail to silvia about the implementation of the API in browsers and the need to address several metadata sources closed

action 196 is ongoing

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 196

action-196 is ongoing

<daniel> Yes, 196 is still ongoing

now discussing action-198

<wonsuk> action-198 has been done

<wbailer> wonsuk, do you consider the uc&req document ready for publishing?

<wonsuk> I think so...

werner: we could vote for publishing the updated version

veronique: do we need a minimum number of participants?

daniel what's your opinion?

<wbailer> votes against publishing the current version?

<daniel> it depends, if no strong objection, we can go to the publication.

<florian> +1 for publication

<daniel> +1

werner: this document can be further updated

<wonsuk> +1!!!

florian: were the acknowledgements updated?

<wonsuk> not yet.. so before publication i will update that part

werner: give wonsuk an action to update it

<wbailer> ACTION: wonsuk to update acknowledgements section of uc& req document and to notify chairs when it's ready for publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/15-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-201 - Update acknowledgements section of uc& req document and to notify chairs when it's ready for publication [on WonSuk Lee - due 2009-12-22].

action-200 on thierry can be closed

close action-200

<trackbot> ACTION-200 Send a mail to the group explaining the different document spaces and why some documents are to be removed closed

werner: the documents are cleaned

Requirements document update - Wonsuk

has been done

<wbailer> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html

<cpoppe> werner: any other open issues to be included?

<daniel> security part should be included in API doc ?

<wonsuk> Daniel, yes.. i will do that..

<wbailer> ACTION: wonsuk to include security part in api document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/15-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-202 - Include security part in api document [on WonSuk Lee - due 2009-12-22].

<cpoppe> veronique: does the api consider that the metadata is embedded?

<daniel> ok, please make a new action item to wonsuk for adding security section into API doc.

<cpoppe> currently it does not define where to get the metadata

<cpoppe> werner: we might want to deal this when identifying the context of a media resource or metadata document

<cpoppe> it is not in the API document yet

<cpoppe> ACTION: chris to come up with a proposal of methods that allow to identify the media resource and metadata documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/15-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-203 - Come up with a proposal of methods that allow to identify the media resource and metadata documents [on Chris Poppe - due 2009-12-22].

<veroniqueM> scribe: cpoppe

werner: any other comments?

API implementation experiences – Chris

http://multimedialab.elis.ugent.be/users/chpoppe/MediaAnnotations.html

werner: thanks for making a test implementation
... any comments?

<wbailer> chris: webidl only has bindings for java and javscript

werner: might be problem for web services

currently the mappings are hardcoded in javascript

meaning no semantic web technologies used

werner: comments from other people?

<daniel> As Thierry pointed, probably we should come up to the F2F with a list of features we need to test.

<daniel> If Chris'implementation can come up with some of features, that might be very valuable at this stage, are you available ?

pierre-antoine proposed to return an uri for each returned object

this was discussed on the mailing list

and is now integrated in the api document

<daniel> Also, any ongoing implementation for ontology doc ?

werner: on last F2F we defined some test suites
... it was mainly for the title property
... I am not sure what daniel means with the ongoing implementation

<wbailer> daniel, do you mean about updating the ontology document?

<daniel> no likewise Chris's API implementation for sharing

veronique: when is the F2F?

werner: scheduled for the last week of february

daniel can you confirm?

veronique: we should have an updated version of the ontology document sent to the list

<daniel> It's being scheduled, and a bit delayed due to MFWG joint. Surely we will confirm that within a couple of weeks.

<daniel> sorry for the delay.

daniel can you explain what you mean with an implementation of the ontology document?

<veroniqueM> Daniel: it seems that we do not have "one" official serialisation of the Media Ontology

<daniel> working cross different metadata standards through our ontology mapping and implementation results, some like this...just curious

<daniel> just curious any other ongoing implementation in our group...

werner: there are several ways to formalize the ontology

<daniel> let me speak about at next teleconf on the call...sorry

in the test implementation of the API, the ontology is implemented in the code itself

the test implementation has also not been made with respect to the test suites

werner: any other topics?

<daniel> thanks werner for charing today call, and very glad to work with all of you, happy new year

<wonsuk> thanks all..

<wonsuk> merry christmas~

<veroniqueM> \me merry xmas and New Year!

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