W3C

Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

07 Apr 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
adam, francois, jo, tomhume, yeliz, DKA, Kai, DavidStorey, miguel, rob, SeanP, nacho_on_IRC
Regrets
alanc, manrique, SangwhanMoon
Chair
jo
Scribe
adam

Contents


Review of F2F

<jo> Minutes - day 1

<jo> Minutes - day 2

<jo> Minutes - day 3

francois: we should discuss schedule for next working draft of MWABP.

francois: Day 2, CT. I have been actioned to investigate test suite to test conformance to same origin policy. Will send a mail before the end of this week to follow up.
... On topic of HTTPS, continued to agree to disagree. Resolution taken that there is no way to transform https content except rewriting links, but it is strongly discouraged.
... Day 3, Korean MobileOK trial.
... Gap analysis between MobileOK BP and Korean market presented. We passed resolution to accept regional variations of MobileOK.
... On relationship on WCAG and BP, working group endorses this document and is waiting for final approval to publish.

Working Group Extension

jo: We won't complete our work by June, so we need to request an extension if we want to continue work. This needs a resolution.

francois: We still have a little time so long as we are only extending the deadline. We should wait to see where we are at and request only the months we are going to need and not more. The process should be fast enough to make this request end of May.

<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: We don't know quite how much time we will need, or what we will be doing so we will review charter extension in May

<tomhume> +1

<Kai> +1

<EdC> +1

<francois> +1

<rob> +1

<SeanP> +1

dka: I wonder what work we will actually be doing during this extension. Will we really be doing WG work or simply shepherding the final stages of the document. In which case would rather avoid the additional f2f meeting.

<yeliz> +1

+1

RESOLUTION: We don't know quite how much time we will need, or what we will be doing so we will review charter extension in May

F2F in November.

jo: Poll indicated that West coast is not favourite location.

<jo> Poll on Nov F2F

francois: Have responded to cross WG questionnaire with expected participants = 12, but we expect to be finished by then in which case we won't attend.

<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Review when to hold final F2F at same time as reviewing request for charter extension

<EdC> +1

RESOLUTION: Review when to hold final F2F at same time as reviewing request for charter extension

BP1.5 status.

<jo> Live edited document

<francois> Minutes of editorial meeting on BP1.5

Kai: We had an editorial meeting and made a number of changes. Waiting final touch of word-smithing and to make document styles coherent.

jo: Some outstanding questions about collapsing sections or removing some sections that don't work. In this final iteration we may move things around a little, but lets see how that goes.

Kai: There is one more editorial session to agree on.

<EdC> Is it to be completed before or after the MWBP?

jo: MWABP and BP1.5 is asynchronous -- there is no dependency.

BP2 status.

adam: Haven't had chance to act on changes from F2F yet, will do so this week. We can decide based on this new draft whether we are ready to make another public draft.

MobileOK Scheme Status

jo: Having had discussion with Rigo, we are ready to make final changes to document. Jo will work on this over next couple of weeks, hopefully done by May.

CT Status

<jo> Open Issues and Actions on CT

<jo> Issue-285?

<trackbot> ISSUE-285 -- Does BPWG feel it can write Best Practices on links rewriting in the CT guidelines? Or that it cannot be a best practice? -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/285

<jo> ACTION-925?

<trackbot> ACTION-925 -- François Daoust to ascertain the availability of tests that ensure that same origin policy conformance, when implemented in this way, can be tested -- due 2009-04-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/925

jo: This issue is still open, awaiting Francois' ACTION: 925

<jo> ACTION-929?

<trackbot> ACTION-929 -- Eduardo Casais to write an abstract for CT. -- due 2009-04-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/929

jo: Some editorial actions on me, still in progress. ACTION-929 on Eduardo.

EdC: Still to be done.

jo: The rest are probably on me.

francois: Two actions on me. Registration of x- headers, not blocking draft. Same origin tests is blocking.

<jo> ISSUE-295?

<trackbot> ISSUE-295 -- It is impossible to reconcile pragmatism and expediency with good practice -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/295

jo: ISSUE-295, do we want to keep this in, in the light of continued discussions?
... We should just close it.

<SeanP> Close it.

<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Close ISSUE-295 as we are unable to do anything about it

<EdC> +1

<tomhume> 0

<jo> +1

<SeanP> +1

<tomhume> was suggesting (frivolously)... that keeping this open as a reminder to us and others might be helpful

<tomhume> seeing as it's kinda core to the problems we're having

jo: Okay, lets leave it for now.

francois: Should review all the last-call comments to extract from the list the things that need editing. Need final draft before we send responses.

<jo> ACTION: Daoust to review last call comments on CT to see where the responses need editing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-956 - Review last call comments on CT to see where the responses need editing [on François Daoust - due 2009-04-14].

AOB

jo: nothing further. until next week.

<tomhume> bye all

<nacho> bye all... have a nice easter

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Daoust to review last call comments on CT to see where the responses need editing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/07-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
 
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