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<trackbot> Date: 25 February 2009
<raphael> Scribe: Silvia
<raphael> scribenick: nessy
welcome to Conrad as new invited expert
Conrad introduce himself
scribe: worked on Annodex for a
while
... recently worked on timed URI servers
... in corporation with Xiph.org, Mozilla and Wikipedia
... keen to provide input
... is in Japan
... 2 hours behind Silvia
... might provide one more implementation of the
specification
... I'm a PhD student at Kyoto university, currently
contracting for Mozilla/Wikipedia, but independent expert
Rapahel proposes to accept minutes of 11th Feb
http://www.w3.org/2009/02/11-mediafrag-minutes.html
<davy> +1
<erik> +1
+1
<Gui> +1
Next F2F meeting (Barcelona, 16-17 April):
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Feb/0046.html
scribe: Michael, Raphael will be
there
... who else will be there?
... Davy and Eric will be there, too
... Silvia apologizes
... can participate via irc & phone
... will send availability
... Conrad is trying to work out a way
... Silvia & Conrad, if paper to W4A conf is accepted, one
has to be there
... Guillaume also has a paper in W4A
... Raphael will ask again next week re attendance at next
F2F
<erik> +q
scribe: for those who cannot
attend, highly recommended to be available on phone and
irc
... Erik thinks phone hook up last time worked well
... Yves will take care of zakim bridge
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to take care of zakim bridge for F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-44 - Take care of zakim bridge for F2F [on Yves Lafon - due 2009-03-04].
close ACTION-20
<trackbot> ACTION-20 Check with Wolfgang whether he is still interested in this WG closed
Wolfgang has left the Uni and won't be available
close ACTION-18
<trackbot> ACTION-18 See with Marie Claire who from Daily Motion can join closed
Dailymotion hasn't got enough interest
close ACTION-21
<trackbot> ACTION-21 Check with Philippe the status of Cisco (Paul Bosso), Apple (Dave Singer or Eric Carlson) closed
we'll wait if Philippe has a suggestion for an alternative contact
3.1 WD Template:
close ACTION-33
<trackbot> ACTION-33 Start the template of the document closed
Raphael has prepared a template
<raphael> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/
scribe: will check in html
files
... will send reminder on who is responsible for which
section
Erik suggests to add hard deadlines to the sections, so we can go towards our milestones
Raphael suggests that a week per sections may be do-able because it's a straight copy from the wiki
Erik agrees
scribe: asks, when we want the document to be posted/published, so we can work backwards towards deadlines
Raphael says that our first working draft was due by end of January
scribe: we should have it all ready by mid march
<erik> +1
scribe: mostly 2-3 teleconfs to
finalize
... will send reminder email
3.2 Syntax:
<raphael> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Feb/0032.html
Time formats: Jack (ACTION-28) and follow-up thread
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Feb/0013.html
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Syntax#Dimensions
Conrad will post more comments
close ACTION-41
<trackbot> ACTION-41 Rewrite Syntax in ABNF based on RFC4234 closed
Yves has posted a ABNF
Michael suggested to write the generic rule at the top and go into more detail further down
Yves reckons this is a matter of taste
Yves will add more details to link it to the original URI spec
Raphael thinks we decided to have either a named fragment or a combination of the others
<Gui> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Syntax#Formal_Grammar
scribe: this is not represented right now
Yves thinks this is hard to capture in the production rule, and better to describe in text
Let's give this a try and see what comments we get back
3.3 Use Cases & Requirements Discussion
close ACTION-43
<trackbot> ACTION-43 Incorporate changes proposed by reviewers of the Use Case and Requirements Wiki page closed
Gui has made changes, but wants to bring up a few points
scribe: will send an email that
summarises the changes
... wants to add a use case
<Gui> https://wiki.mozilla.org/images/thumb/4/40/Model_Video_Resource.jpg/800px-Model_Video_Resource.jpg
scribe: wants to add a
picture
... do we want to add this picture as a line graph
Raphael & Silvia agree
Gui will send email and add graph
we need time to go through changes and have possibly a further discussion
Gui encourages everybody to re-read the use cases page
Silvia will do thorough review before including into WD
3.4 Existing Technologies Survey (Erik)
close ACTION-16
<trackbot> ACTION-16 Go through the email lists to list different solutions used to identify fragments, and populate the wiki closed
Erik will do ACTION-23 by next week
close ACTION-24
<trackbot> ACTION-24 (through extra info from Felix) to ask Adobe (Larry) more info about xmpMM:Ingredients closed
information also gathered from Media Annotations WG
3.5 HTTP implementation (Raphael)
Raphael has long-standing action on 2-way and 4-way handshake description
2-way is in wiki
4-way is started
scribe: will try to finish it
today
... will send email to start discussion
Michael is still working on ACTION-42 and ISSUE-3
<scribe> ongoing discussion
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: right now we
have focus on getting WD out
... discuss this again when we are happy about WD
<erik> none
none
Raphael thanks everybody for joining and closes the meeting
<Gui> thanks bye bye
<raphael> adjourned