HTML Issue Tracking Teleconference

Open Action Items

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda

<Gregory> GJR: notes that PF has invited simon pieters to join to expedite the process

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/8

"Discuss with PFWG role attribute vs aria attribute", on Michael Cooper

<DanC> I updated actions/8

keeping Action 8 open pending more talk with Michael Cooper

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/13

"Talk to WebAPI and WAF WGs about their role in offline API stuff and how they work with and contribute to the discussion", on chaals

<Gregory> last PF WG meeting (MC's action discussed) - member confidential archive: http://www.w3.org/2007/11/26-pf-minutes.html

ChrisW will bring up Action 13 with HCG

<DanC> updated actions/13 reassigned to ChrisW, due 13 Dec

ChrisWilson: what prompted this action?

DanC: yeah, Saturday f2f discussion about offline Web apps

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/23

"coordinate comparative tests using competing ARIA proposals"

Gregory - ran into problem with chair of PF group ...

scribe: they think it's an "undue burden"
... there's a push to get it resolved ...
... tomorrow morning there is a meeting with zcorpan (Simon Pieters) to discuss adoption of his ARIA proposal ...

<DanC> (meeting tomorrow? a pointer to mail from whoever is running that meeting would be handy)

<DanC> (er... are we talking about aria-role in substance here or just updating the action status?)

Gregory: OK to [declare] a role without declaring a namespace (they agreed to this compromise)
... have been working with XHTML2 people ...

<zcorpan> DanC, http://www.w3.org/mid/p06110409c3749ffc266b@%5B192.168.1.102%5D

Gregory: now need to broker with developers ...
... I can report back about this [after the meeting tomorrow]

<DanC> (which we agreed?)

ChrisWilson: DanC you noted that you wanted examples

DanC: yep

<DanC> (I got the pointers I needed.)

<DanC> (3 meetings GR just mentioned... pointers please)

<Gregory> friday 30 november 2007 - meeting with simon pieters http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2007OctDec/0257.html

<DanC> I marked ACTION-23 withdrawn

<scribe> ACTION: Gregory to report back after 11-30 meeting on ARIA syntax [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/29-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-30 - Report back after 11-30 meeting on ARIA syntax [on Gregory Rosmaita - due 2007-12-06].

DanC: W3C process requires 7-day notice for meetings

Gregory: this is an attempt to work with the vendors who are supportive of ARIA

[discussion of getting "PF ducks in a row" and "mutual reality check"

<Zakim> DanC, you wanted to note regrets for next week 6 Dec

DanC notes he won't be here next week; ChrisWilson will chair again

<DanC> next meeting: 6 Dec, Chris W to chair

[moving on to discussion of Pending Review AIs]

Issue 4, Video Codecs

<DanC> [homework] summary of the video (and audio) codec discussion

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda

ChrisWilson: this seems complete[d]

DanC will be at the Video Workshop

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Nov/0153.html

above is posting from Dave Singer

<DanC> ACTION: Dan see that Singer's summary makes it to the SJC/Dec W3C video workshop, possibly by confirming Singer's attendance [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/29-html-wg-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-31 - See that Singer's summary makes it to the SJC/Dec W3C video workshop, possibly by confirming Singer's attendance [on Dan Connolly - due 2007-12-06].

ACTION 5, task force for developer community outreach (on Karl)

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/5

<Shawn> fyi: Dave Singer's email was tacked on to the issue for video-codecs: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/7

<Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to comment on Karl's proposal

<DanC> ok by me, action done... now what next... a note and a wiki topic look OK to me

Lachy - I'm trying to incorporate Karl's proposal into my draft ...

scribe: as well as stuff from Roger

<DanC> ok: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/products/5 Product HTML 5 authoring guidelines

<DanC> yeah, not a good name. Mike to fix

<DanC> (did lachy take an action)

<scribe> ACTION: MikeSmith to change the product name of "HTML 5 authoring guidelines" in the tracker to something else, eventually [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/29-html-wg-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - MikeSmith

<scribe> ACTION: Michael(tm) to change the product name of "HTML 5 authoring guidelines" in the tracker to something else, eventually [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/29-html-wg-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-32 - Change the product name of \"HTML 5 authoring guidelines\" in the tracker to something else, eventually [on Michael(tm) Smith - due 2007-12-06].

<Lachy> DanC, what action would you like me to take?

canvas survey questions

<DanC> good question. maybe none, for now

<Lachy> ok

http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/req-gapi-canvas/

<DanC> . ACTION: Lachy prepare web developer guide for publication as a Note

<DanC> yup, regular web pages or blogs are fine by me

Justin: [suggestion about considering blog items]

DanC - I consider the series-of-blog items to be a fairly comfortable way of publishing this kind of information.

<DanC> ACTION: Lachy prepare web developer guide for publication as a Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/29-html-wg-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Lachy

<DanC> ACTION: Lachy prepare web developer guide, maybe as a Note, maybe other [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/29-html-wg-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Lachy

<DanC> (

<DanC> (Lachy, can I add you to the issue tracking task force? i.e. will you be in touch with the chairs regularly?)

Lachy: we want to be able to update the info after we publish it

<anne> That's possible with a Note

<ChrisWilson> (i.e. the content will change as the HTML5 spec changes)

<DanC> (I presume so...)

<anne> You just publish another Note

<ChrisWilson> sure

Lachy: blogs are good for describing current state of things but not for things that need to be updated

<DanC> ACTION: ChrisWilson to investigate an HTML WG blog, a la the way the I18N WG does it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/29-html-wg-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-33 - Investigate an HTML WG blog, a la the way the I18N WG does it [on Chris Wilson - due 2007-12-06].

<DanC> due jan

Other current issues being discussion on public-html in discussing any of the other open issues that have seen recent discussion?

<ChrisWilson> (or haven't seen recent discussion?)

DanC - you can assign that issue to Lachlan now

<Gregory> GJR: would like a continuation on http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/24 - I've noted in the tracker the steps taken so far, and am in the process of finalizing a tweaked stylesheet for review

[discussion of nonconformance of the style attribute in HTML5]

ChrisWilson: how are we tracking follow-up and resolution on these issues?

DanC: there is a new testing task force?

<Lachy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/

<Lachy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2007Nov/0001.html

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/26

<Zakim> DanC, you wanted to note another idea: an edited series of blog articles

above is about testsuite stuff

<Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to talk about testsuite stuff

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-issue-tracking/2007Nov/0006.html

<DanC> ah... test suite product is already there... http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/products/4

<ChrisWilson> Tracker watching public-html; the public-issue-tracking is for discussing how we do issue tracking.

<ChrisWilson> Above was DanC

<Shawn> Lachy: it was primarily for discussion of issues with the Tracker software... and yes... what ChrisWilson said.

<Lachy> ok, so it's not something I need to subscribe to (I'm on too many lists already :-))

<ChrisWilson> I believe that is true, yes.

<ChrisWilson> I don't think I'm subscribed.

<Shawn> We just didn't want to clutter public-html with noise on backoffice issues

<Julian> No, I didn't.

[discussion about mailing lists and interaction with tracker:

<ChrisWilson> Any other issues?

<ChrisWilson> Motion to adjourn?

[no objections to adjourning heard]

<ChrisWilson> ADJOURN